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Seriously, if you think sub-saharan Africans are violent and dangerous you have never experienced North Africans. They are much worse.
Our French getbigger friend 'joncole' can confirm this. He is a French police officer. Far more dangerous that Nigerians and Somalians...
Discuss...
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The women are lovely.
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Seriously, if you think sub-saharan Africans are violent and dangerous you have never experienced North Africans. They are much worse.
Our French getbigger friend 'joncole' can confirm this. He is a French police officer. Far more dangerous that Nigerians and Somalians...
Discuss...
So what?
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how safe is Morocco for foreigners for those in the know? i speak Spanish so i can pull off i'm not from the USA.
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how safe is Morocco for foreigners for those in the know? i speak Spanish so i can pull off i'm not from the USA.
Have fun! :D
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WHY...are you scared of Nigerians?? ::)
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WHY...are you scared of Nigerians?? ::)
You like being murdered?
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I find white ppl's perception of certain races/nationalities most peculiar
...Nigerians, hmmm??
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I find white ppl's perception of certain races/nationalities most peculiar
...Nigerians, hmmm??
You must be black.
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You like being murdered?
Where do u live?
You seem like a very intelligent guy...so think about what you're saying before you make sweeping generalisations.
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Where do u live?
You seem like a very intelligent guy...so think about what you're saying before you make sweeping generalisations.
Attacked and assaulted by North Africans 3 times and swindled by them 2 times...
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this done got off track. Monaco?
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Attacked and assaulted by North Africans 3 times and swindled by them 2 times...
Please write some details about the attacks and swindling episodes
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Please write some details about the attacks and swindling episodes
I will tomorrow. Hitting the hay I reckon, quite late here.
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Where do u live?
You seem like a very intelligent guy...so think about what you're saying before you make sweeping generalisations.
he is right
fuck all y'all
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they are outbreeding the french, german, italian, spaniards... they ll outbreed you too.
wether they are black or arab, they are worthless. only 1 out of 10 come to integrate and work while the others 9 come/came for their revenge over the white's colonialist.
You english speaking europeons should move to canada quick (like i did). It's going to get ugly in europe when the multiculturalist lie will implode and the third world immivaders will outnumber the whiteys.
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Come with me to ze Casbah.
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Speaking from a strictly upper-middle-class American perspective, who fuccking cares? Neither Nigerians nor North Africans would be anywhere near my neighborhood or workplace, and it's not like I'd be hanging out anyplace they are likely to be. If they get out of line and do stray across my path, that's what the police are for, and if for whatever reason the police don't get there fast enough, that's why I support and exercise my second amendment rights.
These guys (like that Russian douchebag the other night) talk about how "tough" they are and how "weak" Americans and Europeans are, but the bottom line is I don't care how tough you are in your shithole ghetto... you'll never see me in it.
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Speaking from a strictly upper-middle-class American perspective, who fuccking cares? Neither Nigerians nor North Africans would be anywhere near my neighborhood or workplace, and it's not like I'd be hanging out anyplace they are likely to be. If they get out of line and do stray across my path, that's what the police are for, and if for whatever reason the police don't get there fast enough, that's why I support and exercise my second amendment rights.
These guys (like that Russian douchebag the other night) talk about how "tough" they are and how "weak" Americans and Europeans are, but the bottom line is I don't care how tough you are in your shithole ghetto... you'll never see me in it.
the point of socialism , political correctness and multiculturalism is to get these people in your neighborhood, precisely.
Maybe you wont see it, your kids/grandkids will.
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the point of socialism , political correctness and multiculturalism is to get these people in your neighborhood, precisely.
Maybe you wont see it, your kids/grandkids will.
Which is why I vote republican every time, regardless of my disgust for the religious right.
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Which is why I vote republican every time, regardless of my disgust for the religious right.
absa-fucking-lootly
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north african = the male is very tricky, violent, stoler and lazy by nature but not really courageous, only attack you if they are more than 4/5, when he's alone the north african is a quiet and timid thing.
Always using the community chest "you're racist", and protected by socialist politic, who give him money to built mosquee, and create law to ban the pig food from school.
african: our african or black have no common point with black american. Our black just come from africa, they're savage, and over 10 time more violent than north african, and in the french ghetto they chase the north african in drug traffic, the town where i work it happen, it's the war and north african look like sissy compare to african.
It seems that african have no real interest in life, no law, they are impossible to control, waisting the day to lazy thing, making children and like north african, always play the community chest card "i'm a proud descendant of slave", the fact is that real descendant of slaves are in usa, for most they are polygame.
all these people HATE white people, we are pig slaverist colonialist etc etc...
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north african = the male is very tricky, violent, stoler and lazy by nature but not really courageous, only attack you if they are more than 4/5, when he's alone the north african is a quiet and timid thing.
Always using the community chest "you're racist", and protected by socialist politic, who give him money to built mosquee, and create law to ban the pig food from school.
african: our african or black have no common point with black american. Our black just come from africa, they're savage, and over 10 time more violent than north african, and in the french ghetto they chase the north african in drug traffic, the town where i work it happen, it's the war and north african look like sissy compare to african.
It seems that african have no real interest in life, no law, they are impossible to control, waisting the day to lazy thing, making children and like north african, always play the community chest card "i'm a proud descendant of slave", the fact is that real descendant of slaves are in usa, for most they are polygame.
all these people HATE white people, we are pig slaverist colonialist etc etc...
Fantastic post! Debussey = glad to see honesty instead of political correctness 8)
Another indication of the global failure of Africans. As a group they come out lowest of all "races" when it comes to educational, financial and "stay the fuck out of jail" matters.
It might have something to do with the fact that africans have lower IQ's than any other race around (even though there = variations within this group, SubSahara fuckers = IQ69, african americans = avg.IQ85, they are all bottom-dwellers)) and higher testo levels, which means they are both stupid and impulsive.
As most researchers within psychology agree upon: Intelligence = 40-80% genetics, and testo levels = certainly very strongly influenced by genetics as well. In other words: The avg. black might have poor DNA for functioning in a "non-savage" society.
Please fill in on this Mazi.
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Seriously, if you think sub-saharan Africans are violent and dangerous you have never experienced North Africans. They are much worse.
Our French getbigger friend 'joncole' can confirm this. He is a French police officer. Far more dangerous that Nigerians and Somalians...
Discuss...
In Israel over a third of the country is Morrocan (or of direct Morrocan origin), they are VERY loud, obnoxious, pretty dumb, and have the hottest tempers I've ever seen, damn they'd start a fight with a brick wall if they could.
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In Israel over a third of the country is Morrocan (or of direct Morrocan origin), they are VERY loud, obnoxious, pretty dumb, and have the hottest tempers I've ever seen, damn they'd start a fight with a brick wall if they could.
Good thing the future belongs to the über-intelligent man (unless some natural catastrophy wipes us out in the next decades).
8)
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I travel the deepest corners of the world raising my American flag and exposing my pasty white skin to those who are simply jealous that they were not born with such fortunate circumstances...
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Fantastic post! Debussey = glad to see honesty instead of political correctness 8)
Another indication of the global failure of Africans. As a group they come out lowest of all "races" when it comes to educational, financial and "stay the fuck out of jail" matters.
It might have something to do with the fact that africans have lower IQ's than any other race around (even though there = variations within this group, SubSahara fuckers = IQ69, african americans = avg.IQ85, they are all bottom-dwellers)) and higher testo levels, which means they are both stupid and impulsive.
As most researchers within psychology agree upon: Intelligence = 40-80% genetics, and testo levels = certainly very strongly influenced by genetics as well. In other words: The avg. black might have poor DNA for functioning in a "non-savage" society.
Please fill in on this Mazi.
Thanks debussey !!! i think it's good to be critical but not sinking in primary racism, i'm realist, not racist, just telling the truth.
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I travel the deepest corners of the world raising my American flag and exposing my pasty white skin to those who are simply jealous that they were not born with such fortunate circumstances...
and for speaking with a lot of black and north african, they consider that you were born with fortunate circumstances because your ancestry stole Africa.
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In Israel over a third of the country is Morrocan (or of direct Morrocan origin), they are VERY loud, obnoxious, pretty dumb, and have the hottest tempers I've ever seen, damn they'd start a fight with a brick wall if they could.
we quite have the experience with these people here in holland ::)
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we quite have the experience with these people here in holland ::)
People from Marocco forming drug gangs for example?
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People from Marocco forming drug gangs for example?
in france people from north africa rules the cannabis and weed market.
african rules the cocaine market.
turkish= heroine
white= working, shut up pay taxes.
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in france people from north africa rules the cannabis and weed market.
african rules the cocaine market.
turkish= heroine
white= working, shut up pay taxes.
Well, in other words these people = the parasites of society.
It won't last forever.
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Well, in other words these people = the parasites of society.
It won't last forever.
not all of course, a minority really loves france, work, are ok, and practise islam on a moderate way...
but a majority are parasite and haters, at a point you even couldn't imagine.
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yes they are a plague overhere. 9 out of 10 times we can quess the ethnicity of crime commiters correctly. a fairly large proportion of the morrocan youth has been involved into crime.
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yes they are a plague overhere. 9 out of 10 times we can quess the ethnicity of crime commiters correctly. a fairly large proportion of the morrocan youth has been involved into crime.
And regular people hates these fuckers with a passion now, right? Debussey read something about native Duchmen torching mosques some months ago.
not all of course, a minority really loves france, work, are ok, and practise islam on a moderate way...
but a majority are parasite and haters, at a point you even couldn't imagine.
The vermin are shooting themselves in the feet on a long term basis.
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And regular people hates these fuckers with a passion now, right? Debussey read something about native Duchmen torching mosques some months ago.
The vermin are shooting themselves in the feet on a long term basis.
cant recall the mosque incident but could be right.
the very weird thing is that we never hear a bad thing about some other ethnicitys like chinese people, its like its in their genes or something.
somehow these people cant deal with freedom and needs someone like Saddam to have control about them. these parasites drive the most expensive cars have the latest technology though still whine about how they get discriminated and stuff. its like they love to vicitimize themselves. they hate the west but cant go without taking the fruits from them.
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cant recall the mosque incident but could be right.
the very weird thing is that we never hear a bad thing about some other ethnicitys like chinese people, its like its in their genes or something.
somehow these people cant deal with freedom and needs someone like Saddam to have control about them. these parasites drive the most expensive cars have the latest technology though still whine about how they get discriminated and stuff. its like they love to vicitimize themselves.
Debussey bets that within 10-15 years, we'll have data that confirms this 8)
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2001-2002 I live in France for a year. 8 months in Nantes and 4 in Paris.
During that time I was attacked 3 times by North Africans (Morrocans, Algerians and Tunesians) and swindled and threatened twice.
To begin with the threats, both incidents involved being in 2 separate call shops where I needed to go to make some phone calls. Both times involved the North Africans working there charging me far, far, far more for my calls than was the case. Calls that were only 3 or 4 Euros worth they claimed were 50 euros or more and when I told them it was impossible they threatened me and told me they would bring in some 'muscle' if I didn't pay the supposed money I owed them. The first time it happened, I thought it was a fluke, the second time I recognised a pattern.
As for the direct violence, the first time Some friends of mine and I were heading back home from the pub and all of a sudden a beer bottle nearly hits one of my friends, so there they were a bunch of North Africans in a car having fun at our expense, they chased us round the streets throwing bottles at us, one of my friends got hit in the head and received a minor injury. They backed off when the police appeared to be coming.
Second time I was walking home from a friend's place and group of them (6) surrounded me and accosted me. They pinned me to a wall stole my wallet and got some blows in at me, turns out later I had a mild concussion.
Third time I was leaving the gare de l'est and there were these North Africans 'selling books'. One of them came over directly to me and almost dragged me over to the stand, insisting I look at the stuff there and buy something. I refused and left. Turns out, he sent 2 guys to follow me as I was leaving, as I ducked into a store, hoping they would be gone, they suprised be later in small street and pulled knives on me. Luckily just as something was going to happen a large group of people were heading our way, so I took this as a cue to run like I never ran before and got the hell out of there.
That happened to me.
A friend of mine living in Brussels at the time had his flat broken into by North Africans, who tied him up and beat him to a pulp, stole numerous thing and openly made threats (probably just to scare him) about murdering him. He had to be hospitalised for weeks afterwards.
More recently another friend of mine in Germany was sharing a flat with a bunch of people, 2 of which were North Africans who apparently hadn't paid rent for over 3 months despite my friend being very polite about it. When they were confronted about it one of them threw a bottle at him and threatened him with violence. Eventually the police had to get involved. Needless to say, it was a big mess.
They used to be almost only in France, now they are everywhere. Very sad.
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we quite have the experience with these people here in holland ::)
How did the North Africans invade Holland Mars?
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scary thread.
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In Israel over a third of the country is Morrocan (or of direct Morrocan origin), they are VERY loud, obnoxious, pretty dumb, and have the hottest tempers I've ever seen, damn they'd start a fight with a brick wall if they could.
How the fuck did they get there? ???
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sick experencies there Deicide. two times my motorbike was stolen out of the garden by these scum.
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sick experencies there Deicide. two times my motorbike was stolen out of the garden by these scum.
Yeah, but how the hell did they get to Holland? I mean, Holland never had any historical relationship with North Africa?!
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2001-2002 I live in France for a year. 8 months in Nantes and 4 in Paris.
During that time I was attacked 3 times by North Africans (Morrocans, Algerians and Tunesians) and swindled and threatened twice.
To begin with the threats, both incidents involved being in 2 separate call shops where I needed to go to make some phone calls. Both times involved the North Africans working there charging me far, far, far more for my calls than was the case. Calls that were only 3 or 4 Euros worth they claimed were 50 euros or more and when I told them it was impossible they threatened me and told me they would bring in some 'muscle' if I didn't pay the supposed money I owed them. The first time it happened, I thought it was a fluke, the second time I recognised a pattern.
As for the direct violence, the first time Some friends of mine and I were heading back home from the pub and all of a sudden a beer bottle nearly hits one of my friends, so there they were a bunch of North Africans in a car having fun at our expense, they chased us round the streets throwing bottles at us, one of my friends got hit in the head and received a minor injury. They backed off when the police appeared to be coming.
Second time I was walking home from a friend's place and group of them (6) surrounded me and accosted me. They pinned me to a wall stole my wallet and got some blows in at me, turns out later I had a mild concussion.
Third time I was leaving the gare de l'est and there were these North Africans 'selling books'. One of them came over directly to me and almost dragged me over to the stand, insisting I look at the stuff there and buy something. I refused and left. Turns out, he sent 2 guys to follow me as I was leaving, as I ducked into a store, hoping they would be gone, they suprised be later in small street and pulled knives on me. Luckily just as something was going to happen a large group of people were heading our way, so I took this as a cue to run like I never ran before and got the hell out of there.
That happened to me.
A friend of mine living in Brussels at the time had his flat broken into by North Africans, who tied him up and beat him to a pulp, stole numerous thing and openly made threats (probably just to scare him) about murdering him. He had to be hospitalised for weeks afterwards.
More recently another friend of mine in Germany was sharing a flat with a bunch of people, 2 of which were North Africans who apparently hadn't paid rent for over 3 months despite my friend being very polite about it. When they were confronted about it one of them threw a bottle at him and threatened him with violence. Eventually the police had to get involved. Needless to say, it was a big mess.
They used to be almost only in France, now they are everywhere. Very sad.
These people have nothing to do in a western society. Nothing.
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How the fuck did they get there? ???
Large numbers of Jews came to Israel from Morocco in the 1950's (about half a million)...there's now about 2.8million of them, due to high birth rates. A lot are very nice, and i get on with a few of them, but they really really piss me off sometimes. They had a bad lot, since the ashkenazim in the 50's and 60's were very racist towards them, forcibly treating them as an underclass. As a result they tend to do very badly in school (in many cases worse than the arab kids), but it's no excuse for the fact that many of them behave like absolute morons, like i said many are bad tempered, shout loudly, spit in the street, and will rip you off in a second if they think you're not local.
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These people have nothing to do in a western society. Nothing.
They used to only be France, now they are everywhere.
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Large numbers of Jews came to Israel from Morocco in the 1950's (about half a million)...there's now about 2.8million of them, due to high birth rates. A lot are very nice, and i get on with a few of them, but they really really piss me off sometimes. They had a bad lot, since the ashkenazim in the 50's and 60's were very racist towards them, forcibly treating them as an underclass. As a result they tend to do very badly in school (in many cases worse than the arab kids), but it's no excuse for the fact that many of them behave like absolute morons, like i said many are bad tempered, shout loudly, spit in the street, and will rip you off in a second if they think you're not local.
Sad stuff.
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They used to only be France, now they are everywhere.
Especially Somalians are showing similar behavioral patterns in Norway.
These people = simply different, and can not be taken into western countries in large quantities. Where they are found in large concentrations, they tend to make those parts into "mini versions" of their homelands. They have neither the culture nor brainpower to stay.
And lets face it: Culture is one of the hardest things to "take out" of a person. A few years of "integration" ain't gonna change the basic way these people are taught to see the world and behave.
And of course: They have ridiculously low IQ's.
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2001-2002 I live in France for a year. 8 months in Nantes and 4 in Paris.
During that time I was attacked 3 times by North Africans (Morrocans, Algerians and Tunesians) and swindled and threatened twice.
To begin with the threats, both incidents involved being in 2 separate call shops where I needed to go to make some phone calls. Both times involved the North Africans working there charging me far, far, far more for my calls than was the case. Calls that were only 3 or 4 Euros worth they claimed were 50 euros or more and when I told them it was impossible they threatened me and told me they would bring in some 'muscle' if I didn't pay the supposed money I owed them. The first time it happened, I thought it was a fluke, the second time I recognised a pattern.
As for the direct violence, the first time Some friends of mine and I were heading back home from the pub and all of a sudden a beer bottle nearly hits one of my friends, so there they were a bunch of North Africans in a car having fun at our expense, they chased us round the streets throwing bottles at us, one of my friends got hit in the head and received a minor injury. They backed off when the police appeared to be coming.
Second time I was walking home from a friend's place and group of them (6) surrounded me and accosted me. They pinned me to a wall stole my wallet and got some blows in at me, turns out later I had a mild concussion.
Third time I was leaving the gare de l'est and there were these North Africans 'selling books'. One of them came over directly to me and almost dragged me over to the stand, insisting I look at the stuff there and buy something. I refused and left. Turns out, he sent 2 guys to follow me as I was leaving, as I ducked into a store, hoping they would be gone, they suprised be later in small street and pulled knives on me. Luckily just as something was going to happen a large group of people were heading our way, so I took this as a cue to run like I never ran before and got the hell out of there.
That happened to me.
A friend of mine living in Brussels at the time had his flat broken into by North Africans, who tied him up and beat him to a pulp, stole numerous thing and openly made threats (probably just to scare him) about murdering him. He had to be hospitalised for weeks afterwards.
More recently another friend of mine in Germany was sharing a flat with a bunch of people, 2 of which were North Africans who apparently hadn't paid rent for over 3 months despite my friend being very polite about it. When they were confronted about it one of them threw a bottle at him and threatened him with violence. Eventually the police had to get involved. Needless to say, it was a big mess.
They used to be almost only in France, now they are everywhere. Very sad.
Happened to me when i lived in France, in a place called Cergy Pontoise...my place got cleaned out by a bunch of north african dudes.
Last year my parents were staying in south of france when in the middle of the night to North Africans broke in and stole stuff...one punched my dad in the face...really classy since he is 63 years old >:(
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http://rutube.ru/tracks/1748454.html?v=51519dbe4b6991d19704fb38dfe5423e
it happens in france today, at 00.26 the black biatch say "it's only for black here"
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And of course: They have ridiculously low IQ's.
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lol
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Happened to me when i lived in France, in a place called Cergy Pontoise...my place got cleaned out by a bunch of north african dudes.
Last year my parents were staying in south of france when in the middle of the night to North Africans broke in and stole stuff...one punched my dad in the face...really classy since he is 63 years old >:(
North Africans=very dangerous, perhaps degenerate. That story doesn't surprise me at all.
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From my experiences bouncing for many years
Nigerians: Harmless idiots who think they are from Los Angeles,try talk like puff daddy
Somalians: Dangerous girls,carry knives a lot
Algerians/Morrocons/Tunisians: More domesticated than Nigerians,etc,violent and seedy
Irish: Dumb fucks who put it up to you then hide behind police when they get whats coming to them
Welsh: Massive,cool guys,fond of alcohol but no bother
Turks: As Algerians above
Polish: Tough as fuck,all naturally strong,well into their vodka
English: Depends on what part they are from
Chinese: Very quiet,no problem at all
Scottish: Similar to welsh,except glasweigans who are nasty fuckers
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http://rutube.ru/tracks/1748454.html?v=51519dbe4b6991d19704fb38dfe5423e
it happens in france today, at 00.26 the black biatch say "it's only for guy here"
Interestingly, when those kids grow up, the assholes will end up in the gutter or shot dead in drugdeals, while the other kids will become successful.
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North Africans=very dangerous, perhaps degenerate. That story doesn't surprise me at all.
due to the fact that in their original country you get married with a cousin or very near family to keep the buisness in family.
most of people from north africa i arrest, when you ask the name he said "ahmed" (for example) and you ask the name of his mother before she get married with his father he said "ahmed"...you say no , "her name before she get married", he said "yes it's ahmed, they 're cousin".
=consanguinity.
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due to the fact that in their original country you get married with a cousin or very near family to keep the buisness in family.
most of people from north africa i arrest, when you ask the name he said "ahmed" (for example) and you ask the name of his mother before she get married with his father he said "ahmed"...you say no , "her name before she get married", he said "yes it's ahmed, they 're cousin".
=consanguinity.
Hmm...interesting. You think it is inbreeding?
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Hmm...interesting. You think it is inbreeding?
It certainly don't help :D
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It certainly don't help :D
I think it may be hopeless in Europe.
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I think it may be hopeless in Europe.
Now you're thinking of Europe as "one thing" again :D
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Now you're thinking of Europe as "one thing" again :D
We have more in common with each other (individual countries) than we ever will with North Africans/Nigerians and Muslims.
Our traditions have been hard won and fought for, paid for with the blood of our ancestors; the Enlightenment is our bond.
These other people have no such bond.
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We have more in common with each other (individual countries) than we ever will with North Africans/Nigerians and Muslims.
Our traditions have been hard won and fought for, paid for with the blood of our ancestors; the Enlightenment is our bond.
These other people have no such bond.
true, tomorrow i can come in usa and adapt very quickly i think, find yankee friend, train in a yankee gym...
a north african will come, search other north african, stay with them, only live with other north african etc etc
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We have more in common with each other (individual countries) than we ever will with North Africans/Nigerians and Muslims.
Our traditions have been hard won and fought for, paid for with the blood of our ancestors; the Enlightenment is our bond.
These other people have no such bond.
That is true, but Debussey was refering to the fact that you said "I think it may be hopeless in Europe", and this depends on the number of these people, immigration rates ect, which = different for every country.
In some countries it might be pretty close, but not so in many others.
Also remember that the pussy-tendencies shown by many Europeans = starting to change as the problem grows.
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are you saying there should come another holocaust but this time for the mentioned ethnicities in order to fix the problem?
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are you saying there should come another holocaust but this time for the mentioned ethnicities in order to fix the problem?
No. No violence. Deportation maybe.
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That is true, but Debussey was refering to the fact that you said "I think it may be hopeless in Europe", and this depends on the number of these people, immigration rates ect, which = different for every country.
In some countries it might be pretty close, but not so in many others.
Also remember that the pussy-tendencies shown by many Europeans = starting to change as the problem grows.
if you add the birth, the illegal and legal immigration, france (for example) will be muslim and black in 30 years.
netherland and italy seems to be more reactive than rest of europe, white proud is waking up there.
France is plagued by socialist and their "living together", "migration is a right for all" etc etc, even leftist female who fight in the past for the right of abortion, the right for women etc etc are now claiming for the right for muslim women to wear the burka, in the name of "tolerance"...
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are you saying there should come another holocaust but this time for the mentioned ethnicities in order to fix the problem?
;D
A lot of the reason for the slow growth in the opposition towards third-world immigration among europeans around the continent is that the real "backlash" from the mass-immigration the last decades has become common knowledge just in the last years. Even through the news are spreading fast as hell, peoples opinions were totally different just 10-15 years ago, even though the problem was already there.
It's first now that we are starting to see strong reactions against the mass immigration, and the increasing popularity of political parties with anti-immigration policies.
It's horrendous to think like many americans thing, that Eurpeans = a passive weak people" that won't ever change, since the counter-reaction to the "immigration backlash" has just recently began to catch on, and of course it has not gotten enough traction to be reflected in the national policies.
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if you add the birth, the illegal and legal immigration, france (for example) will be muslim and black in 30 years.
netherland and italy seems to be more reactive than rest of europe, white proud is waking up there.
France is plagued by socialist and their "living together", "migration is a right for all" etc etc, even leftist female who fight in the past for the right of abortion, the right for women etc etc are now claiming for the right for muslim women to wear the burka, in the name of "tolerance"...
Birth rates ain't static, and have been shown to decline. Immigration numbers ain't static either, and a buildup of negativity towards immigration is yet to build up properly in the population, which then needs to become reflected in the politics.
Also, remember that the strength of adherence to the religion changes over time among the followers.
If you look at many of these "muslim horror scenarios", they are not based on conservative numbers and does not take change in the variables user over time into consideration. On top of this, they are often mixed with some fear based propaganda.
If anything, these horror scenarios work well to stir up some opposition towards immigration among normal people. 8)
As more people see the destruction caused by immigration, more opposition against immigration and toughness towards muslims already living in the countries will be seen.
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A lot of the reason for the slow growth in the opposition towards third-world immigration among europeans around the continent is that the real "backlash" from the mass-immigration the last decades has become common knowledge just in the last years. Even through the news are spreading fast as hell, peoples opinions were totally different just 10-15 years ago, even though the problem was already there.
It's first now that we are starting to see strong reactions against the mass immigration, and the increasing popularity of political parties with anti-immigration policies.
It's horrendous to think like many americans thing, that Eurpeans = a passive weak people" that won't ever change, since the counter-reaction to the "immigration backlash" has just recently began to catch on, and of course it has not gotten enough traction to be reflected in the national policies.
"european=passive people", for french it's true, in 1939, we were passive people, like say De gaulle "french are calf (veaux)".
yankee got a thing we don't have--- "patriotism", even if in usa it can be excessive, but it's better than nothing.
you will never see a french wearing a t shirt with the french flag printed on it, or claiming he's proud to be a french, it's considered as racism.
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"european=passive people", for french it's true, in 1939, we were passive people, like say De gaulle "french are calf (veaux)".
yankee got a thing we don't have--- "patriotism", even if in usa it can be excessive, but it's better than nothing.
you will never see a french wearing a t shirt with the french flag printed on it, or claiming he's proud to be a french, it's considered as racism.
Might be so, but don't expect even the most rigid culture to stay passive when their fundamental values gets stepped on.
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Might be so, but don't expect even the most rigid culture to stay passive when their fundamental values gets stepped on.
You are our hope.
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Birth rates ain't static, and have been shown to decline. Immigration numbers ain't static either, and a buildup of negativity towards immigration is yet to build up properly in the population, which then needs to become reflected in the politics.
Also, remember that the strength of adherence to the religion changes over time among the followers.
If you look at many of these "muslim horror scenarios", they are not based on conservative numbers and does not take change in the variables user over time into consideration. On top of this, they are often mixed with some fear based propaganda.
If anything, these horror scenarios work well to stir up some opposition towards immigration among normal people. 8)
As more people see the destruction caused by immigration, more opposition against immigration and toughness towards muslims already living in the countries will be seen.
in France islam strike back...
children born in france in 70/90 from north african parent come back to islam, and radical islam,
like my father say (55 years old) i see more and more young arab wearing the barb and jellaba, i didnt' see that 10 years ago.
you can see more and more burka etc etc.
you speak about "strenght adherence to a religion", an arab adhere to the death to islam, you cant joke even a milisecond about islam.
i had two arab friend at my gym ten years ago, normal people, partying, enjoying life, for their study the go to university, with stranger student, the two guy fall in radical islam in one year, the barb etc, even their way to speak changed.
one of them disapear one year, when he come back, he look ten years older, i always believe that he was in a muslim camp somewhere in afganistan...
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You are our hope.
;D
Pretty simple stuff.
In Norway today a few famous politicians went out to forbid hijab in schools! Polls indicate that a majority of Norwegians have problems with it, which is an interesting sign as Norway = very "tolerant" aso.
Recently, there was a fear-monging article run about "Norway might get a muslim majority in 85 years", based upon some poor calculations by a politician from a muslim country. The national cencus agency showed something completely different though (+85 years will not by any means mean muslim majority), and in 85 years, things will have changed so incredibly much anyway that "muslim majority" would be the last of the worries. There are bigger problems (and opportunities) coming than demographic shifts...
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in France islam strike back...
children born in france in 70/90 from north african parent come back to islam, and radical islam,
like my father say (55 years old) i see more and more young arab wearing the barb and jellaba, i didnt' see that 10 years ago.
you can see more and more burka etc etc.
you speak about "strenght adherence to a religion", an arab adhere to the death to islam, you cant joke even a milisecond about islam.
What you are saying might be somewhat true for France (kids born by a muslim parent = automatically considered muslim?), but you need to analyze your premises in detail and figure out how they change over time + interrelate to make any significant guess about the future.
There are many complicating factors out there not included in your reasoning.
Too each their own. Debussey sees far more significant problems in the horizon than moron immigration.
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"european=passive people", for french it's true, in 1939, we were passive people, like say De gaulle "french are calf (veaux)".
yankee got a thing we don't have--- "patriotism", even if in usa it can be excessive, but it's better than nothing.
you will never see a french wearing a t shirt with the french flag printed on it, or claiming he's proud to be a french, it's considered as racism.
I dont think thats true...europeans are just patriotic in different ways...I for one think the whole flag waving thing is a bit gay and redneck...you can be patriotic in your values, which is i think the best way to confront whats happening in europe today
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I dont think thats true...europeans are just patriotic in different ways...I for one think the whole flag waving thing is a bit gay and redneck...you can be patriotic in your values, which is i think the best way to confront whats happening in europe today
Your country is fucked cos ye have no balls
My country,ireland,isnt far behind
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Your country is fucked cos ye have no balls
My country,ireland,isnt far behind
Well once Labour's out we'll get some steel back in I hope.
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Well once Labour's out we'll get some steel back in I hope.
You a giant Labour, you are!
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What you are saying might be somewhat true for France (kids born by a muslim parent = automatically considered muslim?), but you need to analyze your premises in detail and figure out how they change over time + interrelate to make any significant guess about the future.
There are many complicating factors out there not included in your reasoning.
Too each their own. Debussey sees far more significant problems in the horizon than moron immigration.
i live in france everyday, i see it everyday.
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You like being murdered?
;D ;D ;D
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i live in france everyday, i see it everyday.
Vive la France! Vive la crotte de chien! ;D ;)
Il faut la nettoyer des fois, n'est pas? ???
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I'm gonna go wash my hair.....
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I'm gonna go wash my hair.....
You have beautiful, thick hair. :)
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gayer than importing your chocolat from belgium.
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gayer than importing your chocolat from belgium.
Keep that kind of talk to the proper thread please.
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i live in france everyday, i see it everyday.
Nobody denied that.
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You a giant Labour, you are!
Ha ha...i used to campaign for Labour! though last election i actually voted Lib Dem...this time ill be voting conservative even though I think Cameron is a prize plonker. Seriously Labour have taken the piss with how badly they've handled things...particularly this business of immigration, and the ever angry muslim minority. The party is so divided at the moment anyway, they're totally unelectable.
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Ha ha...i used to campaign for Labour! though last election i actually voted Lib Dem...this time ill be voting conservative even though I think Cameron is a prize plonker. Seriously Labour have taken the piss with how badly they've handled things...particularly this business of immigration, and the ever angry muslim minority. The party is so divided at the moment anyway, they're totally unelectable.
Do you think most people in the UK dislikes muslims?
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it's not only about whites, north Africans in Europe despise us* too, they think that we're spoiled and rich for our oil of course. they do stab and rob the shit out of us. they don't really have an Islamic bond or even an Arabian one with us.
i totally agree with the ganging up thingy, they will only attack you in groups.
and I'm not generalizing here...
us*= Asian Arabs, and particularly the gulf area.
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it's not only about whites, north Africans in Europe despise us* too, they think that we're spoiled and rich for our oil of course. they do stab and rob the shit out of us. they don't really have an Islamic bond or even an Arabian one with us.
i totally agree with the ganging up thingy, they will only attack you in groups.
and I'm not generalizing here...
us*= Asian Arabs, and particularly the gulf area.
The interesting thing is that they are totally digging their own grave with this kind of behavior.
Instead of bettering themselves they are alienating people in their surroundings while creating nothing of value to anyone. Ultimately, they become dependent on the tax money from those they hate to survive.
Pretty pathetic to despise others for being "rich" instead of understanding that they got that way from hard work over generations, not by being lazy hateful porch monkeys thinking they are entitled to something without lifting their asses.
Anyway, as technology moves ahead and wealth gets concentrated more and more around those who produce (educated and innovative people), the job opportunities (mainly because technological innovations will take over most of the crap-jobs available too them) and tolerance for them will diminish even more. Eventually, they will only have their sheer number of people as their power factor which won't help them much when they've got little resources and advances in technology will enable the resourceful to have a lot more power than they have today.
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The interesting thing is that they are totally digging their own grave with this kind of behavior.
Instead of bettering themselves they are alienating people in their surroundings while creating nothing of value to anyone. Ultimately, they become dependent on the tax money from those they hate to survive.
Pretty pathetic to despise others for being "rich" instead of understanding that they got that way from hard work over generations, not by being lazy hateful porch monkeys thinking they are entitled to something without lifting their asses.heavy weights, consuming protein and having good genetics.
Anyway, as technology moves ahead and wealth gets concentrated more and more around those who produce (educated and innovative people), the job opportunities and tolerance for them will diminish even more. Eventually, they will only have their sheer number of people as their power factor which won't help them much .
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Do you think most people in the UK dislikes muslims?
I think that's very hard to say...plus I havent lived in england for three years, so I only go by what my friends and familly say, and what I see and read. I have no doubt that people in certain areas dislike PAKISTANIS, as for muslims as a whole i think that's going a bit too far. Having said that, I never knew any british muslims until i actually left england and met them abroad, we just never hung out...didnt live in the same areas, sat on opposite sides of the student union in university.
I dont think people in Britain dislike muslims, they just dislike certain cultural aspects of more conservative Pakistani communities. But right now there is a big problem...the far right are picking up votes every day, and it is because the mainly white working class in the North feel threatened by Islam and let down by Labour.
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Do you think most people in the UK dislikes muslims?
I've seen the large numbers of Arabs, east Asians, and a fairly larger number of Pakis in England.
i would personally not approve of such numbers in my country at all, and i do believe it is bound that they would cause problems no matter the ethnicity/religion/country. but at the end of the day, they (Europe) obviously made it possible for them to come and breed.
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Debussey updated its post. Your quote has poor genetics.
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Its very sad how all of you can generalize people and culture without even a clue - most importantly most of you have not even lived with these people to understand or realise where the aggression is from.
I am a black Sub Saharan African and you guessed it very proud to be an African - grew up in Zimbabwe and proud to say that I grew up with whites indians and blacks and they all are the same.
I have moved and live in Canada and you find that people are people despite their race.
Fews things to ponder whether the person is black, african, asian white from where ever, the socio-economics plays a big role in their action/life-style
Education - whether white or black asian if it lacks you find violence drugs gangs - you realise you have the Biker Mafia gangs mostly white killing each other prostitution rings money laundering - drug trafficking then you have the black killing each thruh the same things and reason - gangs. ... ohhh dont foget the asians
And there is an uneducated individual who says Asians are very quiet/mellow - these guys have gangs all over - they kill each other not only the south asians but as well Japanese - Chinese- Koreans.
Read the news today about the violence in China - but not only that try and be more educated by immersing yourself in different cultures and then maybe then you will have a better understanding of the human race
The poor/greedy you are, the more susceptible to all these survivial modes that will drive you to crime and resort to anything.
That being said who in here in their country can say that there is not one of the abovementioned in their society.
Lets leave this shallow general mentallity about the violence - stealing - killing - CAUSE ITS IN ALL SOCIETIES .....[/color][/size]
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Thank`s God we have no them in Eastern Europe yet...well we have Russians :-X
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North Africans are just the mexicans of europe.
Same MO.
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North Africans are just the mexicans of europe.
Same MO.
No, worse. At least Mexican food is top.
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No, worse. At least Mexican food is top.
Don't the NAs eat things like sheep rectum?
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Sink immigrants' boats - Griffin
BBC NEWS
Wednesday, 8 July 2009
The EU should sink boats carrying illegal immigrants to prevent them entering Europe, British National Party leader Nick Griffin has told the BBC.
The MEP for the North-West of England said the EU had to get "very tough" with migrants from sub-Saharan Africa.
Pressed on what should happen to those on board, he said: "Throw them a life raft and they can go back to Libya".
Libya has long been a staging post for migrants from Egypt and sub-Saharan Africa wanting to reach Europe.
Nearly 37,000 immigrants landed on Italian shores last year, an increase of about 75% on the year before.
But with the prospect of a new immigration and asylum policy being voted on this autumn by MEPs, Mr Griffin is advocating measures to destroy boats used by illegal immigrants to reach the EU's southern coastline.
'Combating the flow'
In an interview with this week's edition of BBC Parliament's The Record Europe, he said: "If there's measures to set up some kind of force or to help, say the Italians, set up a force which actually blocks the Mediterranean then we'd support that.
"But the only measure, sooner or later, which is going to stop immigration and stop large numbers of sub-Saharan Africans dying on the way to get over here is to get very tough with those coming over.
"Frankly, they need to sink several of those boats.
"Anyone coming up with measures like that we'll support but anything which is there as a 'oh, we need to do something about it' but in the end doing something about it means bringing them into Europe' we will oppose."
The interviewer, BBC Correspondent Shirin Wheeler, said: "I don't think the EU is in the business of murdering people at sea."
Mr Griffin replied: "I didn't say anyone should be murdered at sea - I say boats should be sunk, they can throw them a life raft and they can go back to Libya.
"But Europe has sooner or later to close its borders or its simply going to be swamped by the Third World."
In May, the Italian government gave Libya three patrol boats as part of a deal aimed at combating the flow of illegal migrants making the crossing to Italy.
Italian Interior Minister Roberto Maroni, a member of the anti-immigration Lega Nord party, hailed the first 200 migrants picked up by the boats and returned to Libya as an "historic" moment.
But human rights groups have raised concerns about Italy sending migrants back to Libya without first screening them for asylum claims or to discover whether they are sick, injured, unaccompanied children or victims of human trafficking.
Libya has no functioning asylum system and is not a party to the 1951 UN convention relating to the status of refugees.
'Influence'
Separately Mr Griffin, who will next week formally take up his seat in Brussels, has admitted that the BNP has failed to convince other like-minded parties to form an alliance in the new European Parliament.
Talks with France's Front National, Lega Nord, and other groups fell apart, with Lega Nord now joining the new Europe of Freedom and Democracy group, led by Britain's UK Independence Party.
Mr Griffin told The Parliament.com: "We needed at least 25 members from seven different member states to form a group. There is no doubt that we would have been able to wield a lot more influence if we could have formed a group.
"No one was prepared to commit themselves knowing that we had not got Lega Nord on board.
"Even so, we will continue to work together with these other groups and share ideas. We will have less access to things like speaking time and committee votes but it's too bad."
The BNP advocates British withdrawal from the European Union and an end to all immigration to the UK and last month won its first two seats in the European Parliament.
Mr Griffin and the party's other recently-elected MEP Andrew Brons will sit in the "non-attached" section of the Parliament, which means they will be entitled to less administrative and financial support.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8141069.stm