IN SPITE IFBB BANNED ABBF, ANF FORMED A NEW COMMISSION UNDER LEADERSHIP OF SECRETARY GENERAL OF QATAR BODYBYBUILDING FEDEARTION MR. EBRAHIM KAFOUD, AND THEY WILL HAVE THERI 1ST ASIN CHAMPIONSHIP IN INDIA FROM 24th - 27th OF JULY 2009, AND ABBF WILL HAVE THEIR 43rd ASIAN BODYBUILDING (JUNIOR, MEN'S, MASTER, WOMEN) BODY CLASSIC, FITNESS, AND CELEBRATE THE 50 YEARS ANNVERSARY OF FOUNDATION OF ABBF.
I FELL THAT THE CHAMPIONSHIP IN THAILAND WILL BE MORE SUCCESSFFUL, AND PLEANTY OF COUNTRIES WILL PARTICIPATE IN THIS LEGGALL CHAMPIONSHIP, IN SPITE THE CHAMPUIONSHIP IN INDIA WILL BE WITH MINIMUM 8 COUNTRIES PARTICIAPATION, AND WILL NOT SUCCESS IN SPITE THE QATAR FEDERATION OFFERING 5000 US $ + 3 FREE AIR TICKETS FOR EACH COUNTRY.
ASIAN PEOPLE HAVE DEGNITY, AND NEVER ACCEPT SUCH OFFER, BBUT THOSE WITH NO ETHEICS, AND DEGNITY WILL ACCEPT THE OFFER, BUT THEY WILL FAIL LATTER ON, AND I WILL REMEBER YOU WHY?
you folks suck
do not come here again
that is all
IN SPITE IFBB BANNED ABBF, ANF FORMED A NEW COMMISSION UNDER LEADERSHIP OF SECRETARY GENERAL OF QATAR BODYBYBUILDING FEDEARTION MR. EBRAHIM KAFOUD, AND THEY WILL HAVE THERI 1ST ASIN CHAMPIONSHIP IN INDIA FROM 24th - 27th OF JULY 2009, AND ABBF WILL HAVE THEIR 43rd ASIAN BODYBUILDING (JUNIOR, MEN'S, MASTER, WOMEN) BODY CLASSIC, FITNESS, AND CELEBRATE THE 50 YEARS ANNVERSARY OF FOUNDATION OF ABBF.
I FELL THAT THE CHAMPIONSHIP IN THAILAND WILL BE MORE SUCCESSFFUL, AND PLEANTY OF COUNTRIES WILL PARTICIPATE IN THIS LEGGALL CHAMPIONSHIP, IN SPITE THE CHAMPUIONSHIP IN INDIA WILL BE WITH MINIMUM 8 COUNTRIES PARTICIAPATION, AND WILL NOT SUCCESS IN SPITE THE QATAR FEDERATION OFFERING 5000 US $ + 3 FREE AIR TICKETS FOR EACH COUNTRY.
ASIAN PEOPLE HAVE DEGNITY, AND NEVER ACCEPT SUCH OFFER, BBUT THOSE WITH NO ETHEICS, AND DEGNITY WILL ACCEPT THE OFFER, BUT THEY WILL FAIL LATTER ON, AND I WILL REMEBER YOU WHY?
The ABBF championships will be far more popular, only the likes of the liar and banned swampi the cocksmith al hadad will compete in india, he will bring his students whom he supplies with drugs, it will be a sham!
HI CSHMOE BUSTER, HE IS BANNED FOR LIFE , AND HOW COME HE WILL PARTICIPATE IN ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIP. OH YES IN CHAMPIONSHIP IN INDIA WHICH SUPERVISED BY RAFAEL WHO SUPPORT BANNED BODYBUILDER, LIKE KAMAL FROM QATAR TO PARTICIPATE IN WORLD GAMES AND IN ASIAN IN INDIA, BECUASE HE GOT HUGE AMMOUNT OF MONEY. IFBB UNDER LEADERSHIP OF RAFAEL THE MOST CORRUPT CORPORATION IN THE WORLD.
I PROMISE YOU MY FREIND THAT THIS CHAMPIONSHIP IN INDIA WILL FAIL AND YOU SESOON OR LATER.
AND ABBF WILL HAVE THEIR 43rd ASIAN BODYBUILDING...AND CELEBRATE THE 50 YEARS ANNVERSARY OF FOUNDATION OF ABBF.
the first IFBB Asian Amateur Championships was in 1970, and they certainly didn't use the name ABBF until much later.
IN 1957 WHEN IRAN HOSTED THE 1st MR. ASIA CHAMPIONSHIP IN CONJUCTION WITH THE WORLD WEIGHTLIFTING CHAMPIONSHIP.
TWO (2) YEARS LATER IN 1959 SIX COUNTRIES: SRILANKA ( CEYLON ), PAKISTAN, INDIA, MYNAMAR ( BURMA ), THAILAND, AND MALYSIA WAS THE FOUNDER OF THE ASIAN BODYBUILDING FEDERATION - ABBF, AND THE 1st CHAMPIONSHIP WAS IN SARILANKA.
IN 1970 ABBF AFFILLIATED TO IFBB.
what world u live in.do u seriously think abbf can survive without ifbb............its just an effort from that old fart paul chua to stay alive with the money of that dumb ass mo fo uae president Al fucking shafar.
WHY MY FREIND YOU ARE UPSET ABOUT THE ABOVE TOPIC, I RESPECT YOUR OPENION, AND YOU SHPULD RESPECT, IF NOT UP TO YOU. I GAVE AN INFORMATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTRESTED.
AGIAN I RESPECT YOUR OPENION.
YES ABBF WILL LIVE WITHOUT IFBB, BECAUSE FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION IFBB IS NOT REGISTERED AS FEDERATION, IT IS JUST CORPORATION. NEW WORLD BODYBUILDING FEDERATION WILL FOUND VERY SOON, TO PROMOTE THE SPORT OF BODYBUILDING, AND NOT DEPROMOTE LIKE IFBB.
WITH MY RESPECT TO YOU, I RESPECT YOUR OPENION ABOUT PAUL CHUA, AND THIS IS YOUR OPENION, FOR ME, I MET THE MAN TWICE, HE WA VERY GEGTLEMAN, HUMBLE, AND REPECTED ME IN SPITE I WAS JUST AN ORDINARY DELEGATE.
IF YOU HATE HIM THIS IS YOUR OPENION.
I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT OSAMA AL SHAFAR, YES HE IS VERY RICH MAN, BUT NEVER SHOW THAT, AND HE IS A HIGHLY EDUCATED PERSONNEL, AND FUNDIN THE SPORT OF BODYBUILDING IN ASIA, AND HE WILL SAVE THE ABBF.
YOU REMEMBER WHAT I SAID OSAMA AL SHAFAR WILL SAVE THE ABBF, AND WILL RETURN IT TO ITS NORMAL POSITION, AND EVEN MORE.
RAFAEL AND HIS COMMISSION WILL FAIL, AND THE ASIN CHAMPIONSHIP IN INDIA AGAIN WILL FAIL, AND YOU WILL GET FROM ME THE NEWS THAT WEHTER IT IS CANCLLED OR FAILED. I PROMISE YOU, AND ALSO PROOF IT TO YOU. JUST A MATTER OF TIME.
IN SPITE IFBB BANNED ABBF, ANF FORMED A NEW COMMISSION UNDER LEADERSHIP OF SECRETARY GENERAL OF QATAR BODYBYBUILDING FEDEARTION MR. EBRAHIM KAFOUD, AND THEY WILL HAVE THERI 1ST ASIN CHAMPIONSHIP IN INDIA FROM 24th - 27th OF JULY 2009, AND ABBF WILL HAVE THEIR 43rd ASIAN BODYBUILDING (JUNIOR, MEN'S, MASTER, WOMEN) BODY CLASSIC, FITNESS, AND CELEBRATE THE 50 YEARS ANNVERSARY OF FOUNDATION OF ABBF.WEIBK,
I FELL THAT THE CHAMPIONSHIP IN THAILAND WILL BE MORE SUCCESSFFUL, AND PLEANTY OF COUNTRIES WILL PARTICIPATE IN THIS LEGGALL CHAMPIONSHIP, IN SPITE THE CHAMPUIONSHIP IN INDIA WILL BE WITH MINIMUM 8 COUNTRIES PARTICIAPATION, AND WILL NOT SUCCESS IN SPITE THE QATAR FEDERATION OFFERING 5000 US $ + 3 FREE AIR TICKETS FOR EACH COUNTRY.
ASIAN PEOPLE HAVE DEGNITY, AND NEVER ACCEPT SUCH OFFER, BBUT THOSE WITH NO ETHEICS, AND DEGNITY WILL ACCEPT THE OFFER, BUT THEY WILL FAIL LATTER ON, AND I WILL REMEBER YOU WHY?
WEIBK,
Thank you very much for your post and the information. There are a great number of athletes and fans in Asia that find this type of information very interesting. This is surely one of the hottest topics in this region when it comes to bodybuilding. I myself wish all the best for the ABBF. Competition for the IFBB can only result in both federations making greater efforts to improve things for the athletes, fans and their organizations overall. I am planning on attending the Championships in Thailand if I can arrange to get away around that time. I've personally been to Pattaya on several occasions and the location itself will make for a very exciting and entertaining event. There are great bodybuilders from all over Asia and this event is set to be one of the best ever. I hope the event draws the very best from all the regional federations and becomes one of the top bodybuilding draws in Asia. That will surely cause the IFBB to step up its game.
Again, thanks for the information and I look forward to hearing any updated information you may have.
Pat Turner
Kuwaitbodybuilding.com
YES ABBF WILL LIVE WITHOUT IFBB, BECAUSE FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION IFBB IS NOT REGISTERED AS FEDERATION, IT IS JUST CORPORATION. NEW WORLD BODYBUILDING FEDERATION WILL FOUND VERY SOON, TO PROMOTE THE SPORT OF BODYBUILDING, AND NOT DEPROMOTE LIKE IFBB.
WITH MY RESPECT TO YOU, I RESPECT YOUR OPENION ABOUT PAUL CHUA, AND THIS IS YOUR OPENION, FOR ME, I MET THE MAN TWICE, HE WA VERY GEGTLEMAN, HUMBLE, AND REPECTED ME IN SPITE I WAS JUST AN ORDINARY DELEGATE.
IF YOU HATE HIM THIS IS YOUR OPENION.
I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT OSAMA AL SHAFAR, YES HE IS VERY RICH MAN, BUT NEVER SHOW THAT, AND HE IS A HIGHLY EDUCATED PERSONNEL, AND FUNDIN THE SPORT OF BODYBUILDING IN ASIA, AND HE WILL SAVE THE ABBF.
YOU REMEMBER WHAT I SAID OSAMA AL SHAFAR WILL SAVE THE ABBF, AND WILL RETURN IT TO ITS NORMAL POSITION, AND EVEN MORE.
RAFAEL AND HIS COMMISSION WILL FAIL, AND THE ASIN CHAMPIONSHIP IN INDIA AGAIN WILL FAIL, AND YOU WILL GET FROM ME THE NEWS THAT WEHTER IT IS CANCLLED OR FAILED. I PROMISE YOU, AND ALSO PROOF IT TO YOU. JUST A MATTER OF TIME.
IN 1957 WHEN IRAN HOSTED THE 1st MR. ASIA CHAMPIONSHIP IN CONJUCTION WITH THE WORLD WEIGHTLIFTING CHAMPIONSHIP.
TWO (2) YEARS LATER IN 1959 SIX COUNTRIES: SRILANKA ( CEYLON ), PAKISTAN, INDIA, MYNAMAR ( BURMA ), THAILAND, AND MALYSIA WAS THE FOUNDER OF THE ASIAN BODYBUILDING FEDERATION - ABBF, AND THE 1st CHAMPIONSHIP WAS IN SARILANKA.
IN 1970 ABBF AFFILLIATED TO IFBB.
Get a new fucking name, buddy!HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
the 1957 and 1959 events were held by the FICH. the FICH would ban for life anyone who entered a non-sanction (by them) contest. they especially hated the Weiders.
then there are many years where there were no multi-national contests in asia. it is really a stretch to claim any continuity between people running contests in Asia in the 1950s and other people running contests in the 1970s.
but then again, the IFBB likes to claim they've been running contests since 1946, even though they only held a half-dozen between 48 and 52, then nothing until 1959.
i can tell from your post that u know nothing about what is going on in asia from years.paul chua is most hated person in Asia.no one call his name without cursing him first.his all dirty work was hidden behind late Ben weider,s back.after his death no one wants to see his ugly face anymore.i know few people around osama.this stupid kid payed lots of money to be the president of ABBF.paul chua is playing him for a fool.he is the only card paul chua has to promote his bullshit agenda.once he backed out and trust me he will after this Thailand contest.cuz he is realizing it already that he is being used and their is no future for any federation without IFBB blessings.soon you will hear that all athletes and judges who are participating in Thailand show will be banned for life and will never be able to compete in any of ifbb pro contest.
The one trump card that the IFBB has in all of this is the desire from most athletes to reach the pinacle of bodybuilding and compete in the IFBB Pro League.
The ABBF championships will be far more popular, only the likes of the liar and banned swampi the cocksmith al hadad will compete in india, he will bring his students whom he supplies with drugs, it will be a sham!
WEIBK,
Thank you very much for your post and the information. There are a great number of athletes and fans in Asia that find this type of information very interesting. This is surely one of the hottest topics in this region when it comes to bodybuilding. I myself wish all the best for the ABBF. Competition for the IFBB can only result in both federations making greater efforts to improve things for the athletes, fans and their organizations overall. I am planning on attending the Championships in Thailand if I can arrange to get away around that time. I've personally been to Pattaya on several occasions and the location itself will make for a very exciting and entertaining event. There are great bodybuilders from all over Asia and this event is set to be one of the best ever. I hope the event draws the very best from all the regional federations and becomes one of the top bodybuilding draws in Asia. That will surely cause the IFBB to step up its game.
Again, thanks for the information and I look forward to hearing any updated information you may have.
Pat Turner
Kuwaitbodybuilding.com
Hey Bastard,
What is your problem with Sami Al-Haddad..? did he fuck your mother..? sisters..? or your whole family..? ???
I really dont get it, He is a great bodybuilder that follow the same ways to Achieve his goals like other bodybuilders do 8)
Tim is probably the only person on this site that actually deserves the expert tag.
I'd disagree in several cases, altho he does know his stuff
cat fight!
you know, most people from Asia who compete in the IFBB World Amateurs and the Asian Amateurs have no desire to compete in the IFBB Pro League. For many it would be a significant cut in pay. Their countries pay them sometimes six figure salaries to compete as an amateur on the international stage. Who wins this power struggle between Chua and Santonja rests solely on the Asian governments. If they tell their athletes to compete in this contest, that's what they'll do.Really? That's very interesting. Many of the bodybuilders I know would gladly sacrifice money for the opportunity to compete on "The Big Stage". That seems to be the Pinnacle of Bodybuilding Achievement for most all competitive bodybuilders. Key word being most, not all. I don't know of many athletes that can actually make a living from just competing on the amateur level. I'm sure there are some but I wouldn't think there would be a great number. Regardless, I'm really hoping that the event in Pattaya will be a success. I plan on checking it out if at all possible. I've vacationed in Pattaya many times and this would be an added bonus to be able to catch this event at the same time.
you know, most people from Asia who compete in the IFBB World Amateurs and the Asian Amateurs have no desire to compete in the IFBB Pro League. For many it would be a significant cut in pay. Their countries pay them sometimes six figure salaries to compete as an amateur on the international stage. Who wins this power struggle between Chua and Santonja rests solely on the Asian governments. If they tell their athletes to compete in this contest, that's what they'll do.
ohh really and which country is paying 6 figure.i know only ali tabraize and kamal got payed by Qatar bbf but not even close to six figures.where u heard this type of rumors.
wasnt this show suppose to be in Iran
what happened Iran and Chua are not allied anymore??!!
Really? That's very interesting. Many of the bodybuilders I know would gladly sacrifice money for the opportunity to compete on "The Big Stage". That seems to be the Pinnacle of Bodybuilding Achievement for most all competitive bodybuilders. Key word being most, not all. I don't know of many athletes that can actually make a living from just competing on the amateur level. I'm sure there are some but I wouldn't think there would be a great number. Regardless, I'm really hoping that the event in Pattaya will be a success. I plan on checking it out if at all possible. I've vacationed in Pattaya many times and this would be an added bonus to be able to catch this event at the same time.Hey Pat.
I do agree with you that the athletes will compete wherever their federations/governments tell them to. I've heard through the rumor mill that many of the Asian Federations are already on board with the ABBF and in support of this event. Nothing concrete but just a lot of talk. Well, I can tell you this much, it has made things a lot more interesting as of late. Lets all wait and see how it plays out.
If anyone has any additional information on this subject please drop me a line. I'd like to keep this updated on my Facebook page for those who are following. Thanks.
Pat Turner
Kuwaitbodybuilding.com
many southeast asian countries pay salaries to their athletes, and bonuses for winning medals
i am talking about six figure.even they are on salary it must be in pennies.why u guys creat so much hype about thing u dont know.please update us if any of asian bodybuilder is on salary from his government.
Hey Pat.
Are AAS legal in kuwait?
many southeast asian countries pay salaries to their athletes, and bonuses for winning medals
I think it was moved to Thailand because of the political situation in Iran at the moment
i dont believe these Asian governments pay a lot of money/salaries to bodybuilders for winning medals, perhaps some middle eastern countries might but I dont think its very much, perhaps if they win a gold medal or something! where i live, in Asia, the top bodybuilder has been given money but really not a lot, under 5K USD, for winning a gold medal, but the money was given was part of a program to support elite athletes who compete internationally, this bodybuilder makes most of his living training people and selling gear, he has been suspended by the IFBB for failing drug test and had to pay a fine to reduce his suspension, so that and buying drugs is where his money bonus went, that money was also from tax payers ::)
Look on the bright side pat u might have 2 different organizations with the eligibility to cross without getting band not at this stage but u never know how this thing might go in the future
IN SOME RICH COUNTRY WHICH , DON'T HAVE BODYBUILDERS, LIKE QATAR, THEY BUY THEM AS THEY DID WHEN THEY BUY ALI TABRIZI FROM IRAN, AND KAMAL ABDULSALAM FROM LYBIA AND QATAR FEDERATION PAY THEM MONTHLY SALARY NOT LESS THAN 3000 US $ + CAR + ACCOMMODATION, AND CASH MONEY IF THEY WIN:
1. GOLD MEDAL IN ARAB CHAMPIONSHIP = 15000 US $
2. " " " ASIA " = 20000 US $
3. " " " WOLD " = 25000 US $
4. ASIAN GMAES = 250000 - 500000 US $
THEY ARE RICH AND WANTS TO REACH TO THE TOP, NOT ONLY IN THE SPORT OF BODYBUILDING IN OTHER SPORTS LIKE:
* BASKETBALL.
* FOOTBALL
* ATHELTES
* HANDBALL
* WEIGHTLIFTING, AND OTHERS.
BEST WISHES AND RESPECT.
IN SOME RICH COUNTRY WHICH , DON'T HAVE BODYBUILDERS, LIKE QATAR, THEY BUY THEM AS THEY DID WHEN THEY BUY ALI TABRIZI FROM IRAN, AND KAMAL ABDULSALAM FROM LYBIA AND QATAR FEDERATION PAY THEM MONTHLY SALARY NOT LESS THAN 3000 US $ + CAR + ACCOMMODATION, AND CASH MONEY IF THEY WIN:
1. GOLD MEDAL IN ARAB CHAMPIONSHIP = 15000 US $
2. " " " ASIA " = 20000 US $
3. " " " WOLD " = 25000 US $
4. ASIAN GMAES = 250000 - 500000 US $
THEY ARE RICH AND WANTS TO REACH TO THE TOP, NOT ONLY IN THE SPORT OF BODYBUILDING IN OTHER SPORTS LIKE:
* BASKETBALL.
* FOOTBALL
* ATHELTES
* HANDBALL
* WEIGHTLIFTING, AND OTHERS.
BEST WISHES AND RESPECT.
Hi WEIBK how are you? i am fine! I did not know Qatar paid so much for athletes, of course I knew they bought athletes but those are good salaries and bonuses for bodybuilders. In my post i was refering to my country which is in Asia but very very small, most of the bodybuilders here work as trainers and sell steroids.
No AAS are not legal in Kuwait. The reason why most people think they are legal is because the enforcement of the laws prohibiting their sale, without prescription, is so lax. You can pretty much go into most pharmacies and ask for what you want. That is not limited to AAS but for most any prescription medication. I have to say that it seems to be getting better. (when I say better I mean more strict)Yes , thank you mate :)
Just about every gym has their crew of suppliers. Imagine if in the U.S. AAS were Illegal (which they are) but the enforcement against the purchase, use or sale of them was pretty much the last thing law enforcement was concerned about. I've seen guys in Kuwait pull out their AAS right there in the gym without hesitation.
I hope that answers your question.
Pat
IN SOME RICH COUNTRY WHICH , DON'T HAVE BODYBUILDERS, LIKE QATAR, THEY BUY THEM AS THEY DID WHEN THEY BUY ALI TABRIZI FROM IRAN, AND KAMAL ABDULSALAM FROM LYBIA AND QATAR FEDERATION PAY THEM MONTHLY SALARY NOT LESS THAN 3000 US $ + CAR + ACCOMMODATION, AND CASH MONEY IF THEY WIN:
1. GOLD MEDAL IN ARAB CHAMPIONSHIP = 15000 US $
2. " " " ASIA " = 20000 US $
3. " " " WOLD " = 25000 US $
4. ASIAN GMAES = 250000 - 500000 US $
THEY ARE RICH AND WANTS TO REACH TO THE TOP, NOT ONLY IN THE SPORT OF BODYBUILDING IN OTHER SPORTS LIKE:
* BASKETBALL.
* FOOTBALL
* ATHELTES
* HANDBALL
* WEIGHTLIFTING, AND OTHERS.
BEST WISHES AND RESPECT.
The most salary was given by Bahrain federation as they paid their bbers US$2700/month for a complete year to prepare for Asian games in 06 and World Championship in 07 the reduced it a bit in 08 to US$2200/month and the reward for winning are not Standard in Bahrain but are pretty good houses + jobs + car and so on
As for Qatar they provided accommodation + US$1500 per month all year long (nothing more) and they did nearly 3-4 shows a year of course their traveling expenses with their spouses to the host country + accommodation + pocket money was all taken care off
However the reward for the Winning the Overall World Championship in 06 was 250000 Dirham which sums to US$66000 in 08 they paid Kamal US$133000 for winning his weight class only which was handed to him by Rafael as he was there for the Qatar Gold Cup (where Kamal Also took home another check for US$27,000 for winning that show)
In Saudi it is not like that the bbers are lucky if they get chosen to compete and then they have to prepare from their own pocket and even if they win they dont get shit
Amateur bbers will lose a lot of endorsement from what they get from their federations and even if their federation doesnt pay them they at least get the travel expenses + the allowance to compete in the IFBB as without the good wills of their local federation they cant compete
Turning pro is a dream to a lot of people who dont know the field but once they compete they know that it is totally a different ball game and they come back like what happened with Kamal and Shahat who are multiple time world champion but didnt do well with the big dogs when they turned pro most of it goes to back of now knowing how to deal with eh pro ranks and dont understand how the judging system takes place even in the amateur rank 99% of the bbers dont know how a show id judged they just know pre-judging and final (and a lot of people think that during the prejudging placing are determined of 75% of the judging is done wich is nothing farther from the truth)
Y do u disagree ... r u from Bahrain :o ... but the top guys got what i mentioned + the others got a bit less ... in asian games they got gold & silver as i remember
I AM FROM SOUTH EAST ASIA, AND GOT THE INFORMATION FROM BODYBUILDER FROM BAHREIN.
u r not form SE Asia ... u sai du attended the arabd c.ship ... if u were frem SE Asia y would u attend that show ... and u understand arabic as well ... which country in SE Asia speaks arabic ... we all know who u r + the info u got is wrong
nothing against u ... but i guess we both know each other so no need for making up stories ... just state ur facts regarding htis matter as everyone else is doing
I TOLD THE TRUTH, AND THE I ATTENDED THE ARAB CHAMPIONSHIP, AND WILL ATTEND ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIP IN INDIA FROM 24th OF JULY, ANS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP IN QATAR. I SPEAK ARABIC AND WRITE BECAUSE I STUDY THE QUAAN LANGUAGE IN AIN AL SHAMS UNIVERSITY. I AM FROM SEA REGION. YOU BELEIVE OR NOT IT IS UP TO YOU. AND THIS THE FACT IF YOU WANT TO KNOW.
The most salary was given by Bahrain federation as they paid their bbers US$2700/month for a complete year to prepare for Asian games in 06 and World Championship in 07 the reduced it a bit in 08 to US$2200/month and the reward for winning are not Standard in Bahrain but are pretty good houses + jobs + car and so on
As for Qatar they provided accommodation + US$1500 per month all year long (nothing more) and they did nearly 3-4 shows a year of course their traveling expenses with their spouses to the host country + accommodation + pocket money was all taken care off
However the reward for the Winning the Overall World Championship in 06 was 250000 Dirham which sums to US$66000 in 08 they paid Kamal US$133000 for winning his weight class only which was handed to him by Rafael as he was there for the Qatar Gold Cup (where Kamal Also took home another check for US$27,000 for winning that show)
In Saudi it is not like that the bbers are lucky if they get chosen to compete and then they have to prepare from their own pocket and even if they win they dont get shit
Amateur bbers will lose a lot of endorsement from what they get from their federations and even if their federation doesnt pay them they at least get the travel expenses + the allowance to compete in the IFBB as without the good wills of their local federation they cant compete
Turning pro is a dream to a lot of people who dont know the field but once they compete they know that it is totally a different ball game and they come back like what happened with Kamal and Shahat who are multiple time world champion but didnt do well with the big dogs when they turned pro most of it goes to back of now knowing how to deal with eh pro ranks and dont understand how the judging system takes place even in the amateur rank 99% of the bbers dont know how a show id judged they just know pre-judging and final (and a lot of people think that during the prejudging placing are determined of 75% of the judging is done wich is nothing farther from the truth)
GREAT NEWS FOR ABBF.
not great news for the athletes, as they'll still have to deal with Chua.
how come the only way anything changes in bodybuilding is to wait until the old guard dies off?
WITH MY RESPECT CHUA IS ONE PERSON, I THING THAT ABBF LEARNED A LESSON FROM THIS, AND I HOPE THAT THEY MUST PROMOTE THE SPORT, AND IF CHUA MAKE MISTAKES , HE PAID FOR IT.
RESPECT YOUR OPENION.
I see no evidence that the ABBF is anything but a privately held company, incorporated in Singapore, and owned by Chua.
YOU WILL SEE IT VERY SOON MY FREIND, THAT ABBF IS AN INTERCONTINENTAL BB FEDERATION, AND RECOGNOZED BY OCA, AND WADA. PLEASE WAIT AND SEE.
world is out that Arnold is becoming the new president of IFBB.if this is true.you guys packup ur bags and go to timbakto for long holidays.
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1) stop typing in all CAPS. it is considered rude
2) these 'legal' vs 'illegal' arguments is not going to win over anyone's opinion in the west. Everyone should be free to form or join any organization that they want.
3) you are still associating with someone who's been repeatedly accused of fixing contests. He's even been accused of improperly using the honorific title Datuk (similar to the British Sir)
(http://i6.tinypic.com/6q9itcm.jpg)Mars will this hotty be competing? If so I'll be there
TILL NOW THAI BODYBUILDING FEDERATION RECEIVED 33 ASIAN NATION FOR PARTICIPATING IN 43rd ASIAN BODYBUILDING (MEN"S, JUNIOR, MASTER, CLASSIC), WOMEN BODYBUILDING, FITNESS, AND BODY FITNESS) FROM 11th - 17tH OF AUGAUST 2009 IM PATTAYA - THAILAND.
SAC (SPECIAL ASIAN COMMISION) WHICH FORMED BY IFBB IN QATAR ANNOUNCED THAT 25 COUNYTRIES WILL PARTICIPATE IN INDIA. TOTAL COUNTRIES AFFILLIATED TO ABF ARE 38. IF 35 WILL PARTICIPATE IN THAILAND, HOW COME 25 WILL PARTICIPATE IN INDIA? AFTER OCA RECOGNIZED ABBF AS AN OFFICIAL BB FEDERATION, I THINK THERE WANT BE ANY CHAMPIONSHIP IN INDIA.
TILL NOW THAI BODYBUILDING FEDERATION RECEIVED 33 ASIAN NATION FOR PARTICIPATING IN 43rd ASIAN BODYBUILDING (MEN"S, JUNIOR, MASTER, CLASSIC), WOMEN BODYBUILDING, FITNESS, AND BODY FITNESS) FROM 11th - 17tH OF AUGAUST 2009 IM PATTAYA - THAILAND.
SAC (SPECIAL ASIAN COMMISION) WHICH FORMED BY IFBB IN QATAR ANNOUNCED THAT 25 COUNYTRIES WILL PARTICIPATE IN INDIA. TOTAL COUNTRIES AFFILLIATED TO ABF ARE 38. IF 35 WILL PARTICIPATE IN THAILAND, HOW COME 25 WILL PARTICIPATE IN INDIA? AFTER OCA RECOGNIZED ABBF AS AN OFFICIAL BB FEDERATION, I THINK THERE WANT BE ANY CHAMPIONSHIP IN INDIA.
CAN YOU PLEASE STOP WRITING IN CAPS?? ??
CAN YOU TELL ME WHY? I USEWD TO TYPE ALL MY ASSIGNMENT ATWORK IN CAPITAL LETTER, AND I MA USED TO IT. SORRY FOR ANY MISUNDERSTANDING.
because it is considered rude and lazy
I DISAGREE, BUT THIS IS YOUR OPENION, AND I RESPECT IT.
No you don't, because even though many people have told you that typing in all caps on the internet is considered rude, you continue to do it.
Typing in caps is a way to emphasize a word or phrase, to make an idea STAND OUT. Typing in all caps is considered yelling. If you are always yelling, people will start to tune you out.
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paul chua died in his toilet.
It's a shame that these issues have surfaced at this time and ultimately, in the short term, the Athletes are the ones that end up suffering. When dealing with bodybuilding and the time, money and sacrifice it takes to prepare for a competition it is in noboys best interest for last minute changes in dates and venues to occur. Although I think that the success of the ABBF (if that happens) will be a good thing for the athletes and the sport of Bodybuilding in the long run, I still feel for the athletes who have planned and prepared for the Championships in India. I would think it would be disheartening going their knowing you are not competing against the level/caliber of athlete that you were expecting.So in other words Pat,Sami the cocksmith takes gear??
Best wishes to the ABBF and all the Asian Athletes regardless of which Federation they choose to compete in. I will be waiting anxiously for the outcome of this very interesting situation.
Pat Turner
So in other words Pat,Sami the cocksmith takes gear??
Is that what you are trying ti say?
It's a shame that these issues have surfaced at this time and ultimately, in the short term, the Athletes are the ones that end up suffering. When dealing with bodybuilding and the time, money and sacrifice it takes to prepare for a competition it is in noboys best interest for last minute changes in dates and venues to occur. Although I think that the success of the ABBF (if that happens) will be a good thing for the athletes and the sport of Bodybuilding in the long run, I still feel for the athletes who have planned and prepared for the Championships in India. I would think it would be disheartening going their knowing you are not competing against the level/caliber of athlete that you were expecting.
Best wishes to the ABBF and all the Asian Athletes regardless of which Federation they choose to compete in. I will be waiting anxiously for the outcome of this very interesting situation.
HI TURNERG31, YOU ARE TOTTALLY RIGHT, THE ATHEETS WILL PAY FOR THE CHANGE OF THE DATE AND THE AVENUE, BUT ALL OF THIS DUE TO WRONG PLANNIING OF THE NATIONL FEDERATION, AND FOLLOWING THEIR BENIFIT ON BEHALF OF THEIR ATHELETS, AT THE END THE POOR ATHELTES WILL BE THE VICTIMS. THE CHAMPIONSHIP IN INDIA IS ILLEGAL, AND AGAINST THE RULES, AND IFBB HAS NO RIGHT TO INTRRUPT IN ASIA. RESPECT YOUR OPENION.
Pat Turner
WEIBK do you know which 7 countries will compete in India?
DEAR SCHMOE BUSTER, NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU. AS PER THE INFORMATION WHICH I GOT ( QATAR, KUWAIT, BAHRAIN, LEBANON, PLASTINE, INDIA & SRILANKA ) TILL TODAY.
DEAR SCHMOE BUSTER, NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU. AS PER THE INFORMATION WHICH I GOT ( QATAR, KUWAIT, BAHRAIN, LEBANON, PLASTINE, INDIA & SRILANKA ) TILL TODAY.
According to the website of the Indian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation Jay Cutler and Dennis Wolf are scheduled to Guest Pose at the upcoming Asian Championships to be held in India. Can anybody verify this information.
http://www.ifbb.com/newsletter/detail.php?id=7342
No you don't, because even though many people have told you that typing in all caps on the internet is considered rude, you continue to do it.Get over it, maybe in his country it is NOT considered rude ::)
Typing in caps is a way to emphasize a word or phrase, to make an idea STAND OUT. Typing in all caps is considered yelling. If you are always yelling, people will start to tune you out.
Kuwait? Are you sure about that? I'll definately be looking into who is going from Kuwait. As far as I can remember I don't think Kuwait has had a team compete in any bodybuilding competition in the recent past. They may have had some individuals participate in various regional competitions but as far as I know they have never even attempted to put a team together. Thanks for the info.
Pat
GREAT NEWS & SURPRISE FOR ASIAN NATIONS WITNIN 24 HOURS
THE NEWS WHICH I WAS PROMISSED YOU AS FOLLOWS: MINISTRY OF YOUTH AFFAIRS HAS NOT GIVEn PERMISSION TO INDAIN BODYBUILDING FEDERATION TO ORGANIZE MR. ASIA IN INDIA. HOW COME INDIA ORGANIZE THIS CHAMPIONSHIP WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF TOP SPORT ORGANIZATION, IT IS VERY STRANGE!!!!!!!!
other than perhaps a local occupancy permit, why should governments have any say in private sporting events?
THIS PART FROM THE NEWS, THE BIG AND SUPRISE ON THE WAY, WHICH WILL MAKE ALL BODYBUILDER IN THE WORLD HAPPY.
THIS PART FROM THE NEWS, THE BIG AND SUPRISE ON THE WAY, WHICH WILL MAKE ALL BODYBUILDER IN THE WORLD HAPPY.
THIS PART FROM THE NEWS, THE BIG AND SUPRISE ON THE WAY, WHICH WILL MAKE ALL BODYBUILDER IN THE WORLD HAPPY.
DEAR PAT, AS PER MY INFORMATION MR. BADER BUDAIY WILL BE THE HEAD OF THE DELIGATE FOR KUWAIT BB FEDERATION. YOU ARE RIGHT , FOR PAST 10 YEARS I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY TEAM FROM KUWAIT TO PARTICIPATE IN ARB, ASIA OR IFBB CHAMPIONSHIP, AND AS MENTIONED ONLY INDIVIDUALS PARTICPATED ON THEIR OWN.That's great news. I really wish Kuwait would participate (as a team) in more international competitions. I'm sure they could put together some really good teams. I've seen some amazing bodybuilders in Kuwait. Guys just come and go and never really get a chance to be seen. I'll definitely be on the lookout for the Kuwait team. Do you know if they plan on attending the Championships in Thailand?
That's great news. I really wish Kuwait would participate (as a team) in more international competitions. I'm sure they could put together some really good teams. I've seen some amazing bodybuilders in Kuwait. Guys just come and go and never really get a chance to be seen. I'll definitely be on the lookout for the Kuwait team. Do you know if they plan on attending the Championships in Thailand?
Pat
DEAR PAT, I DOUBT THAT KUWAIT WILL PARTICIPATE IN THAILAND, KUWAIT WORKING AGAINST ABBF, AND I HOPE THAT THEY WILL AWAKE FROM THEIR DREAM.
Why would they want to go to Thailand?
Better question is why would they not want to go to Thailand? Maybe I'm wrong but I would think that really competitive athletes and teams would want to take every opportunity to compete in high level International competitions. As I stated before, I have never known Kuwait to take a team to any competition in the recent past (10yrs) and any opportunity to compete against other regional and Asian powerhouses should be welcomed. Not to mention the competition is in Pattaya, Thailand. That in itself is a reason to want to go. You may not know what I'm talking about unless you've been before. Take my word for it, it's worth going even if their wasn't a competition within 1,000 miles of the place.
Pat
Better question is why would they not want to go to Thailand? Maybe I'm wrong but I would think that really competitive athletes and teams would want to take every opportunity to compete in high level International competitions. As I stated before, I have never known Kuwait to take a team to any competition in the recent past (10yrs) and any opportunity to compete against other regional and Asian powerhouses should be welcomed. Not to mention the competition is in Pattaya, Thailand. That in itself is a reason to want to go. You may not know what I'm talking about unless you've been before. Take my word for it, it's worth going even if their wasn't a competition within 1,000 miles of the place.
Pat
But it's not an IFBB show.
BECaUSE ASIAN PEOPLE NEVER SELL THEIR DIGNITY, NO MATTER HOW THEY WILL PAY.
you go on and on about honor and what's legal and illegal, but this whole schism is because Chua had repeatedly been accused of fixing contests in exchange for money.
IT IS SUPPORTED BY IFBB AND SPECIALY THE PRESIDENT RAFAEL SANTONJA, AND QATAR BB FEDERATION, IN ORDER TO FOUND NEW ASIAN FEDERATION RAHTER THAN ABBF. BUT BELIEVE ME THIS CHAMPIONSHIP NVER HELD IN INDIA, BACAUSE IT IS AGAINST THE RULES, AND ILLEGAL. OLYMPIC COUNCIL OF ASIA ( OCA ) RECOGNIZED ONLY ABBF.
RAFAEL TRIED TO DEVIDE THE ASIS TO 2 PARTS, BUT THANKS GOD HE AND HIS GROUP FAILED, BECUSE ASIAN PEOPLE NEVER SELL THEIR DIGNITY, NO MATTER HOW THEY WILL PAY.
MY FREIND IT IS IFBB SHOW AND UNDER ITS AGENDA, AND TO BE MORE SURE, VISIT IFBB WEBSITE, AND SEE THE CALANDER FOR 2009. SORY FOR THIS LONG EXPLANATION. REGARDS.
Is the show in Thailand organised by Douglas Latchford?
http://www.abbf.asia/10072007b.html
TILL NOW AS THAILAND BODYBUILDING FEDERATION 33 COUNTRIES WILL PARTICIPATE IN THE 43rd ABBF CHAMPIONSHIP FROM 11tH - 17th OF AUGUST 2009, AS PER THE NEWS FROM THAILNAD BB FEDERATION.
Is this show being run by Douglas Latchford and Paul Chua?
IT IS ABBF SHOW. 43rd ASIAN BODYBUILDING ( MEN, JUNIOR, MASTER, CLASSIC, AND WOMEN ) BODYFITNESS AND FITNESS.
NOTHING TO DO WITH MR. DAUGLAS OR mR. CHUA. IT IS IN PATTAYA - THAILAND.
If it's an ABBF show it's Paul Chua then.
CALL IT AS PER YOUR JUDGMENT, AND I RESPECT YOUR OPENION.
Good post, webcke.....
THANKS WEBCKE.
If it's an ABBF show it's Paul Chua then.I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS GENTLEMAN WHO WROTE THIS EMAIL TO ABBF, AND HE IS NOT TAKING SIDE, BUT TALKING ABOT JUSTICE AND FACTS.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS GENTLEMAN WHO WROTE THIS EMAIL TO ABBF, AND HE IS NOT TAKING SIDE, BUT TALKING ABOT JUSTICE AND FACTS.
So in brief. The IFBB suspended Paul Chua and the ABBF for irregularities and both the IFBB and the ABBF are running shows in Asia?
IFBB HAS NO RIGHT TO BAN INTERCONTINETAL FEDERATION LIKE ABBF, THERFORE ABBF WILL RUN THE 43rd ASIAN BODYBUILDING AND FITNESS CHAMPIONSHIP AS PER THE ABBF SCHEDUALE.
IFBB BANNED MR. CHUA FROM IFBB, BECAUSE RAFAEL WAS AFRAID AND SCARED OF HIM, AND HE WAS SCARED OF HIS SEAT, BUT HE DON;T KNOW THAT THE CHAIR IS NOT FOR EVER FOR HIM, POEPLE WILL CHANGE , BUT THE CHAIR WILL REMAIN.
the only thing any org can do is say "you're no longer a member of our private club". that's all the ifbb did, and they were within their rights to do so.
no, they banned Chua because the accusations of corruption were getting too loud to ignore
Term limits. that's what we need. in every org, at every level, both amateur and pro.
MY FREIND I AM NOT A MEMEBER OF IFBB OR ABBF, BUT I LIKE THIS SPORT,AND AS AN ASIAN CITIZEN MUST FIGHT FOR OUR DIGNITY. NOT MATTER WHO WILL WIN, AT THE END THE WINNER WILL , WE MUST WE REMAIN GOOD FIRENDS AND COLLIGUES.
ABOUT CHUA I DON'T ANY THING ABOUT HIM, GOD KNOWS, IF HE IS CPRRUPT, HONEST OR CLEAN.
MY FREIND I AM NOT A MEMEBER OF IFBB OR ABBF, BUT I LIKE THIS SPORT,AND AS AN ASIAN CITIZEN MUST FIGHT FOR OUR DIGNITY.
ABOUT CHUA I DON'T ANY THING ABOUT HIM, GOD KNOWS, IF HE IS CPRRUPT, HONEST OR CLEAN.
so, support the athlete's right to enter any and all contests, NABBA, Musclemania, IFBB, WNBF, WBBF, etc.IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY CHAMPIONSHIP YOU LIKE. I AM NOT A TOP OFFICIAL IN ANY INTERCONTINENTAL FEDERATION IN ORDER TO FIGHT FOR MR. CHUA OR ANY OTHER MEMBERS. THIS IS NOT HIS ORGANIZATIO, IT IS BELONG TO ASIAN NATIONS. WE MUST RESPECT EACH OTHERS, NO RELIGIOUS, RACE, POLITIC,AND NATIONALITIES IN SPORT OF BODYBUILDING.
that you're willing to support his org even if its corrupt says a lot about you
ABBF and IFBB (amateur) are both corrupt.
That's the reason the IFBB World Championships in Dubai was canceled.
fixed.
It's a shame that accusations against one individual has labeled an entire International Organization as being corrupt. I guess that's just the way it goes. If everyone uses this logic then pretty much every sporting organization in the world can be labeled as corrupt in some way or another. I do agree that term limits should be set. This is the only way to ensure that one person can't monopolize any organization. I'm actually in support of the ABBF for the simple fact that having two viable International Bodybuilding Organizations would be better for the athletes. Each organization would be forced to step up their game and do things in order to compete with the other organization. Having a monopoly allows one organization to do whats in its best interest and not necessarily what will benefit the athletes.
Pat
MY FREIND I AM NOT A MEMEBER OF IFBB OR ABBF, BUT I LIKE THIS SPORT,AND AS AN ASIAN CITIZEN MUST FIGHT FOR OUR DIGNITY. NOT MATTER WHO WILL WIN, AT THE END THE WINNER WILL , WE MUST WE REMAIN GOOD FIRENDS AND COLLIGUES.
ABOUT CHUA I DON'T ANY THING ABOUT HIM, GOD KNOWS, IF HE IS CPRRUPT, HONEST OR CLEAN.
The decision by the IFBB to suspend the ABBF was not an attack against Asians it was because of the alleged corrupt activities of Paul Chua. The only person who should be concerned about his dignity is Paul Chua?Could we get this moved to the Asian Board? ;D
Could we get this moved to the Asian Board? ;D;D
IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY CHAMPIONSHIP YOU LIKE. I AM NOT A TOP OFFICIAL IN ANY INTERCONTINENTAL FEDERATION IN ORDER TO FIGHT FOR MR. CHUA OR ANY OTHER MEMBERS. THIS IS NOT HIS ORGANIZATIO, IT IS BELONG TO ASIAN NATIONS. WE MUST RESPECT EACH OTHERS, NO RELIGIOUS, RACE, POLITIC,AND NATIONALITIES IN SPORT OF BODYBUILDING.
I AM SORY TO TELL YOU THAT MY CONDUCT, AND ETHICS WANT ALLOW ME TO SAY BAD WORDS. PLEASE RESPECT.
WEIBK with all due respect you often talk about Asian dignity and rights etc yet say bodybuilding should not have any aspects of race,politics,nationality, or religion but you seem to follow Chua's story that Rafael and the IFBB a fed made up of mostly white countries (after separation with ABBF) is looking down on and raping the dignity of Asian people etc, so this brings race and nationality into it, quite frankly this is not true, Chua has made this a racial issue by claiming that Rafael and the IFBB are against the ABBF purely on racial and nationalistic grounds, he uses this angle to keep Asian national feds under his umbrella, the reason why ABBF was kicked out was corruption, now i think Rafael and William Tierney are corrupt and foolish in certain ways but the ABBF is too. I have competed in both IFBB and ABBF contests in the past and they are both the same, sadly not all Asians keep their dignity.
HI SCHMOE BUSTER, NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU. YOU ARE TOTALY RIGHT, ABBF LEARNED A LESSON AND EVEN CHUA, MY PIONT WAS THAT THERE WILL BE 2 ASIAN FEDERATION , EXIST ONE ABBF, AND THE ONE WHICH WILL BE ELECTED IN INDIA. ALL THIS BECUASE OF WHAT YOU MENTIONED THE CORRUPTION, AND USE THE POWER. BELEIVE ME A BIG SUPRISE WILL BE ON THE WAY FOR BOTH ABBF, AND IFBB. MY CONCERNED WAS THAT WE WAS HAVING ONE FEDERATION IN ASIA, BUT NOW WE WILL BE DEVIDED, AND WHO WILL SUFFER POOR ATHELTES. I HOPE YOU GOT MY PIONT. REGARDS.
Can this thread be deleted? Who cares ???
quiet Chick will think you are gay ;DYes he will because the word GAY is in this post you really have to watch yourself around him :D
Yes he will because the word GAY is in this post you really have to watch yourself around him :D
Chicks Gaydar will be homed inLOL :D
MR. ASIA & ELECTORAL CONGRESS FOR NEW ASIAN BODYBUILDING FEDERATION UNDER LEADERSHIP OF RAFAEL SANTONJA WILL START TODAY IN INDIA, LOOKING FOR A STRONG, TRNASPRANCY, AND HONEST COMMITTEE TO RUN THIS NEW FEDERATION.
Any idea of the candidates? wonder how honest this new fed will be!We'll send Chick down to make sure all is ok ;D
We'll send Chick down to make sure all is ok ;Dhahhaha 'Dave' with the classics
We'll send Chick down to make sure all is ok ;D
Chick can report back to us his findingsHe'll probably think everyone is GAY there. ;D
He'll probably think everyone is GAY there. ;DThen proceed to give blow jobs all the while telling us 'its gay if you want it to be' ...
Then proceed to give blow jobs all the while telling us 'its gay if you want it to be' ...Fantastic point. ;D
Any idea of the candidates? wonder how honest this new fed will be!
DEAR SCHMOE BUSTER, THE FOLLOWING COUNTRIES PARTICIPATING IN MR. ASIA IN INDIA, AND IFFB SUPPORTED THIS CHAMPIONSHIP, AND ELCT THE NEW ABBF COMMITTEE.
QATAR
BAHRAIN
KOREA
JAPAN
SRILANK
TAJIKSTAN
UZBEKISTAN
Palestine
AZARBAIJAN
INDIA
What a Great "Asian" Championships!!!!
Does anybody actually give a shit about asian BB?
PRESS RELEASE
WE UNDERSTAND THAT MR RAFAEL SANTONJA HAS GIVEN THIS STATEMENT THAT ABBF ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIP AT PATTAYA IS NOT SANCTION BY IFBB AND THE ANSWER IS VERY SIMPLE THAT ABBF DO NOT REQUIRE ANY APPROVAL OR SANCTION BY THE IFBB SINCE THEY ARE NOT LEGALLY REGISTERED INTERNATIONAL ORGANISATION IN SPAIN AND MOREOVER, WE ARE NOT AFFILIATED TO THE IFBB.
WE (ABBF) ARE RECOGNISED BY THE OLYMPIC COUNCIL OF ASIA AND A SEPARATE ENTITY AND A SOVEREIGN BODY. IN FACT THEIR SO CALLED ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIP AT AURANGABAD IS NOT APPROVED BY THE GOVERNMENT OF INDIA. THEREFORE THE IFBB EVENT AND CONGRESS IN INDIA IS NOT LEGAL.
IT IS UNBECOMING BEHAVIOUR OF MR. RAFAEL SANTONJA REPRESENTING THE INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION WHICH DOES NOT EXIST LEGALLY AND ALLOWING INDIVIDUALS TO REPRESENT A COUNTRY WHEREBY THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY ACCREDITIONS OR RECOGNITION BY THEIR NATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE OR BY THEIR MINISTRY OF SPORTS.
MR RAFAEL IS BEHAVING IN INAPPROPRIATE MANNER. THE WORKING OF MR RAFAEL SHOWS THAT HE IS UNINTELLIGENT AND LACKED ELEMENTARY ETIQUETTE IN THE INTERNATIONAL SPORTS COMMUNITY.
OVER 33 COUNTRIES SUPPORTED BY THEIR NATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEES AND SPORTS MINISTRIES ARE PARTICIPATING IN PATTAYA, THAILAND. ON WHAT GROUNDS MR RAFAEL IS SAYING THAT WE NEED HIS APPROVAL TO HOST THE ASIAN BODYBUILDING CHAMPIONSHIPS, WE HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR THE PAST 50 YEARS, AND WE ARE CELEBRATING OUR GOLDEN JUBILEE IN PATTAYA. IT IS A SHAME THAT THIS SPANISH MAN IS INTERFERING IN OUR ASIAN AFFAIRS.
REGARDS
Amit Swami
IBBF Executive Director
Asst. Secretary - ABBF
IF YOU DON'T DO, BUT THERE ARE LOT WHO ARE INTRESTED ABOUT ASIAN BB, AS WILL AS ALL OVER THE WORLD.
calm down, i just think it's cute that you are angry all the time.
THE CHAMPIONSHIP IN INDIA IS NOT SUPPORTRD BY MINISTRY OF SPORT IN INDIA, THERFORE IT IS NOT LEGAL.
HI DONKEYKONG, I AM ALWAYS CALM, AND PATIENCE, I NEVER BE ANGRY AND RESPECT YOUR OPINION.
THE CHAMPIONSHIP IN INDIA IS NOT SUPPORTRD BY MINISTRY OF SPORT IN INDIA, THERFORE IT IS NOT LEGAL.
Please click this below link and you will find news about illegal championship of Aurangabad.
http://news.webindia123.com/news/articles/India/20090721/1300425.html
One of the chief reasons your country has not eveolved from the stone-age
DEAR SCHMOE BUSTER, THE FOLLOWING COUNTRIES PARTICIPATING IN MR. ASIA IN INDIA, AND IFFB SUPPORTED THIS CHAMPIONSHIP, AND ELCT THE NEW ABBF COMMITTEE.
QATAR
BAHRAIN
KOREA
JAPAN
SRILANK
TAJIKSTAN
UZBEKISTAN
Palestine
AZARBAIJAN
INDIA
WEIBK thanks for the list, Im surprised at Japan but then again, will that old bag of wind Hitoshi Tamari be kicked out from the ABBF executive council?HI SCHMOE BUSTER, TAMARI HAS 2 FACES, HE WANTS TO HAVE TO BOTHE POSITION, IFBB PATRON, AND ABBF EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT. AND ALL DEPEND ON THE ABBF EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING. I THING HE WILL BE KICK OUT FROM ABBF.
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WITH MY GREAT RESPECT TO THESE COUNTRIES, THEY NEVER PARTICIPATE IN ABBFCHAMPIONSHIP, AND SOME DID NOT ACHIEVE ANY MEDALS LIKE SARILANKA.
This is why they enter the IFBB Asian championships, higher chance of a medal
YOU ARE RIGHT, MY FREIND, AND NEW COMMITTEE FOR ASIAN BB FEDERATION ELECTED AND AS FOLLOWS:
President-Shaikh Abdullah Bin Rasid Ali Khalifa Bahrain
Executive Vice President-Ifrahim Kafood Qatar
General Secretary-Sanyay More India
Vice President -Jeff Sri lanka
Treasurer- Name not announced Bahrain
Vice presidents from Korea,Japan Palestine Kuwait Qatar and China will be announced in Few Days.
IF YOU SEE FROM THE ABOVE ONLY VERY FEW OFFICIALS ATTENDED, FOR THIS REASON ALL THE POSITION ARE VACANT. TODAY WILL BE THE FINAL AND SAMI FROM BAHRAIN WILL PARTICIPATE IN THE EVENT.
YOU ARE RIGHT, MY FREIND, AND NEW COMMITTEE FOR ASIAN BB FEDERATION ELECTED AND AS FOLLOWS:
President-Shaikh Abdullah Bin Rasid Ali Khalifa Bahrain
Executive Vice President-Ifrahim Kafood Qatar
General Secretary-Sanyay More India
Vice President -Jeff Sri lanka
Treasurer- Name not announced Bahrain
Vice presidents from Korea,Japan Palestine Kuwait Qatar and China will be announced in Few Days.
IF YOU SEE FROM THE ABOVE ONLY VERY FEW OFFICIALS ATTENDED, FOR THIS REASON ALL THE POSITION ARE VACANT. TODAY WILL BE THE FINAL AND SAMI FROM BAHRAIN WILL PARTICIPATE IN THE EVENT.
Swampi the cocksmith al hadad competing just shows how pathetic this contest is, he is supposed to be banned for life by the IFBB ::)We'll need Chick to investigate :o
Does anyone know what the benfit would be for Sami to compete and lets say win in India. Will this somehow advance him in his pursuit of competing in the Pro League?
Swampi the cocksmith al hadad competing just shows how pathetic this contest is, he is supposed to be banned for life by the IFBB ::)
Does anyone know how much Bahrain paid?I'm not sure how much Sami or other athletes in his situation get paid by their Federations but I'm sure there are plenty of athletes that would gladly sacrifice that money for the chance to make it on the big stage. After all, we all know that the IFBB Pro League is the Pinnacle of Bodybuilding and the end goal of most aspiring bodybuilders. I would be willing to bet that Sami would take his shot if given the chance. IMHO.
Last time UAE paid US$130000 to have one of their people as a president
I dont think sami will go to pro as he is getting paid from his federation. The top amateurs make more money than 95% of the pros & with this line up any one can be a top guy and get compensated by his country. It is a great chance for any Asian Bodybuilder; but for how long
After Bahrain paid Rafael under the table......everything is possible!!!
BREAKING NEWS!!
BREAKING NEWS!!
According to several Facebook pages Sami Al Haddad and Raed Fuad, from Bahrain, both won gold medals at the Asian Championships (IFBB) in India. Raed won in the 100kg+ catagory and Sami in the 100kg class. Congratulations to both.
Pat
Pat, how many athletes were in their weight class and were they drug tested? whats a Gold medal if their are only a few guys in the weight class, we know Swampi is a habitual drug chest but i bet he wasnt tested ::)
I'm not sure right now but as soon as I find out any details I'll make sure to put them up. I do know that four Bahraini Athletes made it to the finals on the last day. Actually, Bahrain may have only taken four athletes. Anyway, I'll post whatever info I can get.
Well there was what 6 countries competing, we all know Bahrain will pay for placings and the ignoring of drug tests ::)Somehow I think Chick may have something to do with this.
Well there was what 6 countries competing, we all know Bahrain will pay for placings and the ignoring of drug tests ::)
GREAT CHAMPIONSHIP, HAHAHAHAHAH ,ONLY 6 COUNTRIES PARTICIPATED IN ELECTORAL CHAMPIONSHIP, WHICH WAS NOT LEGAL
too bad 5, 10, 20 years from now, no one will remember the controversy. but the results will still be recorded as the IFBB Asian Amateur Championships (http://musclememory.com/male/contests/asian_amateur_championships_-_ifbb.html)
and please stop with the illegal crap, unless you can site national or international criminal or civil law that is supposedly being broken.
VERY SOON MY FREIND YOU WILL HEAR A BIG SHOCK NEWS. PLEASE WAIT AND SEE. I DON'T TAKE ANY SIDE, BUT TALK THE FACTS AND TRUTH. YOUR OPINION RESPECTED.
too bad 5, 10, 20 years from now, no one will remember the controversy. but the results will still be recorded as the IFBB Asian Amateur Championships (http://musclememory.com/male/contests/asian_amateur_championships_-_ifbb.html)
and please stop with the illegal crap, unless you can site national or international criminal or civil law that is supposedly being broken.
Sorry, I know it's kind of long but I just thought it was worth reading. This feud these organizations are having is ridiculous but check out the sentence I highlighted in red. Come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
India
IFBB chief says Aurangabad championships is the real Asian tourney
Aurangabad | Thursday, Jul 23 2009 IST
The International Federation of Body Building and Fitness (IFBB) President, Dr Rafael Santonja today said talks of the so-called Asian Body Building meet in Pattaya City of Thailand were not correct and the 43rd Asian Body Building Championship to be held here from tomorrow were the real championships.
Addressing local sports scribes here, Santonja said the Pattaya meet, as claimed by an 'illegal Asian body', is not approved, sanctioned or recognised by the IFBB. ''We are here to guide and educate people and not indulge in a low-level fight. We will continue to support the sport in a fair and just manner-free from corruption - throughout Asia. The IFBB will continue to work unitedly to fight doping in sport and to advocate fair play for all,'' said Santonja, who is also the IFBB representative to the International Olympic Committee.
Santonja is looking forward to the upcoming 43rd Asian Body Building Championship and Asian Electoral Congress to be held here this week. ''I'm sure the Electoral Congress would usher in a new beginning for the sport in Asia. We are also pleased to have the Asian Championship in this part of the world. In fact, I had planned to visit this historic city of Aurangabad last year. I am glad that I've finally made it this time,'' Santonja said.
The IFBB chief from Spain said bodybuilding lifestyle is followed by millions of people worldwide. ''Bodybuilding training and nutrition help the individuals to achieve a strong muscular development adapted to the highest sport performance. It's always been IFBB's endeavour to promote a healthy lifestyle and discourage the use of alcohol, tobacco and drugs.'' Reiterating IFBB's support to body building in Asia, Santonja said efforts are also on to establish an anti-doping commission in the continent. He also lauded the efforts taken by the Secretary of Indian Body Building and Fitness Federation, Sanjay More, and his other office-bearers for putting their best foot forward in organizing the forthcoming mega event in Aurangabad. The Assistant General Secretary of IFBB, William Tierney, Wanda Tierney (chairperson of the women's committee, IFBB), Mauricio de Arruda (Brazil), Dubai-based Suresh Pai (Member, Media Commission of International Federation), Aurangabad's Indian Federation Secretary Sanjay More, and the Treasurer Rajesh Sawant were also present during the Press briefing.
Pat i quite agree with you that this whole situation is getting ridiculous, IFBB and ABBF running contests in Asia is good, more choice and opportunities for bodybuilders, these schmoes who look like they never workout should stop their childish bitching and get on with improving the sport, both sides are run by morons and both are corrupted, all this nonsense about whats legal/illegal is gay, run more contests,athletes interests first,be fair, bring some Pro Grand Prix to Asia, that is what needs doing, simple!
HI MY FREIND YOU ARE RIGHT, AND THIS WILL HAPPENED SOON OR LATER, AND YOU WILL HEAR VERY SOON GOOD NEWS ABOUT SPORT OF BODYBUILDING IN ASIA AND IN THE WORLD.
What out Schome Buster Chick is back on the board, dont say anything about homos :D
Hi WEIBK, Im looking forward to some good news, bodybuilding would be more accepted if it was governed better
This is getting confusing :D
There are now two ABBF's?
One still affiliated to the IFBB, the other run by Paul Chua?
The one affiliated to the IFBB will be able to send their athletes to compete in the IFBB Worlds?
The one run by Paul Chua will be able to send their athletes to any other show run by Paul Chua?
Paul Chua is trying to form an alliance with some Europeans to oust Rafael Santonja?
To make it simple to understand :-
The Original ABBF (Osama Alshafar and Paul Chua) is recognised by the Olympic Council of Asia.
The Fake ABBF (IFBB) is illegal and so is IFBB itself.
Dick could you explain under what law it is illegal?
North Korean. ;D
Well it is part of Asia ;D
Did you know Kim Jong Il once scored 11 hole-in-ones in one game of Golf?
Splendid. ;D ;D
He was also a schmoe that liked musclemen in thongs ;DI guess mean he is like Chick in this respect ;D
He was also a schmoe that liked musclemen in thongs ;D
was?
lol, i heard he died in 2004. ;D ;D
To make it simple to understand :-
The Original ABBF (Osama Alshafar and Paul Chua) is recognised by the Olympic Council of Asia.
The Fake ABBF (IFBB) is illegal and so is IFBB itself.
We may need Chick to take charge here
Wouldn't be much help...out of my jurisdiction and interestThanks for replying Chick
Info taken from Thaibody.com:
According to the organizing committee, bodybuilding world champion Ali Tabrizi from Iran has been confirmed to be competing in the 2009 Multi Asian Championships held in Pattaya, Thailand next month. It is said that this year he will be entering the Super Heavyweight category for the first time.
so you're saying that all of Asia is a single totalitarian state, and you can't even run a local bowling tournament without the official approval of OCA ?
glad I don't live there.
btw, does the OCA give out press releases stating MuscleMania contests are null and void every time one of those are held too?
Seems corruption is rife in Asia?
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?sec=sports&file=/2009/4/20/sports/20090420144828
http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=34613#compstory
so you're saying that all of Asia is a single totalitarian state, and you can't even run a local bowling tournament without the official approval of OCA ?
glad I don't live there.
btw, does the OCA give out press releases stating MuscleMania contests are null and void every time one of those are held too?
this WEIBK-guy is from a totalitarian state, he doesn't know the word freedom it seems.
YOU ARE WRONG, I BELONG TO THE SAAME WORLD WHICH YOU BELONGS. I RESPECT YOUR OPINION.
i seriously doubt that, you cannot follow the simplest rules of behavior here, and your posts reak of a strange sense for free trade.
RESPECT UR OPINION, NO COMMENTS.
MY COMMENT FOR THE 1st SECTION, YES THERE WAS FIGHT FOR THE SEAT, AND THE QATAR CANDIDATE PAID A HUGE AMMOUNT OF MONEY TO WIN THE ELECTION, HE BOUGTH THE VOTES, AND THREATENED ALL ASIAN COUNTRIES THAT HE WILL BAN THOSE COUNTRIES WHICH WILL NOT SUPORT HIM, AND AT THE END HE WIN ONLY BY + 2 VOTES .
THE FOLLOING COUNTRIES WILL PARTICIPATE IN 43rd ASIAN BODYBUILDING & FITNESS CAHMPIONSHIP IN PATTAYA - THAILAND FROM 11th - 17th OF AUGUST 2009.
AFGHANISTAN
BANGLADESH
BHUTAN
BRUNEI DARUSSALAM
CAMBODIA
PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
HONG KONG, CHINA
INDIA
INDONESIA
IRAN
IRAQ
JORDAN
KAZAKHSTAN
KOREA
LAOS
MACAU CHINA
MALAYSIA
MALDIVES
NEPAL
OMAN
PAKISTAN
PHILIPPINES
SINGAPORE
SRI LANKA
SYRIA
CHINESE TAIPEI
TAJIKSTAN
THAILAND
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
VIETNAM
YEMEN
Why is Japan not competing has the JBBF fully jumped ship to IFBB Asia? will the old corpse Tamari still be on ABBF executive committee?
HI SCHMOE BUSTER, I THINK THAT ABBF WILL TAKE SERIOUS ACTION AGIANST THOSE COUNTIRES PARTICIPATED IN MR. ASIA IN INDIA, AND THE OLD TAMARI WILL BE AMONG THEM. I AGREE WITH YOU HE WILL BE FIRED FROM ABBF AFTER GOT GREAT SUPPORT FROM OCA, HE WILL LOSE HIS EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT, AND REMAIN WITH IFBB PATRON AS FAR AS HE PAY TO IFBB FOR THIS HONARY POST.
They did get rid of Tamari the old bag on bones! what about Korea, they competed in IFBB Mr Asia but are listed for ABBF Asian championships?
BUT I WISH THAT THEY MUST BE UNITED, AND FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPT OFFICIALS, BECAUSE THIS WILL EFFECT THE BODYBUILDERS.
you are so hypocritical: IFBB is corrupt because they tried to suspend Chua for corruption.
From: CHUA PAUL <abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Re: PAKISTAN DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE AFBF
To: "Farooq Iqbal" <pakbbf.info@gmail.com>
Cc: "Osama Ahmed Al Shafar" <osama@alshafar.ae>, "Rafael Santonja" <internacional@santonja.com>, "Andrzej MICHALAK" <interbody@home.pl>, "Pawel Filleborn" <p.filleborn@neostrada.pl>, "Mauricio" <mauricio@santonja.com>, "PAMELA" <pkagan@ifbbpro.com>, "Wanda TIERNEY" <wanda.tierney@ukonline.co.uk>, "Dr. Eng. Adel Fahim" <efbb@tedata.net.eg>, "Dr.Eng. Adel Fahim El Sayed" <efbb@link.net>, "Amit Swami India" <navin_rao2007@yahoo.ca>
Date: Thursday, 30 July, 2009, 10:08 PM
Dear Mr. Farooq,
Thank you very much for writing to explain about the dirty tricks of IFBB and AFBF. Rafael, Maurico, William and many others were in Aurangabad, India and they cooked all these recipe of using the names of officials and countries who were not present in their so called " Mr. Asia Dream Championships. "
The Olympic Council of Asia will not recognise this group of dissidents,rebels and opportunists who tried a coup d'e-tat against the legitimate and legally elected ABBF Executive Members in Shanghai, People's Republic of China in the year 2007.
It is a great shame for all their followers. If they are man of conscience and integrity, they should resign and give up their positions in their National Federation and in our Asian Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation. The countries which went to support and form this so called AFBF will be taken to task at this Congress in Pattaya, Thailand. They should resign gracefully as members of the ABBF. They brought shame to their country and athletes.
Thank you for your loyalty and in reporting to us of the false announcement by the IFBB and AFBF claiming that Pakistan was present at their Electoral Congress in Aurangabad, India. They are liars!!!
See you soon
Best wishes
Paul Chua
Secretary-General - ABBF
ps. this will be circulated to all the sports agencies.
--- On Thu, 30/7/09, Farooq Iqbal <pakbbf.info@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Farooq Iqbal <pakbbf.info@gmail.com>
Subject: PAKISTAN DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE AFBF
To: abbfasia@yahoo.com.sg, navin_rao2007@yahoo.ca
Date: Thursday, 30 July, 2009, 8:49 PM
Datuk Paul Chua
Secretary General
Asian Bodybuilding and fitness Federation
Singapure.
Dear Sir,
I was Shocked and alarmed when you telephoned me and asked whether I was presentin Aurangabad, India for theirunlawful assembly of the "Asian Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness (AFBF).
I wish to deny categorically of my presence to support the AFBF and I was not even present. This is misleading and shameful act on the part of the IFBB and the AFBF officials for registering my name as one of their member.
Pakistan Bodybuilding Federation will not associate with any association which is not recognised by the Olympic Councile of Asia.
We confirm that we will attend the Multi-Asian Bodybuilding Championships in Pattaya, Thailand with a team to express our full support behind you and our dear President Osama.
Thank you
Sh. Farooq Iqbal
Secretary eneral
Pakistan Bodybuilding Federation
I really hope the Asian Championships in Pattaya are a great success. Sounds like it will be much more competitive then the comp. in India. If both the IFBB and ABBF would put the good of the Athletes at the forefront of their agenda then this would all work out for the best. I don't see that happening but it would be nice. I'll definitely be following the competition in Pattaya.
Pat
Its all a case of the pot calling the kettle black, all the ABBF seems to be doing is claiming the IFBB is not a federation,not recognized by IOC, running ''iilegal'' contest in India, etc its getting stupid, there is nothing illegal about the IFBB Mr Asia contest, who cares if ABBF is recognized by OCA, bodybuilding will never ever be an Olympic sport, IFBB is still where its at for professional bodybuilding and still the biggest fed worldwide!
How come ABBF dont claim the NABBA,NAC,Musclemania,FAME contests in Asia as being illegal!
Why does'nt the ABBF explain what is so iilegal about the IFBB Mr Asia, why dont they address the reason why they were suspended from the IFBB, allowing 3 Hong Kong bodybuilders to buy their way out of their drug suspensions, where did this money go? how about Chua's relationship with Christina Kam, his mistress and also ABBF member? what about the Milos situation? this needs answering, stop the IFBB is not a real federation BS and get to the truth of the matter ::)
WE NEED NEW FEDERATION INTERNATIONAL AND INTERCOTINETAL TO PROMOTE THE SPORT OF BODYBUILDING.
no, we need multiple organizations. let the free market decide which ones fail and which ones succeed. all athletes should have the right to compete where ever they want when ever they want without repercussion.
THE 43rd ASIAN BODYBUILDING $ FITNESS CHAMPIONSHIP AND ABBF CONGRESS WILL BE IN PATTAYA, FROM 11th - 17th OF AUGUST 2209, ONLY 3 DAYA IS REMAINING.
I can't wait. Should be a very competitive meet. Several former World Champions scheduled to compete. I'll be waiting for all the updates and pics. I'll post all I can find on my Facebook page. (Kuwaitbodybuilding.com) Thanks for all the updates WEIBK.
Pat Turner
DEAR ALL BODYBUILDERS, IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE WILL A GREAT SUPRISE FOR ALL DURING THE 43rd ABBF BODYBUILDING & FITNESS CHAMPIONSHIP IN PATTAYA - THAILAND FROM 11th - 17th OF AUGUST 2009. LET US WAIT AND SEE.
This whole "IFBB vs ABBF" thing is a joke... both organizations are equally corrupt, and it's been a "pot calling the kettle black" contest as each org tries to claim the ethical high ground when in fact neither has the first clue about what ethics are. The other part of the joke is this: people are posting passionately about this on a board that is centered around the American bodybuilding "industry", where no one gives a fuck about either the ABBF or Sanjtoya's "European amateur IFBB".
http://www.alayam.com/Archive/PDF/2009/8/12//Page30.pdf
I'm sure this is interesting info but most of us can't read Arabic. Can you translate for us or at least give us an idea of what the article is about?
http://translate.google.com does a pretty good job
Confirmed the legitimacy of the Asian Federation ..
Ahmed bin Hamad al: Participation of Bahrain are not cheap!
The Secretary-General of the Bahrain Olympic Committee, Sheikh Ahmed bin Hamad Al Khalifa, Mohammed Abdul Rahim, the participation of the Asian championship in the ninth for the construction of objects, which will be held in Btaya is not recognized by the Bahrain Olympic Committee, noting that participation in the tournament Abdulraheem represent Bahrain and the Bahrain-based physical education and raising weight, but is a person.
He added Sheikh Ahmed bin Hamad al-Rahim to his participation in the event of violating the clear and explicit laws in place in the Olympic Committee and the General Organization for Youth and Sports; that cheap does not follow the legal procedures governing foreign entries for both teams, or for administrative figures, as the cheap is no longer a post of Deputy Executive Chairman of the Asian, because of the re-election of a new board game, pointing out that the Olympic Committee refused to confirm a renewed full participation in the tournament Abdulraheem for violating laws and regulations.
The Sheikh Ahmad bin Hamad al-Rahim, the participation in the tournament mentioned erroneous administrative action is incompatible with the substantial support provided by the Olympic Committee and the General Organization for Youth and Sports for the duration of his presidency of the Federation of Bahrain for Physical Education and weightlifting, which arrived thanks to many important administrative positions at the level of the Asian continent .
The Secretary-General of the Olympic competitions to be held under the umbrella of the International Federation of the game is recognized by the Olympic Committee, he is the International Federation of the legitimacy of the full participation of Member States from various countries of the world, the Asian championship and the ninth to build objects that have been recognized by the Olympic Council of Asia did not receive recognition by the International Federation of the game and the Asian Olympic Council Achtsth oversees the Asian Games collected, such as "masters, games indoor games and Winter Games, beach, etc. ...
The Sheikh Ahmed bin Hamad that the Bahraini Olympic Committee confirm the legitimacy of the Asian Federation for the construction of objects the chairmanship of Sheikh Abdullah bin Rashid Al Khalifa and the Bahrain-based Olympic Committee will provide all forms of support for the successful programs and activities hosted by the Asian Federation aimed to raise the level of the game in the Asian continent would have a positive impact on the process of building the objects of Bahrain.
The Sheikh Ahmed bin Hamad said the electoral process produced by the chair, Sheikh Abdullah bin Rashid of the Asian did not distort any breach of law and that it was held in accordance with legal procedures and under the umbrella of the International Olympic Committee, stressing that Bahrain had been informed of all actions taken at the meeting of the General Assembly and the Olympic Committee, headed by His Highness Sheikh Nasser bin Hamad Al Khalifa's blessing, Sheikh Abdullah bin Rashid Asian high in this position.
According to a post on the Thaibody website World Champion Ali Tabrizi, who was scheduled to compete in Thailand, was forced to pull out due to injury. The same person also stated that an early count of competitors showed 205 individual athletes on the competitor list, versus 159 participating athletes last year. He stated the count may change but nonetheless the event should be bigger and better than previous years.
Pat
Ali probably could'nt get his piss clean in time
I'm thinking he probably never planned on attending the event in the first place. He didn't have enough time to get prepared but they wanted to use his name as a big draw. No facts on that but it seems like something that could have possibly been done to draw more publicity to the Thailand event. Just my opinion.
Pat
And its also very probable that he could'nt get his piss clean in time, after all Chua has done nothing but complain about the IFBB lack of drug testing so he needs to put up now, Pat dont tell me your as delusional as Musclecenter and think all Asian bodybuilders are natural ::)No, I'm not that naive but that's something I've just learned to accept and actually at this point I don't really care about that part of it. I'm a bodybuilder. Even though I'm non competitive I'm still a bodybuilder and if God is willing I'll never stop doing it. I love the sport and along with that I love the competitions. Yeah, I wish there was a way to even the playing field but until that time I still appreciate a good competition with top quality and conditioned athletes. The more competitive the better. You may be right about Tabrizi not being able to get clean but athletes at his level and with the backing he has, I think it was probably the fact that he never planned to attend. Hell, has anyone seen anything recent from Tabrizi. I was surprised as hell when I heard he was scheduled to attend in the first place. Guys like that just don't decide to compete on short notice like that. It takes them time to get into top condition (not to mention get clean). Anyway, that's just my 2 cents.
No, I'm not that naive but that's something I've just learned to accept and actually at this point I don't really care about that part of it. I'm a bodybuilder. Even though I'm non competitive I'm still a bodybuilder and if God is willing I'll never stop doing it. I love the sport and along with that I love the competitions. Yeah, I wish there was a way to even the playing field but until that time I still appreciate a good competition with top quality and conditioned athletes. The more competitive the better. You may be right about Tabrizi not being able to get clean but athletes at his level and with the backing he has, I think it was probably the fact that he never planned to attend. Hell, has anyone seen anything recent from Tabrizi. I was surprised as hell when I heard he was scheduled to attend in the first place. Guys like that just don't decide to compete on short notice like that. It takes them time to get into top condition (not to mention get clean). Anyway, that's just my 2 cents.
Pat
Chua and his gang might have offered Ali money to enter, Ali might be better off sticking with the IFBB if he has further ambitionsSounds almost like something chick would do
According to a post on the Thaibody website World Champion Ali Tabrizi, who was scheduled to compete in Thailand, was forced to pull out due to injury. The same person also stated that an early count of competitors showed 205 individual athletes on the competitor list, versus 159 participating athletes last year. He stated the count may change but nonetheless the event should be bigger and better than previous years.
Pat
THE FOLLOWING COUNTRIES PARTICIPATED IN ABBF CHAMPIONSHIP IN PATTAYA:
1.AFGHANISTAN
2.BANGLADESH
3.BHUTAN
4.BRUNEI
5.CAMBODIA
6.CHINA
7.CHINA HONG KONG
8.CHINA MACAU
9.CHINESE TAIPEI
10.INDIA
11.INDONESIA
12.IRAN
13.IRAQ
14.JORDON
15.KAZAKHSTAN
16.MALYSIA
17.MALDIVES
18.MAYNAMAR
19.NEPAL
20.OMAN
21.PAKISTAN
22.PHILLIPPINES
23.SINGAPORE
24.SYRIA
25.THAILAND
26.TAJIKSTAN
27.UAE
28.VIETNAM
29.YEMEN
30.SAUDI ARABIA
WITH TOTAL OF 270 ATHELETES PARTICIPATED IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP.
TEAM CHAMPION: IRAN 1st, UAE 2nd, AND THE HOSTING COUNTRY THAILAND 3rd.
ALL THE ABOVE COUNTRIES RESIGNED FROM THE IFBB, AND JOINED THE NEW WORLD BODYBUILDING PHYSIQUE SPORT FEDERATION ( WBPF ), AND MR. PHILP HOPE - PRESIDENT OF SOUTH PACIFIC, AND IFBB VICE PRESIDENT RESIGNED FROM IFBB AND WILL JOIN THE NEW FEDERATION.
MR. AXEL FRO AUSTRIA WITH 6 COUNTRIES JOINED FROM EUORPE, AND ANOTHER 5 COUNTRIES FROM AFRICA, AND THE 1st CHAMPIONSHIP WILL BE IN DUBAI - UAE FROM 3rd - 8th NOVEMBER 2009.
PLEASE VISIT FOR FURTHER INFORMATION: WWW.WBPSF.ORG.
WEIBK,
Are you sure that Saudi Arabia participated. I didn't recall seeing any Saudi athletes or reading anything about them. I'm familiar with a couple of the Saudi competitors and haven't heard that they were participating in this event. Thanks for the info anyway.
Pat
DEAR PAT. ALI DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE ABBF EVENT, NOT BECAUSE HE WAS INJURED, BUT HE WAS PROMISSED BY RAFAEL THAT HE WILL NOT GET HIS PRO IF HE PARTICIPATE AS WILL AS THE QATAR BB FEDERATION WANT HIM BACK TO QATAR.
IRAN FEDERATION HAS 100S OF ALI TABRIZI, AND AS I SAW THE CHAMPIONSHIP VEDIO, AS WILL AS THE PICTURES, THERE WAS SO MANY NEW FACES, AND THEY WILL BEAT ALI VERY EASY.
sorry for simon ... he is a nice guy
seemd like IFBB is firing back
Again Ali is the only guy to win the Overall twice no one else has done that
nor do I think anyone else will do so anytime soon
by him making a smart choice to get in the pro ranks doesnt make him bad guy
well, except for Lou Ferrigno in 1973 and 1974
that's because usually you don't enter it again after winning the overall, or even your class, but to turn pro
just the opposite, it seems that the 'normal' thing to do would be for him to have turned pro long ago. but I'm sure he was making more from his government for competing as an amateur than he could make as a pro.
Lou won the Universe and which had height categories ... the real amateur overall weight class started in 95
talk about convoluting the facts to make your guy look unique.
You can't have it both ways. Either this year is only the 32nd World Amateur Championships, or Ali Tabrizi is not the only person to win it twice.
Simon Chan you are a disgrace, you and Chua have ruined bodybuilding in Hong Kong, thank God for the British legal system of Hong Kong you cant get out of this one >:(
Musclecenter I know you like to beleive Asian bodybuilders are all natural but Im going to tell you Chun Yun To and Andy Wong Kwong-Sun are drug dealing criminals, they spend their days hanging around the gym while dealing drugs at night, oh and its not steroids, these are not illegal in HK, its hard drugs, where do you think Andy got US$10000 from, he dont work, yes this moron spent 10K just so he could compete in the Asian games and finish 10th place, even juiced he cannot do shit, all your Jap heros are on gear too, want me to PM the source! Chun Yun To was given HK$30000 by the government, yes tax payers money, he spent it all on gear probably or his fake hair, yes Chicks Asian comrade in fake hair, the midget should give it back!
Ali you say Chan is a nice guy, so that makes it OK in your book ::) moron!
Oh yes bodybuilding has been kicked out of the East Asia games in HK in December, nice job morons, your greed and slyness has ruined the ''sport'' here ::)
Come on Schmoe, don't candy coat it. Tell us all how you really feel. ;D
up yours Pat, should'nt you be with Ali rubbing oil on Swampi the Cocksmith or something ::)Up mine? :o lol Come on, you can do better than that. Hey man, I'm new here and unlike a lot of the other guys on this board I'm here because I actually love the sport. I'm not here for a pissing contest. Actually, every once in a while, in between all your negative bullshit, you actually have descent, constructive information to contribute. Anyway, enough about that. Tell us some more about Simon Chan and Paul Chua. ;D
Up mine? :o lol Come on, you can do better than that. Hey man, I'm new here and unlike a lot of the other guys on this board I'm here because I actually love the sport. I'm not here for a pissing contest. Actually, every once in a while, in between all your negative bullshit, you actually have descent, constructive information to contribute. Anyway, enough about that. Tell us some more about Simon Chan and Paul Chua. ;D
Pat
Most on this board will say bodybuilding is not a sport!Yea like Chick says bodybuilding isnt a sport...we like Schome Busters negativity here - he's always mixing it up.
And I like my negative bullshit!, if you love this ''sport'' as much as you say you would be angry that greedy little johns are ruining it for people like you by their greed and corruption, this not the only thing they do, it goes far deeper, I just hope the ICAC investigates it deeper, but Simon Chan is looking at a possible jail sentance, if Chua steps foot in Hong Kong again he could be arrested.
But you have to ask yourself what kind of moron spends US$10000(HK$78000) to compete and get 10th place, master criminal ::)
Musclecenter I know you like to beleive Asian bodybuilders are all natural.All natural? I NEVER say and beleive that.
All natural? I NEVER say and beleive that.
Even in Taiwan some of competitive ameteur bodybuilders juiced.
Schmoe Buster: ur the reason we are still around getbig ;D ;D ;DX 2.1
i know Simon Personally and he is a very nice and humble guy ... and very well spoken too ... what he does is non of my business as i am not part of any federation ... but let me put it this way ... as u know all bbers are on drugs ... all officials are parellely in the same league as well and new members who actually want to champion the sport will sooner or later find out the dark side of the federations management
I have been in the sport for a while from wanting to be a part of official committee to knowing what goes on behind the scenes & be disgusted by the unfairness & bribery but nonetheless I never blame the sport for it it is how the people mange it and how it has being done for the past 60+ years if u try to change it u will be alienated and kicked out of the circle
we love u Schmoe Buster
Schmoe Buster: ur the reason we are still around getbig ;D ;D ;D
i know Simon Personally and he is a very nice and humble guy ... and very well spoken too ... what he does is non of my business as i am not part of any federation ... but let me put it this way ... as u know all bbers are on drugs ... all officials are parellely in the same league as well and new members who actually want to champion the sport will sooner or later find out the dark side of the federations management
I have been in the sport for a while from wanting to be a part of official committee to knowing what goes on behind the scenes & be disgusted by the unfairness & bribery but nonetheless I never blame the sport for it it is how the people mange it and how it has being done for the past 60+ years if u try to change it u will be alienated and kicked out of the circle
we love u Schmoe Buster
Wow then i guess that excuses him then ::) maybe you can give that statement as part of his defense when he is tried on Sept. 11th, Im sure with such fantastic character Chan will be set free ::)Chick will help, he helped Tom
It is not only the accepting of bribes but he also swindled government money too, most likely padding his own pockets ::) yet you feel sorry for him, you are a moron or you too are involved in this shit because the only ones who should be given sympathy are the bodybuilders, especially the up and comers, they bust their asses,take all kinds of stuff thats really not good for their health, to be competitive, and then they are kept down, and cheated, but no you feel sorry for the likes of Chan and Chua ::) because they are such ''nice guys'' ::) im sure many of the bodybuilders who were cheated over the years were nice guys too!
Chick will help, he helped Tom
2 gay dudes, all the way 2 gay dudes
The sport is like this bbers knew what they got themselves into when they started competing this operation has been going for over 40 years it doesnt need a brainer to notice but as I motioned before bbers are not bright creatures so they tend to take the path that they despise to get eth glory of wining
Everyone got a screwed or a gift due to this system and lack of transparency in the judging criteria allows them to do so most of the judges in these amateurs shows dont even know what they are looking for yet there is no competency assurance system or refresher for the knowledge they have on judging 95% of the judges still dont know how the whole judging system is carried out or what it says in the constitution they are just judges cause higher authorities want them to be so
So to begin with as bbers are not united nor have a union to be part of all the officials are getting the FRUITS of success and bbers are the tools that they play with around to achieve their personal/ team (officials) objectives and to get over this bbers should start being less selfish and start looking into matter from a business stand point but u, I and all the officials know that this will never happen so things will never change
Dont hate THEH GAME if u r a bad player and that is how it goes for bbers they talk about the sport and what they did and what will do and when they are put down or wrongfully placed they trun to be furious and talk smack about how the system is well he knew what he was getting himself into the 1st place so the moral of it why complain
you are a tool, what are you the ABBF excuse rep, so basically you say its the bodybuilders fault and not the likes of Chan and Chua, we shouldnt blame them for taking bribes,stealing government funds,cheating,breaking the law, etc we should blame the bodybuilders because as you say they are so stupid! and most bodybuilders probably dont realize how the system is when they are getting into it, perhaps the crooks at the ABBF should post the system on their official rules and constitution ::)
Where is WEIBK and Dickmclaren with all their anti IFBB talk and their transparency of ABBF rubbish!
Ali you are such good friends of Chan and Chua yet you sell drugs to bodybuilders who compete in the ABBF which says it has an anti doping policy and is a member of WADA ::)
::)
If bbers had a union sort of system to fight the federations back it might have been a different story but until them this how the Weiders did this is how Santonja/Chua does it and this is how their successors will do it
a union for amatuers? sports federations are already suppose to be union like: you pay yearly dues, elect local officials who are suppose to represent you at the national level. of course these sports federations are all really just (or at least run as if they were) privately held companies. how about just term limits for all executive positions in amateur sports?
you are a tool, what are you the ABBF excuse rep, so basically you say its the bodybuilders fault and not the likes of Chan and Chua, we shouldnt blame them for taking bribes,stealing government funds,cheating,breaking the law, etc we should blame the bodybuilders because as you say they are so stupid! and most bodybuilders probably dont realize how the system is when they are getting into it, perhaps the crooks at the ABBF should post the system on their official rules and constitution ::)HI SCHMOE BUSTER, I AM SORRY FOR THIS DELAY IN RESPOND, THE REASON, I AM OUT OF THE COUNTRY, AND IN USA FOR CPA COURSE, AND THE STUDY VERY HARD7 TOUGH, AND I HAVE NO TIME TO OPEN MY MAILS, I PASSED ONE, AND THE SECOND TEST, I MUST REPEATED, FROM 54 ONLY 2 PASSED THE EXAM.
Where is WEIBK and Dickmclaren with all their anti IFBB talk and their transparency of ABBF rubbish!
Ali you are such good friends of Chan and Chua yet you sell drugs to bodybuilders who compete in the ABBF which says it has an anti doping policy and is a member of WADA ::)
I would agree that there were a lot of great athletes from Iran and there were a lot of new faces but those are new to you as Iran has around 50atheltes in each weight category every year who try to qualify for an international show
They can't beat Ali cause Ali still has very good quality muscle & superior genetics to most of the guys and that is what counts mostly in contest prep ... that is beyond your seeing even though u r a judge and a n executive member of the federation
Again Ali is the only guy to win the Overall twice no one else has done that nor do I think anyone else will do so anytime soon by him making a smart choice to get in the pro ranks doesnt make him bad guy and doesnt put him in a situation that he can be beaten easily as you said the overall winner looked very good but not good enough to beat ali at any condition take a look at his photos from 2001 till now and you will know
HI ALI, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT YOU ARE TOTALY WRONG AND GOT THE WRONG PERSON, I WISH I WAS THE EXECUTIVE MEMBER OF THE FEDERATION, I AM NOT A BODYBUILDER, BUT I LOVE THIS SPORT AND HAVE SO MANY FRIEND FROM MY COUNTRY AND THROUGH ALL OVER THE WORLD. I WAS WRITING IN KAMALAGSAM, BUT AFTER THEY CLOSED THE SITE FOR SOME REASON, NOW I AM WRITING IN THIS RESPECTED WEBSSITE WHICH CALLED GETBIG FORUM.
I AM NOT AGAINST ALI, BUT I AM TALKING ABOUT THE TRUTH, IN 2008 ALI WAS NOT IN HIS PERFORMANCES, AND HE WAS DESERVED THE 3rd PLACE.
JUST ANSWER MY QUESTION WHY ALI DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN ABBF CHAMPIONSHIP IN PATTAYA?????, HE SAID THAT HE IS INJURED , BUT THE WITNESSES TOLD THAT HE WAS IN SHAPE, MOVING ARROUND WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. BUT HE GOT WARNNING FROM HIS BOSS RAFAEL NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP??? IS IT TRUTH OT NOT.