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Title: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 11, 2009, 08:49:56 PM
Spetznaz, Mossad, USMC Force Recon, Delta.  Unless there's some shit I've never heard of.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: WillGrant on July 11, 2009, 08:51:18 PM
ok? ???
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 11, 2009, 08:51:53 PM
ok? ???

Nothing to say?  Don't post, dingleberry. ;D
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: MB_722 on July 11, 2009, 08:55:08 PM
this topic always interests me. love to read an unbiased report on the top SF
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 11, 2009, 08:58:51 PM
this topic always interests me. love to read an unbiased report on the top SF

Me too.  All respect to SEALs but I've heard consistent views that they are vastly over-rated, mostly due to media hype.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: MB_722 on July 11, 2009, 09:01:36 PM
would also like to read a good report on counter-terrorism squads.

militaryphotos.net would have something
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: WillGrant on July 11, 2009, 09:02:48 PM
Nothing to say?  Don't post, dingleberry. ;D
Was ok not enough for you?  ;D
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 11, 2009, 09:04:39 PM
Was ok not enough for you?  ;D


Not really.  At least come up with a clever, meltdown-inducing insult.

At least I can use that later.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: uberman09 on July 11, 2009, 09:12:31 PM
looks like we have some very young posters on here.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 11, 2009, 09:14:06 PM
looks like we have some very bored posters on here.

fixed
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 11, 2009, 09:14:53 PM
JTF2
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 11, 2009, 09:21:42 PM
these special forces are basically totalmind control human robots so to speak who basically are assasination squads
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 11, 2009, 09:22:33 PM
JTF2

Who wha?
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 11, 2009, 09:24:11 PM
these special forces are basically totalmind control human robots so to speak who basically are assasination squads

No on the robots.  Yes on the assassins.

I know some spec ops guys.  They are def the opposite of robots.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: kiwiol on July 11, 2009, 09:24:29 PM
The SQUAD
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: arce1988 on July 11, 2009, 09:24:50 PM
 FORCE RECON USMC
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 11, 2009, 09:26:34 PM
No on the robots.  Yes on the assassins.

I know some spec ops guys.  They are def the opposite of robots.
you don't get it

the elite are all mind controlled "perfect soldier" type


I'll giveu a link and read about the real superman Andy Pero

if you don't understand just ask me questions

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/projectsuperman1part27oct99.shtml
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: WillGrant on July 11, 2009, 09:26:51 PM
FORCE RECON USMC
Oh you can form words
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 11, 2009, 09:28:09 PM
The SQUAD

lol ;D
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: kiwiol on July 11, 2009, 09:30:21 PM
lol ;D

I see you still remember some of the legendary ownings that were dished out back then 8) ;D
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: uberman09 on July 11, 2009, 09:30:38 PM
No on the robots.  Yes on the assassins.

I know some spec ops guys.  They are def the opposite of robots.

here we go again  ::)



reality check: you ve been watching vids of special forces from all over the world on youtube in the past three hours. Tommorow you ll start a thread about "do you guys think i have what it takes to join the delta forces? "
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 11, 2009, 09:30:49 PM
FORCE RECON USMC
u seem to be a reallife badass

true ?
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 11, 2009, 09:36:57 PM
here we go again  ::)



reality check: you ve been watching vids of special forces from all over the world on youtube in the past three hours. Tommorow you ll start a thread about "do you guys think i have what it takes to join the delta forces? "

No, actually I do know some.  Some are my fathers friends (career military officers), other are some of my old shipmates, and some are childhood friends who have since joined up.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Tombo on July 11, 2009, 09:37:18 PM
you don't get it

the elite are all mind controlled "perfect soldier" type


I'll giveu a link and read about the real superman Andy Pero

if you don't understand just ask me questions

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/projectsuperman1part27oct99.shtml

tldr
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 11, 2009, 09:39:59 PM
Supersoldiers are usually heavily augmented, either through eugenics (especially selective breeding), traumatized victims of any age, genetic engineering, cybernetic implants, drugs, brainwashing, traumatic events, an extreme training regime (usually with high casualty rates, and often starting from birth or a young age), or other scientific and pseudoscientific means. Occasionally, some instances also use paranormal methods, such as black magic, and/or technology and science of extraterrestrial origin.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: WillGrant on July 11, 2009, 09:40:33 PM
other are some of my old shipmates,
Oh boy , ;D

"In the navy
you can learn to be a queer.
In the navy you can take it up the rear.
In the navy you can get down on your knees , In the navy you can catch a bad disease"
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 11, 2009, 09:43:53 PM
http://www.wintersteel.com/RobertDuncanOFinioan.html

(http://www.wintersteel.com/files/Duncan/Header.JPG)
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 11, 2009, 09:45:39 PM
Oh boy , ;D

"In the navy
you can learn to be a queer.
In the navy you can take it up the rear.
In the navy you can get down on your knees , In the navy you can catch a bad disease"

Actually, I did catch trich but that wasn't from some port hooker, lol.  And there are WAY more gays in the Army than any other service.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: WillGrant on July 11, 2009, 09:48:09 PM
Actually, I did catch trich but that wasn't from some port hooker, lol.  And there are WAY more gays in the Army than any other service.
Well at least you never leave your mates "behind"  ;D
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 11, 2009, 09:50:46 PM
Well at least you never leave your mates "behind"  ;D

I thought that was the Marines? ;D
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 11, 2009, 09:52:53 PM
And there are WAY more gays in the Army than any other service.

naw, we just act that way to kill time and have a laugh
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Parker on July 11, 2009, 09:58:27 PM
Me too.  All respect to SEALs but I've heard consistent views that they are vastly over-rated, mostly due to media hype.


Or that people are just hatas...because the SEALs are labeled by the media as being  "sexy" :-\.

I've heard USM's tell me the same thing about SEALs, it seems that they ginuinely disliked
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 11, 2009, 10:02:15 PM
One friend just returned from Iraq.  He claimed SEALs were bottom bitches to the Force Recons and the Army SFs.

I have a childhood friend in BUDS right now and I'm curious to see where he ends up.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: jtsunami on July 11, 2009, 10:34:19 PM
All Arab troops, cannot stop Jihad, all you zionist pigs will die by the sword.

jt
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: ManBearPig... on July 11, 2009, 10:42:39 PM
spetsnaz doesn't give a fuck.  they'll shoot a woman in the face on camera.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Parker on July 11, 2009, 10:48:11 PM
One friend just returned from Iraq.  He claimed SEALs were bottom bitches to the Force Recons and the Army SFs.

I have a childhood friend in BUDS right now and I'm curious to see where he ends up.

It's funny how everybody says this but the SEALs say nothing...makes you wonder whether the people who say this either are jealous, want to be in the seals, can't make it, or it's like the skinny guys who see the deisel guy at the club and say, "I can beat him", they aren't nothing.

But I know one thing, it was the SEALs that handled that Pirate situation (prolly becuase it was a situation that called for them)

I give em all respect.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 11, 2009, 10:52:41 PM
It's funny how everybody says this but the SEALs say nothing...makes you wonder whether the people who say this either are jealous, want to be in the seals, can't make it, or it's like the skinny guys who see the deisel guy at the club and say, "I can beat him", they aren't nothing.

But I know one thing, it was the SEALs that handled that Pirate situation (prolly becuase it was a situation that called for them)

I give em all respect.

Yeah I was pretty fond of SEALs after that esp. since they shot the bastards from the fantail of my old ship. ;D
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Parker on July 11, 2009, 10:58:36 PM
Yeah I was pretty fond of SEALs after that esp. since they shot the bastards from the fantail of my old ship. ;D

Damn!!!
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: no one on July 11, 2009, 11:44:22 PM
Who wha?

JTF 2

canadian anti terrorism.

very highly trained and specialised.

for example, each person in a SEAL unit is specialised in some task.

there is no specialisation in the JTF unit. everyone is proficient at everything.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Mars on July 11, 2009, 11:57:38 PM
mossad are jews. cant see why that can make them hardcore.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: headhuntersix on July 12, 2009, 12:12:11 AM
Spezt is sorta a joke, vastly overrated....the Russians have a group that works like Delta. The SEALs are well financed unlike Spezt. There is a differance between regular SEALs and DEVGROUP which is what SEAL team 6 is now called. There are also alot of smaller organizations that most people don't here about. Mossad is not a SOF organization.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 12, 2009, 12:21:57 AM
I see you still remember some of the legendary ownings that were dished out back then 8) ;D

I think JamieX4200 still has stitches in his ass from the reamings we gave him ;D
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Mars on July 12, 2009, 12:26:35 AM
Spezt is sorta a joke, vastly overrated....the Russians have a group that works like Delta. The SEALs are well financed unlike Spezt. There is a differance between regular SEALs and DEVGROUP which is what SEAL team 6 is now called. There are also alot of smaller organizations that most people don't here about. Mossad is not a SOF organization.

but are the seals pussies?
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: jtsunami on July 12, 2009, 12:33:48 AM
mossad are jews. cant see why that can make them hardcore.

cause they don't like to work  ;)
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Alex23 on July 12, 2009, 12:34:12 AM
Supersoldiers are usually heavily augmented, either through eugenics (especially selective breeding), traumatized victims of any age, genetic engineering, cybernetic implants, drugs, brainwashing, traumatic events, an extreme training regime (usually with high casualty rates, and often starting from birth or a young age), or other scientific and pseudoscientific means. Occasionally, some instances also use paranormal methods, such as black magic, and/or technology and science of extraterrestrial origin.

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40674000/jpg/_40674178_cannabissmoker203.jpg)
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Mars on July 12, 2009, 12:35:36 AM
cause they don't like to work  ;)

they already stirred up enough in ww2.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Alex23 on July 12, 2009, 12:45:18 AM
they already stirred up enough in ww2.

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb162/photos_and_photos/UglyWoman01.jpg)
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: arce1988 on July 12, 2009, 01:10:32 AM
...
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Alex23 on July 12, 2009, 01:11:04 AM
...

Reported.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 12, 2009, 01:41:34 AM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40674000/jpg/_40674178_cannabissmoker203.jpg)
I put out info that is far beyond your realm of perception
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Alex23 on July 12, 2009, 01:43:01 AM
I put out info that is far beyond your realm of perception

LOL OK Vastasez... thank you so much ;D

Just don't go all youtube on me ;D
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Parker on July 12, 2009, 03:38:38 AM
Spezt is sorta a joke, vastly overrated....the Russians have a group that works like Delta. The SEALs are well financed unlike Spezt. There is a differance between regular SEALs and DEVGROUP which is what SEAL team 6 is now called. There are also alot of smaller organizations that most people don't here about. Mossad is not a SOF organization.

Eye opener
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 12, 2009, 03:42:39 AM
LOL OK Vastasez... thank you so much ;D

Just don't go all youtube on me ;D
I'm not being condescending

It's trully beyond what you are familiar with

I happen to be VERY familiar with this issue
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: BanksMcgee on July 12, 2009, 03:52:07 AM
I saw a few USN SEALs in Iraq. A few were fat, not disgusting fat but definately didn't look in shape. I've also recently spoken to one a few weeks ago and he is about 5'9'' around 160Lbs. I wasn't impressed, not to sound like a hater but i was definately expecting more with all the media hype.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 12, 2009, 03:54:23 AM
black ops spec teams , the true elite forces are never ever in the media eye

Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Parker on July 12, 2009, 03:55:09 AM
I saw a few USN SEALs in Iraq. A few were fat, not disgusting fat but definately didn't look in shape. I've also recently spoken to one a few weeks ago and he is about 5'9'' around 160Lbs. I wasn't impressed, not to sound like a hater but i was definately expecting more with all the media hype.

Hollywood likes to make all US military (especially SEALs) look lean and handsome---the former you have found out is not true, and so is the latter. I've seen dudes who are pushing 400 pounds claim they are losing weight just so they can "become a Marine", and then of course there are the "birth control" glasses.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 12, 2009, 04:03:17 AM
Spezt is sorta a joke, vastly overrated....the Russians have a group that works like Delta. The SEALs are well financed unlike Spezt. There is a differance between regular SEALs and DEVGROUP which is what SEAL team 6 is now called. There are also alot of smaller organizations that most people don't here about. Mossad is not a SOF organization.

You're fucking retarded, the Spetznaz have proven to be no.1 over and over and over again... you should watch Spike's Deadliest Warrior: Spteznaz vs. Green Beret, it might open your eyes to the truth.
there is no one more badass, with insane training then Spetz.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: WillGrant on July 12, 2009, 04:05:40 AM
black ops spec teams , the true elite forces are never ever in the media eye


I would agree with this..fear those you cannot see
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 12, 2009, 04:08:07 AM
I would agree with this..fear those you cannot see
here..read this

be patient ...it'll blow your mind

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/projectsuperman1part27oct99.shtml

Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on July 12, 2009, 05:34:31 AM
these special forces are basically totalmind control human robots so to speak who basically are assasination squads

 ::)  LOL I've known a few Navy SEALS dumbass.  They are far from mind controlled manchurian candidate lone assassins.  Mind control and indoctrination are not the same thing.   

I will say out of all the Special Forces in the world Spetznaz is not limited by the rules of engagement other special forces are.  They will do WHATEVER it takes no matter how many innocent lives are lost to get the job done.  The massacre at that Beslan theatre or whatever is a perfect example.  But the SAS is supposedly the best in the world from guys that I've talked to in the special forces.  US Seals have some of the most diverse training and best equipment in the world obviously.  As for the nefarious DF, those guys are no better or no worse than anyone else.  They are just shrouded in secrecy.  There are probably many a Marines who could handle any DF guy no problem.  Society loves to make these guys out as some sort of superheroes.  Anyone that knows anything about Special Forces realizes it's their training and equipment but most of all the TEAMWORK that makes these guys so badass. 
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on July 12, 2009, 05:39:14 AM
I saw a few USN SEALs in Iraq. A few were fat, not disgusting fat but definately didn't look in shape. I've also recently spoken to one a few weeks ago and he is about 5'9'' around 160Lbs. I wasn't impressed, not to sound like a hater but i was definately expecting more with all the media hype.

Most Navy SEALs are average joes with an impeccable level of conditioning and ability to weather the elements.  There is absolutely NO advantage to being 6'5 and 250lbs as a Navy Seal.  Quick, stealthy, light, strong, etc.  Again the media and Hollywood loves to portray these guys as some sort of superheroes with nonhuman physical capabilities.  LOL.  Far from it.  These guys go through training that would make the biggest, baddest, Hell's Angel shit his pants. 
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Mars on July 12, 2009, 05:40:11 AM
then they did a bad job at beslan
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on July 12, 2009, 05:41:54 AM
If anyone wants to know how tough Navy SEALs are just read the book by Marcus Luttrell and his 3 buddies who were killed in Afghanistan. 
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on July 12, 2009, 05:43:07 AM
then they did a bad job at beslan

It's not that they did a bad job.  They were in between a rock and hard place.  If they didn't go in when they did many more people would have died.  They probably made mistakes but do you know the story and background behind that seige?  It was a really fucked up situation.  And even to this day some of the details are classified information.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Mars on July 12, 2009, 05:43:28 AM
hows that book called?
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on July 12, 2009, 05:44:04 AM
hows that book called?

I believe it's the Lone Warrior
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Mars on July 12, 2009, 05:46:11 AM
It's not that they did a bad job.  They were in between a rock and hard place.  If they didn't go in when they did many more people would have died.  They probably made mistakes but do you know the story and background behind that seige?  It was a really fucked up situation.  And even to this day some of the details are classified information.

yeah i recall that terrorist action at that school as well, very touching video material with all these kids between the terrorists.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Silverback Gorilla on July 12, 2009, 06:04:34 AM
Ya'll ain't know, fuckin' 0321 Force Recon, Ohh Rahh!!!  Semper Fi
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: ToxicAvenger on July 12, 2009, 07:02:30 AM
Spetznaz, Mossad, USMC Force Recon, Delta.  Unless there's some shit I've never heard of.

Bear Grills  >:(
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 12, 2009, 07:14:30 AM
Ya'll ain't know, fuckin' 0321 Force Recon, Ohh Rahh!!!  Semper Fi
oh brother lol
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 12, 2009, 07:20:59 AM
My vote goes to USAF parareascue special ops.  These guys will go way into enemy territory and pull out downed/captured pilots.  You probally will not even know they are there before you are dead if you interfear with their mission.  They also have the resouces of the entire USAF at thier disposal, the most hi tech organization in the world.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 12, 2009, 07:35:40 AM
My vote goes to USAF parareascue special ops.  These guys will go way into enemy territory and pull out downed/captured pilots.  You probally will not even know they are there before you are dead if you interfear with their mission.  They also have the resouces of the entire USAF at thier disposal, the most hi tech organization in the world.
:D


u are so naive

Iluminatti have technology waaaay beyond what you see
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: BanksMcgee on July 12, 2009, 07:40:02 AM
Ya'll ain't know, fuckin' 0321 Force Recon, Ohh Rahh!!!  Semper Fi

GIVE EM ONE!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Mars on July 12, 2009, 07:42:13 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2707085359_51175bb198.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: BanksMcgee on July 12, 2009, 07:46:30 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2707085359_51175bb198.jpg?v=0)

I would never do that, my thighs will chafe if I don't have clothing layer in between.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 12, 2009, 08:14:01 AM
:D


u are so naive

Iluminatti have technology waaaay beyond what you see

And so does the USAF they are heavily involved in the space program pleeeese............. in reality you are naive  ::)  Things they have today we will not know about for 20 years.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 12, 2009, 08:56:22 AM
And so does the USAF they are heavily involved in the space program pleeeese............. in reality you are naive  ::)  Things they have today we will not know about for 20 years.
lol

you are in kindergarten when it comes to this stuff
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 12, 2009, 10:32:58 PM
sev, lay off the crack pipe dude you've been watching too much universal soldier ;)


Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 13, 2009, 03:38:44 AM
sev, lay off the crack pipe dude you've been watching too much universal soldier ;)



or maybe I've been an univ soldier ;)
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: noworries on July 13, 2009, 09:37:56 AM
A Major in First Force Recon USMC (is that pretty good)
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: MB_722 on July 13, 2009, 05:55:43 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=289718.0;attach=329524;image)

LOL
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 14, 2009, 04:46:17 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2707085359_51175bb198.jpg?v=0)
that's not MB_772  :D
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 14, 2009, 04:25:19 PM
or maybe I've been an univ soldier ;)

Funny, all this time you've been telling us you were a romanian tennis pro, now you've uncovered your secret/brainwashed past as a CIA assassin ?? ;)
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: benchmstr on July 14, 2009, 04:58:23 PM
out of all the ones i worked with i would say DELTA, but the marines always have a lot more fun in a war zone.

bench
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 14, 2009, 06:55:56 PM
out of all the ones i worked with i would say DELTA, but the marines always have a lot more fun in a war zone.

bench

That would be my second choice after Spetz.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: MB_722 on July 14, 2009, 06:57:00 PM
that's not MB_772  :D

LOL, crazy gypsy
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: headhuntersix on July 14, 2009, 07:02:57 PM
You're fucking retarded, the Spetznaz have proven to be no.1 over and over and over again... you should watch Spike's Deadliest Warrior: Spteznaz vs. Green Beret, it might open your eyes to the truth.
there is no one more badass, with insane training then Spetz.

Where....in what battles have they proved this...on a TV show. How did they do in Chechnya? They're training looks tough because they don't have training dollars to do more. Maybe u should read some books on these guys and their severe lack of success. Look at Beslan or the movie theater in Moscow. Running half naked in snow doesn't make u a better door kicker...it means u can run half naked in snow.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: headhuntersix on July 14, 2009, 07:15:42 PM
Whats the mission of the US Green Beret...its not the Spetz mission. Spetz are mostly direct action and who's their US counterpart....CAG (Delta). They don't have the baseline mission to train indig forces as our Army Special Forces do. Our SOF forces...well beyond GB's are so well trained, have massive budgets that nobody else comes close. I include our NATO allies in this. The SAS are perhaps the best large formation SOF forces in the world. We've got smaller specialized units that aren't mentioned, that are pretty scary.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 14, 2009, 07:59:17 PM
Where....in what battles have they proved this...on a TV show. How did they do in Chechnya? They're training looks tough because they don't have training dollars to do more. Maybe u should read some books on these guys and their severe lack of success. Look at Beslan or the movie theater in Moscow. Running half naked in snow doesn't make u a better door kicker...it means u can run half naked in snow.

You want to look at lack of success? you should read up on the SEAL's and DELTA , considering most of their missions were failures....want me to list them ?...

Operation    Country    Year
Operation Eagle Claw     Iran    1980    
Operation Urgent Fury     Grenada    1983    
Operation Acid Gambit     Panama    1989    
Operation Just Cause     Panama    1989    
Operation Desert Shield     Iraq    1990    
Operation Desert Storm     Iraq    1991    
Operation Restore Hope     Somalia    1993    
Operation Gothic Serpent     Somalia    1993    

Most of these are considered FAILURES, esp. Iran and Somalia.

now go snuggle in the corner with your blanky to wipe the tears.

you got seal team six so far up your ass it's not even funny....and yea, let me guess you're best buds with half the operators in DEVGRU and bla bla bla...

Oh and speaking of massive budgets, this was the reason Delta's first major mission in 1980 was a COMPLETE FAILURE.

here's the summary for you:

"The unit took part in Operation Eagle Claw, the failed attempt to rescue American hostages from the US Embassy in Tehran in 1980. The mission failed due to an overly complex plan, inadequate Special Operations Aviation training for the accompanying aircrews, a collision between a rescue helicopter and a refueling tanker aircraft, and mechanical problems that reduced the number of available helicopters from the initial eight to only five (one fewer than minimum required) before the mission contingent left the refueling site to stage for the attack."
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: noworries on July 14, 2009, 11:10:52 PM
You want to look at lack of success? you should read up on the SEAL's and DELTA , considering most of their missions were failures....want me to list them ?...

Operation    Country    Year
Operation Eagle Claw     Iran    1980    
Operation Urgent Fury     Grenada    1983    
Operation Acid Gambit     Panama    1989    
Operation Just Cause     Panama    1989    
Operation Desert Shield     Iraq    1990    
Operation Desert Storm     Iraq    1991    
Operation Restore Hope     Somalia    1993    
Operation Gothic Serpent     Somalia    1993    

Most of these are considered FAILURES, esp. Iran and Somalia.

now go snuggle in the corner with your blanky to wipe the tears.

you got seal team six so far up your ass it's not even funny....and yea, let me guess you're best buds with half the operators in DEVGRU and bla bla bla...

Oh and speaking of massive budgets, this was the reason Delta's first major mission in 1980 was a COMPLETE FAILURE.

here's the summary for you:

"The unit took part in Operation Eagle Claw, the failed attempt to rescue American hostages from the US Embassy in Tehran in 1980. The mission failed due to an overly complex plan, inadequate Special Operations Aviation training for the accompanying aircrews, a collision between a rescue helicopter and a refueling tanker aircraft, and mechanical problems that reduced the number of available helicopters from the initial eight to only five (one fewer than minimum required) before the mission contingent left the refueling site to stage for the attack."


Yea you hear about the failures but you have NO idea about the success's which far outweigh the failures
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: benchmstr on July 15, 2009, 11:43:53 AM
That would be my second choice after Spetz.

my absolute favorite SF crew to ever work with was the Australians. those mother fuckers were hardcore. i forget the name of their SF unit but i worked with them in A-STAN for 2 days, i could only wish to have the level of training they had. i am not just talking about tactical, but survival in general. my unit and them were on about the same tactical level, but some our guys would have never lived without their survival skills.

bench
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on July 15, 2009, 03:43:57 PM
my absolute favorite SF crew to ever work with was the Australians. those mother fuckers were hardcore. i forget the name of their SF unit but i worked with them in A-STAN for 2 days, i could only wish to have the level of training they had. i am not just talking about tactical, but survival in general. my unit and them were on about the same tactical level, but some our guys would have never lived without their survival skills.

bench

They probably grew up in the Australian Outback.  One of the most unforgiven places in the world.  Australia is such a cool country.  Still such a wild place. 
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: headhuntersix on July 15, 2009, 04:11:12 PM
my absolute favorite SF crew to ever work with was the Australians. those mother fuckers were hardcore. i forget the name of their SF unit but i worked with them in A-STAN for 2 days, i could only wish to have the level of training they had. i am not just talking about tactical, but survival in general. my unit and them were on about the same tactical level, but some our guys would have never lived without their survival skills.

bench

Aussie SAS....
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: headhuntersix on July 15, 2009, 04:22:07 PM
OK Captain E...ever worked or met any of those guys..ever.

Delta was how old in 1980 and who ran that mission? Wasn't Delta....
Yeah some SEALS screwed up in Panama..so what?
Grenada.....what. 3rd Ranger BN did pretty damm well with what they had to work with.
Which brings us to Somalia....I had Somali vets in my Company when I was a Company CDR. The Rangers and the Delta guys did a pretty damm good job. Shit happens..how many raids have u been on...I don't know any DEV GRU guys and neither do u. Ur basis for Spez was a fucking TV program. What because they run naked through the snow..that impresses u. Spez units in Chechnya got their asses handed to them....some units were left in the field and took buses home to Russia..thats how bad its become. They couldn't conduct a raid at Beslan, which got people killed and they couldn't take the theater in Moscow down either. Its funny, u posted SOF failures that are years old. Our SOF forces have been kicking ass in Iraq and Afghanistan. Its never a hundred percent but 5th group managed to destroy the Taliban..pretty good for one Special Forces Group. I'll ask the Russian FAO in my course what he thinks of Spez and get back to u....I'll also tell our 3rd Group guy that he sucks.

This could have been a interesting debate...but ur a child with marginal cut and paste skills and zero first hand knowledge of the subject.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on July 15, 2009, 04:46:03 PM
In the 1994 War in Grozny not only did the Spetznaz get their asses handed to them entire units actually deserted over to the rebels.  Also the Russian army lost 240 out of 260 tanks. 
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 15, 2009, 04:46:41 PM
OK Captain E...ever worked or met any of those guys..ever.

Delta was how old in 1980 and who ran that mission? Wasn't Delta....
Yeah some SEALS screwed up in Panama..so what?
Grenada.....what. 3rd Ranger BN did pretty damm well with what they had to work with.
Which brings us to Somalia....I had Somali vets in my Company when I was a Company CDR. The Rangers and the Delta guys did a pretty damm good job. Shit happens..how many raids have u been on...I don't know any DEV GRU guys and neither do u. Ur basis for Spez was a fucking TV program. What because they run naked through the snow..that impresses u. Spez units in Chechnya got their asses handed to them....some units were left in the field and took buses home to Russia..thats how bad its become. They couldn't conduct a raid at Beslan, which got people killed and they couldn't take the theater in Moscow down either. Its funny, u posted SOF failures that are years old. Our SOF forces have been kicking ass in Iraq and Afghanistan. Its never a hundred percent but 5th group managed to destroy the Taliban..pretty good for one Special Forces Group. I'll ask the Russian FAO in my course what he thinks of Spez and get back to u....I'll also tell our 3rd Group guy that he sucks.

This could have been a interesting debate...but ur a child with marginal cut and paste skills and zero first hand knowledge of the subject.

Yeah ok there Rambo, I'm sure you know any spec ops guys or are one... lol  ::)  ::) another 290lb 2% bf MMA fighting , playboy playmate screwing internet millionaire living the dream.

And as far as Iran and Afghanistan go, you're talking about trained guys with the best and latest technology taking on a bunch of farmers and 3rd world rejects with 40 year old weapons, sigh... I'm surprised half of them didn't attack the U.S troops with pitchforks and molotov cocktails....oh wait, they did.
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Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: headhuntersix on July 15, 2009, 05:04:06 PM
I'm not...did I post that I was. I am however in the Army and was in the Marines. I've deployed to both Iraq and Afghanistan and am headed to Iraq again soon. I have alot of friends in SOF..Green Berets. They aren't magical wizards. I'm in a 4 month course now with several. My old boss works for JSOC. Nor am I a 290 MMA fighter....I would venture to guess u've never served huh. Hey those farmers kicked the dog shit out of ur Spez guys didn't they. Maybe u should read what happend the Russian Army in Chechnya. Its funny, can't really have an informed debate because u have no idea what the hell ur talking about. I offered an opinion based on experience, u offered an insult backed by wiki and a TV show.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: noworries on July 15, 2009, 07:11:22 PM
OK Captain E...ever worked or met any of those guys..ever.

Delta was how old in 1980 and who ran that mission? Wasn't Delta....
Yeah some SEALS screwed up in Panama..so what?
Grenada.....what. 3rd Ranger BN did pretty damm well with what they had to work with.
Which brings us to Somalia....I had Somali vets in my Company when I was a Company CDR. The Rangers and the Delta guys did a pretty damm good job. Shit happens..how many raids have u been on...I don't know any DEV GRU guys and neither do u. Ur basis for Spez was a fucking TV program. What because they run naked through the snow..that impresses u. Spez units in Chechnya got their asses handed to them....some units were left in the field and took buses home to Russia..thats how bad its become. They couldn't conduct a raid at Beslan, which got people killed and they couldn't take the theater in Moscow down either. Its funny, u posted SOF failures that are years old. Our SOF forces have been kicking ass in Iraq and Afghanistan. Its never a hundred percent but 5th group managed to destroy the Taliban..pretty good for one Special Forces Group. I'll ask the Russian FAO in my course what he thinks of Spez and get back to u....I'll also tell our 3rd Group guy that he sucks.

This could have been a interesting debate...but ur a child with marginal cut and paste skills and zero first hand knowledge of the subject.

I can answer this for you.  NO Capt. E has done nothing more than making it past Cub Scouts.  He did get up to 4 merit badges in the Boy Scouts though.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 15, 2009, 07:25:12 PM
I can answer this for you.  NO Capt. E has done nothing more than making it past Cub Scouts.  He did get up to 4 merit badges in the Boy Scouts though.

Hey! fuck you! I got up to 6 merit badges!

You're right headhunter I haven't served, nor would I, that's left to tools with no brains who enjoy getting their strings pulled by men in power and tossed to the wolves in the front lines :)   some like being cannon fodder others like being intelligent socialites and aristocrats.

But in response to your statement about knowing shit, you don't know much more then I do as you were NEVER in a delta squadron or seal team, so do yourself a favor and STFU, the marines are nothing special. And as for my love of Spetz. I trained with a bunch of them in sambo and systema :)
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: noworries on July 15, 2009, 09:12:36 PM
Hey! fuck you! I got up to 6 merit badges!

You're right headhunter I haven't served, nor would I, that's left to tools with no brains who enjoy getting their strings pulled by men in power and tossed to the wolves in the front lines :)   some like being cannon fodder others like being intelligent socialites and aristocrats.

But in response to your statement about knowing shit, you don't know much more then I do as you were NEVER in a delta squadron or seal team, so do yourself a favor and STFU, the marines are nothing special. And as for my love of Spetz. I trained with a bunch of them in sambo and systema :)


Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: OzmO on July 15, 2009, 10:13:00 PM
Yeah ok there Rambo, I'm sure you know any spec ops guys or are one... lol  ::)  ::) another 290lb 2% bf MMA fighting , playboy playmate screwing internet millionaire living the dream.

And as far as Iran and Afghanistan go, you're talking about trained guys with the best and latest technology taking on a bunch of farmers and 3rd world rejects with 40 year old weapons, sigh... I'm surprised half of them didn't attack the U.S troops with pitchforks and molotov cocktails....oh wait, they did.
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Yeah, same "farmers" who beat the crap out of the soviets.   ::)

And considering the circumstances in somalia they came out of it pretty good.  Chances are, any other regular outfit would have not made it out at all.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 15, 2009, 11:27:20 PM


Oh I'm sorry, I forgot regular people aren't allowed to train in martial arts gyms with ex spec. forces operatives... that must be the new rule...

 ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: headhuntersix on July 16, 2009, 04:05:10 AM
Ok dude...u know spezt guys from a gym  but a guy whos spent nearly 17 years in knows zero spec ops guys. I guess ur easily impressed...any reason why they were in a gym as opposed to doing their job? Hmmmmm go play a video game.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 16, 2009, 11:52:29 AM
Ok dude...u know spezt guys from a gym  but a guy whos spent nearly 17 years in knows zero spec ops guys. I guess ur easily impressed...any reason why they were in a gym as opposed to doing their job? Hmmmmm go play a video game.

Yeah, it's called being retired, a lot of them came over here for a better life after Russia fell. :)
most of them are/were instructors, making a living teaching. But what would you know about fighting or martial arts.. ::)
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: headhuntersix on July 16, 2009, 01:40:36 PM
It must be great to sit behind a computer and make assumptions....what ur the only guy that can go to a gym and practice MMA. I guess the sport was invented when u walked through the door. Are u that insecure? I'm sure these guys are great Sambo instructors, that has nothing to do with who has better Spec Ops. If u don't train, u don't have a budget or equipment ur gonna suck. We'd suck if that were true. Ur post on some early SOF failures illustrates that perfectly.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 16, 2009, 03:02:13 PM
It must be great to sit behind a computer and make assumptions....what ur the only guy that can go to a gym and practice MMA. I guess the sport was invented when u walked through the door. Are u that insecure? I'm sure these guys are great Sambo instructors, that has nothing to do with who has better Spec Ops. If u don't train, u don't have a budget or equipment ur gonna suck. We'd suck if that were true. Ur post on some early SOF failures illustrates that perfectly.

Dude, whatever.. this conversation is going in a circle.. the topic is subjective... let's be straight up and just admit that most people will nominate the spec op teams that they're close to, you being American naturally pick Delta or the Seals or Rangers, whereas any brit would say SAS and so on and so forth.

:)

each team has had it's victories and losses. Let's just leave it at that. I will agree with one thing you say and that is Russia's collapse and lack of funding did contribute heavily to a lot of mission failures for Spetz.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: headhuntersix on July 16, 2009, 03:06:44 PM
And thats all I was getting at...fair enough. I am not a SEAL fan. 

Better put..ur an MMA guy. Well guess what, ur not getting those high speed well made gloves u wanted. Ur not going to ur gym because we closed it for lack of funds. U can't run because instead of training we're locking u in a cubicle and ur crunching numbers...6 months later. Hey CE..u need to fight... oh and u have 20 minutes..see ya on the mat. Thats Russia. Its been like that for a long time.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 16, 2009, 03:19:20 PM
And thats all I was getting at...fair enough. I am not a SEAL fan. 

Better put..ur an MMA guy. Well guess what, ur not getting those high speed well made gloves u wanted. Ur not going to ur gym because we closed it for lack of funds. U can't run because instead of training we're locking u in a cubicle and ur crunching numbers...6 months later. Hey CE..u need to fight... oh and u have 20 minutes..see ya on the mat. Thats Russia. Its been like that for a long time.

You're absolutely right... and the sad thing is Russia was the cause of their own demise by stockpiling itself to the tits during the cold war, I grew up in communism it was f*cked up man, there were tanks and warheads being built but people were starving on the streets. I totally get your point.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Alex23 on July 16, 2009, 03:32:29 PM
You're absolutely right... and the sad thing is Russia was the cause of their own demise by stockpiling itself to the tits during the cold war, I grew up in communism it was f*cked up man, there were tanks and warheads being built but people were starving on the streets. I totally get your point.


Case closed >:(

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 ;D
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: benchmstr on July 16, 2009, 05:31:17 PM

Case closed >:(

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 ;D
hey broskie, which one is you ???....................... ;D

bench
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: headhuntersix on July 16, 2009, 05:46:25 PM
Canada...a little sexual harrashment and they shut down the greatest airborne brigade in the world.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: no one on July 17, 2009, 11:58:44 AM
Canada...a little sexual harrashment and they shut down the greatest airborne brigade in the world.

are you kidding me?

it's what the media did to them after what they did in somalia that got them disbanded.

besides, they weren't completely shut down, they were re-named jump company.

but you are right- cdn airbourne were the greatest. fucking soldiers, thats for sure.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: MRDUMPLING on July 17, 2009, 12:08:12 PM
I have never served, but I have read some history books.

Like HH6 said, the embassy rescue by Delta failure was not the unit's fault, bad training by the Air Force and the plan was done by guys that had never seen combat.  It was completely disorganized by the command structure.  I call that one a wash as far as Delta's involvement. 

Panama...again, bad intel.  A lot of guys also landed away from the LZ. 

Somalia...I don't think any other group would have made it out of there.  Rangers proved themselves there, and the Delta operatives that sacrificed themselves to guard the downed chopper deserve mad props for what they did that day. 

Again, I haven't served, but I do enjoy reading about history.  I think our SOF guys really are the best in the world with or without a bias.  I think the British SAS and German KSK are the only ones that come close.  Considering Delta force is actually modeled after SAS. 

What do you think about German Spec Ops HH6?  Are they as well trained as they were in WWII? 
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 17, 2009, 01:31:43 PM
From my readings, basically all the special forces units in the world are modelled after SAS. That's just fact... SEALs, Delta, etc. etc.

Here's another badass group from Europe

and yes, like all others modelled after SAS and originally trained by SAS , Delta and SEAL teams.

Polish GROM, SICKEST part at 1:10-1:30 fucking badass! they work like SEAL and Delta in teams of 4-6, all are trained medics/paramedics as well as SCUBA certified and speak at least 2 foreign languages, that's aside from all the other demolitions and counter terrorist training they receive.

Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: MB_722 on July 17, 2009, 02:15:20 PM
cool thread guys keep it up :D
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 17, 2009, 04:46:18 PM
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Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Alex23 on July 18, 2009, 02:30:17 AM
As gay as day is long..  ::)

Proven badasses who get the job done; no scuba shit, no youtube vids with "Creed" playing in the background, just towelheads brain matter flying around like it's 1292.

(http://www.schizodoxe.com/docs/2007/09/blackwater.jpg)
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080404/us-iraq-blackwater/images/NYOL98004042204.jpg)
(http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/blackwater.jpg)
(http://andrew1769.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/blackwater.jpg)
(http://www.geocities.com/cwphantomfan/blackwater.jpg)

(http://leftbooks.com/store/media/blackwater.jpg)

Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: powerpack on July 18, 2009, 04:02:14 AM
As gay as day is long..  ::)

Proven badasses who get the job done; no scuba shit, no youtube vides with "Creed" playing in the background, just towelheads brain matter flying around like it's 1292.

(http://www.schizodoxe.com/docs/2007/09/blackwater.jpg)
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080404/us-iraq-blackwater/images/NYOL98004042204.jpg)
(http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/blackwater.jpg)
(http://andrew1769.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/blackwater.jpg)
(http://www.geocities.com/cwphantomfan/blackwater.jpg)

(http://leftbooks.com/store/media/blackwater.jpg)


Executive outcomes was good as a merc army in their day
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: headhuntersix on July 18, 2009, 08:14:44 AM
Not Blackwater anymore.....no more Prince either. They're not SOF or more correctly they don't do Direct Action Missions. Those pics were as a result of a contract they were doing. U can look up the story, but we also had US troops with them. Blackwater, while controversial, has done their job. They're out of Iraq now. I have almost all the current load of books on PMC's. Many tell the same stories, but all give a great account of that world.

Somebody asked about German SOF. The only thing IO can say is that in the 4-5 years that they were deployed to OEF (Afghanistan) they did no missions and were forced to leave by the Germany gov. There were countries in Afghanistan that made very little mention of having SOF there, that we say alot. Danish SOF for one. Everybody is playing there, but not the Germans. I'm sure they're very good but their gov would not let them play.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: ToxicAvenger on July 18, 2009, 08:52:31 AM
the ISI..

not much in the way of latest equiptment...but shooting someone from half a mile away although requiring skill..i dont think of as badass..about the same as pushing a button from 10 miles away and make a bomb go boom

the ISI's been doing the first worlds dirty work since 1948..with an in the trenches hands on approach

Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: headhuntersix on July 18, 2009, 09:14:03 AM
They're not SOF...either is the CIA or Mossad. We're talking DA SOF mostly. Even the Green Berets, in their traditional roll are'nt direct action SOF. There is alot of heartburn in their community because since 2001, they have done alot more of that, instead of the "by, with and through" training approach that is really their basic roll.
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: benchmstr on July 18, 2009, 02:41:45 PM
As gay as day is long..  ::)

Proven badasses who get the job done; no scuba shit, no youtube vids with "Creed" playing in the background, just towelheads brain matter flying around like it's 1292.

(http://www.schizodoxe.com/docs/2007/09/blackwater.jpg)
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080404/us-iraq-blackwater/images/NYOL98004042204.jpg)
(http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/blackwater.jpg)
(http://andrew1769.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/blackwater.jpg)
(http://www.geocities.com/cwphantomfan/blackwater.jpg)

(http://leftbooks.com/store/media/blackwater.jpg)


there ya go, private "security" is the only way to go. triple canopy was the best thing i ever did.

i still have a lot of friends in the contract business. but i only knew 4 blackwater guys 3 are dead, and 1 is a cop now.

bench
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on July 18, 2009, 06:12:52 PM
An oldie but goodie.. I was long gone but SEALs were badass enough to kill the pirates from my old boat. :D
Title: Re: Most Hardcore Spec Ops
Post by: Purple Aki on July 19, 2009, 03:04:06 AM


I don't know about most "hardcore", but shooting a gpmg one handed from the hip is pretty impressive (20 sec-ish mark)