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Title: high blood pressure
Post by: jayfromeurope on July 11, 2009, 02:30:20 PM
Does anybody know a good medic for high blood pressure while on gear ?

Thanks ;)
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 11, 2009, 03:53:51 PM
Does anybody know a good medic for high blood pressure while on gear ?

Thanks ;)

Your asking for a drug that will lower your BP while you take gear?

To me this sounds like a bad idea.  How high is your BP?
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: jayfromeurope on July 11, 2009, 04:00:06 PM
It's not very high but high I don't have the medical report here but I can tell u later.

So taking a drug that low your BP is not good while on gear ?

Is there any good drug for that (name) ?

Thanks
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 11, 2009, 04:06:18 PM
It's not very high but high I don't have the medical report here but I can tell u later.

So taking a drug that low your BP is not good while on gear ?

Is there any good drug for that (name) ?

Thanks

Well my thoughts are you are taking a drug (steroids), now you need to take another drug because of it?  Most people have slightly elevated BP while on good size cycles.  If yours is only a little high I would not worry too much.


If a doctor told yopu this what did he say?  It makes no sense who told you it was too high?  Did they tell you you need to control it with medication?  Please explain more
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: jtsunami on July 11, 2009, 04:34:11 PM
It's not very high but high I don't have the medical report here but I can tell u later.

So taking a drug that low your BP is not good while on gear ?

Is there any good drug for that (name) ?

Thanks

there are plenty of cheap common ones docs prescribe that will lower it and are cheap with insurance.  It would be better to keep it under control especially if you are doing a long term cycle.

Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: WillGrant on July 11, 2009, 07:39:20 PM
L2H is correct , you only want to use meds if you have BP off gear.

QUINAPRIL is not bad though.
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: jtsunami on July 11, 2009, 10:18:55 PM
L2H is correct , you only want to use meds if you have BP off gear.

QUINAPRIL is not bad though.

if you never go off, you should keep it under control though while on your cycle that isn't ending, high blood pressure is high blood pressure, it is bad for your heart and will make it bigger and stronger not good.

jt
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: WillGrant on July 12, 2009, 03:48:21 AM
if you never go off, you should keep it under control though while on your cycle that isn't ending, high blood pressure is high blood pressure, it is bad for your heart and will make it bigger and stronger not good.

jt
This is also true "if" you are on all the time..then look at meds..no point though if you are doing the 12 week cycle thing and it is the gear that causes the BP problem.
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Exal on July 12, 2009, 04:59:29 AM
low dose aspirin is perfect for treating bloodpressure while on cycle
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: jayfromeurope on July 12, 2009, 06:43:36 AM
low dose aspirin is perfect for treating bloodpressure while on cycle

100mg of aspirin 5 times a weeks ?
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Spike on July 12, 2009, 01:16:03 PM
they but me on lisinopril and that stuff is alright

its an ACE inhibitor - class of BP meds

mine is always high when I go to doc, plus I weigh an assload for over a year now

shits not bad...makes me lightheaded sometimes but I got alot more vascular on it and I dont get headaches and shortness of breath :)
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: jtsunami on July 12, 2009, 11:51:25 PM
they but me on lisinopril and that stuff is alright

its an ACE inhibitor - class of BP meds

mine is always high when I go to doc, plus I weigh an assload for over a year now

shits not bad...makes me lightheaded sometimes but I got alot more vascular on it and I dont get headaches and shortness of breath :)

lisinopril is very common and effective cheap bp med that is used a lot, good stuff, not any sides either that you can really tell.

jt
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Spike on July 13, 2009, 08:34:24 AM
lisinopril is very common and effective cheap bp med that is used a lot, good stuff, not any sides either that you can really tell.

jt

this is true.....I go back in a couple weeks for follow-up

hesitant cause I am sitting on 50mL tren A and 3 boxes anapolans ;D
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Rimbaud on July 13, 2009, 12:31:05 PM
If it's only a little high while on cycle - then in theory it should be fine when you're off. Why take something to lower it when in 10-15 weeks things should be back to normal?
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: shrek on July 14, 2009, 09:25:03 PM
lisinopril is very common and effective cheap bp med that is used a lot, good stuff, not any sides either that you can really tell.

jt
i am on the 20mg pill my BP is what the doc said as borderline high and that was before gear but i had put on a lot of weight fast so that has alot to do with it also
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: jtsunami on July 14, 2009, 11:16:27 PM
i am on the 20mg pill my BP is what the doc said as borderline high and that was before gear but i had put on a lot of weight fast so that has alot to do with it also

well i am sure 20mg should keep it under control while you are on gear.  Wouldn't hurt to check it every 2 weeks or month in the drugs store or super market for fun.

jt
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Luolamies on July 15, 2009, 12:03:01 AM
ENALAPRIL MALEATE, brand name LINATIL is great. I've been using it for three years now. First at 20 mg per day, then 10 mg and now for the last two years 5 mg per day. Mine costs about 5 € for 100 tabs.

If it is just a little high you can take dandelion root, it's a mild herbal diuretic that's cheap and safe.

BTW: I don't want to sound like a dick, but search is a good option and i've given this same advise 4 times now.

PS: Aspirin doesn't really lower BP, at least not i'n me.
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Exal on July 15, 2009, 04:29:26 AM
Aspirin is blood thinning so it will lower bp, UNLESS your bp is water retention related or to some forms of disease
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: gecdds on July 15, 2009, 10:29:45 AM
I am three weeks now post cycle,  two weeks on clomid and nova,  my BP has spiked to a high level that I have never had.  165/100   I was on Deca 200/wk and Sus 500/week.  Pre cycle BP was normal as always.  Could post cycle be causing this or just not long enough post cycle?.  Thank you
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Luolamies on July 15, 2009, 02:10:04 PM
gecdds, get yourself to a doctor ASAP, you're BP is dangerously high. I started taking BP meds when my BP was 160/100 and when i went to the doctor i felt like i was dying. (Some people feel the high BP allmost immediately. Also when you're BP is that high it will skyrocket during weight training, at least in heavier sets and that could cause serious issues. I knew a powerlifter who died because of that and even though he was a big guy, he wasn't fat at all. Trust me man get yourself healthy ASAP and you'll be happy that you did... ;)
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: jayfromeurope on July 15, 2009, 03:55:31 PM
Ok, I took my blood pressure here is the result.

160 syst and 72 dia 160/75.

and my heart beat was 85

What do u think ?
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Alex23 on July 15, 2009, 05:31:43 PM
Ok, I took my blood pressure here is the result.
160 syst and 72 dia 160/75.
and my heart beat was 85
What do u think ?

LOL... this is pretty high my boy.. you shouldn't mess with anabolics...
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: jtsunami on July 15, 2009, 06:35:25 PM
Ok, I took my blood pressure here is the result.

160 syst and 72 dia 160/75.

and my heart beat was 85

What do u think ?

it is high, your bottom number is low, very good, just need top number down about 20 or so.  You arn't going to drop down dead at any time, blood pressure is bad for you over time, the higher it is the harder you heart has to work to push blood, making the heart bigger and eventually getting a heart attack and it can effects vision as well very long down the road.  Having it high for a few months will not be that bad for you, untreated high blood pressure over a lifetime is what causes problems.  Either way I would get to a doc to get on meds and get it controlled, see what he can do, I am sure he will want to put you on meds to get down the top number.

jt
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: jayfromeurope on July 16, 2009, 02:16:12 AM
Thanks for all the help.

I ll keep you update.

A  ;)
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 16, 2009, 12:05:46 PM
Diovan, Attacand, Atenolol are all good.
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Alex23 on July 16, 2009, 01:42:31 PM
Diovan, Attacand, Atenolol are all good.


What are the sides?
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 16, 2009, 02:58:50 PM
What are the sides?

Well that depends on your definition of sides... there are sides that can occur within a certain percentage of people taking the drug, which can be pretty vague and general, and then there are REAL sides that most people taking it will commonly experience. :)
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Alex23 on July 16, 2009, 03:29:05 PM
Well that depends on your definition of sides... there are sides that can occur within a certain percentage of people taking the drug, which can be pretty vague and general, and then there are REAL sides that most people taking it will commonly experience. :)

Yea vague question, vague answer :) ...

What I meant is are there general "duresses" on specific organs that are well known?; ie statins are known to cause liver problems, pain killers are hard on the kidneys... as a cauck can also put some strain on a tight sphincter, somethign of that nature... ;D 
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 16, 2009, 08:29:26 PM
Yea vague question, vague answer :) ...

What I meant is are there general "duresses" on specific organs that are well known?; ie statins are known to cause liver problems, pain killers are hard on the kidneys... as a cauck can also put some strain on a tight sphincter, somethign of that nature... ;D 

I would imagine so, as these drugs lower your blood pressure through various mechanisms... one good thing about lower blood pressure is increased sex drive and blood flow to the sexual organs (this is the mechanism by which viagra works). You're right pain medication is notorious for being hard on the kidneys (a la tom prince/advil) the only real significant side effect I can say I've experienced from blood pressure meds is maybe some slight light headedness that lasted for 30 minutes or so... nothing major.
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: shrek on July 16, 2009, 08:49:04 PM
I would imagine so, as these drugs lower your blood pressure through various mechanisms... one good thing about lower blood pressure is increased sex drive and blood flow to the sexual organs (this is the mechanism by which viagra works). You're right pain medication is notorious for being hard on the kidneys (a la tom prince/advil) the only real significant side effect I can say I've experienced from blood pressure meds is maybe some slight light headedness that lasted for 30 minutes or so... nothing major.

ive been on lisinaapril 20mg for over a year and i havent found anything different other than if i dont take one right a way in the morning i get a lil jittery and my hands will shake
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: jtsunami on July 17, 2009, 12:55:34 AM
this thread has it all, muscle daddy mentoring a young muscle stud, nothing like it, luv it muah!
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: gecdds on July 21, 2009, 09:32:25 AM
Since I wrote last I went to the Dr.  Immediatley.  I stopped Nolva and clomid that day.  BP came down right away.  Dr. added ramipril which is am ACE inhibitor. Now readings are.128/76.  Don't know if it was just the PCT or residual from the cycle.  Thank you for your input.
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Alex23 on July 22, 2009, 01:41:49 AM
Since I wrote last I went to the Dr.  Immediatley.  I stopped Nolva and clomid that day.  BP came down right away.  Dr. added ramipril which is am ACE inhibitor. Now readings are.128/76.  Don't know if it was just the PCT or residual from the cycle.  Thank you for your input.

Hi jayfromeurope. good to see your pressure is down.
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: jtsunami on July 22, 2009, 10:45:50 PM
Hi jayfromeurope. good to see your pressure is down.

jay is good man, and god i would love to lower your testicle pressure any day hunk god fuckin damn!

jt
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: makaveli25 on July 30, 2009, 05:22:28 PM
Ive been on test and tren for 10 weeks checked my blood pressure today. First check was 158/90 not soo good!! Second and third check were 148/80.. I have a doc appointment on tuesday.. I need something cheap on 25 years old. Its a little high off cycle too. What should i ask for.. I was thinking lionspiril or diovan.. Thank you.. I need something im getting headaches the headaches could be from strained neck though. Im supplementing garlic vit c cayeene pepper magiesium and a few others that are all mixed in one supplement that is made for hyperstension but it is not working soo well
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Exal on July 30, 2009, 05:43:52 PM
you should be looking at your diets before you start taking medication for high bp
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 30, 2009, 07:52:42 PM
you should be looking at your diets before you start taking medication for high bp

When on Tren, it doesn't matter...your bp will always be off the charts.

my buddy gets an  average bp reading of about 178/105 when on tren.
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: makaveli25 on July 30, 2009, 11:02:19 PM
Thats kind of what i figured i dont run it too long... I guess you just have to be a little careful while on it
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Alex23 on July 31, 2009, 05:05:17 PM
jay is good man, and god i would love to lower your testicle pressure any day hunk god fuckin damn!

jt


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Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: tbombz on July 31, 2009, 05:36:56 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your jtsunami gimmick is a bit over the top
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Alex23 on July 31, 2009, 05:37:51 PM
your jtsunami gimmick is a bit over the top

If only... jt is a good guys...
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: WillGrant on July 31, 2009, 05:50:14 PM
your jtsunami gimmick is a bit over the top
Makes sence  ;) :D
Title: Re: high blood pressure
Post by: Alex23 on August 01, 2009, 06:29:22 PM
Makes sence  ;) :D

JT, I'm pretty sure will get a high out of this as being "me" or "in" me is pretty close ;D

Seriously he's a pretty cool guy with decent size and good morals.