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Title: BBC: 'Time to ditch climate policies' (Cap & Trade wont work)
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2009, 12:49:01 PM
BBC: 'Time to ditch climate policies'

BBC ^ | Tuesday, 7 July 2009 14:46 UK 13:46 GMT, | Roger Harrabin Environment analyst, BBC News


Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:22:22 AM by Ernest_at_the_Beach


An international group of academics is urging world leaders to abandon their current policies on climate change.

Policies are failing to decarbonise economies, the report says


The authors of How to Get Climate Policy Back on Course say the strategy based on overall emissions cuts has failed and will continue to fail.

They want G8 nations and emerging economies to focus on an approach based on improving energy efficiency and decarbonising energy supply.

Critics of the report's recommendations say they are a dangerous diversion.

The report is published by the London School of Economics' (LSE) Mackinder Programme and the University of Oxford's Institute for Science, Innovation & Society.

LSE Mackinder programme director Gwyn Prins said the current system of attempting to cap carbon emissions then allow trading in emissions permits had led to emissions continuing to rise.

He said world proposals to expand carbon trading schemes and channel billions of dollars into clean energy technologies would not work.


"The world has been recarbonising, not decarbonising," Professor Prins said.

"The evidence is that the Kyoto Protocol and its underlying approach have had and are having no meaningful effect whatsoever.

"Worthwhile policy builds upon what we know works and upon what is feasible rather than trying to deploy never-before implemented policies through complex institutions requiring a hitherto unprecedented and never achieved degree of global political alignment."


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Call your Senators and stop Cap & Trade
Title: Re: BBC: 'Time to ditch climate policies' (Cap & Trade wont work)
Post by: shootfighter1 on July 07, 2009, 12:56:09 PM
This isn't surprising to me but glad to hear some real analyses are being done and being publicized.  It feels like this administration has an agenda, regardless of logic or the public's wishes, and then works their expert marketing and advertising skills.
Title: Re: BBC: 'Time to ditch climate policies' (Cap & Trade wont work)
Post by: a_joker10 on July 07, 2009, 01:18:34 PM
Carbon trading is about wealth redistribution . Period.

Everyone involved knows that emissions won't go down or even stabilize.

It is one way to give money to poor countries and people without it being called Aid.
http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/NEWS/0,,contentMDK:21360467~menuPK:34457~pagePK:34370~piPK:34424~theSitePK:4607,00.html
Carbon markets could “expand exponentially” under a post 2012 agreement for curbing greenhouse gas emissions and “deliver financial flows to developing countries of anywhere between US$20 billion to US$120 billion a year,” says Katherine Sierra, vice president for sustainable development.

Such funds are “sorely needed” to supply electricity to people in developing countries, reduce greenhouse gas emissions, put developing countries on a “low carbon development path,” and help them adapt to climate change, she says.

The only way to lessen carbon emissions is to legislate efficiency.

This won't happen because too many jobs are dependent on building inefficient products.

So just remember. Obama and most far left liberals believe in wealth redistribution. As long as its not their wealth.
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/06/cap-and-trade-was-never-about-climate/
Title: Re: BBC: 'Time to ditch climate policies' (Cap & Trade wont work)
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on July 07, 2009, 01:21:13 PM
It's time to invest in anything that will benefit from cap and trade.
Title: Re: BBC: 'Time to ditch climate policies' (Cap & Trade wont work)
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2009, 01:23:58 PM
It's time to invest in anything that will benefit from cap and trade.

I invested in a Saiga 12 today.  Does that count?
Title: Re: BBC: 'Time to ditch climate policies' (Cap & Trade wont work)
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on July 07, 2009, 01:26:49 PM
I invested in a Saiga 12 today.  Does that count?

lol

 sure
Title: Re: BBC: 'Time to ditch climate policies' (Cap & Trade wont work)
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2009, 01:27:46 PM
lol

 sure


What is really disgusting is that people will now make a business out of this phoney bill which is taking tax dollars from taxpayers. 
Title: Re: BBC: 'Time to ditch climate policies' (Cap & Trade wont work)
Post by: a_joker10 on July 07, 2009, 01:35:09 PM
What is really disgusting is that people will now make a business out of this phoney bill which is taking tax dollars from taxpayers. 

How about the biggest Shills are already making billions on it.

Al Gore.
This is common in other countries too.
http://newsbusters.org/node/11149
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/10/03/al-gore-getting-rich-spreading-global-warming-hysteria-media-s-help