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The 'Cap And Tax' Dead End
By Sarah Palin
Washington Post - Op-Ed
Tuesday, July 14, 2009
There is no shortage of threats to our economy. America's unemployment rate recently hit its highest mark in more than 25 years and is expected to continue climbing. Worries are widespread that even when the economy finally rebounds, the recovery won't bring jobs. Our nation's debt is unsustainable, and the federal government's reach into the private sector is unprecedented.
Unfortunately, many in the national media would rather focus on the personality-driven political gossip of the day than on the gravity of these challenges. So, at risk of disappointing the chattering class, let me make clear what is foremost on my mind and where my focus will be:
I am deeply concerned about President Obama's cap-and-trade energy plan, and I believe it is an enormous threat to our economy. It would undermine our recovery over the short term and would inflict permanent damage.
American prosperity has always been driven by the steady supply of abundant, affordable energy. Particularly in Alaska, we understand the inherent link between energy and prosperity, energy and opportunity, and energy and security. Consequently, many of us in this huge, energy-rich state recognize that the president's cap-and-trade energy tax would adversely affect every aspect of the U.S. economy.
There is no denying that as the world becomes more industrialized, we need to reform our energy policy and become less dependent on foreign energy sources. But the answer doesn't lie in making energy scarcer and more expensive! Those who understand the issue know we can meet our energy needs and environmental challenges without destroying America's economy.
Job losses are so certain under this new cap-and-tax plan that it includes a provision accommodating newly unemployed workers from the resulting dried-up energy sector, to the tune of $4.2 billion over eight years. So much for creating jobs.
In addition to immediately increasing unemployment in the energy sector, even more American jobs will be threatened by the rising cost of doing business under the cap-and-tax plan. For example, the cost of farming will certainly increase, driving down farm incomes while driving up grocery prices. The costs of manufacturing, warehousing and transportation will also increase.
The ironic beauty in this plan? Soon, even the most ardent liberal will understand supply-side economics.
The Americans hit hardest will be those already struggling to make ends meet. As the president eloquently puts it, their electricity bills will "necessarily skyrocket." So much for not raising taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year.
Even Warren Buffett, an ardent Obama supporter, admitted that under the cap-and-tax scheme, "poor people are going to pay a lot more for electricity."
We must move in a new direction. We are ripe for economic growth and energy independence if we responsibly tap the resources that God created right underfoot on American soil. Just as important, we have more desire and ability to protect the environment than any foreign nation from which we purchase energy today.
In Alaska, we are progressing on the largest private-sector energy project in history. Our 3,000-mile natural gas pipeline will transport hundreds of trillions of cubic feet of our clean natural gas to hungry markets across America. We can safely drill for U.S. oil offshore and in a tiny, 2,000-acre corner of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge if ever given the go-ahead by Washington bureaucrats.
Of course, Alaska is not the sole source of American energy. Many states have abundant coal, whose technology is continuously making it into a cleaner energy source. Westerners literally sit on mountains of oil and gas, and every state can consider the possibility of nuclear energy.
We have an important choice to make. Do we want to control our energy supply and its environmental impact? Or, do we want to outsource it to China, Russia and Saudi Arabia? Make no mistake: President Obama's plan will result in the latter.
For so many reasons, we can't afford to kill responsible domestic energy production or clobber every American consumer with higher prices.
Can America produce more of its own energy through strategic investments that protect the environment, revive our economy and secure our nation?
Yes, we can. Just not with Barack Obama's energy cap-and-tax plan.
The writer, a Republican, is governor of Alaska.
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PALIN TO OBAMA: "NOW THE GLOVES ARE OFF!"
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The writer, a Republican, is governor of Alaska.
Who is a whinebag that quit and is disliked by her own party. ::)
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Who is a whinebag that quit and is disliked by her own party. ::)
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I bet she didn't even write that piece it's all ghost written.
Her words aren't worth a grain of salt she QUIT her post as governor. Quitters aren't american they're french so Palin is le frog
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I bet she didn't even write that piece it's all ghost written.
Her words aren't worth a grain of salt she QUIT her post as governor. Quitters aren't american they're french so Palin is le frog
Dem. Sen. McCaskill:
"Cap & Trade makes the USA look like suckers"
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Cap and Trade is a great thing. America needs to wake up and smell the green energy alternatives. Instead of funding big oil and overseas countries in the middle east, create jobs and enterprise in america and get companies to drop their emissions.
When it passes it'll be a great day for America and the world.
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Cap and Trade is a great thing. America needs to wake up and smell the green energy alternatives. Instead of funding big oil and overseas countries in the middle east, create jobs and enterprise in america and get companies to drop their emissions.
When it passes it'll be a great day for America and the world.
1. Spain: 2.2 jobs lost for every "green job" created at a cost of 800k per job.
2. UK: Average family pays 1k a year in more taxes
3. Germany: 23% higher electric bills.
4. Read Taibi's article in Rolling Stone how this is a massive giveway to GS.
5. There are no alternative energy sources.
6. "Green Jobs" is a lie.
You want more?
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Who is a whinebag that quit and is disliked by her own party. ::)
Which has nothing to do with the points made in the article. Aren't you the guy who was exposed in the Fox thread?
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As usual, the most in depth response you are able to formulate.
Much like Palin actually having written that article.
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As usual, the most in depth response you are able to formulate.
Much like Palin actually having written that article.
She actually knows about energy issues you dope. She was president of an energy commission and negotiated a pipeline deal for Alaska.
Why dont you debate this topic instead of your typical nonsense posts attacking her.
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Cap and Trade is a great thing. America needs to wake up and smell the green energy alternatives. Instead of funding big oil and overseas countries in the middle east, create jobs and enterprise in america and get companies to drop their emissions.
When it passes it'll be a great day for America and the world.
please post a list of pros for cap and trade
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please post a list of pros for cap and trade
He cant. Even Dem Senators are against this madness.
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He cant. Even Dem Senators are against this madness.
i wish someone would.
kcballer says it's a great thing so i would think he can post a list of pros.
come on kcballer, all i've read is how terrible the cap and trade bill is, and it does indeed seem horrible. can you post your side so we can be informed or at least weigh the pros and cons
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The fact "she" or whoever wrote the article is trying to attack on an issue that is DOA no matter what is pathetic. Why not try to attack on issues that could pass? Oh... no substance there to do so.
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The fact "she" or whoever wrote the article is trying to attack on an issue that is DOA no matter what is pathetic. Why not try to attack on issues that could pass? Oh... no substance there to do so.
It was supposed to be DOA in the house too.
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The fact "she" or whoever wrote the article is trying to attack on an issue that is DOA no matter what is pathetic. Why not try to attack on issues that could pass? Oh... no substance there to do so.
you don't think cap and trade will pass?
what do you think of the bill?
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She actually knows about energy issues you dope. She was president of an energy commission and negotiated a pipeline deal for Alaska.
Mccain told us Palin knows more about energy than anyone else in America.
pretty amazing. You can get a journalism degree and work a year for an oil company and know more about energy than people with PhDs and decades of experience.
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As usual, the most in depth response you are able to formulate.
Much like Palin actually having written that article.
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Mccain told us Palin knows more about energy than anyone else in America.
pretty amazing. You can get a journalism degree and work a year for an oil company and know more about energy than people with PhDs and decades of experience.
you know 240, you are on to something.
I never knew being a community organizer qualified one to:
Know exactly what the country needs for the car industry, health industry, energy, banks, unions, etc.
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1. Spain: 2.2 jobs lost for every "green job" created at a cost of 800k per job.
2. UK: Average family pays 1k a year in more taxes
3. Germany: 23% higher electric bills.
4. Read Taibi's article in Rolling Stone how this is a massive giveway to GS.
5. There are no alternative energy sources.
6. "Green Jobs" is a lie.
You want more?
Don't forget that it really did nothing to lower carbon emissions and the very people who pushed for it and set up the trading exchanges profited greatly (in the billions) from it. And never mind the facts and never mind that the only thing it did was have each govt. give its industries a larger share of the credits to trade so they could be protected. Never mind that China and India aren't going to do a similar Cap and Trade and will gain a huge advantage from it. Or that our own industries will probably just offshore whatever is left of our manufacturing there as well to avoid this tax madness.
It didn't work, it doesn't work. If it worked and Europe was a shinning example of it working than I would be for it. But Europe is an example of its failure. But that doesn't seem to bother many people on here.
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The fact "she" or whoever wrote the article is trying to attack on an issue that is DOA no matter what is pathetic.
don't know if she wrote it or not but kind of off-topic:
do you think obama understands and believes everything he states in his speeches?
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you don't think cap and trade will pass?
what do you think of the bill?
No won't pass.
I think it is crap.
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The 'Cap And Tax' Dead End
By Sarah Palin
Washington Post - Op-Ed
Tuesday, July 14, 2009
There is no shortage of threats to our economy. America's unemployment rate recently hit its highest mark in more than 25 years and is expected to continue climbing. Worries are widespread that even when the economy finally rebounds, the recovery won't bring jobs. Our nation's debt is unsustainable, and the federal government's reach into the private sector is unprecedented.
Unfortunately, many in the national media would rather focus on the personality-driven political gossip of the day than on the gravity of these challenges. So, at risk of disappointing the chattering class, let me make clear what is foremost on my mind and where my focus will be:
I am deeply concerned about President Obama's cap-and-trade energy plan, and I believe it is an enormous threat to our economy. It would undermine our recovery over the short term and would inflict permanent damage.
American prosperity has always been driven by the steady supply of abundant, affordable energy. Particularly in Alaska, we understand the inherent link between energy and prosperity, energy and opportunity, and energy and security. Consequently, many of us in this huge, energy-rich state recognize that the president's cap-and-trade energy tax would adversely affect every aspect of the U.S. economy.
There is no denying that as the world becomes more industrialized, we need to reform our energy policy and become less dependent on foreign energy sources. But the answer doesn't lie in making energy scarcer and more expensive! Those who understand the issue know we can meet our energy needs and environmental challenges without destroying America's economy.
Job losses are so certain under this new cap-and-tax plan that it includes a provision accommodating newly unemployed workers from the resulting dried-up energy sector, to the tune of $4.2 billion over eight years. So much for creating jobs.
In addition to immediately increasing unemployment in the energy sector, even more American jobs will be threatened by the rising cost of doing business under the cap-and-tax plan. For example, the cost of farming will certainly increase, driving down farm incomes while driving up grocery prices. The costs of manufacturing, warehousing and transportation will also increase.
The ironic beauty in this plan? Soon, even the most ardent liberal will understand supply-side economics.
The Americans hit hardest will be those already struggling to make ends meet. As the president eloquently puts it, their electricity bills will "necessarily skyrocket." So much for not raising taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year.
Even Warren Buffett, an ardent Obama supporter, admitted that under the cap-and-tax scheme, "poor people are going to pay a lot more for electricity."
We must move in a new direction. We are ripe for economic growth and energy independence if we responsibly tap the resources that God created right underfoot on American soil. Just as important, we have more desire and ability to protect the environment than any foreign nation from which we purchase energy today.
In Alaska, we are progressing on the largest private-sector energy project in history. Our 3,000-mile natural gas pipeline will transport hundreds of trillions of cubic feet of our clean natural gas to hungry markets across America. We can safely drill for U.S. oil offshore and in a tiny, 2,000-acre corner of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge if ever given the go-ahead by Washington bureaucrats.
Of course, Alaska is not the sole source of American energy. Many states have abundant coal, whose technology is continuously making it into a cleaner energy source. Westerners literally sit on mountains of oil and gas, and every state can consider the possibility of nuclear energy.
We have an important choice to make. Do we want to control our energy supply and its environmental impact? Or, do we want to outsource it to China, Russia and Saudi Arabia? Make no mistake: President Obama's plan will result in the latter.
For so many reasons, we can't afford to kill responsible domestic energy production or clobber every American consumer with higher prices.
Can America produce more of its own energy through strategic investments that protect the environment, revive our economy and secure our nation?
Yes, we can. Just not with Barack Obama's energy cap-and-tax plan.
The writer, a Republican, is governor of Alaska.
________________________ ________________________ ______
PALIN TO OBAMA: "NOW THE GLOVES ARE OFF!"
dude...the post was credible until you posted the pics, you're beginning to resemble a football fan...loyal but slightly nuts ;D
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All for a joke. Calm down.
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your right,,,it means more jobs for american people for the people,,,written by also
Cap and Trade is a great thing. America needs to wake up and smell the green energy alternatives. Instead of funding big oil and overseas countries in the middle east, create jobs and enterprise in america and get companies to drop their emissions.
When it passes it'll be a great day for America and the world.
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No won't pass.
hope you're right
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your right,,,it means more jobs for american people for the people,,,written by also
Says who?
In Spain they lost 2.2 jobs for every job they created with this disaster.
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Says who?
In Spain they lost 2.2 jobs for every job they created with this disaster.
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1. Spain: 2.2 jobs lost for every "green job" created at a cost of 800k per job.
2. UK: Average family pays 1k a year in more taxes
3. Germany: 23% higher electric bills.
4. Read Taibi's article in Rolling Stone how this is a massive giveway to GS.
5. There are no alternative energy sources.
6. "Green Jobs" is a lie.
You want more?
I didn't realise spain was america?
Same for all the other countries.
no alternative sources huh? really?
green jobs are not a lie you just are too stuck in your right wing ways to get your head out your ass.
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I didn't realise spain was america?
Same for all the other countries.
no alternative sources huh? really?
green jobs are not a lie you just are too stuck in your right wing ways to get your head out your ass.
The cap & trade plan Obama is pushing is modeled after what they did in Europe. So, we can reasonably assume that the effect it had over there will be the same here. Oh yeah, they dont have Goldman Sachs getting billions of their money, so maybe are will be just a little worse.
Tell me the "alternative energy" that can replace oil coal and nuclear at the same or cheaper cost without govt subsidies?
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you know 240, you are on to something.
I never knew being a community organizer qualified one to:
Know exactly what the country needs for the car industry, health industry, energy, banks, unions, etc.
Owned!
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I bet she didn't even write that piece it's all ghost written.
Her words aren't worth a grain of salt she QUIT her post as governor. Quitters aren't american they're french so Palin is le frog
Ditto!
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Ditto!
I think your only saying because she is a woman,,,proven fact on the boards you hate all woman except if they pop out a boy ::)
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We must move in a new direction. We are ripe for economic growth and energy independence if we responsibly tap the resources that God created right underfoot on American soil.
Not worth mentioning that the dinosaurs had a lot more to do with that oil being there than God, I suppose.
Epic irony in a creationist 'tapping' into million year old resources.
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Not worth mentioning that the dinosaurs had a lot more to do with that oil being there than God, I suppose.
Epic irony in a creationist 'tapping' into million year old resources.
Ah, Oil does not come from dinosaurs. The 'fossil' in 'fossil fuels' refers to a geological period, not the ancient remains of mammals.
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Ah, Oil does not come from dinosaurs. The 'fossil' in 'fossil fuels' refers to a geological period, not the ancient remains of mammals.
comment from pedant noted.
Shall we settle on carbon based life forms ?
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No pedro, we can't settle on that. The russian-ukranian theory of oil(modern theory), pretty clearly debunks the notion that oil comes from once living beings. Do a little research about it, its quite interesting.