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Report: Palin resigning as Alaska gov
Former vice presidential hopeful won't finish out first term
BREAKING NEWS
WASILLA, Alaska - Sarah Palin plans to resign as governor of Alaska in a few weeks, KTUU-TV reported Friday.
Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate in 2008, made the announcement at her home Friday morning, the station said.
Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell will take over at the end of the month, KTUU reported.
With her at the announcement were Parnell and most of her cabinet.
There was no immediate word as to why she will step down before the end of her first term, though some have speculated in the past that she may be interested in running for president in 2012.
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Report: Palin resigning as Alaska gov
Former vice presidential hopeful won't finish out first term
BREAKING NEWS
WASILLA, Alaska - Sarah Palin plans to resign as governor of Alaska in a few weeks, KTUU-TV reported Friday.
Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate in 2008, made the announcement at her home Friday morning, the station said.
Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell will take over at the end of the month, KTUU reported.
With her at the announcement were Parnell and most of her cabinet.
There was no immediate word as to why she will step down before the end of her first term, though some have speculated in the past that she may be interested in running for president in 2012.
The GOP needs her to raise money for next November's elections.
Its no secret that they have no stars right now and she is a main draw on the fund raising circuit.
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Sad. Alaskans seemed to really like her. Hopefully she will rebound with a high-profile FOX news show, and have a good career in TV.
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When does the next senate seat open up in Alaska?
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didnt see this one coming
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interesting day/time to quit.
news dump on the friday afternoon before a holiday?
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interesting day/time to quit.
news dump on the friday afternoon before a holiday?
Yeah, it'll make the saturday morning paper(least read day) on the 4th of July(one of the most celebrated holidays)
Perfect timing.
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2010.
But she won't take it.
The GOP needs her working her ass of for the party.
She only went to 4 events outside of Alaska after the election now she can spend much more time in the lower 48.
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She is finished. It does not play well at all when one places ambition over commitment. Resigning is certainly her Waterloo. The ignorant vote is certainly not that strong to propel her to anything further.
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She will never recover from the constant chant of, "you didn`t even finish one term at the statewide level".
There may be more to this as something perhaps is wrong.
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CNN is destroying her over this. Not one good comment, they're crucifying her.
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Report: Palin resigning as Alaska gov
Former vice presidential hopeful won't finish out first term
BREAKING NEWS
WASILLA, Alaska - Sarah Palin plans to resign as governor of Alaska in a few weeks, KTUU-TV reported Friday.
Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate in 2008, made the announcement at her home Friday morning, the station said.
Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell will take over at the end of the month, KTUU reported.
With her at the announcement were Parnell and most of her cabinet.
There was no immediate word as to why she will step down before the end of her first term, though some have speculated in the past that she may be interested in running for president in 2012.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
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2010.
But she won't take it.
The GOP needs her working her ass of for the party.
She only went to 4 events outside of Alaska after the election now she can spend much more time in the lower 48.
Weird. I can see her running for the senate, but it's a little early to step down for a senate run.
You mean the lower 49? I hear that "lower 48" all the time. :)
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CNN is destroying her over this. Not one good comment, they're crucifying her.
Nice, I'll check it out.
Would be interested in seeing Jack Caffertys and George Will's take.
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The GOP is now dead.
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Weird. I can see her running for the senate, but it's a little early to step down for a senate run.
You mean the lower 49? I hear that "lower 48" all the time. :)
I guess Hawaii is much lower. :-[
The GOP is in terrible shape financially, this will help a lot. Even if she doesn't run in 2012.
It makes sense on why all of those McCain staffers came out against her earlier in the week.
They must have known this was going to happen.
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I highly doubt it,,,thats like saying obama didnt have the experience to be persident and yet he is doing just fine.
She will never recover from the constant chant of, "you didn`t even finish one term at the statewide level".
There may be more to this as something perhaps is wrong.
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the conspiracy theorist in me wonders if some big scandal comes out next week.
like, she resigned to get in front of it?
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I highly doubt it,,,thats like saying obama didnt have the experience to be persident and yet he is doing just fine.
Wrong. Obama did not resign from his duties that the people elected him to do.
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I guess Hawaii is much lower. :-[
The GOP is in terrible shape financially, this will help a lot. Even if she doesn't run in 2012.
It makes sense on why all of those McCain staffers came out against her earlier in the week.
They must have known this was going to happen.
........and the the Svengali puppet show continues.
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I guess Hawaii is much lower. :-[
The GOP is in terrible shape financially, this will help a lot. Even if she doesn't run in 2012.
It makes sense on why all of those McCain staffers came out against her earlier in the week.
They must have known this was going to happen.
No worries. People always say that.
I guess if she's going to hit the trail and try and help candidates across the country then resigning would make sense, because she's trying to help a much broader base of people. Still seems like weird timing though.
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Wrong. Obama did not resign from his duties that the people elected him to do.
Oh please. The man was running for president for like two years. He was hardly doing the job he was elected to do.
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Republicans should disown her. Why would they even want her around?
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Republicans should disown her. Why would they even want her around?
Your crazy.
Why should they disown her.
She didn't run against the party like some (cough Powell cough). Yet all you leftist thought he should stay.
She is still the biggest draw in the party. she can out fund raise almost anyone. Now she can spend her time working for the GOP.
Its good for both the party and her.
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Your crazy.
Why should they disown her.
She didn't run against the party like some (cough Powell cough). Yet all you leftist thought he should stay.
She is still the biggest draw in the party. she can out fund raise almost anyone. Now she can spend her time working for the GOP.
Its good for both the party and her.
If you think she is the biggest draw and wish to put your chips in her corner as the "leader of the GOP" than your party is finished.
Can you not see this? Why not find someone better?
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Palin's great for the base. she may travel the country to help congressional candidates. The base will come out in the thousands to see her. She will make the GOP some money.
But I don't understand this move, if she wants to be president. I mean, this is a highly erratic move. She could have finished her term in a year and retired just in time to annoince in jan 2011 that she wants to be president. Resigning is something candidates don't do. it's erratic.
I guess time will tell if it's a smart move or not. it's good for the GOP. They don't want her running for prez, but they love her as a local campaigner.
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:o
Sources told NBC’s Andrea Mitchell that Palin is out of politics for good.
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Andrea Mitchell: Palin telling supporters she is OUT of national politics
Reporting on MSNBC now. Mitchell's sources telling her that Palin has told her supporters that she has no desire to be in politics. Says she is sick of all of it. Not sure how to read that in light of her resignation speech.
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Palin's great for the base. she may travel the country to help congressional candidates. The base will come out in the thousands to see her. She will make the GOP some money.
But I don't understand this move, if she wants to be president. I mean, this is a highly erratic move. She could have finished her term in a year and retired just in time to annoince in jan 2011 that she wants to be president. Resigning is something candidates don't do. it's erratic.
I guess time will tell if it's a smart move or not. it's good for the GOP. They don't want her running for prez, but they love her as a local campaigner.
Given the Vanity Fair article, I don`t think the higher ups in the GOP have any respect for her or want anything to do with her whatsoever. That of course trickles to the Congressional level as well.
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If you think she is the biggest draw and wish to put your chips in her corner as the "leader of the GOP" than your party is finished.
Can you not see this? Why not find someone better?
She doesn't need to lead.
She needs to raise MONEY for the GOP.
The GOP can't win the close senate and congressional races in 2010 without it and she can help out a great deal towards that end.
Its called the long game. Its how things used to be done.
If she can continue to draw big crowds and raise MONEY for the next 3 years then she will have a chance. I thought she would run in 2012, but I am now thinking 2016.
Yah I agree with 240 on this.
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I guess being a governor is sort of like being a community organizer...
except community organizers don't quit halfway through their term?
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David Letterman started the Meltdown and Vanity Fair detonated the final charge. Palin melted down harder and faster than anyone in recent history.
All for nothing. Imagine how fragile she would have been had she made it to the Whitehouse. She would have bit the dust very quickly.
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Report from "friend" is that she is leaving public life totally.
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She doesn't need to lead.
She needs to raise MONEY for the GOP.
The GOP can't win the close senate and congressional races in 2010 without it and she can help out a great deal towards that end.
Its called the long game. Its how things used to be done.
If she can continue to draw big crowds and raise MONEY for the next 3 years then she will have a chance. I thought she would run in 2012, but I am now thinking 2016.
Yah I agree with 240 on this.
uh, she is done with all of it. She will not be raising anything.
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She doesn't need to lead.
She needs to raise MONEY for the GOP.
The GOP can't win the close senate and congressional races in 2010 without it and she can help out a great deal towards that end.
Its called the long game. Its how things used to be done.
If she can continue to draw big crowds and raise MONEY for the next 3 years then she will have a chance. I thought she would run in 2012, but I am now thinking 2016.
Yah I agree with 240 on this.
she's very marketable. She could raise millions.
I don't understand the talk about leaving politics and public light entirely - especially after the way she's worked so hard to remain prominent - jogging magazine last week?
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Report from "friend" is that she is leaving public life totally.
Your sleuth reporting is from KOS.
not exactly the greatest of sources.
She will be fund raising.
If she was out of politics she would have said it at the press conference.
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she's very marketable. She could raise millions.
I don't understand the talk about leaving politics and public light entirely - especially after the way she's worked so hard to remain prominent - jogging magazine last week?
She is not marketable at all. The only ones that like her are the extremist types and the ignorant. The GOP leadership knows this and this could possibly be their hands at work behind the scenes. The Vanity Fair article with the GOP leadership is pretty telling and shows that they, more than anyone, want her under the rug for good as she has come to hurt the GOP (their words) more than help.
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Your sleuth reporting is from KOS.
not exactly the greatest of sources.
She will be fund raising.
If she was out of politics she would have said it at the press conference.
I am on Hotair.com. A republican website.
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I am on Hotair.com. A republican website.
Regardless.
She will be fund raising.
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This doesn't sound like she's dropping out of public life.
Palin Quits as Alaska Governor
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said Friday that she is stepping down at the end of the month, setting up a potential run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.
FOXNews.com
Friday, July 03, 2009
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin shocked the political word Friday by announcing that she will step down at the end of the month and transfer power to Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell.
Palin made the surprise announcement from her home in Wasilla, flanked by her husband, Todd, and family and state commissioners.
"I never believed that I nor anyone else needs a title to do this, to make a difference," she said. "I'm determined to take the right path for Alaska, even though it is unconventional and it's not so comfortable."
Parnell will be inaugurated at the governor's picnic in Fairbanks at the end of the month, Palin said.
The announcement came on the same week that one of her top public health officials says she was forced out of office because Palin felt she wasn't in step on social issues.
Palin's decision now allows her to avoid the difficult task of running for president while serving as governor.
Todd Palin told FOX News that his wife will concentrate on "doing the things for Alaska and the country" that she is passionate about and can not do as governor with the limitation and constant opposition she deals with within the state.
Palin, who defeated incumbent Gov. Murkowski in a primary in 2006,.gained national prominence when GOP presidential candidate John McCain picked her as his running mate last year. But her approval ratings in the state have skidded in recent months.
Palin has been dogged in recent months by ethics inquiries. Her office last month announced the 15th dismissal of an ethics complaint against her or one of her staff.
On Wednesday, Beverly Wooley, who has worked more than 20 years in public health in Alaska, most of it with the municipality of Anchorage, ended her stint as state public health director.
She's the second top health official to leave within days. The state's chief medical officer, Jay Butler, left in late June after declining to take on Wooley's job along with his own. He now is in Atlanta, overseeing a U.S. Centers for Disease Control task force on a vaccine to protect against the H1N1 flu virus.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/03/palin-opts-run-second-term-alaska-governor/
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She is not marketable at all. The only ones that like her are the extremist types and the ignorant.
To that 20% of americans who base their decision making on religion, she's awesome.
To the other 80% of americans, she's an erratic governor who isn't qualified to be prez.
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Regardless.
She will be fund raising.
She has reported to her "friends" that she will not be doing anything of the sort. So far that is all we know. So why are you putting forth information that does not exist.
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conflicted reports. her brother is on fox saying she's done with public light. her speech seemed to say otherwise, that she can make more change NOT as governor.
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She has reported to her "friends" that she will not be doing anything of the sort. So far that is all we know. So why are you putting forth information that does not exist.
The source from hot air in MSNBC.
They are the only ones saying this.
She is also going to release her itinerary soon.
http://twitter.com/AKGOVSarahPalin
We'll soon attach info on decision to not seek re-election... this is in Alaska's best interest, my family's happy... it is good, stay tuned
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The source from hot air in MSNBC.
They are the only ones saying this.
She is also going to release her itinerary soon.
http://twitter.com/AKGOVSarahPalin
We'll soon attach info on decision to not seek re-election... this is in Alaska's best interest, my family's happy... it is good, stay tuned
I don`t understand the point you are failing to make. ???
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I don`t understand the point you are failing to make. ???
YOU seem to think that she is done for good. I don't.
She will be announcing her up coming plans soon.
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YOU seem to think that she is done for good. I don't.
She will be announcing her up coming plans soon.
According to her, her friends and family and advisors she is done for good. I am going to go with that as that is all we have at the moment.
You are going on no information.
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According to her, her friends and family and advisors she is done for good. I am going to go with that as that is all we have at the moment.
You are going on no information.
Really she has come out and said she is done for good.
No she hasn't.
I am going on what she said at her press conference on her twitter page and on other news reports.
You are going on a couple blog entries.
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Given the Vanity Fair article, I don`t think the higher ups in the GOP have any respect for her or want anything to do with her whatsoever. That of course trickles to the Congressional level as well.
Did u read the Vanity Fair article...there was nothing in it.
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Really she has come out and said she is done for good.
No she hasn't.
I am going on what she said at her press conference on her twitter page and on other news reports.
You are going on a couple blog entries.
I interpreted her press conference as she is done. I admit her third grade speech about basketball was hard to follow, but I did take away that she is done in politics from it.
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Did u read the Vanity Fair article...there was nothing in it.
I am a loyal subscriber along with The Nation.
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According to her, her friends and family and advisors she is done for good. I am going to go with that as that is all we have at the moment.
You are going on no information.
Yes MSNBC ha said..."close friends have said"..."they said" "sources close".....funny TA u did the drive by mention of Vanity Fair that u must have heard on MSNBC and then parroted that back on here. That article did the same thing, no facts just drivel, and nothing new on top of it. I'm not a Palin fan, so I don't care, but she doesn't appear done to me, otherwise she'd have said it.
Sure u are..... ::)
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Yes MSNBC ha said..."close friends have said"..."they said" "sources close".....funny TA u did the drive by mention of Vanity Fair that u must have heard on MSNBC and then parroted that back on here. That article did the same thing, no facts just drivel, and nothing new on top of it. I'm not a Palin fan, so I don't care, but she doesn't appear done to me, otherwise she'd have said it.
Sure u are..... ::)
Crybaby,
Your party is finished.
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Ok TA....sure thing. Dems will loose in 2010 and loose in 2012 and should kill the Leftwing nutbags in the Dem party once and for all. Barry's tanking dude, slowly and surely. And u idiots own it all now. Full blame on the lib wing of the dem party.
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Ok TA....sure thing. Dems will loose in 2010 and loose in 2012 and should kill the Leftwing nutbags in the Dem party once and for all. Barry's tanking dude, slowly and surely. And u idiots own it all now. Full blame on the lib wing of the dem party.
Crybaby,
The democrats are not liberal enough.
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Yeah...an Americans love libs. ::)
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Yeah...an Americans love libs. ::)
Crybaby,
Americans for the most part are stupid people. The majority still think man was created in present form 6000-10000 years ago.
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Ok TA....sure thing. Dems will loose in 2010 and loose in 2012 and should kill the Leftwing nutbags in the Dem party once and for all. Barry's tanking dude, slowly and surely. And u idiots own it all now. Full blame on the lib wing of the dem party.
ever think of a Valium or xanax from time to time....I would say weed but thats a hippie lefty drug.
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Do they.... ::)
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The GOP is now dead.
Amen! ;D
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Crybaby,
Americans for the most part are stupid people. The majority still think man was created in present form 6000 years ago.
What an idiotic thing to say. Typical elitist liberal mentality. Americans for the most part are smart, hardworking, resourceful people.
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Do they.... ::)
Crybaby,
They do.
(http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/evolution.gif)
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Crybaby,
They do.
(http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/evolution.gif)
Personally I think Odin did it, but that is just my opinion.
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What an idiotic thing to say. Typical elitist liberal mentality. Americans for the most part are smart, hardworking, resourceful people.
Wrong.
Self-Serving, dumb and blind to Science and progress is more apt of a characterization for the majority. Luckily we have a system where the minority is protected and the majority is checked. America would look like a Christian Afghanistan if we turned it over to the religious majority.
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I would prefer ODIN. TA what matters now is that Barry is tanking in the polls and Americans don't like Liberals...I could care less who they believe in. U continue to act like the typical Lib...with drive by knowledge of politics.
Sure thing dude..sure thing.
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It is hard to believe anyone ever thought Palin was (VP) presidential timber. Talk about dodging a bullet. :-[
Some of the talking heads are saying this is a precursor to her taking on an even bigger role in the party. Um, no. You do not announce good political news on a Friday afternoon. I predict that Palin will now go away and stay away. Whew!
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What an idiotic thing to say. Typical elitist liberal mentality. Americans for the most part are smart, hardworking, resourceful people.
;D ::) ;D ::) ;D ::) ;D ::) ;D ::)
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I would prefer ODIN. TA what matters now is that Barry is tanking in the polls and Americans don't like Liberals...I could care less who they believe in. U continue to act like the typical Lib...with drive by knowledge of politics.
Sure thing dude..sure thing.
Sure thing what? You have proven that you know little about politics especially in the context of the entire historical landscape.
You offer nothing but whining with no basis in historicity or fact.
You are, Crybaby.
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maybe she wants to cash in on tv show/book about 5 minutes before alaska's economy collpases? Oil prices were thru the floor all year. When August comes and we get all this bad data on alaska's situation... she can point at the new guy and blame him.
In 2012, Obama won't be able to say "you crashed your own state's economy"...
Instead, it'll be "you quit 5 minutes before the economy went down."
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Sure thing what? You have proven that you know little about politics especially in the context of the entire historical landscape.
You offer nothing but whining with no basis in historicity or fact.
You are, Crybaby.
Ur kidding right..cut and paste boy. All of a sudden u read Vanity Fair....ok TA, u keep trying.
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Wrong.
Self-Serving, dumb and blind to Science and progress is more apt of a characterization for the majority. Luckily we have a system where the minority is protected and the majority is checked. America would look like a Christian Afghanistan if we turned it over to the religious majority.
Pure, unadulterated nonsense. Get out of the house more and mingle with your fellow Americans and you might have a different opinion. Broaden your horizons. There are terrific people in this country from coast to coast. We have a tremendous society, flaws and all. A wonderful system of government, that is sometimes corrupted by people. An enormous melting pot, with some who have race issues. An outstanding transportation and commerce system, with the bad apples present in any society. A peaceful political system. Terrific higher education opportunities. Lots of smart, funny people who give back to their communities. The world’s best military, filled with some of the best and brightest of our citizens. Great entertainers. And much more.
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Pure, unadulterated nonsense. Get out of the house more and mingle with your fellow Americans and you might have a different opinion. Broaden your horizons. There are terrific people in this country from coast to coast. We have a tremendous society, flaws and all. A wonderful system of government, that is sometimes corrupted by people. An enormous melting pot, with some who have race issues. An outstanding transportation and commerce system, with the bad apples present in any society. A peaceful political system. Terrific higher education opportunities. Lots of smart, funny people who give back to their communities. The world’s best military, filled with some of the best and brightest of our citizens. Great entertainers. And much more.
That still does not address that the majority of Americans are morons. The best, brightest and most entertaining do not come from your neck of the woods nor do they share your political leanings. ;)
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His neck of the woods???/....Thats why people don't like u and think ur full of shit. Ur best and brightest are who exactly...Olberman...Ted Kennedy....Stuart Smalley.
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That still does not address that the majority of Americans are morons. The best, brightest and most entertaining do not come from your neck of the woods nor do they share your political leanings. ;)
::) What's a shame is that even some liberal intellectuals think like this. Must suck to walk around thinking you're smarter than most people, when you're most certainly not. Your opinion might change as you get a little more life experience. Or not. :-\
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His neck of the woods???/....Thats why people don't like u and think ur full of shit. Ur best and brightest are who exactly...Olberman...Ted Kennedy....Stuart Smalley.
I bet Harry Reid and Dennis Kucinich make his list. :)
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Wrong.
Self-Serving, dumb and blind to Science and progress is more apt of a characterization for the majority. Luckily we have a system where the minority is protected and the majority is checked. America would look like a Christian Afghanistan if we turned it over to the religious majority.
What the fuck are you babbling on about now. yeah it would look like Christian Afghanistan accept for the part where women are beaten for showing to much skin, or the part where people are buried up to their neck and stoned, or accept the part where women are executed for being raped.
You don't know shit form shinola, your attempt at intellectual superiority is amusing at best. Your another one of these fuck heads thats sits around and reads a bunch of shit and thinks they are an expert on everything and above everyone else.
You must have gotten the ever living shit beat out of you in school.
(http://www.couliercreatures.com/images-bu/yngfrik1_bu.jpg)
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Conservative and intellectual don`t mix just as Conservative and funny don`t mix just as Conservative and entertaining do not mix.
Conservatives do make up a big part of the population. Certainly the majority of the dumb represented in my earlier graph.
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Sad. Alaskans seemed to really like her. Hopefully she will rebound with a high-profile FOX news show, and have a good career in TV.
that's probably exactly where she will wind up.
I think her political career is toast
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Romney/Palin in 2012! 8)
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She will never recover from the constant chant of, "you didn`t even finish one term at the statewide level".
There may be more to this as something perhaps is wrong.
i agree 100% with your analysis. if she left to run for prez she's done. but there may be something we don't know about. lets just hope it's not an health issue..
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His analysis....they've been churning this crap out all day. Now TA will think he's an astute political commentator.... I bet it ends up on his resume.
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lol. :)
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As I have said on numerous occasions- I am NOT a fan of Sarah Palin; I was NOT a fan of GW Bush and I do NOT believe that ignorant religious fanatics should govern the USA. However, the argument that she may be electable in a November or two, is perfectly rational and possible.
I would never vote for a Sarah Palin as president. ( as VP maybe, just because she wouldn't have enough power to cause alarm)- I also would never vote for a GW as prez or vice prez ( unless my only alternative was Kerry-- NOT Gore, I was too young to vote then!). BUT-- that being said, assuming Obama and his ilk totally screw the pooch in the coming year or two ( which I think is all but a foregone conclusion), I would absolutely vote for someone not of superior intelligence, but for someone that knew how to govern and was connected with mainstream America. Make no mistake, it is the independents, libertarians and other right leaning voting minorities that elected Obama in the first place. Ron Paul would never get elected ( nor should he-- and I say this as a pragmatic libertarian) and despite my eternal respect and admiration for McCain, he did not have the necessary support from the repub base. Unless this economy turns around, and all the nonsensical, astronomically expensive and religiously influenced Obamaesque legislation on deck improves America, the right will certainly have more than enough ammunition to make a stunning comeback during the next election cycle.
With approval ratings slipping, it begs the question; will allowing the less productive two thirds to tread water on account of the productive one third lead to a steady infusion of votes for the democrats, or an angry withdrawal predicated on vengeful naivete and sour pessemisive?
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the conspiracy theorist in me wonders if some big scandal comes out next week.
like, she resigned to get in front of it?
I was thinking the exact same thing. :)
I was wondering "Ok, which one of her kids is going to become a parent again?"
...either that or which one of them (Todd or Sarah) is going to be exposed?
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Palin's great for the base. she may travel the country to help congressional candidates. The base will come out in the thousands to see her. She will make the GOP some money.
But I don't understand this move, if she wants to be president. I mean, this is a highly erratic move. She could have finished her term in a year and retired just in time to annoince in jan 2011 that she wants to be president. Resigning is something candidates don't do. it's erratic.
I guess time will tell if it's a smart move or not. it's good for the GOP. They don't want her running for prez, but they love her as a local campaigner.
Not if she doesn't get re-elected for another term. If she can't win re-election as governor
...there's no way she'd be a viable candidate for president.
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She's spent so much time since the election NOT acting as governor that she might as well make it official
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The source from hot air in MSNBC.
They are the only ones saying this.
She is also going to release her itinerary soon.
http://twitter.com/AKGOVSarahPalin
We'll soon attach info on decision to not seek re-election... this is in Alaska's best interest, my family's happy... it is good, stay tuned
Looks like she's going to have to change her twitter name. ;)
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His analysis....they've been churning this crap out all day. Now TA will think he's an astute political commentator.... I bet it ends up on his resume.
Welcome back HH6. How was your honeymoon? :)
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Good riddance to bad rubbish!!!
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Welcome back HH6. How was your honeymoon? :)
Good weather....fair service...food got better as we went...plenty of free booze....ended up with a small stomach bug and a good tan.
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Showing yourself to the door this abruptly right before a long holiday weekend usually spells scandal. Things could get interesting in the coming weeks.
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Good weather....fair service...food got better as we went...plenty of free booze....ended up with a small stomach bug and a good tan.
Hmmm... a small stomache bug and a good tan... on your honeymoon? ...that's not good. :-\
No wonder you're still so grumpy. I figured all that boinking on your honeymoon would result in your returning in a good sunny disposition. At least you enjoyed the weather and the free booze. :D
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A couple thoughts on this...
1. Its best for the republican party if she does not play a significant role in national politics...for several reasons. As a fundraiser and speaker, fine, but I hope she doesn't run for national office.
2. We should not allow such a gang attack on any of our politicians. Because the liberal media did not accept a conservative religious female leader, she was attacked on several fronts. This could infuriate a % of women in this country who typically stayed out of politics. We must be able to accept strong female leaders that are not liberals.
3. Unless there is some sort of family or health crisis, I do not see her resignation as being fitting for a responsible leader.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAH
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A couple thoughts on this...
1. Its best for the republican party if she does not play a significant role in national politics...for several reasons. As a fundraiser and speaker, fine, but I hope she doesn't run for national office.
2. We should not allow such a gang attack on any of our politicians. Because the liberal media did not accept a conservative religious female leader, she was attacked on several fronts. This could infuriate a % of women in this country who typically stayed out of politics. We must be able to accept strong female leaders that are not liberals.
3. Unless there is some sort of family or health crisis, I do not see her resignation as being fitting for a responsible leader.
Palin was criticized just as harshly from her own party as she was from the left and it had nothing to do with her religious beliefs. Every time she opened her mouth she just continued to show the she was not fit to lead anything. Just the way she resigned proves that point. She was a fraud from the start and the glare of the national spotlight made that obvious to everyone.
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Wrong. Obama did not resign from his duties that the people elected him to do.
That' true. Didn't he just neglect them?
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I really cant understand why she has done this. If it's for a run in 2012 i'd say its a big mistake, you'll need an alien invasion to stop Obama from winining again. Maybe positioning herself for a 2016 run would be more sensible in which case a senate seat might work.
If she truly has had enough of politics thats understanadable, she got slammed, and if im honest deservedly so, some of her interviews during the campaign must have had rublican hob nobs crying themselves to sleep.
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she just wants a paycheck. the ethics bills $$$ are mounting bigtime in alaska. she's probably broke. she'll be rich in 2 months.
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I agree with the toe sucker for the most part. Very risky move if she intends to run for president.
Dick Morris: Palin Took Big Risk in Quitting Office
Friday, July 3, 2009 3:07 PM
By: Tim Collie
Reacting to Gov. Sarah Palin’s stunning resignation announcement Friday, political analyst and best-selling author Dick Morris said the former vice presidential candidate is likely freeing herself up for a run for the U.S. Senate next year or the presidency in 2012.
But Morris, a Newsmax columnist and one of the leading political minds in the United States, said he would not have advised Palin to resign in the middle of her term. It opens her up to charges that she is a quitter and reinforces an image of her as “flaky” in the mainstream media.
Morris declined to speculate what effect this could have on the GOP, which he said should be focusing on stopping President Barack Obama’s policies in healthcare and other areas. Palin is a formidable figure, he said, and if the GOP mounts a strong defense against Obama she’ll be one of many promising candidates in 2012.
“I think she felt too moored to Alaska and she had to get out of there to solidify her national and international credentials,’’ Morris said. “But that opens yourself up to the attack that you’ve only served half your term, two years. What kind of basis is that to think you could be president?
“I think it would have been better to serve out her term – I think it’s better to get that experience under your belt,” Morris said.
Still digesting the surprising news Friday just after Palin’s announcement, Morris offered four possibilities behind Palin’s reasoning:
# Palin could be preparing to challenge Sen. Lisa Murkowski in the Republican primary in 2010. Palin defeated Murkowski’s father, former Gov. Frank Murkowski, in the 2006 Republican primary.
# She’s fed up with politics because of “all the personal garbage she’s been subject to” and could be looking at a career as an author or even TV personality.
# She wants to run full-time for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.
# Now is simply not a good time to be governor because every state is facing shortfalls and Palin is dealing with a hostile legislature and Democratic critics who have showered her with unfounded ethics complaints.
“And then of course there’s the possibility of something we don’t know about, and in that case, we’ll just have to see,” Morris said.
But Morris was perplexed over how resigning in the middle of her term would help her in a presidential run, and who would have given her such advice among political professionals.
“I don’t see how this helps her other than to take her out of the line of fire as a governor, but she did need all the experience she can get,” Morris said. “She’s been the mayor of a town of 7,000 people except for two and a half years as governor.
“It’s not at all clear how this helps her.”
Morris said he was aware through contacts close to Palin that she was very sensitive about using her office to increase her national exposure. She was always bothered that she wasn’t given enough time to Alaska’s issues, a problem she hinted at in her short statement Friday.
Palin was also up against the insurmountable fact of Alaska’s geography – every political trip or conference would mean more days away from her state than the average governor would face in the lower 48.
“She was getting a lot of criticism about being out of state too much,’’ Morris said. “It’s not like the governor of New York where you can just hop down to Washington for a few hours and be back in the evening.
“I think maybe she was being too tied to the governorship and not being able to develop her image as a national person or develop credentials in foreign affairs,’’ Morris said.
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/dick_morris_sarah_palin/2009/07/03/231817.html
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True Adonis and intellectual don`t mix just as True Adonis and funny don`t mix just as True Adonis and entertaining do not mix.
Conservatives do make up a big part of the population. Certainly the majority of the dumb represented in my earlier graph.
You're a fool and a senseless parrot with no thoughts of his own, you prove this on the board day after day. And you have the balls to call a segment of the population "non intellectuals"? Honestly, you spend most of your time on here trying to convince everyone your an "intellectual" but sadly you only end up proving yourself a dumbass.
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and yet the critics said he didnt have the experience,,it doesnt matter in the U.S. you can do whatever the hell you want as proven by obama you can pretend to carry a blackberry and have it filled up with musci,,pretend to lose your blackberry to the public and make up a, "cool" agenda to get votes just because you feel that quitting something is worse than not being prepared or having the experience ro something elese does not make it any better one wrong does not make another wrong right or equally right it still wrong.
Wrong. Obama did not resign from his duties that the people elected him to do.
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I agree with the toe sucker for the most part. Very risky move if she intends to run for president.
The blogs are all over a new story regarding palin and the real reason she resigned. FOX news charlotte has it too.
http://www.foxcharlotte.com/dpp/news/politics/dpgo_Is_Palin_Facing_Embezzlement_Charges_mb_07042009_2638488
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The blogs are all over a new story regarding palin and the real reason she resigned. FOX news charlotte has it too.
http://www.foxcharlotte.com/dpp/news/politics/dpgo_Is_Palin_Facing_Embezzlement_Charges_mb_07042009_2638488
Interesting...all ill say is this Max Blumenthal can be a bit of a knob end, but he has tentacles reaching far into the dark corners of the political world and rarely lies about info he gets from his sources...something is definintely fishy.
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I just hope David Letterman doesn`t miss this opportunity!
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The blogs are all over a new story regarding palin and the real reason she resigned. FOX news charlotte has it too.
http://www.foxcharlotte.com/dpp/news/politics/dpgo_Is_Palin_Facing_Embezzlement_Charges_mb_07042009_2638488
Are those the same blogs that said she faked her pregnancy? ::)
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Are those the same blogs that said she faked her pregnancy? ::)
I posted the article from FOX news. It states the 2002 mess where a whole bunch of building materials from the arena project she approved suddenly appeared in her new house free of charge.
The blogs are sometimes wrong and sometimes right. The far-left people are very happy about this. Me, I'd rather palin get out of the news and just be a nice tv host and speaker for the repub party so that a more qualified person can run on the 2012 ticket.
Maybe you think she just quit her job for the reasons she posted - you know, something about 'lame duck' status occuring at 60% thru her term. Some people think there was a really good reason, and are waiting for that to come out. Who knows. but discounting FOX news as you are...?
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McCain weighs in on Palin decision
Posted: 05:46 PM ET
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Arizona Sen. John McCain, the 2008 Republican presidential candidate, released a statement following his former running mate Sarah Palin's decision to step down as Alaska governor:
"I have the greatest respect and affection for Sarah, Todd, and their family. I was deeply honored to have her as my running mate and believe she will continue to play an important leadership role in the Republican party and our nation."
McCain raised eyebrows during a spring appearance on the Tonight Show when he listed five current and former GOP governors as possible party leaders — but didn't include Palin.
The Arizona senator has said in other interviews it is too early to say whether he will support her should she run for president in 2012.
But he's also praised Palin since Election Day, saying late last year of the Alaska governor, "It's one of the great pleasures I've had to get to know her and her family, and I think she has a very bright future in a leadership position in the Republican Party."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Alaska's soon-to-be governor praises Palin
Posted: 10:41 AM ET
(CNN) — Alaskan Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell, who will succeed Gov. Sarah Palin after she leaves office later this month, called the governor Alaska's greatest gift to the United States on Saturday.
"I was very surprised at first," he said of Palin's decision to resign, which he said she told him Wednesday.
"But then as she began to explain why she was doing it, I began to see it was Sarah Palin, once again, moving to put Alaska's interest first," Parnell told CNN.
Palin, a Republican and John McCain's vice presidential running mate last year, said Friday she will step down as Alaska's chief executive by the end of the month and would not run for a second gubernatorial term in 2010.
"People who know me know that besides faith and family, nothing's more important to me than our beloved Alaska," Palin said at a news conference at her home in Wasilla.
Palin added in a statement that she was "determined to take the right path for Alaska even though it is not the easiest path."
"Once I decided not to run for re-election, I also felt that to embrace the conventional 'lame duck' status in this particular climate would just be another dose of 'politics as usual,' something I campaigned against and will always oppose."
Alaska's senior U.S. senator, Lisa Murkowski, was one of the people unhappy with Palin's decision.
"I am deeply disappointed that the governor has decided to abandon the state and her constituents before her term has concluded," the Republican said via satellite phone from interior Alaska, her office said.
Parnell said he accepted that others might see the governor's resignation in a different light than he does.
"She's accomplished more in these two and a half years than most governors accomplish in one or two terms," he said. "Our governor has been a great governor. She is going to be Alaska's and is Alaska's greatest gift to our country."
The soon-to-be governor said he intended to lead the state, to make sure people have jobs and that the state's finances are stable.
"Those are the things I'm going to be dealing with," he said. He will be sworn in on July 26.
Asked whether he planned on completing the term, he said "yes."
"But I am also conscious that we don't control life, so I may be dead tomorrow, and I'm not going to commit beyond that," he said, smiling.
Parnell said he planned to run for a full gubernatorial term in 2010.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/04/alaskas-soon-to-be-governor-praises-palin/#more-59075
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I posted the article from FOX news. It states the 2002 mess where a whole bunch of building materials from the arena project she approved suddenly appeared in her new house free of charge.
The blogs are sometimes wrong and sometimes right. The far-left people are very happy about this. Me, I'd rather palin get out of the news and just be a nice tv host and speaker for the repub party so that a more qualified person can run on the 2012 ticket.
Maybe you think she just quit her job for the reasons she posted - you know, something about 'lame duck' status occuring at 60% thru her term. Some people think there was a really good reason, and are waiting for that to come out. Who knows. but discounting FOX news as you are...?
You posted an article with accusations by a liberal blogger.
I don't know why she quit her job. I'm reserving judgment until she explains it. My initial view is she should have finished her term, unless she was going to spend more time away from the state fundraising for other candidates, running for president, etc., in which case she has already separated herself from the numerous politicians who use their existing office as a springboard for higher offices.
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You posted an article with accusations by a liberal blogger.
I posted a link to a FOX news affiliate.
Now, if you want to go accusing FOX news of something, that's between you and them. Personally, I find FOX to be a pretty accurate source. If you disagree, that's fine.
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Here is the entire article:
Is Palin Facing Embezzlement Charges?
Updated: Saturday, 04 Jul 2009, 3:43 PM EDT
Published : Saturday, 04 Jul 2009, 3:42 PM EDT
* By MIKE BRODY
(MYFOX NATIONAL) - When Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin abruptly announced Friday that she would leave office more than a year early, many wondered what she would do and why she was resigning. Now we may have some answers.
Reports have surfaced that Palin may have quit her job because she was trying to avert a major, yet-to-be-disclosed corruption scandal.
The crux of the rumor is that Alaska building company Spenard Building Supplies (SBS) was awarded a contract by Palin to build a hockey arena in Wasilla, Alaska, and in return, SBS helped construct the Palins' home.
According to Huffington Post blogger Shannyn Moore , "Both structures, it is said, feature the same windows, same wood, and same products."
Max Blumenthal of The Daily Beast wrote that federal investigators have been seizing paperwork from SBS in recent months, searching for evidence that Palin and her husband Todd steered lucrative contracts to the well-connected company in exchange for gifts like the construction of their home on pristine Lake Lucille in 2002.
A 2008 Associated Content report states that though Todd Palin told Fox News he built the home with the help of a few "buddies," public records revealed that SBS supplied the materials for the house.
In her press conference Friday, Palin said she had decided against running for re-election as Alaska's governor, and believed it was best to leave office even though she had 1.5 years left to her term.
"Many just accept that lame duck status, and they hit that road," Palin said. "They draw a paycheck. They kind of milk it. And I'm not going to put Alaskans through that.
Andrea Mitchell reported on MSNBC that, according to "people very close to Sarah Palin," she has "told her supporters that she is out of politics, period. She is fed up with politics. She doesn't like her life. She feels that she needs to raise her family."
http://www.foxcharlotte.com/dpp/news/politics/dpgo_Is_Palin_Facing_Embezzlement_Charges_mb_07042009_2638488
Clearly a "Fox News" report. ::)
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[gasp] Maybe she was worried about the "tell all" book?
LEVI VS. SARAH PALIN BATTLE CONTINUES
July 4, 2009 --
THE battle between Levi Johnston (above) and Sarah Palin isn't over yet. Johnston -- best known for impregnating the former vice-presidential candidate's daughter, Bristol -- "is shopping a book," his bodyguard/publicist, Tank, tells New York magazine. And it seems the book will focus on the Wasilla, Alaska, political family. "There are still many untold stories about the Palins," he said. Until the tell-all is released, though, Johnston is considering "a leading role" in a movie and a possible upcoming TV "docu-drama."
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07042009/gossip/pagesix/levi_vs__sarah_palin_battle_continues_177489.htm
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If you are interested, here is that Vanity Fair article that caused such a stir!
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/sarah-palin200908
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PALIN FCKED UP,,YOU GUYS ARE AL OVER HER VAGINA LIKE ITS NEVER BEEN USED you guys fali to realize she is stupid,,,stpid,,stupid she quit because she couldnt hack it one bit,,i promise you guys thise: this thread will be 10 pages because you guys cant quit talkinga bout her,,,,please quit eh sis a wquiter im glad she didnt win the elections with mcsame i tricked you guys already about mcsame winning,,,
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PALIN FCKED UP,,YOU GUYS ARE AL OVER HER VAGINA LIKE ITS NEVER BEEN USED you guys fali to realize she is stupid,,,stpid,,stupid she quit because she couldnt hack it one bit,,i promise you guys thise: this thread will be 10 pages because you guys cant quit talkinga bout her,,,,please quit eh sis a wquiter im glad she didnt win the elections with mcsame i tricked you guys already about mcsame winning,,,
::) ::)
Look at what you just wrote......and you dare call a Governor stupid?
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Palin attorney warns press on 'defamatory material'
Source: Politico
Ratcheting up her offensive against the news media, Gov. Sarah Palin’s attorney threatened Saturday to sue mainstream news organizations if they publish “defamatory” stories relating to whether Palin is under federal investigation.
In an extraordinary four-page letter, Alaska-based attorney Thomas Van Flein warns of severe consequences should speculation that until now has largely been confined to blogs about whether Palin embezzled funds in the construction of a Wasilla, Alaska, sports arena find its way into print.
“This is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who re-publish the defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times and The Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law,” Van Flein warned, citing Alaska liberal blogger Shannyn Moore.
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FLASHBACK: Palin says that Hilary shouldn't whine about press coverage
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Here is the entire article:
Is Palin Facing Embezzlement Charges?
Updated: Saturday, 04 Jul 2009, 3:43 PM EDT
Published : Saturday, 04 Jul 2009, 3:42 PM EDT
* By MIKE BRODY
(MYFOX NATIONAL) - When Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin abruptly announced Friday that she would leave office more than a year early, many wondered what she would do and why she was resigning. Now we may have some answers.
Reports have surfaced that Palin may have quit her job because she was trying to avert a major, yet-to-be-disclosed corruption scandal.
The crux of the rumor is that Alaska building company Spenard Building Supplies (SBS) was awarded a contract by Palin to build a hockey arena in Wasilla, Alaska, and in return, SBS helped construct the Palins' home.
According to Huffington Post blogger Shannyn Moore , "Both structures, it is said, feature the same windows, same wood, and same products."
Max Blumenthal of The Daily Beast wrote that federal investigators have been seizing paperwork from SBS in recent months, searching for evidence that Palin and her husband Todd steered lucrative contracts to the well-connected company in exchange for gifts like the construction of their home on pristine Lake Lucille in 2002.
A 2008 Associated Content report states that though Todd Palin told Fox News he built the home with the help of a few "buddies," public records revealed that SBS supplied the materials for the house.
In her press conference Friday, Palin said she had decided against running for re-election as Alaska's governor, and believed it was best to leave office even though she had 1.5 years left to her term.
"Many just accept that lame duck status, and they hit that road," Palin said. "They draw a paycheck. They kind of milk it. And I'm not going to put Alaskans through that.
Andrea Mitchell reported on MSNBC that, according to "people very close to Sarah Palin," she has "told her supporters that she is out of politics, period. She is fed up with politics. She doesn't like her life. She feels that she needs to raise her family."
http://www.foxcharlotte.com/dpp/news/politics/dpgo_Is_Palin_Facing_Embezzlement_Charges_mb_07042009_2638488
Clearly a "Fox News" report. ::)
so she's going to quit her job because she perceives her herself to be a lame duck and/or she's just too lazy to keep working.
Won't her replacement be an even lamer duck?
How is that fair to Alaskans?
Does this woman ever tell the truth
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Palin attorney warns press on 'defamatory material'
Source: Politico
Ratcheting up her offensive against the news media, Gov. Sarah Palin’s attorney threatened Saturday to sue mainstream news organizations if they publish “defamatory” stories relating to whether Palin is under federal investigation.
In an extraordinary four-page letter, Alaska-based attorney Thomas Van Flein warns of severe consequences should speculation that until now has largely been confined to blogs about whether Palin embezzled funds in the construction of a Wasilla, Alaska, sports arena find its way into print.
“This is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who re-publish the defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times and The Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law,” Van Flein warned, citing Alaska liberal blogger Shannyn Moore.
You hear that "Fox News"??
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so she's going to quit her job because she perceives her herself to be a lame duck and/or she's just too lazy to keep working.
Won't her replacement be an even lamer duck?
How is that fair to Alaskans?
Does this woman ever tell the truth
She had a series of ongoing projects, including one big bill she vowed to completed next year, that she just talked about on July 1st.
Methinks the decision to resign was very hasty. Quitting after 60% of your term, when you're looking at 500k in legal bills, earning only $150k per year as governor?
She's probably broke and looking for a check. Did an upcoming mess spurn it? We'll find out in the coming weeks, if so. She's threatening to sue people for accusing her of wrongdoing - but her statement completely doesn't mention how her hubby and 2 of his mystery friends were able to build an entire home in 3 months in their spare time. THAT is what 'housegate' is about - if labor or parts came from another project, it was illegal and a felony at that.
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FLASHBACK: Palin says that Hilary shouldn't whine about press coverage
Dammit!!! When will you people learn how to post youtube vids?! 50 lashes with a wet noodle! >:(
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She had a series of ongoing projects, including one big bill she vowed to completed next year, that she just talked about on July 1st.
Methinks the decision to resign was very hasty. Quitting after 60% of your term, when you're looking at 500k in legal bills, earning only $150k per year as governor?
She's probably broke and looking for a check. Did an upcoming mess spurn it? We'll find out in the coming weeks, if so. She's threatening to sue people for accusing her of wrongdoing - but her statement completely doesn't mention how her hubby and 2 of his mystery friends were able to build an entire home in 3 months in their spare time. THAT is what 'housegate' is about - if labor or parts came from another project, it was illegal and a felony at that.
yeah - the lame duck excuse is not going over too well and really makes absolutely no sense.
I think this woman is not only a nutjob but a pathological liar
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I'd have more respect if she'd just come out and say "I've got half a million in legal fees due, and I don't make that much. I'm going to quit so I can make a big pile of money!"
instead, it's this thing about doing the noble thing for Alaska? Governors don't HAVE to do lame press junkets the last part of their term, much less the last year and a half? They can keep doing quality work for their state.
IMO, she probably did the math. Leave the job, get rich. Get out of cold Alaska and spend time in the lower 48. Escape alaska before low oil prices lead to a huge financial mess next year up there. And any other drama in the pipeline we're not hearing.
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I'd have more respect if she'd just come out and say "I've got half a million in legal fees due, and I don't make that much. I'm going to quit so I can make a big pile of money!"
instead, it's this thing about doing the noble thing for Alaska? Governors don't HAVE to do lame press junkets the last part of their term, much less the last year and a half? They can keep doing quality work for their state.
IMO, she probably did the math. Leave the job, get rich. Get out of cold Alaska and spend time in the lower 48. Escape alaska before low oil prices lead to a huge financial mess next year up there. And any other drama in the pipeline we're not hearing.
yeah and her excuse makes no sense because if she were going to be a lame duck then how could the Lt. Gov be any less lame.
he's the epitome of lameness. he's nothing more than a place holder until the next election
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essentially you just said she is in bed with obama,,,
I'd have more respect if she'd just come out and say "I've got half a million in legal fees due, and I don't make that much. I'm going to quit so I can make a big pile of money!"
instead, it's this thing about doing the noble thing for Alaska? Governors don't HAVE to do lame press junkets the last part of their term, much less the last year and a half? They can keep doing quality work for their state.
IMO, she probably did the math. Leave the job, get rich. Get out of cold Alaska and spend time in the lower 48. Escape alaska before low oil prices lead to a huge financial mess next year up there. And any other drama in the pipeline we're not hearing.
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Alaska’s Lt. Gov. says ‘insane’ legal bills forced Palin to quit
Alaska’s next governor says that Sarah Palin blamed “insane” legal bills connected to non-stop ethics probes which forced her to resign.
Appearing on Fox News Sunday, Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell said, “I think what I heard from the governor really had to do with the weight on her, the concern she had for the cost of all the ethics investigations and the like — the way that that weighed on her with respect to her inability to just move forward Alaska’s agenda on behalf of Alaskans in the current context of the environment. So that’s what I saw.”
“Mr. Parnell, who is scheduled to take over for Ms. Palin on July 26, said it was costing the State of Alaska about $2 million just to pay for the staff to deal with the records requests from the ethics complaints,” the New York Times notes.
Parnell added, ““That was just over the top, and I think she used the word insane in her remarks.”
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Alaska’s Lt. Gov. says ‘insane’ legal bills forced Palin to quit
Alaska’s next governor says that Sarah Palin blamed “insane” legal bills connected to non-stop ethics probes which forced her to resign.
Appearing on Fox News Sunday, Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell said, “I think what I heard from the governor really had to do with the weight on her, the concern she had for the cost of all the ethics investigations and the like — the way that that weighed on her with respect to her inability to just move forward Alaska’s agenda on behalf of Alaskans in the current context of the environment. So that’s what I saw.”
“Mr. Parnell, who is scheduled to take over for Ms. Palin on July 26, said it was costing the State of Alaska about $2 million just to pay for the staff to deal with the records requests from the ethics complaints,” the New York Times notes.
Parnell added, ““That was just over the top, and I think she used the word insane in her remarks.”
so all the other reasons she gave were just more lies?
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so all the other reasons she gave were just more lies?
Straw, go ahead, keep attacking her. Palin is going to run circles around you no matter what she does.
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Sad. Alaskans seemed to really like her. Hopefully she will rebound with a high-profile FOX news show, and have a good career in TV.
Your one of the few who seem to get it.She is going to put her book out,tour and then go into the media.2012?I doubt it.Goodbye Gretta,hello Sarah.
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Straw, go ahead, keep attacking her. Palin is going to run circles around you no matter what she does.
How is it attacking her?
She said one thing, now we hear from the Lt. Gov that it is something else.
Question is, why couldn't she just come out and say it? Whatever reason instead of giving some long ass rambling, no sense making little speech that really did nothing.
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Your one of the few who seem to get it.She is going to put her book out,tour and then go into the media.2012?I doubt it.Goodbye Gretta,hello Sarah.
Honestly, it is embarasing for our country how badly they treated her and her family. She did not deserve a fraction of the garbage she got.
Billy - I posted my own thread about Palin being a convenient distraction for Obama supporters for 10 reasons.
There is not going to be a recovery so long as he is president.
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Politics, you gotta love it!
Maybe it was about location? Blogoveich went down fighting to keep his positon, Palin voluntarily stepped down.
Both had legal issues to deal with while running their states.
I honestly don't see Palin running for public office. She will stump for candidates to raise money and do whatever else to get garner income her celebrity can bring. Smart career move, bad political move.
Sandra
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Politics, you gotta love it!
Maybe it was about location? Blogoveich went down fighting to keep his positon, Palin voluntarily stepped down.
Both had legal issues to deal with while running their states.
I honestly don't see Palin running for public office. She will stump for candidates to raise money and do whatever else to get garner income her celebrity can bring. Smart career move, bad political move.
Sandra
How can you compare Blago to Palin?
Blago is under Federal indictment while EVERY SINGLE SMEAR AGAINST PALIN HAS BEEN DISMISSED.
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How can you compare Blago to Palin?
Blago is under Federal indictment while EVERY SINGLE SMEAR AGAINST PALIN HAS BEEN DISMISSED.
Both govenors, both dealing with accusations, investigations, running a state.
One dealt with it, the other one didn't.
Simple.
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Both govenors, both dealing with accusations, investigations, running a state.
One dealt with it, the other one didn't.
Simple.
Amazing.
Palin was slandered over ten times and blago is on tape selling his seat and you compare the two???
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Amazing.
Palin was slandered over ten times and blago is on tape selling his seat and you compare the two???
Yes, both took oaths to govern over their states.
Neither were able to finish the job they swore to.
For whatever reasons, those are the facts.
Sandra
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Rove 'perplexed' by Palin, Huckabee calls move 'risky'
Politico Live
Former Bush adviser Karl Rove and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee both seemed to be scratching their heads over Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's decision to resign her office in an appearance along with Alaska Lt. Gov Sean Parnell on "Fox News Sunday."
Rove said, "I'm a little perplexed," since "she's not going to be able to escape media attention."
And Huckabee deemed it "a risky strategy," adding that "if she did get out because of a feeling of getting chased, that's not going to stop if she stays in politics."
He also questioned the way the resignation was announced, saying, "You don't call a press conference to create questions, you call one to resolve them."
Huckabee, looking at his own time as a governor, asked that "If that had been the case for me, I would have quit about the first month? Been there, done that.? One of the things you have to do is decide, 'Look, they're not going to chase me out.'"
"The danger that Sarah Palin faces," said Huckabee -- who said that "I'm a Sarah Palin fan and I like her personally" "the challenge that she's going to have is people who say, '"Look if they chase you out of this it won't get any easier for you."
Both Huckabee and Rove counseled that Palin would now have to demonstrate that she was capable of effecting change without holding elected office if she wants to establish herself as a viable candidate for the GOP's 2012 presidential nomination.
Said Rove, "She can't be a conventional candidate, she never has been."
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Yes, both took oaths to govern over their states.
Neither were able to finish the job they swore to.
For whatever reasons, those are the facts.
Sandra
I agree, she should not have quit.
However, Blago quit for being under federal indictment and selling his Senate seat.
Palin, we still not not really know. What I do know is that she has 500k is legal bills to pay off because of false allegations, every one which has been dismissed.
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It will be interesting to see what comes out over the time.
Everyone knows politics is a nasty business.
If she does do a fox show, it will be interesting to see.
Will the family stay in Alaska or move to another state?
Sandra
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Rove 'perplexed' by Palin, Huckabee calls move 'risky'
Politico Live
Former Bush adviser Karl Rove and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee both seemed to be scratching their heads over Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's decision to resign her office in an appearance along with Alaska Lt. Gov Sean Parnell on "Fox News Sunday."
Rove said, "I'm a little perplexed," since "she's not going to be able to escape media attention."
And Huckabee deemed it "a risky strategy," adding that "if she did get out because of a feeling of getting chased, that's not going to stop if she stays in politics."
He also questioned the way the resignation was announced, saying, "You don't call a press conference to create questions, you call one to resolve them."
Huckabee, looking at his own time as a governor, asked that "If that had been the case for me, I would have quit about the first month? Been there, done that.? One of the things you have to do is decide, 'Look, they're not going to chase me out.'"
"The danger that Sarah Palin faces," said Huckabee -- who said that "I'm a Sarah Palin fan and I like her personally" "the challenge that she's going to have is people who say, '"Look if they chase you out of this it won't get any easier for you."
Both Huckabee and Rove counseled that Palin would now have to demonstrate that she was capable of effecting change without holding elected office if she wants to establish herself as a viable candidate for the GOP's 2012 presidential nomination.
Said Rove, "She can't be a conventional candidate, she never has been."
hukabee is an ass.He dares compare what he went through to what Palin went through?Hey Mike,did anyone ever imply your kids werent yours?Did anyone call your 14 year old daughter a whore?Go back to thumping your filthy Bible Preacher.You trying to be MR. ME TOO is pathetic.
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Rove 'perplexed' by Palin, Huckabee calls move 'risky'
Republican party telling us they don't want her in 2012.
She's gonna get rich now, but running for prez? I don't think repubs want her. I'm happy for any american able to make a good living.
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Republican party telling us they don't want her in 2012.
She's gonna get rich now, but running for prez? I don't think repubs want her. I'm happy for any american able to make a good living.
Hey 240 - how is that stimulus doing??? 4 million jobs created yet?
As far as Palin goes, you know I like her and I admit her flaws. i think she has amazing potential and very decent core. I think all but the most rabid left wing nuts will admit she was not treated fairly and her family was subject to vile disgusting behavior by a lunatic left wing.
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Hey 240 - how is that stimulus doing??? 4 million jobs created yet?
Not yet. 18 months until I'll determine if it works or not.
As far as Palin goes, you know I like her and I admit her flaws. i think she has amazing potential and very decent core. I think all but the most rabid left wing nuts will admit she was not treated fairly and her family was subject to vile disgusting behavior by a lunatic left wing.
She used them as props. They directly contradicted her positions on many issues. I don't trust a skinny chef. I don't trust a woman who says abstinence works when her own pregnant kid admits it doesn't. I don't trust a woman on education when her kids don't finish high school. Etc etc.
However, now that palin isn't in a position to let her religious beliefs control our nation, I'm okay with her. I hope she gets stinkin rich and has a good time working for repub candidates. I agree with her on most issues - I just don't think she was qualified to be prez.
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Straw, go ahead, keep attacking her. Palin is going to run circles around you no matter what she does.
run circles around me? A guy on a obscure message board?
wtf?
Maybe I'm just not getting her point. She says she's stepping down because she would be a lame duck and that would be unfair to Alaskans. So how does putting an even lamer duck in her place improve the situation?
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for once I actually agree with George Will.
Here are his thoughts on Palins resignation:
"The one that rings most hollow is, she doesn't want to put Alaska through the terror of [her] being a lame-duck governor," Will said. "If she is just weary of it, one can understand that. Still, she made a contract with [voters] to serve out her term. And she said, in her own words, she now is a quitter."
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I think that 'lame duck' thing was something she just came up with during the speech.
She started with 1 reason then started rambling onto others. The basketball analogy, was clearly made up at the time.
These are the kind of things that mccain's campaign didn't let her do - go off message and "over-explain" things. Remember when nobody was asking about Todd's AIP membership in teh early days of the campaign, and she wanted to put out a press release anyway? She's not all that shrewd politically.
'The lady doth protest too much' is the phrase. She has put out a few more detailed resignation releases this past weekend.
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I agree that she should not have resigned. However, in my mind there are massive issues other than her and MJ that need to be front and center.
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Not yet. 18 months until I'll determine if it works or not.
She used them as props. They directly contradicted her positions on many issues. I don't trust a skinny chef. I don't trust a woman who says abstinence works when her own pregnant kid admits it doesn't. I don't trust a woman on education when her kids don't finish high school. Etc etc.
However, now that palin isn't in a position to let her religious beliefs control our nation, I'm okay with her. I hope she gets stinkin rich and has a good time working for repub candidates. I agree with her on most issues - I just don't think she was qualified to be prez.
Thats fine and legit.I hope you feel the same about Joe Biden who is BY FAR the number one anti-drug guy in te country but has a coke head for a dughter,or Al Gore and his wife who campaigned against the bad influence of rock music and then ended up having a stoner,junkie kid who is a criminal.I guess banning rock music from the house didnt really stop him from becoming a junkie.
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It still holds that the GOP desperately needs money and has few people that can bring it in as quickly as she can.
She was extremely limited in what she could do for the party in Alaska.
If she runs in 2012 or 2016 makes little difference.
The GOP needs at least the House in 2010.
If she can help accomplish this, she will be back on the rise.
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After the filth she has been subjected to by the worst elements of our society, I wont pass judgement on anything she does at this point.
Instead, we need to focus on the out of control marxist in the WH who needs to lose on cap & trade, health care, amnesty for illegals, more bailouts, and his entire communist agenda.
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After the filth she has been subjected to by the worst elements of our society, I wont pass judgement on anything she does at this point.
Instead, we need to focus on the out of control marxist in the WH who needs to lose on cap & trade, health care, amnesty for illegals, more bailouts, and his entire communist agenda.
when you refer to Obama as marxist or communist it just makes me think you're a nut and I can't take anything you say seriously.
It's the same instinctual response that I had when you were telling us all how great Palin was. Comments like that just make it impossible to take you seriously
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when you refer to Obama as marxist or communist it just makes me think you're a nut and I can't take anything you say seriously.
It's the same instinctual response that I had when you were telling us all how great Palin was. Comments like that just make it impossible to take you seriously
He is a marxist. Do i need to go over this with you again:
1. His friends and mentors are marxists (Rev. Wright, Ayeres, Rashidi, et al)
2. His policies are marxist (Nationalizing industry after industry, massively punishing businesses and massive taxation, "spreading the wealth")
3. His own book said he was friends and allied with the "marxists" in college (Its in Dreams of my Father)
4. He sides with Marxists (Chavez, Ortega, Zelaya)
You want more???
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Thats fine and legit.I hope you feel the same about Joe Biden who is BY FAR the number one anti-drug guy in te country but has a coke head for a dughter,or Al Gore and his wife who campaigned against the bad influence of rock music and then ended up having a stoner,junkie kid who is a criminal.I guess banning rock music from the house didnt really stop him from becoming a junkie.
Tipper Gore is a fcuking idiot.
That is it.
Period.
She's a nut crusading "Family values".
As for Joe Biden and having a daughter being a junkie - I can't say I'm judging him for that.
Just as I'm not really being too hard on Limbaugh for his addiction. It's only when they're being hypocritical about that it becomes a problem.
The whole "do as I say, not as I do" thing.
I'm sure you agree with me on that.
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He is a marxist. Do i need to go over this with you again:
1. His friends and mentors are marxists (Rev. Wright, Ayeres, Rashidi, et al)
2. His policies are marxist (Nationalizing industry after industry, massively punishing businesses and massive taxation, "spreading the wealth")
3. His own book said he was friends and allied with the "marxists" in college (Its in Dreams of my Father)
4. He sides with Marxists (Chavez, Ortega, Zelaya)
You want more???
No, that's more than enough to prove you've lost your mind
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No, that's more than enough to prove you've lost your mind
has he ever told you he started his own business?
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No, that's more than enough to prove you've lost your mind
Really, which one?
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Tipper Gore is a fcuking idiot.
That is it.
Period.
She's a nut crusading "Family values".
As for Joe Biden and having a daughter being a junkie - I can't say I'm judging him for that.
Just as I'm not really being too hard on Limbaugh for his addiction. It's only when they're being hypocritical about that it becomes a problem.
The whole "do as I say, not as I do" thing.
I'm sure you agree with me on that.
Yes,as far as I know and can see,woyuldnt abstinance have been best for Palins daughter?She certainly proved she is pro life.By the way,I always see pussies on here like Lurker knock her daughter,he seems dead ass silence when it comes to her son serving in Iraq.
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Whatever Palin has decided, she wins. Media and haters, alike...don't get cocky. You haven't done anything. hahahahaha
She's the real deal and no brutality from the MSM and others who don't like the idea of a woman who is extremely attractive, strong-willed, very smart, hold's strong to her Christian belief, and is pro-life (all while holding public office and doing it well) can take any of these accomplishments away from her.
Truth be known.... you HOPE she's leaving the public stage, because she makes you panic and get short of breath to think someone like this might have favor with a majority of the country. The media has a monopoly, but it only has a monopoly on the means to project the notion that this is what all of America things. In truth, you truly ARE the minority. Ask BayGM and his friends out in California.
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Really, which one?
all of them.
Nothing is true.
At best they are all gross exagerations if not just complete misrepresenation.
You've already told us that your friends are all HYSTERICAL over obama and I certainly can see that in your statements
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Whatever Palin has decided, she wins. Media and haters, alike...don't get cocky. You haven't done anything. hahahahaha
She's the real deal and no brutality from the MSM and others who don't like the idea of a woman who is extremely attractive, strong-willed, very smart, hold's strong to her Christian belief, and is pro-life (all while holding public office and doing it well) can take any of these accomplishments away from her.
Truth be known.... you HOPE she's leaving the public stage, because she makes you panic and get short of breath to think someone like this might have favor with a majority of the country. The media has a monopoly, but it only has a monopoly on the means to project the notion that this is what all of America things. In truth, you truly ARE the minority. Ask BayGM and his friends out in California.
you're aware she's now a party unto herself.
Even her few remaining supporters in the GOP are now either puzzled or openly critical of her latest move
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all of them.
Nothing is true.
At best they are all gross exagerations if not just complete misrepresenation.
You've already told us that your friends are all HYSTERICAL over obama and I certainly can see that in your statements
Yes, people who actually work for a living, produce jobs and value in the real economy are panicked over Obama.
The rest of the leeches, about 50% of the population on some sort of hand out or giveway, could care less.
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all of them.
Nothing is true.
At best they are all gross exagerations if not just complete misrepresenation.
You've already told us that your friends are all HYSTERICAL over obama and I certainly can see that in your statements
Ok. I'll make you a deal. If I can prove every point I made with evidence, you become a Palin supporter. Deal or not???
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Ok. I'll make you a deal. If I can prove every point I made with evidence, you become a Palin supporter. Deal or not???
why would proving any of those ridiculous claims justify supporting Palin.
At best they would only justify not supporting Obama.
If you've got the time and energy knock yourself out but let's start with the first one. Ayers was not a friend or mentor. Wright was his pastor and I'm inclined to believe that Obama only attended becasue it was politically correct at the time. He's not in any way a mentor. etc.... Try to calm down and stop being so "hysterical" Work on your business, go the gym, see a movie, take your antipsychotic meds and try to relax
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He is a marxist. Do i need to go over this with you again:
1. His friends and mentors are marxists (Rev. Wright, Ayeres, Rashidi, et al)
2. His policies are marxist (Nationalizing industry after industry, massively punishing businesses and massive taxation, "spreading the wealth")
3. His own book said he was friends and allied with the "marxists" in college (Its in Dreams of my Father)
4. He sides with Marxists (Chavez, Ortega, Zelaya)
You want more???
1. Reverend Wright is not a Marxist - he is a Christian and one of Karl Marx most famous quotes are: "Religion is the opium the people." Ie, Marx was anti-religion. Wright is religious.
Ayers however, yes. You are correct. He considers himself a Marxist.
2. Obama hasn't nationalized "industry after industry". And even if he did, that is not something that necessarily could be considered Marxism. It depends. Ie, look at Europe during the medieval era. Many kings would "nationalize" the land from small counts and farmers, and tax them. It wasn't Marxism then. Rather, it was Feudalism.
3. So you're going by the old "guilt by association" here? Because I post on a board with conservatives and liberals, I then am... both? ???
4. Ortega is a Socialist, and have a strong tie to the Catholic Church. Hard to think such a man would be a Marxist. Chavez - not a Marxist. However a promoter of his homecooked version of socialism. Bolivarism.
Chavez has a tarnished democratic record.
But again, guilt by association? And what association?
I think critisism like this against Obama is total bullshit to be honest.
It's not legit. He's got a solid record in these areas.
Where Obama is flawed - and this is fcuking serious – is integrity issues.
He is still not gonna stand up for the internet users against all these big fat record companies.
That's a disgrace.
I think it's also a big fat warning sign that he may not be prepared to protect civil rights in other areas either.
What the fcuk happened to making the pics of those criminal militaries public anyway?
That was weak.
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Saturday, February 16, 2008
Obama: 'I Chose My Friends Carefully... The Marxist Professors and Structural Feminists'
We picked up a paperbound copy of Barack Obama's DREAMS FROM MY FATHER:A STORY OF RACE AND INHERITANCE.The book was #1 on the New York Times Bestseller List.It's odd that it doesn't have an index.Anyway,Barack Obama talks of his time at Occidental College in California.Here's a quote from pages 100 and 101:
To avoid being mistaken for a sellout,I chose my friends carefully.The more politically active black students.The foreign students.The Chicanos.The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets.At night,in the dorms,we discussed neocolonialism,Franz Fanon,Eurocentrism,and patriarchy.When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake,we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling constraints.We weren't indifferent or careless or insecure.We were alienated.
It appears Senator Obama's writings are going to be looked at.Is this just youthful Marxism? For a look at Obama's socialist relationships after college,click on this link.Here's a video of Obama endorsing socialist Bernie Sanders for Senate.I guess some people don't give up their enthusiasm for Marxism long after leaving college.
Posted by Steve Bartin
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http://nalert.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-i-chose-friends-carefully-marxist.html
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you're aware she's now a party unto herself.
Even her few remaining supporters in the GOP are now either puzzled or openly critical of her latest move
You just proved my point, bro.
The media has a monopoly, but it only has a monopoly on the means to project the notion that this is what all of America things. In truth, you truly ARE the minority.
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are you serious?
That's your "proof". A few paragraphs taken out of context.
Are you going to tell me Obama is a punk rocker and a "structural feminist (wtf?) and a Chicano too?
I presume you've read the entire book.....right?
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are you serious?
That's your "proof". A few paragraphs taken out of context.
Are you going to tell me Obama is a punk rocker and a "structural feminist (wtf?) and a Chicano too?
I presume you've read the entire book.....right?
Wait, I am going to send you stuff you wont want to believe, thats fine, but the end goals of Marx and Obama are the same.
Obama is not that stupid to come out and admit what he is because he knows most people would be turned off. Its a process, not an event.
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You just proved my point, bro.
The media has a monopoly, but it only has a monopoly on the means to project the notion that this is what all of America things. In truth, you truly ARE the minority.
what point of yours did I prove again?
You're aware that EVERYONE (left, right, center) are now either baffled (at best) or critical of Palin.
You're suggesting this is all a big liberal media conspiracy and really the majority of America supports her?
do I understand you correctly?
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Wait, I am going to send you stuff you wont want to believe, thats fine, but the end goals of Marx and Obama are the same.
Obama is not that stupid to come out and admit what he is because he knows most people would be turned off. Its a process, not an event.
I say this was no disrespect - I really think you've lost your mind or you're at least well on the way there
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Wait, I am going to send you stuff you wont want to believe, thats fine, but the end goals of Marx and Obama are the same.
Obama is not that stupid to come out and admit what he is because he knows most people would be turned off. Its a process, not an event.
You are so far gone to the right-wing loony bin its almost frightening.
I feel sorry for you to live in such self-induced paranoia. You must be a complete wreck with what you put yourself through day in and day out.
The hilarity of it all is that you contrived the whole thing from start to finish.
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what point of yours did I prove again?
You're aware that EVERYONE (left, right, center) are now either baffled (at best) or critical of Palin.
You're suggesting this is all a big liberal media conspiracy and really the majority of America supports her?
do I understand you correctly?
No conspiracies, bro. Just what is.
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I say this was no disrespect - I really think you've lost your mind or you're at least well on the way there
I think he needs to consult the DSM manual. He is bordering on III-IV Paranoia and Delusional disorder.
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No conspiracies, bro. Just what is.
so I've accurately summarized your point of view?
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You are so far gone to the right-wing loony bin its almost frightening.
I feel sorry for you to live in such self-induced paranoia. You must be a complete wreck with what you put yourself through day in and day out.
The hilarity of it all is that you contrived the whole thing from start to finish.
Hysterical, I actually work for a living, have employees, support the economy, make and spend money, while you post your nonsens earticles from someone's basement and are unemployed.
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Hysterical, I actually work for a living, have employees, support the economy, make and spend money, while you post your nonsens earticles from someone's basement and are unemployed.
Can you prove any of this?
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,he seems dead ass silence when it comes to her son serving in Iraq.
#1 I have utmost respect for people serving our country. Even in a bullshit mudpit that Dubya stuck them in.
#2 It has been reported that her son joined the army only after he got in trouble with drugs and vandalism back home.
#3 Hope this helps.
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Can you prove any of this?
Which, part?
1. You already know I have my own business. - Check
2. I made good money last week and spent agood money on stuff. Check
3. You dont work for a living. Having a half ass "research job" at a college where you are not accountable for anything is not a real job. Check.
4. You post nonsense articles from the internet and never post your own views or debate a topic on your own. Check.
5. You live in the basment. Well, at least you used to. i am not familiar with your most recent situation. You got me on that.
You liberal clowns who fell in love with Obama and thought he was going to be good for the economy are in for such a massive rude awakening its not even funny. Its already happened. He spent trillions of dollars and has nothing to show for it other than a quickly approaching 10% UE rate which he said would never happen if we followed his stimulus bill.
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Which, part?
1. You already know I have my own business. - Check
2. I made good money last week and spent agood money on stuff. Check
3. You dont work for a living. Having a half ass "research job" at a college where you are not accountable for anything is not a real job. Check.
4. You post nonsense articles from the internet and never post your own views or debate a topic on your own. Check.
5. You live in the basment. Well, at least you used to. i am not familiar with your most recent situation. You got me on that.
You liberal clowns who fell in love with Obama and thought he was going to be good for the economy are in for such a massive rude awakening its not even funny. Its already happened. He spent trillions of dollars and has nothing to show for it other than a quickly approaching 10% UE rate which he said would never happen if we followed his stimulus bill.
How can I have lived in a basement when the only thing that ever resembled a basement would have been a Wine Cellar that is certainly unlivable.
Why did you make up that I lived in a basement? You really do have a mental problem I think if you are willing to create this whole backstory. Why a basement? Why not something like a tree house or a well? A well would be more mysterious.
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Which, part?
1. You already know I have my own business. - Check
2. I made good money last week and spent agood money on stuff. Check
3. You dont work for a living. Having a half ass "research job" at a college where you are not accountable for anything is not a real job. Check.
4. You post nonsense articles from the internet and never post your own views or debate a topic on your own. Check.
5. You live in the basment. Well, at least you used to. i am not familiar with your most recent situation. You got me on that.
You liberal clowns who fell in love with Obama and thought he was going to be good for the economy are in for such a massive rude awakening its not even funny. Its already happened. He spent trillions of dollars and has nothing to show for it other than a quickly approaching 10% UE rate which he said would never happen if we followed his stimulus bill.
Number 4 is nonsense and you know it. In fact, you post more "articles" than anyone currently on this board.
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2 MORE PAGES AND MY THEORY HOLDS TRUE ABOTU PAILN,,,
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it's safe to assume 338336 owns his own business.thats his 1000th post referring to it.
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You just proved my point, bro.
The media has a monopoly, but it only has a monopoly on the means to project the notion that this is what all of America things. In truth, you truly ARE the minority.
so, just to reiterate
You think a "media monopoly" (which must now include Fox News, The Weekly Standard, CNN, MSNBC and The Huffington Post) is intentionally distorting the news about Palin and that people who are baffled by Palins latest move (like Rove or George Will) along with people that have been critical of her for long time (like Olberman, etc..) are all in league to hide the fact that the majority of American's actually support Palin?
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it's safe to assume 338336 owns his own business.thats his 1000th post referring to it.
Good one. Can I sell it to you? working for someone else seems better than this. ;D
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Whatever Palin has decided, she wins. Media and haters, alike...don't get cocky. You haven't done anything. hahahahaha
She's the real deal and no brutality from the MSM and others who don't like the idea of a woman who is extremely attractive, strong-willed, very smart, hold's strong to her Christian belief, and is pro-life (all while holding public office and doing it well) can take any of these accomplishments away from her.
Truth be known.... you HOPE she's leaving the public stage, because she makes you panic and get short of breath to think someone like this might have favor with a majority of the country. The media has a monopoly, but it only has a monopoly on the means to project the notion that this is what all of America things. In truth, you truly ARE the minority. Ask BayGM and his friends out in California.
Truth. :) It is hysterical how people are frothing at the mouth over Palin. And for what? You'd think she aborted third trimester babies for a living or something. She's a terrific American success story. I'm not convinced resigning was the right thing to do, and I still want to hear her explanation, but I don't think she's going away either.
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Truth. :) It is hysterical how people are frothing at the mouth over Palin. And for what? You'd think she aborted third trimester babies for a living or something. She's a terrific American success story. I'm not convinced resigning was the right thing to do, and I still want to hear her explanation, but I don't think she's going away either.
success story =
1. small town mayor who left her city deeply in debt with a boondoggle construction project
2. VP Candidate helped sink the ticket and contribute to the rout of her party in the last national election
3. First term governor who quits barely halfway through her term
4. Devout Christian who preaches abstinence only while her unwed teenage daughter gets pregnant
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Truth. :) It is hysterical how people are frothing at the mouth over Palin. And for what? You'd think she aborted third trimester babies for a living or something. She's a terrific American success story. I'm not convinced resigning was the right thing to do, and I still want to hear her explanation, but I don't think she's going away either.
She's already explained that it wouldn't be fair to Alaskans to have a lame duck governor.
it's obviously much better for them if she quits and lets the lamer duck Lt. Governor take over.
Don't you believe her?
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success story =
1. small town mayor who left her city deeply in debt with a boondoggle construction project
Actually that project was on time and under budget
http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/background/story/168047.html
Wasilla voters agreed in 2002 to a half-percent increase in the city sales tax to pay off a $14.7 million bond to build the multi-use facility. The project "was completed on schedule and under budget," Mayor Dianne Keller said, and the complex opened its doors March 6, 2004.
2. VP Candidate helped sink the ticket and contribute to the rout of her party in the last national election
There are many people that voted for McCain simply because she was on the ticket. She didn't sink anything.
3. First term governor who quits barely halfway through her term
She was elected as a governor something many people aspire to do.
4. Devout Christian who preaches abstinence only while her unwed teenage daughter gets pregnant
She also preaches against abortion. Her daughters decisions were her own, yet people blame her for them. Weird.
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Like I said in my first post.
She is not going anywhere.
The GOP needs her right now more than she needs them.
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/michael_steele_gop/2009/07/06/232441.html
Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele said this week that he plans to ask Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for her help in the gubernatorial races in New Jersey and Virginia, according to a report by ABC News.
The GOP gubernatorial candidates are Bob McDonnell in Virginia and Chris Christie in New Jersey.
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#1 I have utmost respect for people serving our country. Even in a bullshit mudpit that Dubya stuck them in.
#2 It has been reported that her son joined the army only after he got in trouble with drugs and vandalism back home.
#3 Hope this helps.
So,your angry that he may have had drug problems.First of all if the filthy cocsucker media reported it its a lie as everything else they have reported on her has been PROVEN to be lies.However,if your upset over drug use I hope your as upset that big fat ass Al Gore has a junkie for a son,as does ted kennedy and Bidens daughter is a coke head.The differance is,Palin went into the service,those jerkoff loosers went to rehab on our bill.
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So,your angry that he may have had drug problems.First of all if the filthy cocsucker media reported it its a lie as everything else they have reported on her has been PROVEN to be lies.However,if your upset over drug use I hope your as upset that big fat ass Al Gore has a junkie for a son,as does ted kennedy and Bidens daughter is a coke head.The differance is,Palin went into the service,those jerkoff loosers went to rehab on our bill.
You forgot our own president who admitted cocaine abuse.
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1. she left the city 20 million in debt and whether it came in under budget or not she started building on land she had not yet acquired title to causing an additional 1.3 million in legal fees.
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2008/09/02/gov-sarah-palins-record-on-taxes-and-spending/
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122065537792905483.html
2. perhaps some people voted for McCain because Palin was on the ticket but most likely just as many or more didn't vote for him because she was on the ticket. I'm sure neither of us have the #'s and McCain is to blame for the failure (IMO) including his choice of VP (his 2nd biggest failure after suspending his campaign)
3. Winning the campaign is great but when you bail halfway through and your reasons are criticized by many and questioned by ardent supporters it's not exactly a success story
4. Yes Palin preached against abortion but she also preached abstinence only while her own child was having unprotected sex (at least one time we know for sure)
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1. she left the city 20 million in debt and whether it came in under budget or not she started building on land she had not yet acquired title to causing an additional 1.3 million in legal fees.
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2008/09/02/gov-sarah-palins-record-on-taxes-and-spending/
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122065537792905483.html
2. perhaps some people voted for McCain because Palin was on the ticket but most likely just as many or more didn't vote for him because she was on the ticket. I'm sure neither of us have the #'s and McCain is to blame for the failure (IMO) including his choice of VP (his 2nd biggest failure after suspending his campaign)
3. Winning the campaign is great but when you bail halfway through and your reasons are criticized by many and questioned by ardent supporters it's not exactly a success story
4. Yes Palin preached against abortion but she also preached abstinence only while her own child was having unprotected sex (at least one time we know for sure)
1.She left at debt in Wasilla mainly due the Arena.
Which was one of the main she was elected.
People voted for the tax changes its not like she caused it without peoples consent.
2. I thought she was a good choice for McCain. They came alot closer to the white then most predicted.
There were many republicans that didn't like McCain and she filled that void.
Sure she was polarizing, but so is Obama.
3. Her decision will be judged based on what happens in the future.
4. You don't like abstinence only education. I really couldn't care less.
Her daughter getting pregnant was based on her choices not her moms.
There are may states that teach other forms of sex ed and there are still teen pregnancies with rates much higher than Alaska's.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-01-07-teenbirths_N.htm
The highest teen birth rates are in the South and Southwest; Mississippi is highest with 68.4 per 1,000, followed by New Mexico, with a rate of 64.1 and Texas, with 63.1. The lowest rates are in the Northeast. New Hampshire had the fewest teen births with 18.7 per 1,000. Vermont, with 20.8 per 1,000, and Massachusetts, with 21.3 per 1,000, were also low. Decreases were noted in New York, North Dakota, Rhode Island and the District of Columbia.
Pinning down the reasons that rates have increased so widely isn't easy. Some blame a more sexualized culture and greater acceptance of births to unmarried women. Others say abstinence-only sex education and a possible de-emphasis on birth control may play a part. And just where abortion fits into the puzzle won't be known until late this year or early in 2010, when 2006 abortion data will become available from the New York City-based Guttmacher Institute, a nonprofit that has been tracking abortions since 1974. Government abortion statistics are based on voluntary state reports and do not include every state.
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Truth. :) It is hysterical how people are frothing at the mouth over Palin. And for what? You'd think she aborted third trimester babies for a living or something. She's a terrific American success story. I'm not convinced resigning was the right thing to do, and I still want to hear her explanation, but I don't think she's going away either.
I don't think she's going away either. If I had the power to do so, I would kick Michael Steele out as RNC chairman and let Sarah Palin run the show. Talk about a serious six-pack CASE of a$$-whoopin in Nov. 2010! :o ;D ;D
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it's be funny if another network out-bids FOX news and grabs her.
She's gonna earn $10million+ in the next year. Could come back in 2016 and win the nod, ya never know. 2012 may be too soon.
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Number 4 is nonsense and you know it. In fact, you post more "articles" than anyone currently on this board.
What happened to Jezebelle?
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1.She left at debt in Wasilla mainly due the Arena.
Which was one of the main she was elected.
People voted for the tax changes its not like she caused it without peoples consent.
2. I thought she was a good choice for McCain. They came alot closer to the white then most predicted.
There were many republicans that didn't like McCain and she filled that void.
Sure she was polarizing, but so is Obama.
3. Her decision will be judged based on what happens in the future.
4. You don't like abstinence only education. I really couldn't care less.
Her daughter getting pregnant was based on her choices not her moms.
There are may states that teach other forms of sex ed and there are still teen pregnancies with rates much higher than Alaska's.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-01-07-teenbirths_N.htm
The highest teen birth rates are in the South and Southwest; Mississippi is highest with 68.4 per 1,000, followed by New Mexico, with a rate of 64.1 and Texas, with 63.1. The lowest rates are in the Northeast. New Hampshire had the fewest teen births with 18.7 per 1,000. Vermont, with 20.8 per 1,000, and Massachusetts, with 21.3 per 1,000, were also low. Decreases were noted in New York, North Dakota, Rhode Island and the District of Columbia.
Pinning down the reasons that rates have increased so widely isn't easy. Some blame a more sexualized culture and greater acceptance of births to unmarried women. Others say abstinence-only sex education and a possible de-emphasis on birth control may play a part. And just where abortion fits into the puzzle won't be known until late this year or early in 2010, when 2006 abortion data will become available from the New York City-based Guttmacher Institute, a nonprofit that has been tracking abortions since 1974. Government abortion statistics are based on voluntary state reports and do not include every state.
1. The boondoggle was how she handled the acquisition of the land
2 . Everyone is entitled to monday morning QB the election. Like I said previously I blame McCAin for the failure, starting with his choice of VP
3. I agree - time will tell. It certainly doesn't look good now but I do think her choice was merely for personal financial gain and not in any way for the benefit of the citizens of Alaska
4. I do blame the parent if the parent is not going to teach her own child birth control. If you want to blame the child that is certainly your perogative.
All in all, not exactly a great model of success but then everyone has different standards
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I don't think she's going away either. If I had the power to do so, I would kick Michael Steele out as RNC chairman and let Sarah Palin run the show. Talk about a serious six-pack CASE of a$$-whoopin in Nov. 2010! :o ;D ;D
I agree. :)
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I don't think she is going to step out of the spotlight anytime soon either.
Good for her.
Make your money!
With that being said, will she use her "downtime" to become better educated in world affairs or just continue to play to her loyal supporters?
Sandra
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/opinion/05dowd.html?em
ha ha ha ::)
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Truth. :) It is hysterical how people are frothing at the mouth over Palin. And for what? You'd think she aborted third trimester babies for a living or something. She's a terrific American success story. I'm not convinced resigning was the right thing to do, and I still want to hear her explanation, but I don't think she's going away either.
Bum
hasn't Palin already given a list of explanations?
your question implies you're:
1. not aware of her "word salad" of explanations
2. don't believe her explanations
3. haven't yet heard any of her explanations
which one is it?
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What happened to Jezebelle?
Nothing. She is here with me.
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palin should do fine,,,without alaska,,,
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palin should do fine,,,without alaska,,,
of course she will
all she should have said at her press conference was ..."smell you later"
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[gasp] Maybe she was worried about the "tell all" book?
LEVI VS. SARAH PALIN BATTLE CONTINUES
July 4, 2009 --
THE battle between Levi Johnston (above) and Sarah Palin isn't over yet. Johnston -- best known for impregnating the former vice-presidential candidate's daughter, Bristol -- "is shopping a book," his bodyguard/publicist, Tank, tells New York magazine. And it seems the book will focus on the Wasilla, Alaska, political family. "There are still many untold stories about the Palins," he said. Until the tell-all is released, though, Johnston is considering "a leading role" in a movie and a possible upcoming TV "docu-drama."
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07042009/gossip/pagesix/levi_vs__sarah_palin_battle_continues_177489.htm
As farfetched as it seems, ...that makes more sense to me, ...at least more than an embezzlement investigation.
...unless of course she thinks she only has a narrow window of opportunity to capitalize on her status.
Forgive me for my ignorance, ...but since when does a resignation end an embezzlement or corruption investigation?
I would think it would still go on... would it not? ??? If it comes out after she's resigned, that she embezzled, ...then the media gravy train stops, as do the speaking engagements, and any lucrative book offers. There are laws against profitting from your crimes, ...therefore she would need to make the money BEFORE the poop hit the fan.
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She Broke the G.O.P. and Now She Owns It
By FRANK RICH
SARAH PALIN and Al Sharpton don’t ordinarily have much in common, but they achieved a rare harmonic convergence at Michael Jackson’s memorial service. When Sharpton told the singer’s children it was their daddy’s adversaries, not their daddy, who were “strange,” he was channeling the pugnacious argument the Alaska governor had made the week before. There was nothing strange about her decision to quit in midterm, Palin told America. What’s strange — or “insane,” in her lingo — are the critics who dare question her erratic behavior on the national stage.
Sharpton’s bashing of Jackson’s naysayers received the biggest ovation of the entire show. Palin’s combative resignation soliloquy, though much mocked by prognosticators of all political persuasions, has an equally vociferous and more powerful constituency. In the aftermath of her decision to drop out and cash in, Palin’s standing in the G.O.P. actually rose in the USA Today/Gallup poll. No less than 71 percent of Republicans said they would vote for her for president. That overwhelming majority isn’t just the “base” of the Republican Party that liberals and conservatives alike tend to ghettoize as a rump backwater minority. It is the party, or pretty much what remains of it in the Barack Obama era.
That’s why Palin won’t go gently into the good night, much as some Republicans in Washington might wish. She is not just the party’s biggest star and most charismatic television performer; she is its only star and charismatic performer. Most important, she stands for a genuine movement: a dwindling white nonurban America that is aflame with grievances and awash in self-pity as the country hurtles into the 21st century and leaves it behind. Palin gives this movement a major party brand and political plausibility that its open-throated media auxiliary, exemplified by Glenn Beck, cannot. She loves the spotlight, can raise millions of dollars and has no discernible reason to go fishing now except for self-promotional photo ops.
The essence of Palinism is emotional, not ideological. Yes, she is of the religious right, even if she winks literally and figuratively at her own daughter’s flagrant disregard of abstinence and marriage. But family-values politics, now more devalued than the dollar by the philandering of ostentatiously Christian Republican politicians, can only take her so far. The real wave she’s riding is a loud, resonant surge of resentment and victimization that’s larger than issues like abortion and gay civil rights.
That resentment is in part about race, of course. When Palin referred to Alaska as “a microcosm of America” during the 2008 campaign, it was in defiance of the statistical reality that her state’s tiny black and Hispanic populations are unrepresentative of her nation. She stood for the “real America,” she insisted, and the identity of the unreal America didn’t have to be stated explicitly for audiences to catch her drift. Her convention speech’s signature line was a deftly coded putdown of her presumably shiftless big-city opponent: “I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer, except that you have actual responsibilities.” (Funny how this wisdom has been forgotten by her supporters now that she has abandoned her own actual responsibilities in public office.)
The latest flashpoint for this kind of animus is the near-certain elevation to the Supreme Court of Sonia Sotomayor, whose Senate confirmation hearings arrive this week. Prominent Palinists were fast to demean Sotomayor as a dim-witted affirmative-action baby. Fred Barnes of The Weekly Standard, the Palinist hymnal, labeled Sotomayor “not the smartest” and suggested that Princeton awards academic honors on a curve. Karl Rove said, “I’m not really certain how intellectually strong she would be.” Those maligning the long and accomplished career of an Ivy League-educated judge do believe in affirmative-action — but only for white people like Palin, whom they boosted for vice president despite her minimal achievements and knowledge of policy, the written word or even geography.
The politics of resentment are impervious to facts. Palinists regard their star as an icon of working-class America even though the Palins’ combined reported income ($211,000) puts them in the top 3.6 percent of American households. They see her as a champion of conservative fiscal principles even though she said yes to the Bridge to Nowhere and presided over a state that ranks No.1 in federal pork.
Nowhere is the power of resentment to trump reason more flagrantly illustrated than in the incessant complaint by Palin and her troops that she is victimized by a double standard in the “mainstream media.” In truth, the commentators at ABC, NBC and CNN — often the same ones who judged Michelle Obama a drag on her husband — all tried to outdo each other in praise for Palin when she emerged at the Republican convention 10 months ago. Even now, the so-called mainstream media can grade Palin on a curve: at MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” last week, Palin’s self-proclaimed representation of the “real America” was accepted as a given, as if white rural America actually still was the nation’s baseline.
The Palinists’ bogus beefs about double standards reached farcical proportions at Fox News on the sleepy pre-Fourth Friday afternoon when word of her abdication hit the East. The fill-in anchor demanded that his token Democratic stooge name another female politician who had suffered such “disgraceful attacks” as Palin. When the obvious answer arrived — Hillary Clinton — the Fox host angrily protested that Clinton had never been attacked in “a sexual way” or “about her children.”
Americans have short memories, but it’s hardly ancient history that conservative magazines portrayed Hillary Clinton as both a dominatrix cracking a whip and a broomstick-riding witch. Or that Rush Limbaugh held up a picture of Chelsea Clinton on television to identify the “White House dog.” Or that Palin’s running mate, John McCain, told a sexual joke linking Hillary and Chelsea and Janet Reno. Yet the same conservative commentariat that vilified both Clintons 24/7 now whines that Palin is receiving “the kind of mauling” that the media “always reserve for conservative Republicans.” So said The Wall Street Journal editorial page last week. You’d never guess that The Journal had published six innuendo-laden books on real and imagined Clinton scandals, or that the Clintons had been a leading target of both Letterman and Leno monologues, not to mention many liberal editorial pages (including that of The Times), for much of a decade.
Those Republicans who have not drunk the Palin Kool-Aid are apocalyptic for good reason. She could well be their last presidential candidate standing. Such would-be competitors as Mark Sanford, John Ensign and Newt Gingrich are too carnally compromised for the un-Clinton party. Mike Huckabee is Palin-lite. Tim Pawlenty, Bobby Jindal — really? That leaves the charisma-challenged Mitt Romney, precisely the kind of card-carrying Ivy League elitist Palinists loathe, no matter how hard he tries to cosmetically alter his history as a socially liberal fat-cat banker. Palin would crush him like a bug. She has the Teflon-coated stature among Republicans that Romney can only fantasize about.
Were Palin actually to secure the 2012 nomination, the result would be a fiasco for the G.O.P. akin to Goldwater 1964, as the most relentless conservative Palin critic, David Frum, has predicted. Or would it? No one thought Richard Nixon — a far less personable commodity than Palin — would come back either after his sour-grapes “last press conference” of 1962. But Democratic divisions and failures gave him his opportunity in 1968. With unemployment approaching 10 percent and a seemingly bottomless war in Afghanistan, you never know, as Palin likes to say, what doors might open.
It’s more likely that she will never get anywhere near the White House, and not just because of her own limitations. The Palinist “real America” is demographically doomed to keep shrinking. But the emotion it represents is disproportionately powerful for its numbers. It’s an anger that Palin enjoyed stoking during her “palling around with terrorists” crusade against Obama on the campaign trail. It’s an anger that’s curdled into self-martyrdom since Inauguration Day.
Its voice can be found in the postings at a Web site maintained by the fans of Mark Levin, the Obama hater who is, at this writing, the No.2 best-selling hardcover nonfiction writer in America. (Glenn Beck is No.1 in paperback nonfiction.) Politico surveyed them last week. “Bottomline, do you know of any way we can remove these idiots before this country goes down the crapper?” wrote one Levin fan. “I WILL HELP!!! Should I buy a gun?” Another called for a new American revolution, promising “there will be blood.”
These are the cries of a constituency that feels disenfranchised — by the powerful and the well-educated who gamed the housing bubble, by a news media it keeps being told is hateful, by the immigrants who have taken some of their jobs, by the African-American who has ended a white monopoly on the White House. Palin is their born avatar. She puts a happy, sexy face on ugly emotions, and she can solidify her followers’ hold on a G.O.P. that has no leaders with the guts or alternative vision to stand up to them or to her.
For a week now, critics in both parties have had a blast railing at Palin. It’s good sport. But just as the media muttering about those unseemly “controversies” rallied the fans of the King of Pop, so are Palin’s political obituaries likely to jump-start her lucrative afterlife.
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Republican pundits open fire on Sarah Palin
Their harsh views conflict with those of grass-roots GOP voters, revealing a serious split within the party.
By Mark Z. Barabak
July 13, 2009
Since announcing her resignation, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has been pummeled by critics who have called her incoherent, a quitter, a joke and a "political train wreck."
And those were fellow Republicans talking.
Palin has been a polarizing figure from the moment she stepped off the tundra into the bright lights last summer as John McCain's surprise vice presidential running mate. Some of that hostility could be expected, given the hyper-partisanship of today's politics.
What is remarkable is the contempt Palin has engendered within her own party and the fact that so many of her GOP detractors are willing, even eager, to express it publicly -- even with Palin an early front-runner for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.
Some admit their preference that she stay in Alaska and forget about any national ambitions.
"I am of the strong opinion that, at present day, she is not ready to be the leading voice of the GOP," said Todd Harris, a party strategist who likened Palin to the hopelessly dated "Miami Vice" -- something once cool that people regard years later with puzzlement and laughter. "It's not even that she hasn't paid her dues. I personally don't think she's ready to be commander in chief."
Others suggest a delayed response to last year's shaky campaign performance, now that the race is over and Republicans feel free to speak their minds.
"I can't tell you one thing she brought to the ticket," said Stuart K. Spencer, who has been advising GOP candidates for more than 40 years. "McCain wanted to shock and surprise people, and he did -- in a bad way."
It is more than cruel sport, this picking apart of Alaska's departing chief executive. The sniping reflects a serious split within the Republican Party between its professional ranks and some of its most ardent followers, which threatens not only to undermine Palin's White House ambitions -- if, indeed, she harbors them -- but to complicate the party's search for a way back to power in Washington.
Consider a USA Today/Gallup poll released last week. About 7 in 10 Republicans said they would be likely to vote for Palin if she ran for president. Other surveys place Palin in a statistical dead heat with Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee, the former governors of Massachusetts and Arkansas, respectively, who sought the White House in 2008 and give every indication that they will try again in 2012.
Although any presidential poll taken this far out has to be taken with a sea's worth of salt, that is not the reason so many Republican strategists and party insiders dismiss Palin.
"People at the grass roots see a charismatic personality who is popular with other people at the grass roots. But their horizon only goes so far as people who think like them," said Mike Murphy. The veteran GOP ad man eviscerated Palin -- a "political train wreck," "an awful choice" for vice president, her resignation an "astonishing self-immolation" -- in a column published Thursday in the New York Daily News.
"Professional operatives keep their eye on a broader horizon and understand, without independents and swing voters, she can't win," Murphy said. "She's a stone-cold loser in a general election."
That, of course, is debatable and subject to any number of developments over the next few years. A Palin spokeswoman did not respond to requests for comment.
In an interview Sunday in the Washington Times, Palin said she planned to write a book and campaign for candidates nationwide, regardless of party affiliation, who shared her views on limited government, national defense and energy independence.
But the reaction to her resignation from Republican candidates around the country has been telling. Asked if they planned to invite Palin to visit and campaign on their behalf, several of those facing tough races -- the ones who need to do more than turn out the party faithful or collect their contributions -- were not rushing out the welcome mat.
"I don't generally need people from outside my district to do a fundraiser," Rep. Frank R. Wolf, a Republican from the Democratic-leaning suburbs of northern Virginia, told the Hill newspaper.
"There's others that I would have come in and campaign, and most of them would be my colleagues in the House," Rep. Lee Terry (R-Neb.) said in the same piece.
Whatever one thinks of Palin, there is no question she has been subjected to a level of internal sniping -- friendly fire seems like a misnomer -- that is extraordinary.
The Republican criticism of Palin, 45, began during McCain's presidential run, privately at first, then breaking into the open during the last troubled days of the Arizona senator's campaign. Finger-pointing and back-stabbing are hardly unusual in politics, especially on the losing side. But like so many things Palin-related -- the crowds, the adoration, the antipathy -- the verbal strafing seems of a whole other magnitude. (How many other losing vice presidential candidates would merit a 10,000-word exegesis in Vanity Fair, which depicted Alaska's governor as a narcissistic, one-woman demolition derby?)
Some blame sexism, though again there is sharp disagreement between Palin's supporters and detractors. Some think the former beauty queen has always been hurt by her looks, whereas others think her appearance has helped her considerably. "If Sarah Palin looked like Golda Meir, would we even be talking about her today?" Murphy asked.
Others see a knee-jerk reaction from the political establishment, which will always frown on any populist outsider (think Ross Perot, Pat Buchanan, Howard Dean), much less a governor who quits midterm and shows up on TV in hip waders.
"The fact that she is a woman who's extremely attractive and dynamic and charismatic throws them for a loop," said Bay Buchanan, who strategized for her brother's two insurgent presidential campaigns. "Once they sense the first little sign of weakness, that's when they go in for the kill."
No one knows where the future will take Palin, not even the governor herself. Her reemergence on the national scene and the scathing response from so many of her party peers underscore one thing, however: Republicans may hold dear their memories of the late Ronald Reagan. But his famous 11th commandment -- "Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican" -- was laid to rest a long time ago.
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Republican pundits open fire on Sarah Palin
Their harsh views conflict with those of grass-roots GOP voters, revealing a serious split within the party.
By Mark Z. Barabak
July 13, 2009
Since announcing her resignation, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has been pummeled by critics who have called her incoherent, a quitter, a joke and a "political train wreck."
And those were fellow Republicans talking.
Palin has been a polarizing figure from the moment she stepped off the tundra into the bright lights last summer as John McCain's surprise vice presidential running mate. Some of that hostility could be expected, given the hyper-partisanship of today's politics.
What is remarkable is the contempt Palin has engendered within her own party and the fact that so many of her GOP detractors are willing, even eager, to express it publicly -- even with Palin an early front-runner for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.
Some admit their preference that she stay in Alaska and forget about any national ambitions.
"I am of the strong opinion that, at present day, she is not ready to be the leading voice of the GOP," said Todd Harris, a party strategist who likened Palin to the hopelessly dated "Miami Vice" -- something once cool that people regard years later with puzzlement and laughter. "It's not even that she hasn't paid her dues. I personally don't think she's ready to be commander in chief."
Others suggest a delayed response to last year's shaky campaign performance, now that the race is over and Republicans feel free to speak their minds.
"I can't tell you one thing she brought to the ticket," said Stuart K. Spencer, who has been advising GOP candidates for more than 40 years. "McCain wanted to shock and surprise people, and he did -- in a bad way."
It is more than cruel sport, this picking apart of Alaska's departing chief executive. The sniping reflects a serious split within the Republican Party between its professional ranks and some of its most ardent followers, which threatens not only to undermine Palin's White House ambitions -- if, indeed, she harbors them -- but to complicate the party's search for a way back to power in Washington.
Consider a USA Today/Gallup poll released last week. About 7 in 10 Republicans said they would be likely to vote for Palin if she ran for president. Other surveys place Palin in a statistical dead heat with Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee, the former governors of Massachusetts and Arkansas, respectively, who sought the White House in 2008 and give every indication that they will try again in 2012.
Although any presidential poll taken this far out has to be taken with a sea's worth of salt, that is not the reason so many Republican strategists and party insiders dismiss Palin.
"People at the grass roots see a charismatic personality who is popular with other people at the grass roots. But their horizon only goes so far as people who think like them," said Mike Murphy. The veteran GOP ad man eviscerated Palin -- a "political train wreck," "an awful choice" for vice president, her resignation an "astonishing self-immolation" -- in a column published Thursday in the New York Daily News.
"Professional operatives keep their eye on a broader horizon and understand, without independents and swing voters, she can't win," Murphy said. "She's a stone-cold loser in a general election."
That, of course, is debatable and subject to any number of developments over the next few years. A Palin spokeswoman did not respond to requests for comment.
In an interview Sunday in the Washington Times, Palin said she planned to write a book and campaign for candidates nationwide, regardless of party affiliation, who shared her views on limited government, national defense and energy independence.
But the reaction to her resignation from Republican candidates around the country has been telling. Asked if they planned to invite Palin to visit and campaign on their behalf, several of those facing tough races -- the ones who need to do more than turn out the party faithful or collect their contributions -- were not rushing out the welcome mat.
"I don't generally need people from outside my district to do a fundraiser," Rep. Frank R. Wolf, a Republican from the Democratic-leaning suburbs of northern Virginia, told the Hill newspaper.
"There's others that I would have come in and campaign, and most of them would be my colleagues in the House," Rep. Lee Terry (R-Neb.) said in the same piece.
Whatever one thinks of Palin, there is no question she has been subjected to a level of internal sniping -- friendly fire seems like a misnomer -- that is extraordinary.
The Republican criticism of Palin, 45, began during McCain's presidential run, privately at first, then breaking into the open during the last troubled days of the Arizona senator's campaign. Finger-pointing and back-stabbing are hardly unusual in politics, especially on the losing side. But like so many things Palin-related -- the crowds, the adoration, the antipathy -- the verbal strafing seems of a whole other magnitude. (How many other losing vice presidential candidates would merit a 10,000-word exegesis in Vanity Fair, which depicted Alaska's governor as a narcissistic, one-woman demolition derby?)
Some blame sexism, though again there is sharp disagreement between Palin's supporters and detractors. Some think the former beauty queen has always been hurt by her looks, whereas others think her appearance has helped her considerably. "If Sarah Palin looked like Golda Meir, would we even be talking about her today?" Murphy asked.
Others see a knee-jerk reaction from the political establishment, which will always frown on any populist outsider (think Ross Perot, Pat Buchanan, Howard Dean), much less a governor who quits midterm and shows up on TV in hip waders.
"The fact that she is a woman who's extremely attractive and dynamic and charismatic throws them for a loop," said Bay Buchanan, who strategized for her brother's two insurgent presidential campaigns. "Once they sense the first little sign of weakness, that's when they go in for the kill."
No one knows where the future will take Palin, not even the governor herself. Her reemergence on the national scene and the scathing response from so many of her party peers underscore one thing, however: Republicans may hold dear their memories of the late Ronald Reagan. But his famous 11th commandment -- "Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican" -- was laid to rest a long time ago.
But she's so hot ! ::)