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Title: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 03, 2009, 01:36:10 PM
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Dos Equis on July 03, 2009, 01:39:33 PM
What the heck??  He is out of his cotton pickin mind.   >:( 
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: a_joker10 on July 03, 2009, 01:52:16 PM
I am not getting any stupid flu shot.

What ever happened to being able to be sick for a couple of days.

I am no robot.
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 03, 2009, 01:52:33 PM
zero way Obama wins the next election.  Listening to Thom Hartmann mention the other day that he's hearing a lot of people on the left say they're not even going to vote.  That'll equate to dems losing big if they keep this kind of shit up.  He really isn't following through with anything related to change and I keep seeing stuff like this that just pisses me off even more.  I'll probably just vote 3rd party no matter what if this crap keeps happening.
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: headhuntersix on July 03, 2009, 02:39:23 PM
I don't even get the flu shot the army makes me take. Fuck him.
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: GigantorX on July 03, 2009, 02:47:38 PM
zero way Obama wins the next election.  Listening to Thom Hartmann mention the other day that he's hearing a lot of people on the left say they're not even going to vote.  That'll equate to dems losing big if they keep this kind of shit up.  He really isn't following through with anything related to change and I keep seeing stuff like this that just pisses me off even more.  I'll probably just vote 3rd party no matter what if this crap keeps happening.

Good analysis and I agree. Obama is keeping ZERO of his promises and turned out ,shockingly, that he wasn't even close to the person he ran as during the campaign, again I know, shocking. He said anything to get elected and now it isn't looking so hopeful. He is far left and is showing some Marxist tendencies and a hatred of the free-market and private sector.

He is toast.
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: headhuntersix on July 03, 2009, 02:50:05 PM
My hope is that if and when the Repubs can take back the Congress or atleast the Senate, that will hasten the MSM attacks and shine the light on Obama. All of sudden the MSM will begin to do their job. It will all come crashing down on Barry. I'd love it if the Dems had to nominate somebody else....never happen but there is sooo much with this guy, that never gets mentioned.
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Mons Venus on July 03, 2009, 03:15:38 PM
What the heck??  He is out of his cotton pickin mind.   >:( 

Oh please who said mandatory flu shots? ::)
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Dos Equis on July 03, 2009, 03:26:00 PM
Oh please who said mandatory flu shots? ::)

Did you listen to the clip? 

And stop being a troll.  Don't repost stuff that has been deleted.  If you have a crush on HH6, send him a PM. 
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Mons Venus on July 03, 2009, 03:28:00 PM
Did you listen to the clip? 

And stop being a troll.  Don't repost stuff that has been deleted.  If you have a crush on HH6, send him a PM. 


Mandatory was NEVER mentioned! Mandatory shit is 4 Socialist's= HH6

Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Kazan on July 03, 2009, 03:33:05 PM
Maybe this will do the job

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Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Dos Equis on July 03, 2009, 03:40:19 PM

Mandatory was NEVER mentioned! Mandatory shit is 4 Socialist's= HH6



Yes it was.  She said "required" within the first minute.  She isn't the only person who thinks this is possible:

This Fall: Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccines?
In a recent article on the unfolding economic collapse, Rep. Ron Paul warns that the hysterically hyped H1N1 flu “pandemic” may result in the government requiring mandatory flu vaccinations. “Nearly $8 billion will be spent to address a ‘potential pandemic flu’ which could result in mandatory vaccinations for no discernible reason other than to enrich the pharmaceutical companies that make the vaccine,” writes Paul.
. . . .

http://www.thecitizen.com/~citizen0/node/37660
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Dos Equis on July 03, 2009, 03:40:42 PM
Maybe this will do the job

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Hahahaha!  I've used that one.   ;D
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Mons Venus on July 03, 2009, 03:45:02 PM
Yes it was.  She said "required" within the first minute.  She isn't the only person who thinks this is possible:


Mandatory and Required R NOT THE SAME! Gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz z
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: headhuntersix on July 03, 2009, 03:45:41 PM
Gee thanks Beach... >:(...I'm pretty sure he's gay. Its even more scary as I've never posted a pic. I received this. Since he listens to u, have him jump off a bridge next please.


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Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: headhuntersix on July 03, 2009, 03:46:19 PM
Mandatory and Required R NOT THE SAME! Gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz z

What exactly does required mean to u.....maybe this is why they bounced u from the Service.
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: GigantorX on July 03, 2009, 03:50:50 PM
What exactly does required mean to u.....maybe this is why they bounced u from the Service.

Stop feeding the troll.
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Kazan on July 03, 2009, 03:51:03 PM
Mandatory and Required R NOT THE SAME! Gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz z

Please enlighten me on the difference.
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Mons Venus on July 03, 2009, 03:52:21 PM
What exactly does required mean to u.....maybe this is why they bounced u from the Service.

"Required" is similar to childhood vaccines, they can be avoided for numerous reasons (personal beliefs, religion etc.)
"Mandatory" is FORCED upon a person. (Military vaccines 4 deployment etc.)

Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 03, 2009, 03:57:58 PM
"Required" is similar to childhood vaccines, they can be avoided for numerous reasons (personal beliefs, religion etc.)
"Mandatory" is FORCED upon a person. (Military vaccines 4 deployment etc.)


great, so I have to join some Christian Snake Cult to avoid getting 3 flu shots... I feel so much better about it all now ::)
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Mons Venus on July 03, 2009, 03:59:48 PM
great, so I have to join some Christian Snake Cult to avoid getting 3 flu shots... I feel so much better about it all now ::)

Nice spin Hugo!
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Dos Equis on July 03, 2009, 04:06:14 PM
Gee thanks Beach... >:(...I'm pretty sure he's gay. Its even more scary as I've never posted a pic. I received this. Since he listens to u, have him jump off a bridge next please.


HH6 = Receives Free Socialized Healthcare

HH6 = Receives Free Socialized College

HH6 = Receives Free Socialized Pension

HH6 = Receives Free Socialized Housing

HH6 = Receives Free Socialized MRE's/Dogfood

HH6 = If it's Free= it's 4 me!              

HH6 = Fuucck everyone else!



 ;D  Sorry dude. 
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Dos Equis on July 03, 2009, 04:08:01 PM
"Required" is similar to childhood vaccines, they can be avoided for numerous reasons (personal beliefs, religion etc.)
"Mandatory" is FORCED upon a person. (Military vaccines 4 deployment etc.)



What?  They mean the same.  They are "required," with some exceptions.  They are "mandatory," with some exceptions. 
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Mons Venus on July 03, 2009, 04:18:27 PM
What?  They mean the same.  They are "required," with some exceptions.  They are "mandatory," with some exceptions. 

In the Military I received "MANDATORY" vaccines before deployment. (no shots= no deploy) Conversely, my children have never received "REQUIRED" childhood vaccines.

Big difference.   
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Dos Equis on July 03, 2009, 04:32:57 PM
In the Military I received "MANDATORY" vaccines before deployment. (no shots= no deploy) Conversely, my children have never received "REQUIRED" childhood vaccines.

Big difference.   

Here is the definition of "requirement" from Webster's:  "that which is required; a thing demanded or obligatory."

Definition of "mandatory" from Webster's:  "authoritatively ordered; obligatory, compulsory." 

Same thing.     
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: headhuntersix on July 03, 2009, 04:43:00 PM
In the Military I received "MANDATORY" vaccines before deployment. (no shots= no deploy) Conversely, my children have never received "REQUIRED" childhood vaccines.

Big difference.   

Which was???
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on July 03, 2009, 05:00:00 PM
Yes it was.  She said "required" within the first minute.  She isn't the only person who thinks this is possible:

This Fall: Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccines?
In a recent article on the unfolding economic collapse, Rep. Ron Paul warns that the hysterically hyped H1N1 flu “pandemic” may result in the government requiring mandatory flu vaccinations. “Nearly $8 billion will be spent to address a ‘potential pandemic flu’ which could result in mandatory vaccinations for no discernible reason other than to enrich the pharmaceutical companies that make the vaccine,” writes Paul.
. . . .

http://www.thecitizen.com/~citizen0/node/37660

Ron Paul rules
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 03, 2009, 06:00:49 PM
Nice spin Hugo!
spun with your spin ;)
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: 24KT on July 03, 2009, 07:32:46 PM
I don't even get the flu shot the army makes me take. Fuck him.

Why not HH6? ...especially since according to you all those shots given to military personnel are safe?  ???
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Kazan on July 03, 2009, 07:54:07 PM
Why not HH6? ...especially since according to you all those shots given to military personnel are safe?  ???

Because in America if you don't want a fucking flu shot you don't have to get one
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Straw Man on July 03, 2009, 09:31:53 PM
this entire story is nonsense

obama isn't/can't make "all" people or even most of the US do anything

let's just pretend your worst nightmares were true

how many $'s can he spend on compliance?

if you're so inclined you should spend your time worrying about asteroids or maybe cancer or something real



Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: The True Adonis on July 04, 2009, 04:14:31 AM
Here is the definition of "requirement" from Webster's:  "that which is required; a thing demanded or obligatory."

Definition of "mandatory" from Webster's:  "authoritatively ordered; obligatory, compulsory." 

Same thing.     
Dictionaries are not the end all nor are they absolute.  Take it from Pinker as he sits on the board for the American Heritage Dictionary.

Steven Pinker (Guest Speaker)
I think dictionaries should inform the user what people's expectations are, and let them use their judgment. That is, flag a meaning or usage when it is generally considered uncouth or incorrect, or considered incorrect only by a few remaining pedants, and so on. After all, a dictionary should provide information, not be a policeman. The "usage notes" in the American Heritage Dictionary are a good model -- for a careful writer and speaker, they provide information on how others are likely to react to a usage, and you can do what you want with that information.


And a video of Pinker stating that Dictionaries are not the end all or the absolute:  http://fora.tv/2008/09/12/Steven_Pinker_The_Stuff_of_Thought#chapter_09


Also, Thomas Jefferson thought that dictionaries were quite annoying and that every citizen should create their own words and meanings as they see fit.
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Dos Equis on July 04, 2009, 05:05:27 PM
Dictionaries are not the end all nor are they absolute.  Take it from Pinker as he sits on the board for the American Heritage Dictionary.

Steven Pinker (Guest Speaker)
I think dictionaries should inform the user what people's expectations are, and let them use their judgment. That is, flag a meaning or usage when it is generally considered uncouth or incorrect, or considered incorrect only by a few remaining pedants, and so on. After all, a dictionary should provide information, not be a policeman. The "usage notes" in the American Heritage Dictionary are a good model -- for a careful writer and speaker, they provide information on how others are likely to react to a usage, and you can do what you want with that information.


And a video of Pinker stating that Dictionaries are not the end all or the absolute:  http://fora.tv/2008/09/12/Steven_Pinker_The_Stuff_of_Thought#chapter_09


Also, Thomas Jefferson thought that dictionaries were quite annoying and that every citizen should create their own words and meanings as they see fit.

Okay.  And?  There are denotative and connotative meanings.  However you look at it, "required" and "mandatory" mean the same thing. 
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: SAMSON123 on July 04, 2009, 06:41:14 PM
Mandatory and Required R NOT THE SAME! Gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz z

YEAH... they are spelled differently but the end result is the same...
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: 2ND COMING on July 04, 2009, 07:27:28 PM
Because in America if you don't want a fucking flu shot you don't have to get one

ill have a beer with this gimmick any day
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Al Doggity on July 04, 2009, 11:06:46 PM
Judging from the date of OP's  youtube video,this http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/05/AR2009050503378.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/05/AR2009050503378.html) is the article to which Meridith Viera is referring. If you read it, you see that there is no mention of a mandatory vaccine. It appears that Meridith, or whoever wrote that story, misunderstood their source material. The item was meant to highlight the fact that the government was recommending more than one vaccine, not that the vaccine was mandatory. Regardless of the differences between "mandatory" and "required", neither of those terms will apply to the swine flu vaccination campaign of the fall.
Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Mons Venus on July 05, 2009, 05:54:54 AM
Judging from the date of OP's  youtube video,this http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/05/AR2009050503378.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/05/AR2009050503378.html) is the article to which Meridith Viera is referring. If you read it, you see that there is no mention of a mandatory vaccine.  It appears that Meridith, or whoever wrote that story, misunderstood their source material. The item was meant to highlight the fact that the government was recommending more than one vaccine, not that the vaccine was mandatory. Regardless of the differences between "mandatory" and "required", neither of those terms will apply to the swine flu vaccination campaign of the fall.

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Title: Re: Obama considering requiring every American to get 3 flu shots.
Post by: Hugo Chavez on July 05, 2009, 06:11:31 AM
Judging from the date of OP's  youtube video,this http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/05/AR2009050503378.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/05/AR2009050503378.html) is the article to which Meridith Viera is referring. If you read it, you see that there is no mention of a mandatory vaccine. It appears that Meridith, or whoever wrote that story, misunderstood their source material. The item was meant to highlight the fact that the government was recommending more than one vaccine, not that the vaccine was mandatory. Regardless of the differences between "mandatory" and "required", neither of those terms will apply to the swine flu vaccination campaign of the fall.
That figures.  And she called it unprecedented too.  Someone is being a dramaqueen for ratings.  Maybe's she's been watching Glenn Beck.