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This is dumb. Throwing away his career over something like this?
Soldier Who Claims Obama Isn't Legal President Doesn't Have to Deploy
U.S. Army Major Stefan Frederick Cook, who volunteered for duty in May, says he would be committing a crime to serve under Barack Obama because he believes Obama was born outside of the United States, making him ineligible to become president.
FOXNews.com
Wednesday, July 15, 2009
A reserve soldier has been granted his request not to deploy to Afghanistan because he believes Barack Obama's presidency is not legitimate, the Columbus, Ga., Ledger-Enquirer reported Wednesday.
U.S. Army Major Stefan Frederick Cook, who volunteered for duty in May, says he would be committing a crime to serve under Obama because he believes Obama was born outside of the United States, making him ineligible to become president.
Lt. Col. Maria Quon, an Army spokeswoman, told the newspaper that Cook was no longer expected to report Wednesday to MacDill Air Force Base in Florida for mobilization to active duty.
Cook filed a request last week in federal court seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector through his attorney, Orly Taitz, the newspaper reported.
Taitz, who has challenged the legitimacy of Obama's presidency in other courts, asked the court to consider granting her client's request based upon Cook's belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.
Cook states he "would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President's command, simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties."
Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, two years after it became a state.
Cook is an "individual mobilization augmentee," or a reserve soldier assigned to an active component unit for duty, the newspaper said. He submitted a formal written request to Human Resources Command-St. Louis on May 8 volunteering to serve on year in Afghanistan.
A hearing on Cook's request will take place Thursday in federal court in Columbus, Ga.
Incidentally, Cook did not have to hire a lawyer to refuse his orders to go to Afghanistan. As a reserve soldier and volunteer, he has the right to revoke his deployment orders.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/15/soldier-claims-obama-isnt-legal-president-doesnt-deploy/
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Birther Soldier Fired From His Civilian Defense Contracting Job
According to Orly Taitz, the attorney for Maj. Stefan F. Cook, the reservist who has asked not to be sent to Afghanistan unless President Barack Obama provides more proof of his American citizenship has been fired from his job.
Source: Washington Independent
By David Weigel 7/15/09 3:00 PM
According to Orly Taitz, the attorney for Maj. Stefan F. Cook, the reservist who has asked not to be sent to Afghanistan unless President Barack Obama provides more proof of his American citizenship has been fired from his job. In Taitz’s application for injunction, she recounts what happened after the Department of Defense revoked its request to Cook.
Plaintiff Major Cook called his civilian boss, the CEO of Simtech, Inc. … The CEO of Simtech, Inc., Larry Grice, explained to Plaintiff over a series of four conversations within the next two hours, that he had been terminated. Grice told the Plaintiff that he would no longer be welcome in his former position at SOCOM but that Grice wanted to see whether he could find something within the company (Simtech, Inc.) for Cook. The upshot was that at this time Grice did not have anything for Plaintiff to do. Grice told Plaintiff, in essence, that the situation had become “nutty and crazy”, and that Plaintiff would no longer be able to work at his old position.
I’ve asked Cook to confirm all of this.
UPDATE: Cook emailed me and said that Taitz’s account was “correct.” He’s been fired.
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First off he volunteered as opposed to being called up so I have no idea whether he just took his name out of the running or Uncle Sam unvolunteered him. He's also a contractor for a company that works with SOCOM down at Mcdill AFB. His company told him he's not welcome back there. He didn't get fired but he doesn't have a slot either. I'm not sure thats legal but whatever. This guy is an idiot. If u want to make a statement, retire or resign and run for office, start a blog etc. I hate Obama, but the chance to serve my country and do all manner of fun shit, trumps Barry and his bullshit.
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First off he volunteered as opposed to being called up so I have no idea whether he just took his name out of the running or Uncle Sam unvolunteered him. He's also a contractor for a company that works with SOCOM down at Mcdill AFB. His company told him he's not welcome back there. He didn't get fired but he doesn't have a slot either. I'm not sure thats legal but whatever. This guy is an idiot. If u want to make a statement, retire or resign and run for office, start a blog etc. I hate Obama, but the chance to serve my country and do all manner of fun shit, trumps Barry and his bullshit.
Word.
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Nobody in class agree's with this guy, but is did spur a debate on exactly where our oaths lie and what duties we have as an officer corp. It made our instructors job eaiser today.
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Nobody in class agree's with this guy, but is did spur a debate on exactly where our oaths lie and what duties we have as an officer corp. It made our instructors job eaiser today.
You should bring up that traitor Watada tomorrow. :)
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First off he volunteered as opposed to being called up so I have no idea whether he just took his name out of the running or Uncle Sam unvolunteered him. He's also a contractor for a company that works with SOCOM down at Mcdill AFB. His company told him he's not welcome back there. He didn't get fired but he doesn't have a slot either. I'm not sure thats legal but whatever. This guy is an idiot. If u want to make a statement, retire or resign and run for office, start a blog etc. I hate Obama, but the chance to serve my country and do all manner of fun shit, trumps Barry and his bullshit.
He's a reservist, and reservists can apparently change their minds at any point before they are scheduled to deploy. In that sense, the fact that he was granted the request was not unusual.
Obviously, this guy is just attention-whoring. He volunteered for duty AFTER Obama had taken office.
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Can everyone else use the same excuse?
Also, wasn't Obama president in May? This doesn't make any sense.
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Can everyone else use the same excuse?
Also, wasn't Obama president in May? This doesn't make any sense.
Damn, Another Quitter.
Sandra
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What an ignoramus.
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He didn't get fired
It says plain as day he got fired.
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It says plain as day he got fired.
He got fired after he filed this grievance.
WHERE IS THE REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE?????
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He's a reservist, and reservists can apparently change their minds at any point before they are scheduled to deploy. In that sense, the fact that he was granted the request was not unusual.
Obviously, this guy is just attention-whoring. He volunteered for duty AFTER Obama had taken office.
Reservists can't do that but this guy volunteered for what is called a TCS deployment. That is, he goes as an individual agumentee, not part of a unit. Uncle Sam says that we need an 04 to fill a certain job. They looked for volunteers and he raised his hand. This was a stunt, a poor stunt and he lost his job because of it.
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WHERE IS THE REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE?????
hi, partisan conspiracy theorist.
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hi, partisan conspiracy theorist.
240 - serious - where is the real Birth Certificate?
Let's see if we can get Beach to post his and see if it is similar to the thing posted on the WH site?
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This is dumb. Throwing away his career over something like this?
Soldier Who Claims Obama Isn't Legal President Doesn't Have to Deploy
U.S. Army Major Stefan Frederick Cook, who volunteered for duty in May, says he would be committing a crime to serve under Barack Obama because he believes Obama was born outside of the United States, making him ineligible to become president.
FOXNews.com
Wednesday, July 15, 2009
A reserve soldier has been granted his request not to deploy to Afghanistan because he believes Barack Obama's presidency is not legitimate, the Columbus, Ga., Ledger-Enquirer reported Wednesday.
U.S. Army Major Stefan Frederick Cook, who volunteered for duty in May, says he would be committing a crime to serve under Obama because he believes Obama was born outside of the United States, making him ineligible to become president.
Lt. Col. Maria Quon, an Army spokeswoman, told the newspaper that Cook was no longer expected to report Wednesday to MacDill Air Force Base in Florida for mobilization to active duty.
Cook filed a request last week in federal court seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector through his attorney, Orly Taitz, the newspaper reported.
Taitz, who has challenged the legitimacy of Obama's presidency in other courts, asked the court to consider granting her client's request based upon Cook's belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.
Cook states he "would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President's command, simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties."
Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, two years after it became a state.
Cook is an "individual mobilization augmentee," or a reserve soldier assigned to an active component unit for duty, the newspaper said. He submitted a formal written request to Human Resources Command-St. Louis on May 8 volunteering to serve on year in Afghanistan.
A hearing on Cook's request will take place Thursday in federal court in Columbus, Ga.
Incidentally, Cook did not have to hire a lawyer to refuse his orders to go to Afghanistan. As a reserve soldier and volunteer, he has the right to revoke his deployment orders.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/15/soldier-claims-obama-isnt-legal-president-doesnt-deploy/
I thought this was stupid too, Beach. He shouldn't have picked this battle.
Obama's NEVER going to produce that birth certificate. This is the wrong battle.
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240 - serious - where is the real Birth Certificate?
The state of Hawaii said it's real.
Now... let's make this clear... you think an entire US state would cover up this? lol
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The state of Hawaii said it's real.
Now... let's make this clear... you think an entire US state would cover up this? lol
My personal belief is that it says on there that Obama is muslim. That is why he is hiding it.
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My personal belief is that it says on there that Obama is muslim. That is why he is hiding it.
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=obama%20birth%20certificate&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
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http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=obama%20birth%20certificate&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
That is not a bitch certificate.
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My personal belief is that it says on there that Obama is muslim. That is why he is hiding it.
HAHAHAHAHAHA you're a nut! 333 is the new Samson.
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Reservists can't do that but this guy volunteered for what is called a TCS deployment. That is, he goes as an individual agumentee, not part of a unit. Uncle Sam says that we need an 04 to fill a certain job. They looked for volunteers and he raised his hand. This was a stunt, a poor stunt and he lost his job because of it.
True...but. When I got called back from the IRR 600 people were supposed to show up that week. 130 actually came.
After that, we were told that the people who didn't show simply got their orders "rescinded", meaning they get in no trouble whatsoever.
That's a spit in the face of those of us who answered the letter.
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My personal belief is that it says on there that Obama is muslim. That is why he is hiding it.
{LOL} Do they actually list 'religion' on US birth certificates? ???
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{LOL} Do they actually list 'religion' on US birth certificates? ???
Where is the real BC?
There is a very good reason why he is not showing it.
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Where is the real BC?
There is a very good reason why he is not showing it.
Maybe Mohammed has it.
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Maybe Mohammed has it.
Probably. Here is a question for you.
Obama has been sued dozens of times and has spent millions to keep the BC secret. The cases that have been dismissed have not been on the merits, but on standing and jurisdictional issues.
Why would he be spending millions of dollars on legal bills when all he has to do is produce it and sign the FOIL request to let it come out?
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True...but. When I got called back from the IRR 600 people were supposed to show up that week. 130 actually came.
After that, we were told that the people who didn't show simply got their orders "rescinded", meaning they get in no trouble whatsoever.
That's a spit in the face of those of us who answered the letter.
I agree...but this was planned. I'm sure he knew a TCS requirement was coming down the pike and then figured a way to exploite it. The IRR thing is so screwed up because while people knew they owed the time etc....the situations could be avoided. I feel bad for alot of those people.
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This is why Barry needed to put this to bed.......
A controversial suit brought by a U.S. Army reservist has been joined by a retired Army two-star general and an active reserve Air Force lieutenant colonel.
Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook filed the suit July 8 in federal court here asking for conscientious objector status and a preliminary injunction based upon his belief that President Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as president of the United States and commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.
However, before the issue got to court, Cook’s orders to deploy to Afghanistan were revoked. Lt. Col. Maria Quon, a public affairs officer with the U.S. Army Human Resources Command-St. Louis, said Tuesday that Cook was no longer expected to report Wednesday to MacDill Air Force Base in Florida for mobilization to active duty. Cook, who claims he is now the victim of retaliation due to his suit, received his mobilization orders to report for active duty at MacDill on Wednesday. From there, he was to go to Fort Benning on Saturday for deployment to Afghanistan.
March 2009 dismissal of complaint October 2008 dismissal of complaint Soldier balks at deploying; says Obama isn’t president Soldier who says Obama isn't president doesn't have to deploy, Army says Cook is an Individual Mobilization Augmentee. This means he’s a reserve soldier assigned to an active component unit consisting of active duty soldiers instead of a reserve unit, which is composed entirely of reserve soldiers. He is assigned to the U.S. Army Element of U.S. Southern Command.
Last week, Cook filed a request in federal court seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector represented by California attorney Orly Taitz.
The government, in its response to the suit, claims that Cook’s suit is “moot” in that he already has been told he doesn’t have to go to Afghanistan, so the relief he is seeking has been granted.
“The Commanding General of SOCCENT (U.S. Special Operations Central Command) has determined that he does not want the services of Major Cook, and has revoked his deployment orders,” the response states.
In a pleading revised after the revocation of Cook’s orders, Taitz argues that the application for preliminary injunction is not moot and that retired Maj. Gen. Carol Dean Childers and active U.S. Air Force reservist Lt. Col. David Earl Graeff have joined the suit “because it is a matter of unparalleled public interest and importance and because it is clearly a matter arising from issues of a recurring nature that will escape review unless the Court exercises its discretionary jurisdiction.”
Cook’s resubmitted Application for Preliminary Injunction is meant to encompass the possibility of Cook receiving future orders for deployment as well as to address and prevent “negative collateral consequences such as retaliation against Major Stefan Frederick Cook ...”
As to the retaliation issue, the revised suit states Cook lost his job at Simtech Inc., a corporation that does Department of Defense contracting in the field of information technology/systems integration, because of the suit. It also states that Cook has been subjected to “gossip” from people who believed Cook was “manipulating his deployment orders to create a platform for political purposes.”
Taitz, who has challenged the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency in other courts, filed the original suit with the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia. Two similar suits have previously been thrown out of federal court.
In the filing, Cook states he “would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command. … simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties.”
A hearing to discuss Cook’s requests is scheduled to take place in federal court here this morning at 9:30 a.m.