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Title: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Dos Equis on July 04, 2009, 12:37:07 PM
Liberal:  Juan Williams
Conservative: Charles Krauthammer (replacing Bob Novak)

Was watching both the other day on the same Fox show and realized how much I enjoy listening to both.  Very intelligent men, well read, well spoken, great temperament.

Yours?  
Title: Re: My favorite
Post by: 240 is Back on July 04, 2009, 12:39:54 PM
I'd like to hear ex-governor Palin and Ginger Spice debating whose sudden quitting had more impact upon pop society.


Title: Re: My favorite
Post by: Purge_WTF on July 04, 2009, 12:40:33 PM
I'd like to hear ex-governor Palin and Ginger Spice debating whose sudden quitting had more impact upon pop society.




  LOL. Good one, Rob. Tough call, too.
Title: Re: My favorite
Post by: Dos Equis on July 04, 2009, 12:46:41 PM
Also been watching a bit of Huckabee's show and saw him as a guest on another show.  Really starting to like him. 
Title: Re: My favorite
Post by: 240 is Back on July 04, 2009, 12:49:15 PM
huck is very likable.  He won iowa in 2008, if i recall correctly.  had a ton of early support.  then he started sucking up to mitt in hopes of being his veep candidate.

huck could get my vote.
Title: Re: My favorite
Post by: Dos Equis on October 21, 2010, 05:42:44 PM
Juan Williams is still my favorite liberal. 
Title: Re: My favorite
Post by: tonymctones on October 21, 2010, 05:49:30 PM
Juan Williams is still my favorite liberal. 
this is what he gets for being honest and saying things that most ppl would agree with... :-[

this country has let political correctness run amok
Title: Re: My favorite
Post by: Dos Equis on October 21, 2010, 05:55:30 PM
this is what he gets for being honest and saying things that most ppl would agree with... :-[

this country has let political correctness run amok

Yep.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Dos Equis on March 28, 2013, 01:50:17 PM
"What's amazing here, I think, is how small Cyprus is and how relatively small the problem is. The bailout total, that you mentioned, is about a quarter of Apple's cash-on-hand. I mean, this is one country that Apple could purchase. It could own the island and call it, you know, iCyprus, or something. And have all this cash left over."

-- Charles Krauthammer on “Special Report With Bret Baier.”


Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Straw Man on March 28, 2013, 02:48:35 PM
Liberal:  Juan Williams
Conservative: Charles Krauthammer (replacing Bob Novak)

Was watching both the other day on the same Fox show and realized how much I enjoy listening to both.  Very intelligent men, well read, well spoken, great temperament.

Yours?  

since when is Juan Williams considered a liberal?

He's a token moderate (sometimes not so moderate) conservative
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Purge_WTF on March 29, 2013, 07:30:46 AM
Favorite Conservative (and my mentor): Pat Buchanan

Favorite Lib-uh-reel: Stephanie Miller, if I have to pick one.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: polychronopolous on March 29, 2013, 08:06:20 AM


Favorite Lib-uh-reel: Stephanie Miller, if I have to pick one.

I can't stand that bitch.

Her radio show is one giant yuck fest with terrible sound effects and people in the studio fighting to laugh over each other after non stop dumb jokes bashing republicans.

And as far as Huckabee goes...his political career is over. The same socially conservative platform he stood on for years will only hurt him going forward. Maybe he can run for congress in some Podunk district but on a national level? Forget about it.

It's like all these right wingers(and some democrats) who are suddenly "evolving" on issues like gay marriage... No, you are basically sending all your principles down the river in an attempt to save your job. Let's call it for what it really is.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2013, 04:36:29 PM
Favorite Conservative (and my mentor): Pat Buchanan

Favorite Lib-uh-reel: Stephanie Miller, if I have to pick one.

Don't really know anything about her.  Just listened to a clip and she sounded ok.

Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Dos Equis on October 23, 2013, 12:59:28 PM
Krauthammer Details Life of Political Writing in New Book
Wednesday, 23 Oct 2013
By Wanda Carruthers

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inShare inShare0 Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer says he left medicine to pursue a life of political writing because it's the one enterprise "on which everything else depends."

"It's not the way of life, the enterprise with the most dignity, as we've seen over the last few weeks, it's the one on which everything else depends," Krauthammer, a Pulitzer Prize winner and syndicated columnist, said on "Fox & Friends" Wednesday.

"If you get your politics wrong, all the things that matter, all the things of elegance and beauty can disappear. That's why I devoted my life to being involved in the political debate," he added.

Krauthammer details his life of political writing in a new book that's a compendium of his columns titled, "Things That Matter: Three Decades of Passions, Pastimes and Politics."

Krauthammer gave up a career in medicine in his late 20s because he decided,"This is not exactly what I was cut out to be."

His writing career began at the left-leaning New Republic magazine. But Krauthammer said he embraced conservatism when he saw the results of liberal policies.

"I was a great society liberal. I believed in the war on poverty, and all that. So, in the '80s and into the '90s, the empirical statistical evidence of the effects of the war on poverty on the poor began to come out.

"And, it turned out not only was the money wasted, the money and the new programs had developed dependency, and immiserated the lives of those it was supposed to help," he explained.

"I've come to the conclusion that it's limited government, which is the conservative idea. So, it wasn't that I woke up in the morning one day and I had an epiphany. We tried, I think, in good will. That was liberal idea. It turned out it didn't work."

A continuing theme throughout his career, Krauthammer continued, has been an "abhorrence of the extremes." He offered as example Democratic Florida Rep. Alan Grayson's distribution this week of fundraising likening the tea party to the Ku Klux Klan, complete with the image of a flaming cross.

"The one thing that has always been the center of my political thinking, and it goes back to when I was 19 and editor of my college paper, is an abhorrence of the extremes. Grayson is a classic example of the extremes," he said.

Krauthammer said at first he was worried about writing a weekly column but was surprised to discover how easy it is most of the time to come up with good material.

"At the beginning I used to worry, 'How am I going to get a column each week?' But, it would turn out that by Wednesday, which is when I write, somebody would do something exceedingly stupid. And, I had my subject," he said.

http://www.newsmax.com/US/krauthammer-political-writing-book/2013/10/23/id/532686#ixzz2iZl05kSy
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: AbrahamG on October 28, 2013, 01:37:20 AM
Juan Williams a liberal.  LMFAO.  He's an uncle Juan.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 28, 2013, 04:22:36 AM
Liberal:  Juan Williams
Conservative: Charles Krauthammer (replacing Bob Novak)

Krauthammer isn't what I consider a conservative, he's an idiotic neo-conservative.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 28, 2013, 04:24:55 AM
Favorite Conservative: Ben Swann

http://www.benswann.com
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: whork on October 28, 2013, 07:00:00 AM
Liberal:  Juan Williams
Conservative: Charles Krauthammer (replacing Bob Novak)

Was watching both the other day on the same Fox show and realized how much I enjoy listening to both.  Very intelligent men, well read, well spoken, great temperament.

Yours?  


Is Krauthammer your favorite because he is always wrong like you ???



But at least he learns. Unlike you he blames the tea party for the shutdown:


http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-october-22-2013/extreme-takeover--tea-party-edition
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Archer77 on October 28, 2013, 07:02:05 AM
Would Juan Williams be considered a Liberal? 
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Option D on October 28, 2013, 07:31:43 AM
Would Juan Williams be considered a Liberal? 

no...
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: 240 is Back on October 28, 2013, 07:37:16 AM
Krauthammer isn't what I consider a conservative, he's an idiotic neo-conservative.


still, krauthammer is honest when he talks about current events.  he blamed far-right tea partiers for the shutdown.  he leans right hard... but he's honest about that.

people who are still saying "nothing is the tea partys fault, it's all obama's fault" are blind and not fair.  Krauthammer admitted it, I gave him props for that.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 28, 2013, 08:33:06 AM
no...

Lmfao.   Anyone to the right of Stalin or pol pot is a conservative to you leftist clowns.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Option D on October 28, 2013, 08:48:10 AM
Lmfao.   Anyone to the right of Stalin or pol pot is a conservative to you leftist clowns.
OH OK.. ::)
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2013, 12:04:43 PM
Krauthammer isn't what I consider a conservative, he's an idiotic neo-conservative.

LOL!
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2013, 12:05:25 PM

Is Krauthammer your favorite because he is always wrong like you ???



But at least he learns. Unlike you he blames the tea party for the shutdown:


http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-october-22-2013/extreme-takeover--tea-party-edition

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3_qnYrPmEVY/TbCcNmORe7I/AAAAAAAAAP0/Knag9chpp7s/s1600/Please-don-t-feed-the-trolls-atsof-547660_170_186.jpg)
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2013, 12:05:42 PM
Would Juan Williams be considered a Liberal? 

Yes.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: AbrahamG on October 28, 2013, 04:43:10 PM
Here is a quick lesson on liberals for the retarded among us.

Bernie Sanders = LIBERAL

Juan Williams = NOT
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2013, 04:51:28 PM
An even better (and more accurate lesson):  anyone to the right of Jimmy Carter = conservative.  At least for a liberal. 
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: AbrahamG on October 28, 2013, 04:52:57 PM
An even better (and more accurate lesson):  anyone to the right of Jimmy Carter = conservative.  At least for a liberal. 

Present day Jimmy Carter is a liberal.  The Jimmy Carter of 1976-1981 may have been left of center, but not by much.

Bill Clinton = Best Republican President we've ever had.

Barack Obama = Giving Clinton a run for his money.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2013, 04:55:17 PM
Present day Jimmy Carter is a liberal.  The Jimmy Carter of 1976-1981 may have been left of center, but not by much.

Bill Clinton = Best Republican President we've ever had.

Barack Obama = Giving Clinton a run for his money.

Cannot add anything to that.  That about sums up the mindset of a liberal.  lol   :)
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Skip8282 on October 28, 2013, 06:40:50 PM
Cannot add anything to that.  That about sums up the mindset of a liberal.  lol   :)


lol...yep, talk about making your argument for ya, haha.

Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 29, 2013, 06:23:25 AM
Here is a quick lesson on liberals for the retarded among us.

Bernie Sanders = LIBERAL

Juan Williams = NOT

Bernie is a socialist
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: AbrahamG on October 29, 2013, 03:34:19 PM
Bernie is a socialist

Democratic Socialist, aka Liberal.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: RRKore on October 29, 2013, 04:10:37 PM
Favorite Conservative (and my mentor): Pat Buchanan

Favorite Lib-uh-reel: Stephanie Miller, if I have to pick one.

Shit, good call on Stephanie Miller.  That's a quick-witted bee-atch.  Used to listen to her when driving to work in SF Bay Area about 7 years ago.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: AbrahamG on October 29, 2013, 04:12:53 PM
Shit, good call on Stephanie Miller.  That's a quick-witted bee-atch.  Used to listen to her when driving to work in SF Bay Area about 7 years ago.

I like her too.  Even though she's a dyke, I'd love to make ugly music with her and Richard Maddow.  I miss old Uncle Pat Buchanan.  He was crazier than a shit house rat, but made me LOL. 
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: RRKore on October 29, 2013, 04:18:04 PM
I like her too.  Even though she's a dyke, I'd love to make ugly music with her and Richard Maddow.  I miss old Uncle Pat Buchanan.  He was crazier than a shit house rat, but made me LOL. 

She is?  That sucks.  Her and Rachel would be hot if it were the high school version of Rachel :
(http://graneyandthepig.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/rachelmaddowyb.jpg)
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: AbrahamG on October 29, 2013, 04:19:48 PM
She is?  That sucks.  Her and Rachel would be hot if it were the high school version of Rachel :
(http://graneyandthepig.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/rachelmaddowyb.jpg)


I like a challenge.  I'd go in hard from the back on present day Rachel.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: RRKore on October 29, 2013, 04:29:29 PM
I like a challenge.  I'd go in hard from the back on present day Rachel.

At least she seems like a bottom.  (Steph has got to be a top.)

Rachel might be ready for you, though.  Didn't her advanced education (Master's thesis, maybe?) concern prison rape?  You'd risk getting shanked.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: AbrahamG on October 29, 2013, 04:35:22 PM
At least she seems like a bottom.  (Steph has got to be a top.)

Rachel might be ready for you, though.  Didn't her advanced education (Master's thesis, maybe?) concern prison rape?  You'd risk getting shanked.

I thought it had something to do with the hiv or the aids?
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: RRKore on October 29, 2013, 04:41:35 PM
OK, my favorite liberal and conservative?

Good guy liberal:  Bernie Sanders
Bad guy liberal:  Alan Grayson, without question.  (Glad that prick is on our side.)


Good guy conservative:  ????? Hmmm.  Buckley is dead so maybe Juan Williams qualifies when he's talking about Muslims? I don't know.
Bad guy conservative:  Rushbo in a very crowded field.

New category:
CILF (Conservative I'd Like to Fuck):  Megyn Kelly (Just seems like the type who would know what she was doing.)
LILF  (Liberal I'd Like to Fuck):  Don't know her name but it's Cenk Uygur's co-anchor on The Young Turks.  (She just seems like the type who'd be deliciously unaware of what she was doing/having done to her.)
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Dos Equis on October 29, 2013, 04:45:19 PM
OK, my favorite liberal and conservative?

Good guy liberal:  Bernie Sanders
Bad guy liberal:  Alan Grayson, without question.  (Glad that prick is on our side.)


Good guy conservative:  ????? Hmmm.  Buckley is dead so maybe Juan Williams qualifies when he's talking about Muslims? I don't know.
Bad guy conservative:  Rushbo in a very crowded field.

New category:
CILF (Conservative I'd Like to Fuck):  Megyn Kelly (Just seems like the type who would know what she was doing.)
LILF  (Liberal I'd Like to Fuck):  Don't know her name but it's Cenk Uygur's co-anchor on The Young Turks.  (She just seems like the type who'd be deliciously unaware of what she was doing/having done to her.)


Wrong thread.   >:(  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=349253.0
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: tonymctones on October 29, 2013, 04:47:05 PM
New category:
CILF (Conservative I'd Like to Fuck):  Megyn Kelly (Just seems like the type who would know what she was doing.)
LILF  (Liberal I'd Like to Fuck):  Don't know her name but it's Cenk Uygur's co-anchor on The Young Turks.  (She just seems like the type who'd be deliciously unaware of what she was doing/having done to her.)
haha nice touch
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Dos Equis on June 08, 2018, 01:19:28 PM
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Charles Krauthammer, the famed conservative commentator, said Friday that he is dying from cancer and has weeks left to live.


He delivered the news in the Washington Post, where he has had a column since 1984. The letter was also read on Fox News, where he's been a longtime commentator.

"My doctors tell me their best estimate is that I have only a few weeks left to live," Krauthammer wrote. "This is the final verdict. My fight is over."

Krauthammer, 68, noted he had been "uncharacteristically silent" for 10 months. That was because he had a malignant tumor removed from his abdomen. While that surgery was a success, he said it led to complications, and that an aggressive form of cancer has now returned.


"I had thought that silence would soon be coming to an end, but I'm afraid I must tell you that fate has decided on a different course for me," he wrote.

He thanked his colleagues, readers and viewers in the note, as well as his doctors and caregivers.

"I believe that the pursuit of truth and right ideas through honest debate and rigourous argument is a noble undertaking," he wrote. "I am grateful to have played a small role in the conversations that have helped guide this extraordinary nation's destiny."

Rupert Murdoch, executive chairman of Fox News, said Krauthammer had been a "guiding star" for the cable news channel.

"Charles has been a profound source of personal and intellectual inspiration for all of us at Fox News," Murdoch said, per Fox. "His always principled stand on the most important issues of our time has been a guiding star in an often turbulent world, a world that has too many superficial thinkers vulnerable to the ebb and flow of fashion, and a world that, unfortunately, has only one Charles Krauthammer


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/685283002
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Primemuscle on June 09, 2018, 02:13:00 AM


In his last days, he's proclaiming something very profound. Take the time to consider and really comprehend what he is saying. It's all about continuing the discussion. I wish I knew more about Charles Krauthammer. There are some very wise people on both sides to the spectrum who we should pay attention to because it looks like we have become irreparably polarized in a time when unity is essential to our survival.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Primemuscle on June 09, 2018, 02:14:47 AM
Here is a quick lesson on liberals for the retarded among us.

Bernie Sanders = LIBERAL

Juan Williams = NOT

Sorry, where's the question? This seems more like an opinion than a question.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Dos Equis on June 11, 2018, 02:20:43 PM
In his last days, he's proclaiming something very profound. Take the time to consider and really comprehend what he is saying. It's all about continuing the discussion. I wish I knew more about Charles Krauthammer. There are some very wise people on both sides to the spectrum who we should pay attention to because it looks like we have become irreparably polarized in a time when unity is essential to our survival.

Agree.
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Dos Equis on June 21, 2018, 05:37:40 PM
RIP

Charles Krauthammer's death sparks wide reactions: 'A huge loss'

Nicole Darrah By Nicole Darrah   | Fox News

Columnist, author and Fox News commentator Charles Krauthammer lived his life telling others exactly what he thought.

Charles Krauthammer, a longtime Fox News contributor and Pulitzer Prize winner, died Thursday at the age of 68. The Harvard-trained psychiatrist's death was expected, as he released a heartbreaking letter earlier this month detailing his cancer diagnosis.

. . .

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/21/charles-krauthammers-death-sparks-wide-reactions-huge-loss.html
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: Dos Equis on May 26, 2021, 09:14:39 PM
Juan Williams announces his departure from 'The Five' on Fox News
He will continue on at the network as a political analyst
https://www.theblaze.com/news/juan-williams-leaving-the-five
Title: Re: My favorite liberal and conservative
Post by: stockbridge2112 on May 27, 2021, 06:08:07 AM
Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard.

Juan Williams was paid to take the other side on the Five and did it very well.  He could not believe half of what he said.