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Title: 11oxo
Post by: Big-C on July 09, 2009, 07:15:21 AM

 Has anyone taken a cycle of 11oxo if so let me know..

Title: Re: 11oxo
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on July 09, 2009, 07:17:32 AM

I'm waiting for 12-OXO to come out.

Title: Re: 11oxo
Post by: Luolamies on July 11, 2009, 05:11:27 AM

Quote from: mon_of_steele on July 09, 2009, 07:17:32 AM

I'm waiting for 12-OXO to come out.

hah hah

I actually heard that they're making 13.5 oxo, but that might be too hardcore!

Title: Re: 11oxo
Post by: WOOO on July 11, 2009, 09:37:04 AM

incredible waste of money... anything with a "proprietary" blend in the recipe is usless

Title: Re: 11oxo
Post by: Necrosis on July 11, 2009, 10:47:58 PM

Quote from: WOOO on July 11, 2009, 09:37:04 AM

incredible waste of money... anything with a "proprietary" blend in the recipe is usless

what? its a great product, pat arnold makes very good shit, its hormonal and will drop cortisol quite low, it made my asthma terrible. It is also androgenic and higher doses, what did you want it for?

Title: Re: 11oxo
Post by: Big-C on July 13, 2009, 11:35:28 AM

Quote from: Necrosis on July 11, 2009, 10:47:58 PM

what? its a great product, pat arnold makes very good shit, its hormonal and will drop cortisol quite low, it made my asthma terrible. It is also androgenic and higher doses, what did you want it for?

   using it for strength and cutting body fat

Title: Re: 11oxo
Post by: Pete Nice on July 13, 2009, 11:58:11 AM

11-OXO is a good product for the OTC bodybuilder wanting to preserve as much muscle as possible during a cut.  If your diet is on point, you will notice better pumps and a more hardened look to your physique.  I wouldn't bank on the strength gains being too immense though.  Not because of the supplement, but for the fact that you will be in a restricted caloric state.

Title: Re: 11oxo
Post by: Necrosis on July 13, 2009, 12:25:19 PM

Quote from: Big-C on July 13, 2009, 11:35:28 AM

   using it for strength and cutting body fat

it is very good at cutting fat, especially VAT, higher doses yield more of an androgenic response.

It is better for cutting then strength and has some nootropic effects.

Title: Re: 11oxo
Post by: Pete Nice on July 13, 2009, 12:30:46 PM

Quote from: Necrosis on July 13, 2009, 12:25:19 PM

it is very good at cutting fat, especially VAT, higher doses yield more of an androgenic response.

It is better for cutting then strength and has some nootropic effects.

Is there anything that you would recommend using with 11-OXO to maximize the effects...like Novedex XT for example?

Title: Re: 11oxo
Post by: Necrosis on July 13, 2009, 01:33:36 PM

Quote from: Pete Nice on July 13, 2009, 12:30:46 PM

Is there anything that you would recommend using with 11-OXO to maximize the effects...like Novedex XT for example?

if i was cutting, and wanted to stay the otc route, the anti estrogen i would use is transdermal formestane. It is a prohormone to hydroxytest, and seems to increase androstendione production as well. I think form is the best anti e around on cycle or as a standalone.


i would do some little things to counteract cortisol as well, like drink small amounts of glucose during training etc..

an anti-e would be a great idea i think.