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Title: Did Toxic Chemical In Iraq Cause GIs' Illnesses?
Post by: SAMSON123 on June 27, 2009, 11:21:30 AM

Expect a helluva lot more of this in the VERY NEAR FUTURE... Also, US government finally sort of kinda admitting to what they have done not only to the soldiers, but also to MILLIONS of Iraqi men, women and children in using these chemicals, DU and biological agents in Iraq...

Did toxic chemical in Iraq cause GIs' illnesses?
AP

By SHARON COHEN, AP National Writer Sharon Cohen, Ap National Writer – 56 mins ago

Larry Roberta's every breath is a painful reminder of his time in Iraq. He can't walk a block without gasping for air. His chest hurts, his migraines sometimes persist for days and he needs pills to help him sleep.

James Gentry came home with rashes, ear troubles and a shortness of breath. Later, things got much worse: He developed lung cancer, which spread to his spine, ribs and one of his thighs; he must often use a cane, and no longer rides his beloved Harley.

David Moore's postwar life turned into a harrowing medical mystery: nosebleeds and labored breathing that made it impossible to work, much less speak. His desperate search for answers ended last year when he died of lung disease at age 42.

What these three men — one sick, one dying, one dead — had in common is they were National Guard soldiers on the same stretch of wind-swept desert in Iraq during the early months of the war in 2003.

These soldiers and hundreds of other Guard members from Indiana, Oregon and West Virginia were protecting workers hired by a subsidiary of the giant contractor, KBR Inc., to rebuild an Iraqi water treatment plant. The area, as it turned out, was contaminated with hexavalent chromium, a potent, sometimes deadly chemical linked to cancer and other devastating diseases.

No one disputes that. But that's where agreement ends.

Among the issues now rippling from the courthouse to Capitol Hill are whether the chemical made people sick, when KBR knew it was there and how the company responded. But the debate is more than about this one case; it has raised broader questions about private contractors and health risks in war zones.

Questions, says Sen. Evan Bayh, who plans to hold hearings on the issues, such as these:

"How should we treat exposure to potentially hazardous chemicals as a threat to our soldiers? How seriously should that threat be taken? What is the role of private contractors? What about the potential conflict between their profit motives and taking all steps necessary to protect our soldiers?

"This case," says the Indiana Democrat, "has brought to light the need for systemic reform."

For now, dozens of National Guard veterans have sued KBR and two subsidiaries, accusing them of minimizing and concealing the chemical's dangers, then downplaying nosebleeds and breathing problems as nothing more than sand allergies or a reaction to desert air.

KBR denies any wrongdoing. In a statement, the company said it actually found the chemical at the Qarmat Ali plant, restricted access, cleaned it up and "did not knowingly harm troops."

Ten civilians hired by a KBR subsidiary made similar claims in an arbitration resolved privately in June. (The workers' contract prevented them from filing suit.)

This isn't the first claim that toxins have harmed soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan; there have been allegations involving lead, depleted uranium and sarin gas.

This also isn't the first challenge to KBR, whose billions of dollars of war-related contracts have been the subject of congressional scrutiny and numerous legal claims.

Among them are lawsuits recently filed against KBR and Halliburton Co. — KBR's parent company until 2007 — that assert open-air pits used to burn refuse in Iraq and Afghanistan caused respiratory illnesses, tumors and death. (KBR says it is reviewing the charges. Halliburton maintains it was improperly named and expects to be dismissed from the case.)

Earlier this year, several members of Congress asked Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki to investigate potential burn pit hazards. He replied that his agency is conducting a health study of 30,000 Iraq and Afghanistan veterans and noted the VA "has learned important lessons from previous military conflicts" as it deals with environmental exposure questions.

Some veterans advocates say the military is more attuned to health risks than it was in Vietnam and the Gulf War, but still falls short.

"I'm a realist — things are going to get burned, things are going to be blown up," says Tom Tarantino, an Iraqi veteran and policy associate at the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. "But I think the DOD (Department of Defense) could do a better job at tracking what people are exposed to. If there's a big pit outside your base, you need to know what's going on and do tests ... so if people start getting sick, they won't spend years trying to figure out what's wrong with them."

This isn't a natural fit, he concedes, since the Defense Department "is a war-fighting agency, not an environmental protection agency. But I think there's a lack of information out there."

This case stems from the chaotic start of the war in 2003 when a KBR subsidiary was hired to restart the plant, which had been looted of equipment, wiring, even metal roofing and siding. The Iraqis had used hexavalent chromium to prevent pipe corrosion at the plant, which produced industrial water used in oil production.

It's the same chemical linked to poisonings in California in a case made famous in the movie "Erin Brockovich."

Hexavalent chromium — a toxic component of sodium dichromate — can cause severe liver and kidney damage and studies have linked it to leukemia as well as bone, stomach, brain and other cancers, according to an expert who provided a deposition for the civilian workers.

The chemical "is one of the most potent carcinogens know to man" and it can "enter every cell of the body and potentially produce widespread injury to every major organ in the body," said Max Costa, chairman of New York University's Department of Environmental Medicine.

KBR, however, says studies show only that industrial workers exposed to the chemical for more than two years have an increased risk of cancer — and in this case, soldiers were at the plant just days or months.

The company also notes air quality studies concluded the Indiana Guard soldiers were not exposed to high levels of hexavalent chromium. But Costa says those tests were done when the wind was not blowing.

Both soldiers and former workers say there were days when strong gusts kicked up ripped-open bags of the chemical, creating a yellow-orange haze that coated everything from their hair to their boots.

"I was spitting blood and I was not the only one doing that," recalls Danny Langford, who worked for the KBR subsidiary. "The wind was blowing 30, 40 miles an hour. You could just hardly see where you were going. I pulled my shirt over my nose and there would be blood on it. I also saw the soldiers. They had blood splotches on their masks."

Larry Roberta, a 44-year-old former Oregon National Guard member, remembers a strange metallic taste and dust everywhere. He sat on a bag of the chemical, unaware it was dangerous.

"This orange crud blew up in your face, your eyes and on our food," he says. "I tried to wash my chicken patty off with my canteen. I started to get sick to my stomach right away."

Roberta had coughing spells and agonizing chest pains, he says, that "went all the way through my back. Whenever I breathed, the pain got more sharp. ... Every day I went there, I had something weird going on."

Russell Kimberling, a former Indiana National Guard captain, had severe sinus troubles that forced his evacuation to Germany. After returning, he became alarmed one August day in 2003 while escorting some officials to the plant in the southern Iraqi city of Basra.

"I jumped out of the truck and I turned around and they (KBR staff) had full chemical gear on," he says. "I looked at some of my soldiers and said, 'This can't be very good.'"

"They could have told us to put chemical suits on," Kimberling adds. "There are so many things that could have been done."

Ed Blacke, hired as plant health, safety and environmental coordinator, says he became worried after workers started having breathing problems and a former colleague sent him an internal KBR memo outlining the chemical's dangers. Blacke says when he complained at a meeting, he was labeled a troublemaker and resigned under pressure.

"Normally when you take over a job, you have a briefing — this is what's out there, here's what you need for protective equipment," says Blacke, who testified at a Senate Democratic Policy Committee hearing last year. "There was nothing, nothing at all."

Blacke and Langford were among those whose civil claims were resolved in arbitration.

Kimberling is among nearly 50 Guard veterans — most from Indiana, a smaller number from Oregon and West Virginia — who've sued.

Mike Doyle, the Houston lawyer representing the soldiers and civilians, maintains KBR knew as early as May 2003 the chemical was there, but didn't close the site until that September.

"Once they (KBR) found out about it, they didn't tell anybody and they did everything to conceal it," he contends. "You have (KBR) managers in Houston, in Kuwait City who knew about this. Their staff was getting reports and soldiers and civilians who were in the field were told, 'No big deal. There's nothing to worry about.'"

The lawsuit cites minutes of an August 2003 KBR meeting that mentions "serious health problems at the water treatment plant" and notes "almost 60 percent of the people now exhibit the symptoms."

In a recent wide-ranging interview with The Associated Press, KBR chairman William P. Utt suggested the company be given some latitude with its military contracts.

"We think there ought to be some consideration given in many of these claims to the same protections the government has from these suits that exist," he said.

He also said KBR has been unfairly targeted in war zones. "People think there's an opportunity here in Iraq, let's paint it on KBR, then we'll worry about making the facts precise or correct later," Utt said.

As for the water plant, KBR says once it learned of the chemical, it took precautions to protect workers, notified the Army Corps of Engineers and led the cleanup. It says the Corps had previously deemed the area safe.

KBR also points to Army tests of 137 Indiana Guard soldiers that showed no medical problems that could be linked to exposure, as well as a military board review that found it unlikely anyone would suffer long-term medical consequences.

But Bayh and Doyle say those tests were done too late to be valid and note that soil tests were taken after the contaminated area was covered with asphalt and gravel.

Doyle also disagrees with KBR's contention that workers weren't there long enough — weeks or months — to have elevated cancer risks.

It can take a long time for symptoms of illness to surface — five to 10 years or more for cancer. But some of those who say they were exposed are already ill.

Gentry, a retired lieutenant colonel who commanded the Indiana Guard unit, is in the late stages of lung cancer, which has spread to other parts of his body, according to his friend, Christopher Lee.

Gentry hasn't sued, but in a December 2008 deposition he recalled complaining to his superiors after his soldiers were told by KBR workers the orangish sand was a cancer-causing chemical. He said it was "very disappointing" that KBR managers didn't share that information.

"I'm dying because of it," he said.

While acknowledging he wasn't 100 percent certain that's why he has cancer, Gentry — who served a second tour in Iraq — said his doctor "believes the most probable cause was my exposure to this chemical."

KBR's actions, he said, had put "my men at risk that is unnecessary."

The Indiana, West Virginia and Oregon National Guards have sent hundreds of letters to soldiers notifying them of possible contamination and urging them to seek medical attention. The Oregon Guard also set up a Facebook page and reports about 15 soldiers have reported medical symptoms.

Bayh has introduced a bill calling for a special medical registry that would require the Department of Defense to notify all military members of exposure to potential toxins — and provide comprehensive medical care. (It would be limited to those serving after Sept. 11, 2001.)

A similar notification measure was approved Thursday in the U.S. House, an amendment to the defense authorization bill introduced by U.S. Rep. Kurt Schrader, an Oregon lawmaker.

All these measures come too late for 1st Sgt. David Moore, who served with Gentry.

He thought his persistent cough in Iraq would stop when he returned home. Instead, breathing became difficult; he eventually needed a chair in the shower because he could no longer stand, says his brother, Steve. Moore had nosebleeds, too, and boil-like rashes behind his ears and on his back, arms and legs. He went from doctor to doctor. "None of them could ever figure out what it was," his brother says.

By late 2007, the one-time construction worker — who had been "strong as an ox," and ran 3 1/2 miles every other day — couldn't even venture outside, Steve Moore says. But he didn't give up.

"He was always upbeat," his brother says. "He said, 'They'll figure it out, they'll figure it out.' He thought that until the last time I talked to him. You could see the fear in his eyes. They had him on 100 percent oxygen and he still couldn't breathe. He requested to be put on a ventilator so they could figure it out."

Moore died in February 2008. The cause was lung disease. His death was ruled service-related. His brother believes it was hexavalent chromium.

Larry Roberta, the former Oregon Guardsman who needed stomach surgery after his return, still has physical and emotional problems: Post traumatic stress. Mood swings. Nose polyps. Chest pains. Migraines that can keep him bedridden for days.

He takes two inhalers — he can't walk a block without them — and high blood pressure medicine every day and testosterone shots every two weeks.

"I have 100 percent disability," he says. "I've got a long laundry list of things that happened to me while I was there. If you add it all up, I'd be almost 200 percent disabled."

Roberta recently testified before Oregon lawmakers, urging them to set aside money for Guard members who develop cancer from exposure to the chemical.

His wife, Michelle, says her husband's illness has dramatically changed his outlook.

"He has no ambitions for life anymore," she says. "At his age, that makes me very sad. I worry about him every day."

Kimberling, the former Indiana Guardsman, struggles as well.

The father of two young children — he's a pharmaceutical salesman in Louisville, Ky. — says he hasn't been able to get life insurance because his possible exposure is mentioned on his medical records.

Sometimes, he says, it's hard to sort out his real aches from his fears.

"I feel like I'm a 38-year-old in a 60-year-old's body," he says. "There are a lot of things that seem to be going south a lot quicker than they should. Sinus problems ... pain in my joints that I've never felt before.

"I'm not sure if it's the anxiety of finding out about it or not. I kind of know and feel it's just a matter of time before it catches up with me."

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Title: Re: Did Toxic Chemical In Iraq Cause GIs' Illnesses?
Post by: headhuntersix on June 27, 2009, 05:37:50 PM

I could care less about the Iraqi's...but um..what bio agents?   

Title: Re: Did Toxic Chemical In Iraq Cause GIs' Illnesses?
Post by: SAMSON123 on June 27, 2009, 06:35:14 PM

Quote from: headhuntersix on June 27, 2009, 05:37:50 PM

I could care less about the Iraqi's...but um..what bio agents?   

I could care less aboutt he hired ASSASSINS called soldiers...Thisis JUST CUMMUPANCE for the murdersa dn depravity they showed to an innocent people. Those BIO AGENTS were the UNTESTED EXPERIMENTAL VACCINES given to the soldiers. I just love how the KBR staff had chemical masks on and refused vaccines.

Title: Re: Did Toxic Chemical In Iraq Cause GIs' Illnesses?
Post by: headhuntersix on June 27, 2009, 08:27:42 PM

I must have missed all that....having actually been there. What untested experimental vaccines..which ones SAMSON. Ur talking to a guy who actually does this for a living, not some CT website douchebag. What vacc's . We got smallpox, hyp, a few others, stuff I've gotten before. Not a damm thing I didn't know. I didn't take my maleria crap because it will give u weird dreams and more importantly it fucks up ur stomach without food. More CT bullshit.

Title: Re: Did Toxic Chemical In Iraq Cause GIs' Illnesses?
Post by: CARTEL on June 27, 2009, 08:31:53 PM

These types of stories come out of every war.

Title: Re: Did Toxic Chemical In Iraq Cause GIs' Illnesses?
Post by: SAMSON123 on June 28, 2009, 06:09:37 AM

Quote from: headhuntersix on June 27, 2009, 08:27:42 PM

I must have missed all that....having actually been there. What untested experimental vaccines..which ones SAMSON. Ur talking to a guy who actually does this for a living, not some CT website douchebag. What vacc's . We got smallpox, hyp, a few others, stuff I've gotten before. Not a damm thing I didn't know. I didn't take my maleria crap because it will give u weird dreams and more importantly it fucks up ur stomach without food. More CT bullshit.

You have exposed yourself as an absolute LIAR HH6. You are more than likely someone who wishes he was a soldier (wishes he was a CHERRY MARINE to be exact) and spend your time and days on this board supplying your "expertise" on matters of which you know NOTHING about. Even the US government has admitted to supplying vaccines that were NOT tested and admitting to the now horrendous side effects now being seen in the military from the vaccines and drugs. I have two friends who went into the service in america and are suffering horribly with outbreaks, twitching, neuro/psychological issues since receiving these vaccines and drugs. They spoke in length about how soldiers had to wear flea and tick collars in Iraq, how nearly weekly they were injected with shot after shot of drugs and vaccines of which they knew nothing about, but were always told it was to PROTECT YOUR HEALTH. They spoke of eating food you would hardly give to a dog, not having showers for weeks at a time, burning feces, chemical exposures, yadda yadda yadda. So don't come to this board with your IMAGINARY BULLSHIT about having supposedly been in the service...YOU'RE A LIAR as nothing you say jives with what THE REAL SOLDIERS are saying happened to them in Iraq and/or Afghanistan...

FAKE ALERT   FAKE ALERT. HH6 is some military FAG hoping to get some respect from members on this board for supposedly being in the US service. Pathetic SOB!!!!

Title: Re: Did Toxic Chemical In Iraq Cause GIs' Illnesses?
Post by: headhuntersix on June 28, 2009, 09:06:44 AM

Funny I serve will thousands of dudes with multiple tours, everybody is fine. Both ur "friends" are suffering. Ur a CT nutjob. U barely speak or type English and its always some CT laced bullshit from some wackjob cite.


"how soldiers had to wear flea and tick collars in Iraq, how nearly weekly they were injected with shot after shot of drugs and vaccines of which they knew nothing about"...

Oh ur kidding right, when was this, what units, where. Supply that info douchbag....either u can't or won't because ur full of shit. Go back to ur basemnet nutjob.

They spoke of eating food you would hardly give to a dog, not having showers for weeks at a time, burning feces, chemical exposures, yadda yadda yadda.

Yep we burnt shit in OIF 1....so what. We didn't shower either, we were invading a country, so what. An MRE is fine ur "friends" are just pussies. So let me get this straight SAMSON, we could barely get water and ammo, but the docs found time to get secret DOD mutant medications to us.  ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Did Toxic Chemical In Iraq Cause GIs' Illnesses?
Post by: headhuntersix on June 28, 2009, 12:30:21 PM

Well SAMSON..come on. What units, what drugs,what's their MOS. When were they in Iraq. Oh wait, when confronted by someone who can verify ur bullshit, u run like a bitch. And don't link to some CT website either. They're ur friends....post their info and we can verify.

Title: Re: Did Toxic Chemical In Iraq Cause GIs' Illnesses?
Post by: SAMSON123 on June 28, 2009, 03:31:41 PM

 

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author=headhuntersix link=topic=287677.msg4075569#msg4075569 date=1246205204]
Funny I serve will thousands of dudes with multiple tours, everybody is fine. Both ur "friends" are suffering. Ur a CT nutjob. U barely speak or type English and its always some CT laced bullshit from some wackjob cite.

Like I said your conversation screams of FAKENESS and a total lack of knowledge of what has and is happening in Iraq and Afghanistan as it relates to the soldiers, their health, their environment and their injuries and sicknesses.

"how soldiers had to wear flea and tick collars in Iraq, how nearly weekly they were injected with shot after shot of drugs and vaccines of which they knew nothing about"...

Here is the answer to the flea collar...ther eis lots of info on line about it...why not look it up? or is that just to damn hard for you being that you spend all of your time fabricating being a soldier!!!!

http://www.afpmb.org/coweb/guidance_targets/ppms/flea%20and%20tick%20collar%20fact%20sheet.pdf

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=7656444

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Oh ur kidding right, when was this, what units, where. Supply that info douchbag....either u can't or won't because ur full of shit. Go back to ur basemnet nutjob.

Info provided above.

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They spoke of eating food you would hardly give to a dog, not having showers for weeks at a time, burning feces, chemical exposures, yadda yadda yadda[/b].

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/contamination.html
http://digg.com/world_news/KBR_Sued_for_Serving_Spoiled_Food_to_U_S_Troops
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aWq.XoaVqS4U&refer=columnist_carlson
http://www.veteranstoday.com/article805.html

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Yep we burnt shit in OIF 1....so what. We didn't shower either, we were invading a country, so what. An MRE is fine ur "friends" are just pussies. So let me get this straight SAMSON, we could barely get water and ammo, but the docs found time to get secret DOD mutant medications to us.  ::) ::) ::) ::)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/troops-used-untested-vaccine-1274047.html

http://www.brasscheck.com/videos/iraq/iraqwar14.html

http://www.staytuned.ws/articles/gulfwar.html

This is just a little of the information found online in about ten minutes about all of the ILLS in Iraq and Afghanistan with the american soldiers. I hope at this point you admit your pathetic lying ass is just a BULLSHIT ARTIST on this board pretending to have served in the US military. There is no way in HELL you could be this roundly unaware of so much evidence that supports the ill treatment of the men and women in the military in america. If it were not for the media EMBARRASSING the military by exposing the criminal treatment of the amputees in Walter Reads hospital, then EVEN MORE of these atrocities would be occuring

YOU'RE AN ABSOLUTE ASS HH6!!!

Title: Re: Did Toxic Chemical In Iraq Cause GIs' Illnesses?
Post by: headhuntersix on June 28, 2009, 05:13:14 PM

Oh no SAMSON u said u had first hand knowledge based on ur two "friends". So who are they, what unit....but lets go through ur post shall we.

We have one from 1997...from the first Gulf War on BRITISH SOLDIERS...ok so that doesn't count.
We have from HALIBUTON WATCH...ok SAMSON nice try. Oh and there are a BILLION FUCKING SIGNS ALL OVER OUR DFACS SAYING DON"T DRINK THE WATER.....do u realize that KBR cans people left and right for rules violations.
I figured the ABC news story would have something...its the pink boxer story...um yeah so what.
Gee the digg article had plenty of facts....
As for ur flee and tick article...the Army doesn't make u wear that shit u idiot. Ur expressly told not to. I used the full on DEET when I was in the Marines because the shit works. I've also eaten matches because it might keep ticks away, neither is Marine Corp policy.

Which brings us to the Bloomberg article....so what. It has zero to do with ur supposed point. KBR/Haliburton over charges the gov for its services. Not my issue. Nobody can do what KBR does...nobody. The system isn't perfect but guess what...I get eggs to order in the morning, full salad bar, steak and lobster on weekends...after a year its sucks, but so what. See SAMSON I'm in the military, I didn't join for a country club outing. I'm shocked at the level of the food.

And then the vets today article which is a reprint of any earlier article.....so we have nothing that proves ur point...nothing except ur bizarre CT laced bullshit. I forgot the last two links...one on GWS. I wasn't there, no idea and the other from some CT website. I plan on posting pics of deployment 3...so u'll be proved wrong yet again. SAMSON douchbags like u really not try debating anything military....u have no idea.


Now about ur two "friends"....ranks/units/deployment/MOS.....that should be enough to see what they did and if they could have been exposed to DU. As a Tanker, who fired DU, I'm fine..besides the flippers. Ur a an asshole, but keep trying.

Title: Re: Did Toxic Chemical In Iraq Cause GIs' Illnesses?
Post by: SAMSON123 on June 28, 2009, 06:22:54 PM

Quote from: headhuntersix on June 28, 2009, 05:13:14 PM

Oh no SAMSON u said u had first hand knowledge based on ur two "friends". So who are they, what unit....but lets go through ur post shall we.

We have one from 1997...from the first Gulf War on BRITISH SOLDIERS...ok so that doesn't count.
We have from HALIBUTON WATCH...ok SAMSON nice try. Oh and there are a BILLION FUCKING SIGNS ALL OVER OUR DFACS SAYING DON"T DRINK THE WATER.....do u realize that KBR cans people left and right for rules violations.
I figured the ABC news story would have something...its the pink boxer story...um yeah so what.
Gee the digg article had plenty of facts....
As for ur flee and tick article...the Army doesn't make u wear that shit u idiot. Ur expressly told not to. I used the full on DEET when I was in the Marines because the shit works. I've also eaten matches because it might keep ticks away, neither is Marine Corp policy.

Which brings us to the Bloomberg article....so what. It has zero to do with ur supposed point. KBR/Haliburton over charges the gov for its services. Not my issue. Nobody can do what KBR does...nobody. The system isn't perfect but guess what...I get eggs to order in the morning, full salad bar, steak and lobster on weekends...after a year its sucks, but so what. See SAMSON I'm in the military, I didn't join for a country club outing. I'm shocked at the level of the food.

And then the vets today article which is a reprint of any earlier article.....so we have nothing that proves ur point...nothing except ur bizarre CT laced bullshit. I forgot the last two links...one on GWS. I wasn't there, no idea and the other from some CT website. I plan on posting pics of deployment 3...so u'll be proved wrong yet again. SAMSON douchbags like u really not try debating anything military....u have no idea.


Now about ur two "friends"....ranks/units/deployment/MOS.....that should be enough to see what they did and if they could have been exposed to DU. As a Tanker, who fired DU, I'm fine..besides the flippers. Ur a an asshole, but keep trying.

Like I said HH6 you have been BUSTED AND EXPOSED a FAKER AND LIAR. I would not give you a friends private information like that because I have NO RIGHT to give you their personal info... who are you to even ask for such information? We already know you are NOT a soldier and for all I know you are some message board pervert looking to steal someones indentity to solidify your own FAKE military background. I am amazed at how much FREE TIME people have in the military to jerk off on a message board all day everyday...I thought you were all fighting a war?? Am I wrong?

Insofar as your reaction to the info I provided, you obviously can not read and clearly refuse to research anything on your own, as the articles spoke specifically of soldiers wearing FLEA COLLARS. The Bloomberg article I gave should have enlightened you to the mindset KBR and Halliburton have toward the soldiers so you would understand that they DID give them spoiled food, tainted water, vaccines, drugs etc that have RUINED their health. When the government and its subsidiaries don't value a soldier, or their family do you think they give a shit if they receive tainted water, spoiled food, experimental vaccines etc???

You do nothing on this board HH6 but complain/deny everything that is presented and speak with nothing but contempt to the soldiers of america dying daily when you claim that the chemicals, vaccines, drugs and environment they are in IS SAFE AND FREE FROM THE DANGERS RESEARCHERS, INVESTIGATORS AND DOCUMENTARIES HAVE EXPOSED. YOU"RE A BULLSHIT ARTIST AND IDIOT...and like all bullshitters eventually you are exposed/caught like now. The fact you know nothing about what is really happening in Iraq or Afghanistan and your vocalization of contempt to all information that mothers and fathers of fallen soldiers, of dying soldiers of crippled soldiers and all have spoken/exposed on every news network, independent investigation and even taken matters to congress, the White house and the president speaks volumes about your FAKENESS and MINDSET. Your mission is to clearly try and debunk everything the soldiers and families say is happening to them and to support the US military view of "everything is fine"....WHEN IT CERTAINLY IS NOT!!!

Add to all of this the multitude of soldiers who have openly talked about the DU, chemical, vaccines, drugs etc etc exposure and the often VIOLENT reactions they have had to them, the photos and interviews with iraqi families who have shown the chemical burns, birth defects, deaths, leukemias, cancers etc that have exploded across Iraq since this "INVASION" and it all makes your gibberish and babbling akin to a MADMAN or LUNATIC. Some representative you are to the soldiers...then again you're just a military faker.

Personally I think you are either a POOR government troll on this board, a Alex Jones type idiot looking for self glorification, or just some JERK playing a game for way to long...but clearly you are NOT up to snuff.

Spend less time on this board offering morbid unsubstantiated opinions and more time watching the documentaries made by soldiers and investigators and paying attention to the reports on MSM and independent media showing what is really happening in Iraq., Afghanistan and the soldiers...

Title: Re: Did Toxic Chemical In Iraq Cause GIs' Illnesses?
Post by: headhuntersix on June 28, 2009, 06:27:29 PM

Ur kidding right....just post their units and rotation dates. Thats all i need. Maybe MOS. U know what an MOS means right? Nice meltdown. I can see ur little fingers smoking as u type away with ur CT bullshit. I went point for point when u made ur failed attempt to post facts. SAMSON as usual u failed.

Post the numbers that have exploded across Iraq....CT websites aren't proof so try hard. OH and I don't need documentaries SAMSON...I'll be there agin in Nov, but u keep trying ok.

Title: Re: Did Toxic Chemical In Iraq Cause GIs' Illnesses?
Post by: SAMSON123 on June 28, 2009, 09:37:13 PM

Quote from: headhuntersix on June 28, 2009, 06:27:29 PM

Ur kidding right....just post their units and rotation dates. Thats all i need. Maybe MOS. U know what an MOS means right? Nice meltdown. I can see ur little fingers smoking as u type away with ur CT bullshit. I went point for point when u made ur failed attempt to post facts. SAMSON as usual u failed.

Post the numbers that have exploded across Iraq....CT websites aren't proof so try hard. OH and I don't need documentaries SAMSON...I'll be there agin in Nov, but u keep trying ok.

You mean you will really sign up for the military this time?? as opposed to your wet fantasy dreams of being in uniform and battling for "democracy"?? hahahahah  your a bigger joke than the crap you post. GOOD NIGHT