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The Lakers are going to sign Artest. :o I really like Ariza, but Artest is an upgrade over Ariza. Ariza is a dummy. Got greedy. Should have taken the mid-level money.
This is the best move of free agency/trade season so far IMO. Better than Carter to Orlando, Snack to Cleveland, Jefferson to SA, Gordon, etc.
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i agree
would of loved to see him in cleveland
but who would chose clevo over LA ??? ;D
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whats happening with Lamar, hope he stays.
hope artest doesn't mess with the chemistry.
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whats happening with Lamar, hope he stays.
hope artest doesn't mess with the chemistry.
yes what will happen to lamar,maybe cleveland??
yea right haha ;D
found this on another forum
''NBA_Rumors_NewsBreaking News Im not aloud to name names but certain free agents have/are declining to go to Cavs cuz lack of confidence lebron will remain''
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I think Odom stays in LA. I wish the season was starting next week. :)
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Too bad the C's have to let Leon go. Wallace would be great off the bech, provided he keeps in line.
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Rasheed Wallace would be a great complimentary puzzle piece for any legitimate championship contender out of the East. Great versatile player despite getting up there in age.
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Would be a great addition to either the Celtics or Spurs.
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Rasheed Wallace would be a great complimentary puzzle piece for any legitimate championship contender out of the East. Great versatile player despite getting up there in age.
i always thought he played lazy
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i always thought he played lazy
He does look lazy sometimes, but he's one of the most talented big men in the league, and he has a ring. If he goes to Boston or SA he's the like the fourth option, so no pressure.
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Looks like Hedo to Portland is almost a done deal! I would have liked to seen him stay down here but i guess he will help out Brandon Roy and dumm ass Greg Oden :D
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Looks like Hedo to Portland is almost a done deal! I would have liked to seen him stay down here but i guess he will help out Brandon Roy and dumm ass Greg Oden :D
Toronto now.
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Toronto now.
I would rather see his ass in Toronto ;D Screw Greg Oden
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Wallace is a no brainer in Boston. He's good friends with the big ticket and he would respect Rivers....
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i always thought he played lazy
I am not sorry that he is leaving my Pistons but i did enjoy his escapades!
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Wallace is a no brainer in Boston. He's good friends with the big ticket and he would respect Rivers....
I think he'd be a better fit in SA but Boston is his likely destination.
With Jefferson, Duncan, Ginobli, and Parker already in the mix, Wallace would make them instant favorites in the West, slightly behind the Lakers.
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Sheed to Boston. Very good pickup. They're also interested in Grant Hill. They're going to put together a very good team for another title run. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4307834
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A very good team but a very OLD team. Wallace will be 35 and Grant Hill is almost 37. Allen is 34, Pierce will be 32 and Garnett 34 next season.
They also will be hurt by lack of depth on their bench. Losing Powe will hurt and there's a very good chance they lose Big Baby to a qualifying offer from another team that Boston might not choose to match. They also lose Marbury and Eddie House can only do so much. The starters will be playing major minutes next season.
The 2009-2010 season looks to be the Celtics last as a viable title contender before the team has to look towards the future and get younger.
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A very good team but a very OLD team. Wallace will be 35 and Grant Hill is almost 37. Allen is 34, Pierce will be 32 and Garnett 34 next season.
They also will be hurt by lack of depth on their bench. Losing Powe will hurt and there's a very good chance they lose Big Baby to a qualifying offer from another team that Boston might not choose to match. They also lose Marbury and Eddie House can only do so much. The starters will be playing major minutes next season.
The 2009-2010 season looks to be the Celtics last as a viable title contender before the team has to look towards the future and get younger.
Yeah, definitely an older team, but I think that trio (Pierce, Garnett, Allen) probably only has one more good year together anyway.
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I like it. Ainge has it covered. He's proven that he's a great talent evaluator and that he makes good trades. he's got a plan, man.
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I like it. Ainge has it covered. He's proven that he's a great talent evaluator and that he makes good trades. he's got a plan, man.
How's Ainge going to cover losing Powe and Big Baby? I really don't see them retaining Big Baby. He showed a lot of skill and opened a lot of eyes during the playoffs. Another team should make him offer that the Celtics will be hard pressed to match.
Lot of names with veteran star quality on their roster but a likely thinner bench for the 2009-2010 season.
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How's Ainge going to cover losing Powe and Big Baby? I really don't see them retaining Big Baby. He showed a lot of skill and opened a lot of eyes during the playoffs. Another team should make him offer that the Celtics will be hard pressed to match.
Lot of names with veteran star quality on their roster but a likely thinner bench for the 2009-2010 season.
The same way he put them there. Ainge was the one who drafted baby and powe. If he was smart enough to recognize their talent, I'm sure he has a plan to cover for their loss. Thats said, baby is not gone yet.
I like the moves Ainge has made and imo the Celtics will win as many games as they did the year the won it all. They will contend. You called the celtics "old" the first year they one it all, two years ago.
Garnett and Pierce have plenty left in the tank. Sheed was a awesome pickup for the Celtics. I love it!
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Damn, has it been two years since I said that?
Fuck....time flies when you get older. >:(
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Barring injuries, gotta make Boston and LA the favorites to meet in the Finals. Looking forward to it. :)
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Barring injuries, gotta make Boston and LA the favorites to meet in the Finals. Looking forward to it. :)
I'm thinking the Spurs get back to the finals next year. No disrespect to the Lakers but I don't if they would have beaten the Spurs in the playoffs with the Spurs at full strength. No Ginobli.
next season the Spurs will have Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, and now Jefferson in the starting five. Finley's off the bench along with Mcdyess. That's a great veteran team that knows how to win. Ugly to watch but winners, nonetheless.
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Barring injuries, gotta make Boston and LA the favorites to meet in the Finals. Looking forward to it. :)
Agreed, I hope they meet injury free.
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Looks like Odom is going to the Miami Heat.
The Lakers absolutely will not repeat without Odom.
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Looks like Odom is going to the Miami Heat.
The Lakers absolutely will not repeat without Odom.
I know Miami is interested, but haven't heard that Odom committed to Miami. I still think he comes back to LA. He'd be a fool not to return.
But LA is still the favorite even without Odom IMO. They won this year without a significant contribution from Bynum. If Bynum is 100 percent, LA will be extremely tough to beat, especially with the addition of Artest.
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Without Odom, I think the Lakers fall behind San Antonio for the odds on favorite to win the title. A healthy Ginobli plus the additions of Jefferson and McDyess will have the Spurs cruising to 60+ wins this year.
Odom does everything for the Lakers. He's so versatile and talented in so many areas. Without him, the Lakers would not have won the championship. Bynum's a little bitch who shrinks away when he's in the spotlight. I like Artest but Odom is the straw that stirs the drink.
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Without Odom, I think the Lakers fall behind San Antonio for the odds on favorite to win the title. A healthy Ginobli plus the additions of Jefferson and McDyess will have the Spurs cruising to 60+ wins this year.
Odom does everything for the Lakers. He's so versatile and talented in so many areas. Without him, the Lakers would not have won the championship. Bynum's a little bitch who shrinks away when he's in the spotlight. I like Artest but Odom is the straw that stirs the drink.
That really overstates Odom's contribution to the team. He was a huge part of the championship run, but the most important player on that team is/was Kobe. Gasol is actually the one who pushed them over the top. Bynum is a stud when healthy. Did you see him play the last two seasons right before he got injured? He was playing as well or better than any center in the NBA both times. If that version of Bynum comes back, they will be extremely tough to beat, with or without Odom.
Odom is also inconsistent. When he's on his game he is a great X factor. Then he can disappear for games at a time.
SA will be good, but so will Denver and Portland . . . and LA.
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That really overstates Odom's contribution to the team. He was a huge part of the championship run, but the most important player on that team is/was Kobe. Gasol is actually the one who pushed them over the top. Bynum is a stud when healthy. Did you see him play the last two seasons right before he got injured? He was playing as well or better than any center in the NBA both times. If that version of Bynum comes back, they will be extremely tough to beat, with or without Odom.
Odom is also inconsistent. When he's on his game he is a great X factor. Then he can disappear for games at a time.
SA will be good, but so will Denver and Portland . . . and LA.
I just think SA, if healthy, will win it next year. Not having Ginobli for the playoffs last season was a big reason the Lakers cruised to the Finals.(minus the 7 game debacle against the Rockets.)
Four titles in eight years. 'Nuff said.
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I just think SA, if healthy, will win it next year. Not having Ginobli for the playoffs last season was a big reason the Lakers cruised to the Finals.(minus the 7 game debacle against the Rockets.)
Four titles in eight years. 'Nuff said.
SA is a great franchise and Pop is an outstanding coach. I agree they'll contend next season.
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Oddsmakers see Lakers as NBA favorites, with or without Lamar Odom
5:35 PM PDT, July 27, 2009
No reason to panic, Lakers fans.
Whether free agent Lamar Odom stays in Los Angeles or leaves for the Miami Heat, Las Vegas bookmakers said Monday they don't anticipate anything that would drop the Lakers from their perch as preseason favorites to win the NBA championship -- again.
"Getting [forward Ron] Artest is better than losing Lamar," said Jay Rood, director of the MGM/Mirage Race and Sports Book. The Lakers signed free agent Artest this month. "The core of that team still is what it is, and as long as you keep Kobe [Bryant] and [Coach] Phil [Jackson], nothing changes."
At MGM/Mirage, the Lakers are an 8-5 favorite to win the NBA title, followed by the Boston Celtics, and recent addition Rasheed Wallace, at 3-1, and the Cleveland Cavaliers, with Shaquille O'Neal joining LeBron James, at nearly 4-1. The Orlando Magic are 13-2 and the San Antonio Spurs are 7-1.
"We didn't change anything when they got Artest, and if they lose Odom it'll just be a wash," said Jay Kornegay, executive director of the Las Vegas Hilton's Race and Sports book, which has the Lakers as the 2-1 favorite over the 3-1 Cavaliers and 5-1 Celtics. "Odom's a component, but he's not a star. As that team has already shown, if they lose someone, they'll find someone else."
Those who assess these situations, with millions of dollars on the line, believe the possible loss of Odom will not diminish support for what is essentially Las Vegas' hometown team.
So why change the Lakers' odds to 3-1 or 4-1 when the betting action supporting the team is already intense?
"The public has shown they'll support the Lakers and the team proved last season they can get by without a big man," Rood said, referring to the injury absence of center Andrew Bynum. "And the return of Bynum is another big thing for that team, that makes them so much more dangerous."
Odom's effect at the sports book will be only slight, bookmakers say, if he goes to Miami. Rood said he'd likely drop the Heat from 25-1 to around 22-1.
"He might make Miami significantly better but they still have the Celtics, Cavs and Magic in front of them," Rood said.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-odom-lakers-28-2009jul28,0,2985902.story
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GREAT NEWS!!
Source: Odom, Lakers agree on deal
Free agent forward Lamar Odom will return to the Los Angeles Lakers, an NBA source said Thursday.
Odom will sign a four-year contract, with the fourth year at the team option, the source said. One source with knowledge of the talks told ESPN.com the four-year deal is worth $33 million if the Lakers exercise the final year of the contract.
Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak declined comment and Odom's agent, Jeff Schwartz, did not immediately return a voice mail.
Odom's signing was the most significant free agent move left to play out this summer, as it restores a pivotal piece to the Lakers' championship team. The versatile, 6-foot-9 Odom averaged 11.3 points and 8.2 rebounds during the regular season and 12.3 points and 9.1 rebounds during the playoffs, despite injuring his back in a fall during the Western Conference semifinals against Houston.
Odom's destination for the 2009-10 season had remained in doubt after the Lakers pulled an initial offer of a reported $27 million guaranteed over three years off the table. As the other franchises with significant salary cap space spent their money elsewhere, the Miami Heat emerged as a serious contender for Odom's services. On Tuesday, the Portland Trail Blazers also got into the mix, offering a five-year, $40 million deal, according to a source close to Odom.
With Dwyane Wade publicly lobbying for Odom to rejoin him in South Beach, the Heat offered a deal worth up to $34 million over five years. The fact that Odom didn't jump at it despite the cooled tone of negotiations with the Lakers indicated his desire to return to Los Angeles, and the longer the saga dragged out the greater the chances seemed that he would be back.
With Odom back in the fold the Lakers would have their top five scorers and top four rebounders from the 2009 championship on the roster to begin the title defense. The only significant loss is forward Trevor Ariza, who left to sign a contract with the Houston Rockets after the Lakers signed former Rocket Ron Artest.
J.A. Adande and Marc Stein are NBA reporters for ESPN.com. ESPN's Shelley Smith contributed to this report.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4367213 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4367213)
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Sweeeeeet! :)
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confirmed
4yrs/$33 million
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4370640 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4370640)