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Spetznaz, Mossad, USMC Force Recon, Delta. Unless there's some shit I've never heard of.
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ok? ???
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ok? ???
Nothing to say? Don't post, dingleberry. ;D
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this topic always interests me. love to read an unbiased report on the top SF
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this topic always interests me. love to read an unbiased report on the top SF
Me too. All respect to SEALs but I've heard consistent views that they are vastly over-rated, mostly due to media hype.
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would also like to read a good report on counter-terrorism squads.
militaryphotos.net would have something
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Nothing to say? Don't post, dingleberry. ;D
Was ok not enough for you? ;D
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Was ok not enough for you? ;D
Not really. At least come up with a clever, meltdown-inducing insult.
At least I can use that later.
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looks like we have some very young posters on here.
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looks like we have some very bored posters on here.
fixed
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JTF2
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these special forces are basically totalmind control human robots so to speak who basically are assasination squads
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JTF2
Who wha?
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these special forces are basically totalmind control human robots so to speak who basically are assasination squads
No on the robots. Yes on the assassins.
I know some spec ops guys. They are def the opposite of robots.
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The SQUAD
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FORCE RECON USMC
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No on the robots. Yes on the assassins.
I know some spec ops guys. They are def the opposite of robots.
you don't get it
the elite are all mind controlled "perfect soldier" type
I'll giveu a link and read about the real superman Andy Pero
if you don't understand just ask me questions
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/projectsuperman1part27oct99.shtml
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FORCE RECON USMC
Oh you can form words
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The SQUAD
lol ;D
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lol ;D
I see you still remember some of the legendary ownings that were dished out back then 8) ;D
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No on the robots. Yes on the assassins.
I know some spec ops guys. They are def the opposite of robots.
here we go again ::)
reality check: you ve been watching vids of special forces from all over the world on youtube in the past three hours. Tommorow you ll start a thread about "do you guys think i have what it takes to join the delta forces? "
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FORCE RECON USMC
u seem to be a reallife badass
true ?
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here we go again ::)
reality check: you ve been watching vids of special forces from all over the world on youtube in the past three hours. Tommorow you ll start a thread about "do you guys think i have what it takes to join the delta forces? "
No, actually I do know some. Some are my fathers friends (career military officers), other are some of my old shipmates, and some are childhood friends who have since joined up.
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you don't get it
the elite are all mind controlled "perfect soldier" type
I'll giveu a link and read about the real superman Andy Pero
if you don't understand just ask me questions
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/projectsuperman1part27oct99.shtml
tldr
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Supersoldiers are usually heavily augmented, either through eugenics (especially selective breeding), traumatized victims of any age, genetic engineering, cybernetic implants, drugs, brainwashing, traumatic events, an extreme training regime (usually with high casualty rates, and often starting from birth or a young age), or other scientific and pseudoscientific means. Occasionally, some instances also use paranormal methods, such as black magic, and/or technology and science of extraterrestrial origin.
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other are some of my old shipmates,
Oh boy , ;D
"In the navy
you can learn to be a queer.
In the navy you can take it up the rear.
In the navy you can get down on your knees , In the navy you can catch a bad disease"
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Oh boy , ;D
"In the navy
you can learn to be a queer.
In the navy you can take it up the rear.
In the navy you can get down on your knees , In the navy you can catch a bad disease"
Actually, I did catch trich but that wasn't from some port hooker, lol. And there are WAY more gays in the Army than any other service.
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Actually, I did catch trich but that wasn't from some port hooker, lol. And there are WAY more gays in the Army than any other service.
Well at least you never leave your mates "behind" ;D
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Well at least you never leave your mates "behind" ;D
I thought that was the Marines? ;D
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And there are WAY more gays in the Army than any other service.
naw, we just act that way to kill time and have a laugh
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Me too. All respect to SEALs but I've heard consistent views that they are vastly over-rated, mostly due to media hype.
Or that people are just hatas...because the SEALs are labeled by the media as being "sexy" :-\.
I've heard USM's tell me the same thing about SEALs, it seems that they ginuinely disliked
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One friend just returned from Iraq. He claimed SEALs were bottom bitches to the Force Recons and the Army SFs.
I have a childhood friend in BUDS right now and I'm curious to see where he ends up.
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All Arab troops, cannot stop Jihad, all you zionist pigs will die by the sword.
jt
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spetsnaz doesn't give a fuck. they'll shoot a woman in the face on camera.
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One friend just returned from Iraq. He claimed SEALs were bottom bitches to the Force Recons and the Army SFs.
I have a childhood friend in BUDS right now and I'm curious to see where he ends up.
It's funny how everybody says this but the SEALs say nothing...makes you wonder whether the people who say this either are jealous, want to be in the seals, can't make it, or it's like the skinny guys who see the deisel guy at the club and say, "I can beat him", they aren't nothing.
But I know one thing, it was the SEALs that handled that Pirate situation (prolly becuase it was a situation that called for them)
I give em all respect.
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It's funny how everybody says this but the SEALs say nothing...makes you wonder whether the people who say this either are jealous, want to be in the seals, can't make it, or it's like the skinny guys who see the deisel guy at the club and say, "I can beat him", they aren't nothing.
But I know one thing, it was the SEALs that handled that Pirate situation (prolly becuase it was a situation that called for them)
I give em all respect.
Yeah I was pretty fond of SEALs after that esp. since they shot the bastards from the fantail of my old ship. ;D
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Yeah I was pretty fond of SEALs after that esp. since they shot the bastards from the fantail of my old ship. ;D
Damn!!!
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Who wha?
JTF 2
canadian anti terrorism.
very highly trained and specialised.
for example, each person in a SEAL unit is specialised in some task.
there is no specialisation in the JTF unit. everyone is proficient at everything.
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mossad are jews. cant see why that can make them hardcore.
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Spezt is sorta a joke, vastly overrated....the Russians have a group that works like Delta. The SEALs are well financed unlike Spezt. There is a differance between regular SEALs and DEVGROUP which is what SEAL team 6 is now called. There are also alot of smaller organizations that most people don't here about. Mossad is not a SOF organization.
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I see you still remember some of the legendary ownings that were dished out back then 8) ;D
I think JamieX4200 still has stitches in his ass from the reamings we gave him ;D
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Spezt is sorta a joke, vastly overrated....the Russians have a group that works like Delta. The SEALs are well financed unlike Spezt. There is a differance between regular SEALs and DEVGROUP which is what SEAL team 6 is now called. There are also alot of smaller organizations that most people don't here about. Mossad is not a SOF organization.
but are the seals pussies?
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mossad are jews. cant see why that can make them hardcore.
cause they don't like to work ;)
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Supersoldiers are usually heavily augmented, either through eugenics (especially selective breeding), traumatized victims of any age, genetic engineering, cybernetic implants, drugs, brainwashing, traumatic events, an extreme training regime (usually with high casualty rates, and often starting from birth or a young age), or other scientific and pseudoscientific means. Occasionally, some instances also use paranormal methods, such as black magic, and/or technology and science of extraterrestrial origin.
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cause they don't like to work ;)
they already stirred up enough in ww2.
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they already stirred up enough in ww2.
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Reported.
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I put out info that is far beyond your realm of perception
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I put out info that is far beyond your realm of perception
LOL OK Vastasez... thank you so much ;D
Just don't go all youtube on me ;D
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Spezt is sorta a joke, vastly overrated....the Russians have a group that works like Delta. The SEALs are well financed unlike Spezt. There is a differance between regular SEALs and DEVGROUP which is what SEAL team 6 is now called. There are also alot of smaller organizations that most people don't here about. Mossad is not a SOF organization.
Eye opener
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LOL OK Vastasez... thank you so much ;D
Just don't go all youtube on me ;D
I'm not being condescending
It's trully beyond what you are familiar with
I happen to be VERY familiar with this issue
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I saw a few USN SEALs in Iraq. A few were fat, not disgusting fat but definately didn't look in shape. I've also recently spoken to one a few weeks ago and he is about 5'9'' around 160Lbs. I wasn't impressed, not to sound like a hater but i was definately expecting more with all the media hype.
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black ops spec teams , the true elite forces are never ever in the media eye
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I saw a few USN SEALs in Iraq. A few were fat, not disgusting fat but definately didn't look in shape. I've also recently spoken to one a few weeks ago and he is about 5'9'' around 160Lbs. I wasn't impressed, not to sound like a hater but i was definately expecting more with all the media hype.
Hollywood likes to make all US military (especially SEALs) look lean and handsome---the former you have found out is not true, and so is the latter. I've seen dudes who are pushing 400 pounds claim they are losing weight just so they can "become a Marine", and then of course there are the "birth control" glasses.
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Spezt is sorta a joke, vastly overrated....the Russians have a group that works like Delta. The SEALs are well financed unlike Spezt. There is a differance between regular SEALs and DEVGROUP which is what SEAL team 6 is now called. There are also alot of smaller organizations that most people don't here about. Mossad is not a SOF organization.
You're fucking retarded, the Spetznaz have proven to be no.1 over and over and over again... you should watch Spike's Deadliest Warrior: Spteznaz vs. Green Beret, it might open your eyes to the truth.
there is no one more badass, with insane training then Spetz.
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black ops spec teams , the true elite forces are never ever in the media eye
I would agree with this..fear those you cannot see
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I would agree with this..fear those you cannot see
here..read this
be patient ...it'll blow your mind
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/projectsuperman1part27oct99.shtml
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these special forces are basically totalmind control human robots so to speak who basically are assasination squads
::) LOL I've known a few Navy SEALS dumbass. They are far from mind controlled manchurian candidate lone assassins. Mind control and indoctrination are not the same thing.
I will say out of all the Special Forces in the world Spetznaz is not limited by the rules of engagement other special forces are. They will do WHATEVER it takes no matter how many innocent lives are lost to get the job done. The massacre at that Beslan theatre or whatever is a perfect example. But the SAS is supposedly the best in the world from guys that I've talked to in the special forces. US Seals have some of the most diverse training and best equipment in the world obviously. As for the nefarious DF, those guys are no better or no worse than anyone else. They are just shrouded in secrecy. There are probably many a Marines who could handle any DF guy no problem. Society loves to make these guys out as some sort of superheroes. Anyone that knows anything about Special Forces realizes it's their training and equipment but most of all the TEAMWORK that makes these guys so badass.
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I saw a few USN SEALs in Iraq. A few were fat, not disgusting fat but definately didn't look in shape. I've also recently spoken to one a few weeks ago and he is about 5'9'' around 160Lbs. I wasn't impressed, not to sound like a hater but i was definately expecting more with all the media hype.
Most Navy SEALs are average joes with an impeccable level of conditioning and ability to weather the elements. There is absolutely NO advantage to being 6'5 and 250lbs as a Navy Seal. Quick, stealthy, light, strong, etc. Again the media and Hollywood loves to portray these guys as some sort of superheroes with nonhuman physical capabilities. LOL. Far from it. These guys go through training that would make the biggest, baddest, Hell's Angel shit his pants.
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then they did a bad job at beslan
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If anyone wants to know how tough Navy SEALs are just read the book by Marcus Luttrell and his 3 buddies who were killed in Afghanistan.
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then they did a bad job at beslan
It's not that they did a bad job. They were in between a rock and hard place. If they didn't go in when they did many more people would have died. They probably made mistakes but do you know the story and background behind that seige? It was a really fucked up situation. And even to this day some of the details are classified information.
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hows that book called?
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hows that book called?
I believe it's the Lone Warrior
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It's not that they did a bad job. They were in between a rock and hard place. If they didn't go in when they did many more people would have died. They probably made mistakes but do you know the story and background behind that seige? It was a really fucked up situation. And even to this day some of the details are classified information.
yeah i recall that terrorist action at that school as well, very touching video material with all these kids between the terrorists.
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Ya'll ain't know, fuckin' 0321 Force Recon, Ohh Rahh!!! Semper Fi
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Spetznaz, Mossad, USMC Force Recon, Delta. Unless there's some shit I've never heard of.
Bear Grills >:(
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Ya'll ain't know, fuckin' 0321 Force Recon, Ohh Rahh!!! Semper Fi
oh brother lol
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My vote goes to USAF parareascue special ops. These guys will go way into enemy territory and pull out downed/captured pilots. You probally will not even know they are there before you are dead if you interfear with their mission. They also have the resouces of the entire USAF at thier disposal, the most hi tech organization in the world.
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My vote goes to USAF parareascue special ops. These guys will go way into enemy territory and pull out downed/captured pilots. You probally will not even know they are there before you are dead if you interfear with their mission. They also have the resouces of the entire USAF at thier disposal, the most hi tech organization in the world.
:D
u are so naive
Iluminatti have technology waaaay beyond what you see
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Ya'll ain't know, fuckin' 0321 Force Recon, Ohh Rahh!!! Semper Fi
GIVE EM ONE!!!!!!!!!!
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I would never do that, my thighs will chafe if I don't have clothing layer in between.
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:D
u are so naive
Iluminatti have technology waaaay beyond what you see
And so does the USAF they are heavily involved in the space program pleeeese............. in reality you are naive ::) Things they have today we will not know about for 20 years.
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And so does the USAF they are heavily involved in the space program pleeeese............. in reality you are naive ::) Things they have today we will not know about for 20 years.
lol
you are in kindergarten when it comes to this stuff
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sev, lay off the crack pipe dude you've been watching too much universal soldier ;)
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sev, lay off the crack pipe dude you've been watching too much universal soldier ;)
or maybe I've been an univ soldier ;)
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A Major in First Force Recon USMC (is that pretty good)
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LOL
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that's not MB_772 :D
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or maybe I've been an univ soldier ;)
Funny, all this time you've been telling us you were a romanian tennis pro, now you've uncovered your secret/brainwashed past as a CIA assassin ?? ;)
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out of all the ones i worked with i would say DELTA, but the marines always have a lot more fun in a war zone.
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out of all the ones i worked with i would say DELTA, but the marines always have a lot more fun in a war zone.
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That would be my second choice after Spetz.
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that's not MB_772 :D
LOL, crazy gypsy
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You're fucking retarded, the Spetznaz have proven to be no.1 over and over and over again... you should watch Spike's Deadliest Warrior: Spteznaz vs. Green Beret, it might open your eyes to the truth.
there is no one more badass, with insane training then Spetz.
Where....in what battles have they proved this...on a TV show. How did they do in Chechnya? They're training looks tough because they don't have training dollars to do more. Maybe u should read some books on these guys and their severe lack of success. Look at Beslan or the movie theater in Moscow. Running half naked in snow doesn't make u a better door kicker...it means u can run half naked in snow.
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Whats the mission of the US Green Beret...its not the Spetz mission. Spetz are mostly direct action and who's their US counterpart....CAG (Delta). They don't have the baseline mission to train indig forces as our Army Special Forces do. Our SOF forces...well beyond GB's are so well trained, have massive budgets that nobody else comes close. I include our NATO allies in this. The SAS are perhaps the best large formation SOF forces in the world. We've got smaller specialized units that aren't mentioned, that are pretty scary.
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Where....in what battles have they proved this...on a TV show. How did they do in Chechnya? They're training looks tough because they don't have training dollars to do more. Maybe u should read some books on these guys and their severe lack of success. Look at Beslan or the movie theater in Moscow. Running half naked in snow doesn't make u a better door kicker...it means u can run half naked in snow.
You want to look at lack of success? you should read up on the SEAL's and DELTA , considering most of their missions were failures....want me to list them ?...
Operation Country Year
Operation Eagle Claw Iran 1980
Operation Urgent Fury Grenada 1983
Operation Acid Gambit Panama 1989
Operation Just Cause Panama 1989
Operation Desert Shield Iraq 1990
Operation Desert Storm Iraq 1991
Operation Restore Hope Somalia 1993
Operation Gothic Serpent Somalia 1993
Most of these are considered FAILURES, esp. Iran and Somalia.
now go snuggle in the corner with your blanky to wipe the tears.
you got seal team six so far up your ass it's not even funny....and yea, let me guess you're best buds with half the operators in DEVGRU and bla bla bla...
Oh and speaking of massive budgets, this was the reason Delta's first major mission in 1980 was a COMPLETE FAILURE.
here's the summary for you:
"The unit took part in Operation Eagle Claw, the failed attempt to rescue American hostages from the US Embassy in Tehran in 1980. The mission failed due to an overly complex plan, inadequate Special Operations Aviation training for the accompanying aircrews, a collision between a rescue helicopter and a refueling tanker aircraft, and mechanical problems that reduced the number of available helicopters from the initial eight to only five (one fewer than minimum required) before the mission contingent left the refueling site to stage for the attack."
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You want to look at lack of success? you should read up on the SEAL's and DELTA , considering most of their missions were failures....want me to list them ?...
Operation Country Year
Operation Eagle Claw Iran 1980
Operation Urgent Fury Grenada 1983
Operation Acid Gambit Panama 1989
Operation Just Cause Panama 1989
Operation Desert Shield Iraq 1990
Operation Desert Storm Iraq 1991
Operation Restore Hope Somalia 1993
Operation Gothic Serpent Somalia 1993
Most of these are considered FAILURES, esp. Iran and Somalia.
now go snuggle in the corner with your blanky to wipe the tears.
you got seal team six so far up your ass it's not even funny....and yea, let me guess you're best buds with half the operators in DEVGRU and bla bla bla...
Oh and speaking of massive budgets, this was the reason Delta's first major mission in 1980 was a COMPLETE FAILURE.
here's the summary for you:
"The unit took part in Operation Eagle Claw, the failed attempt to rescue American hostages from the US Embassy in Tehran in 1980. The mission failed due to an overly complex plan, inadequate Special Operations Aviation training for the accompanying aircrews, a collision between a rescue helicopter and a refueling tanker aircraft, and mechanical problems that reduced the number of available helicopters from the initial eight to only five (one fewer than minimum required) before the mission contingent left the refueling site to stage for the attack."
Yea you hear about the failures but you have NO idea about the success's which far outweigh the failures
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That would be my second choice after Spetz.
my absolute favorite SF crew to ever work with was the Australians. those mother fuckers were hardcore. i forget the name of their SF unit but i worked with them in A-STAN for 2 days, i could only wish to have the level of training they had. i am not just talking about tactical, but survival in general. my unit and them were on about the same tactical level, but some our guys would have never lived without their survival skills.
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my absolute favorite SF crew to ever work with was the Australians. those mother fuckers were hardcore. i forget the name of their SF unit but i worked with them in A-STAN for 2 days, i could only wish to have the level of training they had. i am not just talking about tactical, but survival in general. my unit and them were on about the same tactical level, but some our guys would have never lived without their survival skills.
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They probably grew up in the Australian Outback. One of the most unforgiven places in the world. Australia is such a cool country. Still such a wild place.
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my absolute favorite SF crew to ever work with was the Australians. those mother fuckers were hardcore. i forget the name of their SF unit but i worked with them in A-STAN for 2 days, i could only wish to have the level of training they had. i am not just talking about tactical, but survival in general. my unit and them were on about the same tactical level, but some our guys would have never lived without their survival skills.
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Aussie SAS....
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OK Captain E...ever worked or met any of those guys..ever.
Delta was how old in 1980 and who ran that mission? Wasn't Delta....
Yeah some SEALS screwed up in Panama..so what?
Grenada.....what. 3rd Ranger BN did pretty damm well with what they had to work with.
Which brings us to Somalia....I had Somali vets in my Company when I was a Company CDR. The Rangers and the Delta guys did a pretty damm good job. Shit happens..how many raids have u been on...I don't know any DEV GRU guys and neither do u. Ur basis for Spez was a fucking TV program. What because they run naked through the snow..that impresses u. Spez units in Chechnya got their asses handed to them....some units were left in the field and took buses home to Russia..thats how bad its become. They couldn't conduct a raid at Beslan, which got people killed and they couldn't take the theater in Moscow down either. Its funny, u posted SOF failures that are years old. Our SOF forces have been kicking ass in Iraq and Afghanistan. Its never a hundred percent but 5th group managed to destroy the Taliban..pretty good for one Special Forces Group. I'll ask the Russian FAO in my course what he thinks of Spez and get back to u....I'll also tell our 3rd Group guy that he sucks.
This could have been a interesting debate...but ur a child with marginal cut and paste skills and zero first hand knowledge of the subject.
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In the 1994 War in Grozny not only did the Spetznaz get their asses handed to them entire units actually deserted over to the rebels. Also the Russian army lost 240 out of 260 tanks.
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OK Captain E...ever worked or met any of those guys..ever.
Delta was how old in 1980 and who ran that mission? Wasn't Delta....
Yeah some SEALS screwed up in Panama..so what?
Grenada.....what. 3rd Ranger BN did pretty damm well with what they had to work with.
Which brings us to Somalia....I had Somali vets in my Company when I was a Company CDR. The Rangers and the Delta guys did a pretty damm good job. Shit happens..how many raids have u been on...I don't know any DEV GRU guys and neither do u. Ur basis for Spez was a fucking TV program. What because they run naked through the snow..that impresses u. Spez units in Chechnya got their asses handed to them....some units were left in the field and took buses home to Russia..thats how bad its become. They couldn't conduct a raid at Beslan, which got people killed and they couldn't take the theater in Moscow down either. Its funny, u posted SOF failures that are years old. Our SOF forces have been kicking ass in Iraq and Afghanistan. Its never a hundred percent but 5th group managed to destroy the Taliban..pretty good for one Special Forces Group. I'll ask the Russian FAO in my course what he thinks of Spez and get back to u....I'll also tell our 3rd Group guy that he sucks.
This could have been a interesting debate...but ur a child with marginal cut and paste skills and zero first hand knowledge of the subject.
Yeah ok there Rambo, I'm sure you know any spec ops guys or are one... lol ::) ::) another 290lb 2% bf MMA fighting , playboy playmate screwing internet millionaire living the dream.
And as far as Iran and Afghanistan go, you're talking about trained guys with the best and latest technology taking on a bunch of farmers and 3rd world rejects with 40 year old weapons, sigh... I'm surprised half of them didn't attack the U.S troops with pitchforks and molotov cocktails....oh wait, they did.
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I'm not...did I post that I was. I am however in the Army and was in the Marines. I've deployed to both Iraq and Afghanistan and am headed to Iraq again soon. I have alot of friends in SOF..Green Berets. They aren't magical wizards. I'm in a 4 month course now with several. My old boss works for JSOC. Nor am I a 290 MMA fighter....I would venture to guess u've never served huh. Hey those farmers kicked the dog shit out of ur Spez guys didn't they. Maybe u should read what happend the Russian Army in Chechnya. Its funny, can't really have an informed debate because u have no idea what the hell ur talking about. I offered an opinion based on experience, u offered an insult backed by wiki and a TV show.
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OK Captain E...ever worked or met any of those guys..ever.
Delta was how old in 1980 and who ran that mission? Wasn't Delta....
Yeah some SEALS screwed up in Panama..so what?
Grenada.....what. 3rd Ranger BN did pretty damm well with what they had to work with.
Which brings us to Somalia....I had Somali vets in my Company when I was a Company CDR. The Rangers and the Delta guys did a pretty damm good job. Shit happens..how many raids have u been on...I don't know any DEV GRU guys and neither do u. Ur basis for Spez was a fucking TV program. What because they run naked through the snow..that impresses u. Spez units in Chechnya got their asses handed to them....some units were left in the field and took buses home to Russia..thats how bad its become. They couldn't conduct a raid at Beslan, which got people killed and they couldn't take the theater in Moscow down either. Its funny, u posted SOF failures that are years old. Our SOF forces have been kicking ass in Iraq and Afghanistan. Its never a hundred percent but 5th group managed to destroy the Taliban..pretty good for one Special Forces Group. I'll ask the Russian FAO in my course what he thinks of Spez and get back to u....I'll also tell our 3rd Group guy that he sucks.
This could have been a interesting debate...but ur a child with marginal cut and paste skills and zero first hand knowledge of the subject.
I can answer this for you. NO Capt. E has done nothing more than making it past Cub Scouts. He did get up to 4 merit badges in the Boy Scouts though.
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I can answer this for you. NO Capt. E has done nothing more than making it past Cub Scouts. He did get up to 4 merit badges in the Boy Scouts though.
Hey! fuck you! I got up to 6 merit badges!
You're right headhunter I haven't served, nor would I, that's left to tools with no brains who enjoy getting their strings pulled by men in power and tossed to the wolves in the front lines :) some like being cannon fodder others like being intelligent socialites and aristocrats.
But in response to your statement about knowing shit, you don't know much more then I do as you were NEVER in a delta squadron or seal team, so do yourself a favor and STFU, the marines are nothing special. And as for my love of Spetz. I trained with a bunch of them in sambo and systema :)
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Hey! fuck you! I got up to 6 merit badges!
You're right headhunter I haven't served, nor would I, that's left to tools with no brains who enjoy getting their strings pulled by men in power and tossed to the wolves in the front lines :) some like being cannon fodder others like being intelligent socialites and aristocrats.
But in response to your statement about knowing shit, you don't know much more then I do as you were NEVER in a delta squadron or seal team, so do yourself a favor and STFU, the marines are nothing special. And as for my love of Spetz. I trained with a bunch of them in sambo and systema :)
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Yeah ok there Rambo, I'm sure you know any spec ops guys or are one... lol ::) ::) another 290lb 2% bf MMA fighting , playboy playmate screwing internet millionaire living the dream.
And as far as Iran and Afghanistan go, you're talking about trained guys with the best and latest technology taking on a bunch of farmers and 3rd world rejects with 40 year old weapons, sigh... I'm surprised half of them didn't attack the U.S troops with pitchforks and molotov cocktails....oh wait, they did.
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Yeah, same "farmers" who beat the crap out of the soviets. ::)
And considering the circumstances in somalia they came out of it pretty good. Chances are, any other regular outfit would have not made it out at all.
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Oh I'm sorry, I forgot regular people aren't allowed to train in martial arts gyms with ex spec. forces operatives... that must be the new rule...
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Ok dude...u know spezt guys from a gym but a guy whos spent nearly 17 years in knows zero spec ops guys. I guess ur easily impressed...any reason why they were in a gym as opposed to doing their job? Hmmmmm go play a video game.
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Ok dude...u know spezt guys from a gym but a guy whos spent nearly 17 years in knows zero spec ops guys. I guess ur easily impressed...any reason why they were in a gym as opposed to doing their job? Hmmmmm go play a video game.
Yeah, it's called being retired, a lot of them came over here for a better life after Russia fell. :)
most of them are/were instructors, making a living teaching. But what would you know about fighting or martial arts.. ::)
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It must be great to sit behind a computer and make assumptions....what ur the only guy that can go to a gym and practice MMA. I guess the sport was invented when u walked through the door. Are u that insecure? I'm sure these guys are great Sambo instructors, that has nothing to do with who has better Spec Ops. If u don't train, u don't have a budget or equipment ur gonna suck. We'd suck if that were true. Ur post on some early SOF failures illustrates that perfectly.
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It must be great to sit behind a computer and make assumptions....what ur the only guy that can go to a gym and practice MMA. I guess the sport was invented when u walked through the door. Are u that insecure? I'm sure these guys are great Sambo instructors, that has nothing to do with who has better Spec Ops. If u don't train, u don't have a budget or equipment ur gonna suck. We'd suck if that were true. Ur post on some early SOF failures illustrates that perfectly.
Dude, whatever.. this conversation is going in a circle.. the topic is subjective... let's be straight up and just admit that most people will nominate the spec op teams that they're close to, you being American naturally pick Delta or the Seals or Rangers, whereas any brit would say SAS and so on and so forth.
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each team has had it's victories and losses. Let's just leave it at that. I will agree with one thing you say and that is Russia's collapse and lack of funding did contribute heavily to a lot of mission failures for Spetz.
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And thats all I was getting at...fair enough. I am not a SEAL fan.
Better put..ur an MMA guy. Well guess what, ur not getting those high speed well made gloves u wanted. Ur not going to ur gym because we closed it for lack of funds. U can't run because instead of training we're locking u in a cubicle and ur crunching numbers...6 months later. Hey CE..u need to fight... oh and u have 20 minutes..see ya on the mat. Thats Russia. Its been like that for a long time.
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And thats all I was getting at...fair enough. I am not a SEAL fan.
Better put..ur an MMA guy. Well guess what, ur not getting those high speed well made gloves u wanted. Ur not going to ur gym because we closed it for lack of funds. U can't run because instead of training we're locking u in a cubicle and ur crunching numbers...6 months later. Hey CE..u need to fight... oh and u have 20 minutes..see ya on the mat. Thats Russia. Its been like that for a long time.
You're absolutely right... and the sad thing is Russia was the cause of their own demise by stockpiling itself to the tits during the cold war, I grew up in communism it was f*cked up man, there were tanks and warheads being built but people were starving on the streets. I totally get your point.
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You're absolutely right... and the sad thing is Russia was the cause of their own demise by stockpiling itself to the tits during the cold war, I grew up in communism it was f*cked up man, there were tanks and warheads being built but people were starving on the streets. I totally get your point.
Case closed >:(
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Case closed >:(
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hey broskie, which one is you ???....................... ;D
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Canada...a little sexual harrashment and they shut down the greatest airborne brigade in the world.
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Canada...a little sexual harrashment and they shut down the greatest airborne brigade in the world.
are you kidding me?
it's what the media did to them after what they did in somalia that got them disbanded.
besides, they weren't completely shut down, they were re-named jump company.
but you are right- cdn airbourne were the greatest. fucking soldiers, thats for sure.
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I have never served, but I have read some history books.
Like HH6 said, the embassy rescue by Delta failure was not the unit's fault, bad training by the Air Force and the plan was done by guys that had never seen combat. It was completely disorganized by the command structure. I call that one a wash as far as Delta's involvement.
Panama...again, bad intel. A lot of guys also landed away from the LZ.
Somalia...I don't think any other group would have made it out of there. Rangers proved themselves there, and the Delta operatives that sacrificed themselves to guard the downed chopper deserve mad props for what they did that day.
Again, I haven't served, but I do enjoy reading about history. I think our SOF guys really are the best in the world with or without a bias. I think the British SAS and German KSK are the only ones that come close. Considering Delta force is actually modeled after SAS.
What do you think about German Spec Ops HH6? Are they as well trained as they were in WWII?
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From my readings, basically all the special forces units in the world are modelled after SAS. That's just fact... SEALs, Delta, etc. etc.
Here's another badass group from Europe
and yes, like all others modelled after SAS and originally trained by SAS , Delta and SEAL teams.
Polish GROM, SICKEST part at 1:10-1:30 fucking badass! they work like SEAL and Delta in teams of 4-6, all are trained medics/paramedics as well as SCUBA certified and speak at least 2 foreign languages, that's aside from all the other demolitions and counter terrorist training they receive.
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cool thread guys keep it up :D
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As gay as day is long.. ::)
Proven badasses who get the job done; no scuba shit, no youtube vids with "Creed" playing in the background, just towelheads brain matter flying around like it's 1292.
(http://www.schizodoxe.com/docs/2007/09/blackwater.jpg)
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080404/us-iraq-blackwater/images/NYOL98004042204.jpg)
(http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/blackwater.jpg)
(http://andrew1769.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/blackwater.jpg)
(http://www.geocities.com/cwphantomfan/blackwater.jpg)
(http://leftbooks.com/store/media/blackwater.jpg)
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As gay as day is long.. ::)
Proven badasses who get the job done; no scuba shit, no youtube vides with "Creed" playing in the background, just towelheads brain matter flying around like it's 1292.
(http://www.schizodoxe.com/docs/2007/09/blackwater.jpg)
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080404/us-iraq-blackwater/images/NYOL98004042204.jpg)
(http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/blackwater.jpg)
(http://andrew1769.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/blackwater.jpg)
(http://www.geocities.com/cwphantomfan/blackwater.jpg)
(http://leftbooks.com/store/media/blackwater.jpg)
Executive outcomes was good as a merc army in their day
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Not Blackwater anymore.....no more Prince either. They're not SOF or more correctly they don't do Direct Action Missions. Those pics were as a result of a contract they were doing. U can look up the story, but we also had US troops with them. Blackwater, while controversial, has done their job. They're out of Iraq now. I have almost all the current load of books on PMC's. Many tell the same stories, but all give a great account of that world.
Somebody asked about German SOF. The only thing IO can say is that in the 4-5 years that they were deployed to OEF (Afghanistan) they did no missions and were forced to leave by the Germany gov. There were countries in Afghanistan that made very little mention of having SOF there, that we say alot. Danish SOF for one. Everybody is playing there, but not the Germans. I'm sure they're very good but their gov would not let them play.
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the ISI..
not much in the way of latest equiptment...but shooting someone from half a mile away although requiring skill..i dont think of as badass..about the same as pushing a button from 10 miles away and make a bomb go boom
the ISI's been doing the first worlds dirty work since 1948..with an in the trenches hands on approach
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They're not SOF...either is the CIA or Mossad. We're talking DA SOF mostly. Even the Green Berets, in their traditional roll are'nt direct action SOF. There is alot of heartburn in their community because since 2001, they have done alot more of that, instead of the "by, with and through" training approach that is really their basic roll.
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As gay as day is long.. ::)
Proven badasses who get the job done; no scuba shit, no youtube vids with "Creed" playing in the background, just towelheads brain matter flying around like it's 1292.
(http://www.schizodoxe.com/docs/2007/09/blackwater.jpg)
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080404/us-iraq-blackwater/images/NYOL98004042204.jpg)
(http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/blackwater.jpg)
(http://andrew1769.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/blackwater.jpg)
(http://www.geocities.com/cwphantomfan/blackwater.jpg)
(http://leftbooks.com/store/media/blackwater.jpg)
there ya go, private "security" is the only way to go. triple canopy was the best thing i ever did.
i still have a lot of friends in the contract business. but i only knew 4 blackwater guys 3 are dead, and 1 is a cop now.
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An oldie but goodie.. I was long gone but SEALs were badass enough to kill the pirates from my old boat. :D
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I don't know about most "hardcore", but shooting a gpmg one handed from the hip is pretty impressive (20 sec-ish mark)