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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 14, 2009, 06:52:07 PM
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For the past couple of months, you've been talking a lot of shit about Kamali's supplement.
However, since you're so willing to talk about him...why don't we discuss what YOU SELL
I'm waiting juice monkey
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you all sell crap so stop trying to one up each other and pretend you are selling decent stuff ::)
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For the past couple of months, you've been talking a lot of shit about Kamali's supplement.
However, since you're so willing to talk about him...why don't we discuss what YOU SELL
I'm waiting juice monkey
Johns product line is solid. At the very least he can say that he is doing this as someone who talks the talk and walks the walk. Compare his physique, knowledge, and business sense with yours. Not much comparison is there?
He preps people for shows, makes custom products beyond his own line for people he trains, and to top it all off....isnt some nut job 'internet legend' like you.
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Johns product line is solid. At the very least he can say that he is doing this as someone who talks the talk and walks the walk. Compare his physique, knowledge, and business sense with yours. Not much comparison is there?
He preps people for shows, makes custom products beyond his own line for people he trains, and to top it all off....isnt some nut job 'internet legend' like you.
To be fair , Vince does molest Queen Vissy's asshole like its going out of fashion.
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Johns product line is solid.
He sells a bunch of fraudulent products. That's just a fact. Would you use ephedra viridis or "ephedra leaf" when dieting thinking it will work like ephedra sinica?
His labeling is fraudulent and illegal on many of his products. Not to mention that they can't even spell right. Horribly amateurish presentation. I'm sure John wrote out the labels himself, although he denies it. But whoever did them is dyslexic, just like John.
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He sells a bunch of fraudulent products. That's just a fact. Would you use ephedra viridis or "ephedra leaf" when dieting thinking it will work like ephedra sinica?
His labeling is fraudulent and illegal on many of his products. Not to mention that they can't even spell right. Horribly amateurish presentation. I'm sure John wrote out the labels himself, although he denies it. But whoever did them is dyslexic, just like John.
Are there things VanB?
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Johns product line is solid. At the very least he can say that he is doing this as someone who talks the talk and walks the walk. Compare his physique, knowledge, and business sense with yours. Not much comparison is there?
He preps people for shows, makes custom products beyond his own line for people he trains, and to top it all off....isnt some nut job 'internet legend' like you.
What's the name of his company? I might want to order something before gh15 brings it down.
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Looks like some people are just itching to be dragged to the Broken Jaw Tavern by Big Wes for a knuckle sandwich >:(
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you all sell crap so stop trying to one up each other and pretend you are selling decent stuff ::)
Oh you again.......buzz off.
Ignoring this loser, GetitonNY has a lot of explaining to do about selling this stuff. I know he's making a ton of money off of this racket knowing that there are no active alkaloids whatsoever in that stuff he sells.
I'm still waiting, juice monkey
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Looks like some people are just itching to be dragged to the Broken Jaw Tavern by Big Wes for a knuckle sandwich >:(
Settle down "antcraw"
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He sells a bunch of fraudulent products. That's just a fact. Would you use ephedra viridis or "ephedra leaf" when dieting thinking it will work like ephedra sinica?
His labeling is fraudulent and illegal on many of his products. Not to mention that they can't even spell right. Horribly amateurish presentation. I'm sure John wrote out the labels himself, although he denies it. But whoever did them is dyslexic, just like John.
Dude....you've been riding his nutsack for some time now. So long, in fact, I would imagine you ride it so hard you probably know what size his cock might lean to. Wow. What the fuck do you honestly have against John?
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Are there things VanB?
:D
I would be scared to ingest anything coming from John's company. You'd have NO idea what you just took. Just look at the labeling.
What's the name of his company? I might want to order something before gh15 brings it down.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/exl.htm
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When Vince G. comes out with his new product line they will be of the highest quality.
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Settle down "antcraw"
Hahahahaha why don't you post under your real account, "RUDE BUOY"? ::)
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ARE YOU SAYING 600GRAMS OF PROTEIN A DAY IS NOT WORTH IT,,,
He sells a bunch of fraudulent products. That's just a fact. Would you use ephedra viridis or "ephedra leaf" when dieting thinking it will work like ephedra sinica?
His labeling is fraudulent and illegal on many of his products. Not to mention that they can't even spell right. Horribly amateurish presentation. I'm sure John wrote out the labels himself, although he denies it. But whoever did them is dyslexic, just like John.
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Oh you again.......buzz off.
Ignoring this loser, GetitonNY has a lot of explaining to do about selling this stuff. I know he's making a ton of money off of this racket knowing that there are no active alkaloids whatsoever in that stuff he sells.
I'm still waiting, juice monkey
All expired anal lube
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Dude....you've been riding his nutsack for some time now. So long, in fact, I would imagine you ride it so hard you probably know what size his cock might lean to. Wow. What the fuck do you honestly have against John?
Well, I don't care about him, but he just happens to post here and he's a very easy target.
I wonder what John has against Kamali, Disgusted and Plazmosis, though? I didn't find anything really questionable when reading the Plazmosis label, unlike John's stuff. Not that I would buy it but it wasn't obviously fraudulent and illegal. A supplement scammer hating on another supplement seller. What's up with that? ???
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Hahahahaha why don't you post under your real account, "RUDE BUOY"? ::)
You changed the password "UK GOLD" ;D
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Looks like some people are just itching to be dragged to the Broken Jaw Tavern by Big Wes for a knuckle sandwich >:(
Um, did you say "Big Wes"?
** looks down at the floor while quietly tip-toeing out of the room **
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You changed the password "UK GOLD" ;D
One more unfair, low blow like that and I'm done with this game >:(
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:D
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/exl.htm
Thanks VanB. I want to pick up a few things because I figure in a few years they'll be a collector's item.
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All you have to do is look at his Blade Hardcore product. He even tries to cover it up by listing the ingredient as "Ephedra Leaf" and puts 25mg in it similar to what used to be in the other fat burners back in the day.
Ephedra Viridis is nothing more than a worthless WEED that grows abundantly out in the west. There are no thermogenic properties in it whatsoever and he only put that stuff in there for NAME RECOGNITION.
If he's going to throw rocks at Kamali's company then he shouldn't be living in a glass house. He's making a ton of money off that shit and that just isn't right to deceive people
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One more unfair, low blow like that and I'm done with this game >:(
Fine , be like that , im going to go bump all the old threads on the V board for shits and giggles :D
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All you have to do is look at his Blade Hardcore product. He even tries to cover it up by listing the ingredient as "Ephedra Leaf" and puts 25mg in it similar to what used to be in the other fat burners back in the day.
Ephedra Viridis is nothing more than a worthless WEED that grows abundantly out in the west. There are no thermogenic properties in it whatsoever and he only put that stuff in there for NAME RECOGNITION.
If he's going to throw rocks at Kamali's company then he shouldn't be living in a glass house. He's making a ton of money off that shit and that just isn't right to deceive people
STOP pretending to be some GURU o nutrtion all of a sudden - what a load of shit
GOODCUM NUTRACUETICALS = GONNA FAIL, ITS A GIVEN so just pack it up now and stop being something your NOT
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STOP pretending to be some GURU o nutrtion all of a sudden - what a load of shit
GOODCUM NUTRACUETICALS = GONNA FAIL, ITS A GIVEN so just pack it up now and stop being something your NOT
Spike are you suggesting that Venom Vince should stick to what he does best? That being , sucking his own ball gravey out of Vissys rectum , gargling it before gulping it down and screaming "Goodrums Gourmet Whey Choclate Mud aint no "whey" Im going Catabolic"
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All you have to do is look at his Blade Hardcore product. He even tries to cover it up by listing the ingredient as "Ephedra Leaf" and puts 25mg in it similar to what used to be in the other fat burners back in the day.
Ephedra Viridis is nothing more than a worthless WEED that grows abundantly out in the west. There are no thermogenic properties in it whatsoever and he only put that stuff in there for NAME RECOGNITION.
If he's going to throw rocks at Kamali's company then he shouldn't be living in a glass house. He's making a ton of money off that shit and that just isn't right to deceive people
I am sure you will want everyone on Getbig to make sure they contact as many people, distributors and online stores as possible to make sure they all know the type of moron you are and fake to make sure no one carries your product. Now this of course will only work if in fact you are actually doing something this stupid. Pretty sure it is all talk like ALL your other stupid ideas. What happen did Vissy quit sucking your dick
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Well, I don't care about him, but he just happens to post here and he's a very easy target.
I wonder what John has against Kamali, Disgusted and Plazmosis, though? I didn't find anything really questionable when reading the Plazmosis label, unlike John's stuff. Not that I would buy it but it wasn't obviously fraudulent and illegal. A supplement scammer hating on another supplement seller. What's up with that? ???
Odd thing is that most everyone busted on the whole Plasmosis thing. We all knew it was bullshit. Whats so bullshit about John's protein powders? As far as his Blade hardcore Vince...I've used the ephedra free one and let me tell you...its pretty damn good. Got a hell of a bang out of it. Let me guess...the 'fat burner' you carry will have its primary ingredient being BEE POLLEN. Go back to shilling for bow flex numbnuts.
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Odd thing is that most everyone busted on the whole Plasmosis thing. We all knew it was bullshit. Whats so bullshit about John's protein powders? As far as his Blade hardcore Vince...I've used the ephedra free one and let me tell you...its pretty damn good. Got a hell of a bang out of it. Let me guess...the 'fat burner' you carry will have its primary ingredient being BEE POLLEN. Go back to shilling for bow flex numbnuts.
I'm not talking about the protein but the other shit. The hormones and fat burners. For example, WTF is "8 XOX" (Arrimadext XT)? Would you take this if you just had a label to go by?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/arremadextxt.html
As far as the Blade Hardcore it's obviously a product that tries to fool the naive. 10mg of Ginger?
"Calming Herb Complex" 20mg?? (those ingredients are far too low dosed to do anything - only there to fool the customer). Absolutely ridiculous amount of caffeine and synephrine per cap. And this "$-Hydroxyphenyl" WTF!!!???
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/blade30.html
Only an idiot would take these.
As far as him blasting the Plazmosis, how does he have the balls to do that while selling this shit?!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/throttle.html
And this
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/nx.html
That label is a laugh riot. Like a retard wrote it.
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I'm not talking about the protein but the other shit. The hormones and fat burners. For example, WTF is "8 XOX" (Arrimadext XT)? Would you take this if you just had a label to go by?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/arremadextxt.html
As far as the Blade Hardcore it's obviously a product that tries to fool the naive. 10mg of Ginger?
"Calming Herb Complex" 20mg?? (those ingredients are far too low dosed to do anything - only there to fool the customer). Absolutely ridiculous amount of caffeine and synephrine per cap. And this "$-Hydroxyphenyl" WTF!!!???
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/blade30.html
Only an idiot would take these.
As far as him blasting the Plazmosis, how does he have the balls to do that while selling this shit?!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/throttle.html
And this
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/nx.html
That label is a laugh riot. Like a retard wrote it.
As far as taking something with only looking at a label...umm....only a dumb shit would do that. Research out ingredients. If you dont understand something...ask the company. I do. I found the Blade Hardcore a very good product. Could only take one cap of it...versus being able to do full three with Lipo6. Got more of the jitters from Johns than the Nutrex stuff. What makes the Full Throttle a laugh riot? I am being serious here. Have you ever tried some of his stuff? Did he shill his products like Kamali did with Plazmosis? Does he claim it to be the greatest thing since a shaved vagina??? Nope...hes humble in his company and what it has to offer. He is extremely (no pun) helpful and giving of his time. Perhaps you would see that if you werent just out to bash the guy. Do something more productive....like bash Melvin....while I know its like taking candy from a baby, it still is way more fun than fucking with John
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As far as taking something with only looking at a label...umm....only a dumb shit would do that. Research out ingredients. If you dont understand something...ask the company. I do. I found the Blade Hardcore a very good product. Could only take one cap of it...versus being able to do full three with Lipo6. Got more of the jitters from Johns than the Nutrex stuff. What makes the Full Throttle a laugh riot? I am being serious here. Have you ever tried some of his stuff? Did he shill his products like Kamali did with Plazmosis? Does he claim it to be the greatest thing since a shaved vagina??? Nope...hes humble in his company and what it has to offer. He is extremely (no pun) helpful and giving of his time. Perhaps you would see that if you werent just out to bash the guy. Do something more productive....like bash Melvin....while I know its like taking candy from a baby, it still is way more fun than fucking with John
I'm not going to ask John. I've tried it in the past. His answer will be posting my pic with the cowboy hat on. My post was to show you how he mislabels product and how poorly formulated they are.
You got jitters? What did I say? I said, "absolutely ridiculous amount of caffeine and synephrine per cap". There's the reason. And I'm also pretty sure you didn't "research" what "$-Hydroxyphenyl" was before you put it in your body, am I right?
I'm not going to try something with mystery ingredients, horribly misspelled labels, etc.
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One more unfair, low blow like that and I'm done with this game >:(
you seriously are rude buoy and okgold?
geesh
why is it so hard to be your fucking self here :-\
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For the past couple of months, you've been talking a lot of shit about Kamali's supplement.
However, since you're so willing to talk about him...why don't we discuss what YOU SELL
I'm waiting juice monkey
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this guy cant even plan his own "nutrition". what a clown.
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you seriously are rude buoy and okgold?
geesh
why is it so hard to be your fucking self here :-\
Lol we are just taking the piss out of each other mate :D
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you seriously are rude buoy and okgold?
geesh
why is it so hard to be your fucking self here :-\
Nah, just kidding around. This is the only account I've ever had and will have here, Sev.
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Oh you again.......buzz off.
Ignoring this loser, GetitonNY has a lot of explaining to do about selling this stuff. I know he's making a ton of money off of this racket knowing that there are no active alkaloids whatsoever in that stuff he sells.
I'm still waiting, juice monkey
you look like crap and sell crap, please buzz yourself off and do us all a favor and go hang yourself you worthless turd!
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I'm not going to ask John. I've tried it in the past. His answer will be posting my pic with the cowboy hat on. My post was to show you how he mislabels product and how poorly formulated they are.
You got jitters? What did I say? I said, "absolutely ridiculous amount of caffeine and synephrine per cap". There's the reason. And I'm also pretty sure you didn't "research" what "$-Hydroxyphenyl" was before you put it in your body, am I right?
I'm not going to try something with mystery ingredients, horribly misspelled labels, etc.
Actually the bottle I have of the Blade Hardcore (Ephedra free) does not show the $-Hydroxy on it...so there is no need to research something I dont see. I will gladly take a pic of it if you like. The ingredients are based on a 2 cap dose. So, the synephrine is 37.5mg and the caffeine is 100mg. How is that a ridiculous dose? What makes them poorly formatted? What suggestions would you have? I am sure if you didnt come across like you have done with him, that he would explain/listen. I have talked to John...he really does want to get peoples feedback. Send him a PM....try being civil. Other than that, I would hope you attack anyone else who shills out products that you dont like or agree with. We both know there are a shitload of them out there. I am not being a dick in my posts...just trying to understand your perspective and maybe bridge the communication between you and him.
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I've already said what I had to say. As far as the rest of his products, I have no issue with them although his Throttle formula is not much different from Plasmosis. But problably better than Plasmosis
Point being, he put an ingredient in his Blade product purely for name purposes to sell more product. Ephedra Viridis has no purpose whatsoever in a supplement and he needs to take it out next time he makes a run of that product
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He sells a bunch of fraudulent products. That's just a fact. Would you use ephedra viridis or "ephedra leaf" when dieting thinking it will work like ephedra sinica?
His labeling is fraudulent and illegal on many of his products. Not to mention that they can't even spell right. Horribly amateurish presentation. I'm sure John wrote out the labels himself, although he denies it. But whoever did them is dyslexic, just like John.
LOL. Van is not even trying to be polite, anymore. Probably got tired of all the effort. :D
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Is the movie "Kung Fu Panda" based on a true story? I think it must be.
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I've already said what I had to say. As far as the rest of his products, I have no issue with them although his Throttle formula is not much different from Plasmosis. But problably better than Plasmosis
Point being, he put an ingredient in his Blade product purely for name purposes to sell more product. Ephedra Viridis has no purpose whatsoever in a supplement and he needs to take it out next time he makes a run of that product
Like Bee Pollen?
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Actually the bottle I have of the Blade Hardcore (Ephedra free) does not show the $-Hydroxy on it...so there is no need to research something I dont see. I will gladly take a pic of it if you like. The ingredients are based on a 2 cap dose. So, the synephrine is 37.5mg and the caffeine is 100mg. How is that a ridiculous dose? What makes them poorly formatted? What suggestions would you have? I am sure if you didnt come across like you have done with him, that he would explain/listen. I have talked to John...he really does want to get peoples feedback. Send him a PM....try being civil. Other than that, I would hope you attack anyone else who shills out products that you dont like or agree with. We both know there are a shitload of them out there. I am not being a dick in my posts...just trying to understand your perspective and maybe bridge the communication between you and him.
Then the labels are wrong on bb.com, unless I'm reading it wrong. ??? Just adds to the unprofessional presentation.
Blade Hardcore, 300mg caffeine per cap http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/blade.html
Blade Hardcore 3.0, 350mg caffeine per cap http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/blade30.html
It's the 3.0 version that has the $-ingredient.
It's not the shilling per se that I disagree with. If Dante mentions that he has good whey isolate here and there on the board, so what. If John said the same, who cares. It's the arrogance, complaining about other companies, complaining about their filler ingredients (the ginger and calming herb complex in John's product), dishonest marketing (the ephedra leaf is only there to fool the naive), etc. It's like Alex23 complaining about racism and gimmicks when he's the worst offender here.
John should be able to take the (fair) criticism as he's not been the nicest and the most diplomatic guy here himself. I'm a nice guy really. ;)
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Then the labels are wrong on bb.com, unless I'm reading it wrong. ??? Just adds to the unprofessional presentation.
Blade Hardcore, 300mg caffeine per cap http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/blade.html
Blade Hardcore 3.0, 350mg caffeine per cap http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/exl/blade30.html
It's the 3.0 version that has the $-ingredient.
It's not the shilling per se that I disagree with. If Dante mentions that he has good whey isolate here and there on the board, so what. If John said the same, who cares. It's the arrogance, complaining about other companies, complaining about their filler ingredients (the ginger and calming herb complex in John's product), dishonest marketing (the ephedra leaf is only there to fool the naive), etc. It's like Alex23 complaining about racism and gimmicks when he's the worst offender here.
John should be able to take the (fair) criticism as he's not been the nicest and the most diplomatic guy here himself. I'm a nice guy really. ;)
Says on the bottle here that a serving is 2 caps. Dont know what to say about all the others. Have you ever checked the other products by TrueProtein? Maybe they sell things that you wouldnt agree with. Do you fight with Vince about the products he carries? I know if I had someone come at me like you have done to John I would be on the defensive as well. I dont think John is as bad as you make him out to be.
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Says on the bottle here that a serving is 2 caps. Dont know what to say about all the others. Have you ever checked the other products by TrueProtein? Maybe they sell things that you wouldnt agree with. Do you fight with Vince about the products he carries? I know if I had someone come at me like you have done to John I would be on the defensive as well. I dont think John is as bad as you make him out to be.
I'm not in the US so I haven't really checked out TP but from my understanding they mostly sell "raws", if you can call it that. Not products with proprietary blends, secret ingredients, underdosed filler ingredients that look great on the label, and fraudulent nomenclature. Dante is smart and doesn't open himself up to criticism by behaving stupidly and making absurd claims.
There's tons of supplement companies that sell crap obviously. But like I said the reason I bust on John is the way he behaves here on GB. I read and can't help commenting. :P John may say he has a secret waxy maize product only he has access to that performs much better than Vitargo. He has nothing to back that up with. He flames the hell out of Kamali and Plazmosis yet sells a couple of products in the same class. I saw some issues with the ingredients and labeling too. Plazmosis wasn't excessively shilled here IMO. Disgusted had a thread or two about it on the positive board.
As far as Vince I feel a bit sorry for him. I don't know but I don't see how he can get any business with a small personal label. Why would anyone buy from him? I saw his thread and it wasn't anything fancy so I have no problem with the products themselves, except maybe the DHEA 200mg. That's a stupid high dosage that can cause problems.
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Oh yeah, now that I think of it there was one question mark about one TP product.
It was the beef protein isolate.