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Nobody else comes close.
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Nobody else comes close.
Spot on 100%
With his work ethic, demeanor, personality and attitude he was able to pave the way for athletes like Tiger Woods and David Beckham etc. There will never be another who will have the impact that MJ did.
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"Spot on 100%
With his work ethic, demeanor, personality and attitude he was able to transform, and pave the way for athletes like Tiger Woods and David Beckham etc. There will never be another who will have the impact that MJ did."
LOL. Wow. That made no sense whatsoever.
David Beckham. I will assume you are joking. You will though, need to look to another sport to choose the best athlete.
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the only reason he was "good" was because he could jump high, had an unstoppable jumpshot, could score a lot, and didn't buckle under pressure.
other than that, he's no better than your typical high school player.
in other news, jordan 7's re-released next month. never had those, will buy when they're out.
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LOL. Wow. That made no sense whatsoever.
David Beckham. I will assume you are joking. You will though, need to look to another sport to choose the best athlete.
Right on, "Razzle"
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the only reason he was "good" was because he could jump high, had an unstoppable jumpshot, could score a lot, and didn't buckle under pressure.
lol just being good at one of those traits you listed makes a guy a great player, he was great at all of them
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Nobody else comes close.
Great post ! Jordan's abilities were second to none
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"lol just being good at one of those traits you listed makes a guy a great player, he was great at all of them
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True, but that does not make him the greatest Athlete.
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"lol just being good at one of those traits you listed makes a guy a great player, he was great at all of them
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True, but that does not make him the greatest Athlete.
i don't know if he's the best or not but who do you think is better?
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i don't know if he's the best or not but who do you think is better?
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At their own sport, hockey, we have Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux, who statistically were much more superior than Jordan. Even Wilt Chamberlain has records that nobody will touch.
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Wayne Gretzky is the greatest athlete ever. Has more records by than Jordan, and holds records by a bigger margin than Jordan.
MJ is a close second thoough.
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jim thorpe and babe ruth the fat bastard way way way way way way ahead of their time.
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"Wayne Gretzky is the greatest athlete ever. Has more records by than Jordan, and holds records by a bigger margin than Jordan.
MJ is a close second thoough."
A definition of "The Greatest Athlete" needs to be defined. In terms of numbers (Stats.) no one has dominated their sport like Wayne Gretzky has, or ever will. Even Wilt Chamberlain holds as many records as Jordan does and he retired in the 70's!!!!!!!!!
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My opinion, Ali.
Best boxer and stood for what he believed in. He didn't care what people thought and it worked out good for him, even when going against the government. Truly a man against all odds.
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He didn't pave the way for anyone, Magic and Bird did it. Magic and Chamberlain were just as good within basketball, in fact anyone watching the '92 olympic team saw that Magic had the bigger influence on the team, as i expected. Magic also won more times against quality competition that Jordan was lucky enough to avoid. Chamerlain has at least the number of records that Jordan did.
That's only within basketball, there are many others.
Those who fawn over Jordan have no depth of perspective. Trend followers.
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My opinion, Ali.
Best boxer and stood for what he believed in. He didn't care what people thought and it worked out good for him, even when going against the government. Truly a man against all odds.
Fuck Ali, why didn't he stand up for Cossell when Howard was railroaded for being a "racist" when Howard was one of the few broadcasters who stood up for Ali not going to Vietnam? He's a sham.
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My opinion, Ali.
Best boxer and stood for what he believed in. He didn't care what people thought and it worked out good for him, even when going against the government. Truly a man against all odds.
Not the best boxer. That's fine that he stood by what he believed in but it hurt his boxing career in terms of skills and "ring rust". Joe Louis was a better heavyweight and Sugar Ray Robinson has a great case for greatest boxer ever.
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Fuck Ali, why didn't he stand up for Cossell when Howard was railroaded for being a "racist" when Howard was one of the few broadcasters who stood up for Ali not going to Vietnam? He's a sham.
...? I don't know? What did you want him to say?
Cossell and him were cool though and I don't know the exact situation your talking about, so I don't have an opinion on that
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you cant even compare a gretzgay to a jordan ???
about a billion people play basketball and probably only 50,000 people whove ever skated on ice in there lives=alot less competition to be the master
jordan was ripped and master of leans and 6feet6 just like johnny
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...? I don't know? What did you want him to say?
Cossell and him were cool though and I don't know the exact situation your talking about, so I don't have an opinion on that
Cossell made a comment on monday night football, something along the lines of look at that little monkey run in describing a kick return where the player was darting and cutting. Totally innocent, but the guy was black and Howard was trashed for it. And Ali had major cred at the time and could have stepped up for his "friend" like Howard did (and received death threats) but didn't. Great boxer though.
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Jim Thorpe
Jim Brown makes a better choice also
Jordan may have been th best BASKETBALL player
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Jim Thorpe
Jim Brown makes a better choice also
Jordan may have been th best BASKETBALL player
Nope, better athlete too.
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Bo Jackson ;D
(http://www.posters57.com/images/categories/Bo-Jackson-The-Ball.jpg)
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Jim Thorpe
Jim Brown makes a better choice also
Jordan may have been th best BASKETBALL player
Thorpe, maybe.....Brown, no way.
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you cant even compare a gretzgay to a jordan ???
about a billion people play basketball and probably only 50,000 people whove ever skated on ice in there lives=alot less competition to be the master
jordan was ripped and master of leans and 6feet6 just like johnny
however if you made it half court basketball, jordan would get hammerd by bigger basketball players and jordan simply doesnt have the size to box out
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Nobody else comes close.
jesse owens
Jim thorpe
bruce jenner
all much better overall
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however if you made it half court basketball, jordan would get hammerd by bigger basketball players and jordan simply doesnt have the size to box out
Yes, Jordan was awful in the Bulls half court triangle offense.....watch some ball instead of sniffing paint thinner.
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jesse owens
Jim thorpe
bruce jenner
all much better overall
Owens- outran and jumped a bunch of stiff white guys
Thorpe- maybe
Jenner- did he even win one of the events the year he won the gold? Plus his current family are all whores.
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Yes, Jordan was awful in the Bulls half court triangle offense.....watch some ball instead of sniffing paint thinner.
boxing out refers more to defense and rebounding angry word slinger, he would get tossed around by bigger men
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Cossell made a comment on monday night football, something along the lines of look at that little monkey run in describing a kick return where the player was darting and cutting. Totally innocent, but the guy was black and Howard was trashed for it. And Ali had major cred at the time and could have stepped up for his "friend" like Howard did (and received death threats) but didn't. Great boxer though.
Jordan and Woods never step up for the black man or for sharpton or J Jackson, either
if they did so, or got political, they'd crush their marketability
They were / are always criticized for not doing so
but= smart business
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Owens- outran and jumped a bunch of stiff white guys
Thorpe- maybe
Jenner- did he even win one of the events the year he won the gold? Plus his current family are all whores.
how does that figure into the discussion at hand?
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Cossell made a comment on monday night football, something along the lines of look at that little monkey run in describing a kick return where the player was darting and cutting. Totally innocent, but the guy was black and Howard was trashed for it. And Ali had major cred at the time and could have stepped up for his "friend" like Howard did (and received death threats) but didn't. Great boxer though.
I see what your saying, but people say stuff all the time. I'm sure even Cossell heard a million things bought Ali but decided to just stay out of it. Threw all the bs though they still remained friends
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Thorpe, maybe.....Brown, no way.
How do you figure?
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How do you figure?
if the kids here watch some loop of Brown steamrolling people back during his 9 years in the NFL, they'd realize he'd likely be nonpareil in his NFL efforts, even today
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How do you figure?
About Brown? He was dominant in he era (very short period of time) because he ran over 215lb, slow, white linebackers. He would get destroyed in a game today. I thought we were saying the best athlete of all-time, not of their era.
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What about Ronnie Coleman?
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how does that figure into the discussion at hand?
i don't know, but it was fun to say... ;D
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What about Ronnie Coleman?
A mix of Coleman and Ali would be unstoppable. 8)
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you cant even compare a gretzgay to a jordan
about a billion people play basketball and probably only 50,000 people whove ever skated on ice in there lives=alot less competition to be the master
jordan was ripped and master of leans and 6feet6 just like johnny
You can't compare Jordan to Gretzky is more like it. 60 NHL records and he's been retired for 10 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Canada invented both Basketball and Hockey. Hockey is more of an International sport than it used to be.... The hand to eye coordination to do what a hockey player does is probably more complex than any other sport.
I bet you Gretzky could play basketball better than Jordan could play hockey. I bet you 10% of people on Getbig could even skate well let alone do what he or Lemieux could do.
Again, define athlete..... Jim Thorpe, Bo Jackson, Lionel Conacher (you may need to look it up) great athletes since they could do so many thing so well.
Jim Brown! One of the best footballers ever. He retired in his prime. He would have held so many more records has he not retired to pursue a movie career. The only running back to ever average over 5 yards a carry. He retired because "He was only competing against himself" !!
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About Brown? He was dominant in he era (very short period of time) because he ran over 215lb, slow, white linebackers. He would get destroyed in a game today. I thought we were saying the best athlete of all-time, not of their era.
Couldn't be more wrong...and he STILL has records that stand today. Saying he would get "destroyed" today is laughable:
This may help educate you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Brown
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Most popular sport in the world ,more people play soccer than all other sports combined
Hope this helps.
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Jordan missed a few prime years to "live the dream" with the white sox as well.
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Most popular sport in the world ,more people play soccer than all other sports combined
Hope this helps.
Sure, and this also leads to massive overhyping of certain players, ala Beckham.With 22 players on a field, its hard for one single player to have a huge impact.
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Maradona had a huge impact in every team he played for.
Please don't put Beckham and Maradona in the same sentence.Sure, and this also leads to massive overhyping of certain players, ala Beckham.With 22 players on a field, its hard for one single player to have a huge impact.
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Most popular sport in the world ,more people play soccer than all other sports combined
Hope this helps.
you can't be serious with the soccer bullshit
open your slant eyes
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Most popular sport in the world ,more people play soccer than all other sports combined
Hope this helps.
HELL NO! no love for this little midget toy dog Argentine. love football but they arent the best athletes. good ft skills and endurance. drop this b###h off in a slum and VC or AdosA take care of him Brasil. HELL NO WHEN IT COMES TO THIS DRUNK/DRUG ADDICT RAT.
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Kevin Levrone cuz he could ran track
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Couldn't be more wrong...and he STILL has records that stand today. Saying he would get "destroyed" today is laughable:
This may help educate you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Brown
Like I said, he was playing against LB's who were 20lbs lighter than he was, and we aren't even talking about the DB's....the caliber of competition he faced wasn't anywhere near what it is today. The athletes have evolved way too much. Just like in every sport. He has avg speed for a RB today, at best. Not the most elusive guy either as he just bulled over smaller, slower players. You honestly think he could do that today? Bob, nostalgia is a powerful thing and I'm sure you loved him growing up, but he would get pummeled if he played in todays NFL. Fact.
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Bo Jackson ;D
(http://www.posters57.com/images/categories/Bo-Jackson-The-Ball.jpg)
bingo. History's best athlete ever
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you can't be serious with the soccer bullshit
open your slant eyes
Soccer (the real football ;)) is a sport like any other. Get used to it.
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Surprisingly, all the candidates are from North America... ::)
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Like I said, he was playing against LB's who were 20lbs lighter than he was, and we aren't even talking about the DB's....the caliber of competition he faced wasn't anywhere near what it is today. The athletes have evolved way too much. Just like in every sport. He has avg speed for a RB today, at best. Not the most elusive guy either as he just bulled over smaller, slower players. You honestly think he could do that today? Bob, nostalgia is a powerful thing and I'm sure you loved him growing up, but he would get pummeled if he played in todays NFL. Fact.
It was all relative...the caliber was what it was, and he played then. Fact.
I dont know what he could do today...thats not the point
He was voted the best player in HISTORY...that should tell you something. He was also supposed to be a even better Lacrosse player...
Personally, I think im Thorpe was the best athlete (all around) without question...but to dismiss Jim Brown as if he was just another average player shows you're narrow
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Probably Gretsky because of the dominance.
Jordan made everyone around him play better so it's hard to argue against him.
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bingo. History's best athlete ever
Don't know if you're old enough to remember this, but they used to have this hilarious commercial "Bo you don't know didley" with Bo Jackson and Bo Didley.
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Weightlifter Vasily Alexeev set over 70 world records.
Weightlifters Pyrros Dimas and Naim Suleymanoglu won 3 olympic golds. None other has ever done it in weightlifting.
They could easily be considered as some of the best...just saying 'cause you Americans are so focused on your own continent. :P
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chick and the gratzghey fans got it wrong
wanna go with statistics ?
no problem
noone comes close to Jahangir Khan who won everything for 10 years straight ( never fucking lost ! )
(http://www.squashpics.com/pastplayers/jahangir-5.jpg)
this is squash BTW
he has a female counterpart in squash also who went undefeated for 15 years
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE GREATEST ATHLETE EVER AND YES THAT IS MJ23
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Nobody else comes close.
e may be the best according to the world, but I never cared much for him. Being a Laker fan, I never looked at just one guy ...not even today. Kobe may be up there with MJ but on the Lakers he's just another guy.
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No disrespect for Kobe's skills but he'll never be the team player Jordan was.
The ground barely touches the ball when he's playing. :)
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Bo Jackson ;D
(http://www.posters57.com/images/categories/Bo-Jackson-The-Ball.jpg)
Actually, before the Jordan videos showed, I really thought this thread was going to be about bo :-X
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Actually, before the Jordan videos showed, I really thought this thread was going to be about bo :-X
We're obviously in the minority, my friend.
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No disrespect for Kobe's skills but he'll never be the team player Jordan was.
The ground barely touches the ball when he's playing. :)
Shouldn't that say more about Kobe's balling skills then :o
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It was all relative...the caliber was what it was, and he played then. Fact.
I dont know what he could do today...thats not the point
He was voted the best player in HISTORY...that should tell you something. He was also supposed to be a even better Lacrosse player...
Personally, I think im Thorpe was the best athlete (all around) without question...but to dismiss Jim Brown as if he was just another average player shows you're narrow
I guess we disagree on the criteria of the argument. Greatest athlete of all time, IMO, is different than the greatest player which they largely based on pure stats. Brown was incredible for his day, but I think he would be a 1,200 yd rusher with 10-12 TD's in todays game. Nothing to laugh at, but certainly not greatest. I didn't know he played lacrosse.
And none of us have mentioned Wilt Chamberlin who was a dominant basketball, track and volleyball player in college and one of the greatest NBA players of all time. It's fun to argue, but there is no "cut n dry"
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Here's your winner, boys:
Frank Dux
From 1975 to 1980 Frank W. Dux fought 329 matches.
He retired undefeated as the World Heavy Weight
Full Contact Kumite Champion.
Mr. Dux still holds four world records:
Fastest Knockout - 3.2 seconds
Fastest Punch with a Knockout - .12 seconds
Fastest Kick with a Knockout - 72 mph
Most Consecutive Knockouts in a Single Tournament - 56
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I guess we disagree on the criteria of the argument. Greatest athlete of all time, IMO, is different than the greatest player which they largely based on pure stats. Brown was incredible for his day, but I think he would be a 1,200 yd rusher with 10-12 TD's in todays game. Nothing to laugh at, but certainly not greatest. I didn't know he played lacrosse.
And none of us have mentioned Wilt Chamberlin who was a dominant basketball, track and volleyball player in college and one of the greatest NBA players of all time. It's fun to argue, but there is no "cut n dry"
I pasted his Wiki page for you earlier.....it's a good read
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Here's your winner, boys:
Frank Dux
From 1975 to 1980 Frank W. Dux fought 329 matches.
He retired undefeated as the World Heavy Weight
Full Contact Kumite Champion.
Mr. Dux still holds four world records:
Fastest Knockout - 3.2 seconds
Fastest Punch with a Knockout - .12 seconds
Fastest Kick with a Knockout - 72 mph
Most Consecutive Knockouts in a Single Tournament - 56
Dux has been exposed as a fraud.
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Here's your winner, boys:
Frank Dux
From 1975 to 1980 Frank W. Dux fought 329 matches.
He retired undefeated as the World Heavy Weight
Full Contact Kumite Champion.
Mr. Dux still holds four world records:
Fastest Knockout - 3.2 seconds
Fastest Punch with a Knockout - .12 seconds
Fastest Kick with a Knockout - 72 mph
Most Consecutive Knockouts in a Single Tournament - 56
oh brother ::)
by the way : he's the guy BLOODSPORT actually portrays
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A buddy of mine played with The Great One and explained in exhausting detail why I was wrong about Michael Jordan being the greatest, LOL!
Can't remember everything he said (there was beer) but I was definitely wrong.
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the great Mickey Mantle. He was a star basketball and football player who got a full scholarship to Univ of OK for football. He was a superb natural athlete and could have been a pro footballer, no doubt. Hell, he was one of the greatest baseball players in history, and the sad thing is, he drank himself silly and tore his body to shit. If it wasn't for the injuries and early retirement, who knows what he could have accomplished. 8)
P.I.P. to the Mick
(http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/usa/images-2/mickey-mantle.jpg)
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Jim Thorpe
. College Football Hall of Fame - 1951
. Charter Enshrinee in the Pro Football Hall of Fame - 1963
. All-America - 1911, 1912
. Olympic Decathlon and Pentathlon Champion - 1912
. AP Most Outstanding Athlete of the First Half of the 20th Century - 1950
. "America's Greatest Football Player of the half-century" - 1950
. ABC's Wide World of Sports Athlete of the Century - 2001
. Track and Field Hall of Fame
. In 1950, the nation's press selected Jim Thorpe as the most outstanding athlete of the first half of the 20th Century
. From 1996-2001, he was continuously awarded ABC's Wide World of Sports Athlete of the Century award
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wake up chick
it very much depends on the quality of your opposition and the depth of the field
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We're obviously in the minority, my friend.
;)
Well, if not the best, definitely a contender
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_42w5-R0zz2g/SZ1cqW6Zc9I/AAAAAAAAFY0/soWl-U9Si6g/s400/hip+2+da+game+like+bo+jackson.jpg)
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1989/0612_large.jpg)
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(http://www.poster.net/ali-muhammad/ali-muhammad-photo-muhammad-ali-6206920.jpg)
The Greatest
Not even the greatest boxer, let alone athlete.
(http://www.johnbarber.com/The%2080%27s%20Project/robinson1.jpg)
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Jeez most of you guys are posting athletes that are great in their sport. But most of them outside their sport are barely average. Jim Thorpe was about as good as anyone in any sport he played in. Babe Didrickson was unreal too. Rafer Johnson was great. Bo Jackson was great in two sports. Deion Sanders was awesome too. I would choose someone who was exceptional in team sports like baseball, football, basketball but also excelled in individual sports like golf, tennis, bowling, sprinting, long distance running, swimming. Nothing like watching a great athlete in baseball look like a dork swinging a golf club or tennis racquet. Some people are ust more adapt to certain sports.
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wake up chick
it very much depends on the quality of your opposition and the depth of the field
Yeah....maybe he just got lucky! ::)
He competed against the best of that time.....period.
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Yeah....maybe he just got lucky! ::)
He competed against the best of that time.....period.
I refuse to believe your this limited
the depth and quality of that time versus now ?????????????????????????????????????????????
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you cant even compare a gretzgay to a jordan ???
about a billion people play basketball and probably only 50,000 people whove ever skated on ice in there lives=alot less competition to be the master
jordan was ripped and master of leans and 6feet6 just like johnny
You know the world is bigger than the USA right?
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You know the world is bigger than the USA right?
I wonder how many in this thread actually realise this...
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It was all relative...the caliber was what it was, and he played then. Fact.
I dont know what he could do today...thats not the point
He was voted the best player in HISTORY...that should tell you something. He was also supposed to be a even better Lacrosse player...
Personally, I think im Thorpe was the best athlete (all around) without question...but to dismiss Jim Brown as if he was just another average player shows you're narrow
Have to agree with Chick here. The same argument come up all the time on the MMA boards. " Royce, Severn ect would be destroyed by todays competition". Its not fair to compare athletes from different eras.
Thats like saying Alexander the great and Erwin Rommel were not good generals because they would get crushed by modern armies.
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I refuse to believe your this limited
the depth and quality of that time versus now ?????????????????????????????????????????????
NO ONE CARES ABOUT THEN VS NOW...IT'S AN ARGUMENT FOR MORONS
The athlete in question played against the BEST depth and quality of HIS time.
Simpleton
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Alexander Karelin end of the thread
Olympic Games
Gold 1988 Seoul Super heavyweight
Gold 1992 Barcelona Super heavyweight
Gold 1996 Atlanta Super heavyweight
Silver 2000 Sydney 97 - 130 kg
World Championships
Gold Martigny 1989 Up to 130 kg
Gold Ostia 1990 Up to 130 kg
Gold Varna 1991 Up to 130 kg
Gold Stockholm 1993 Up to 130 kg
Gold Tampere 1994 Up to 130 kg
Gold Prague 1995 Up to 130 kg
Gold Wroclaw 1997 Up to 130 kg
Gold Gävle 1998 Up to 130 kg
Gold Athens 1999 Up to 130 kg
European Championships
Gold Kolbotyn 1988 Up to 130 kg
Gold Oulu 1989 Up to 130 kg
Gold Poznań 1990 Up to 130 kg
Gold Aschaffenburg 1991 Up to 130 kg
Gold Copenhagen 1992 Up to 130 kg
Gold Istanbul 1993 Up to 130 kg
Gold Athens 1994 Up to 130 kg
Gold Besançon 1995 Up to 130 kg
Gold Budapest 1996 Up to 130 kg
Gold Minsk 1998 Up to 130 kg
Gold Sofia 1999 Up to 130 kg
Gold Moscow 2000 Up to 130 kg
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NO ONE CARES ABOUT THEN VS NOW...IT'S AN ARGUMENT FOR MORONS
The athlete in question played against the BEST depth and quality of HIS time.
Simpleton
Some people are just dense Bob. I guess Alexander the great was not a very good general because he would be crushed by modern armies. ::)
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No disrespect for Kobe's skills but he'll never be the team player Jordan was.
The ground barely touches the ball when he's playing. :)
Jordan team player????? What???? Wherew the shoes Air Bulls or Air Jordans?
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Alexander Karelin end of the thread
Olympic Games
Gold 1988 Seoul Super heavyweight
Gold 1992 Barcelona Super heavyweight
Gold 1996 Atlanta Super heavyweight
Silver 2000 Sydney 97 - 130 kg
World Championships
Gold Martigny 1989 Up to 130 kg
Gold Ostia 1990 Up to 130 kg
Gold Varna 1991 Up to 130 kg
Gold Stockholm 1993 Up to 130 kg
Gold Tampere 1994 Up to 130 kg
Gold Prague 1995 Up to 130 kg
Gold Wroclaw 1997 Up to 130 kg
Gold Gävle 1998 Up to 130 kg
Gold Athens 1999 Up to 130 kg
European Championships
Gold Kolbotyn 1988 Up to 130 kg
Gold Oulu 1989 Up to 130 kg
Gold Poznań 1990 Up to 130 kg
Gold Aschaffenburg 1991 Up to 130 kg
Gold Copenhagen 1992 Up to 130 kg
Gold Istanbul 1993 Up to 130 kg
Gold Athens 1994 Up to 130 kg
Gold Besançon 1995 Up to 130 kg
Gold Budapest 1996 Up to 130 kg
Gold Minsk 1998 Up to 130 kg
Gold Sofia 1999 Up to 130 kg
Gold Moscow 2000 Up to 130 kg
Awesome wrestler..what other sports did he dominate in?
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Roy Jones Junior
Only guy in this century to jump from the middleweight division to heavyweight and win a world title. He did it with ease aswell (even though John Ruiz isnt a world beater)
This guy's speed is second to none and hes also a good basketball player
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Roy Jones Junior
Only guy in this century to jump from the middleweight division to heavyweight and win a world title. He did it with ease aswell (even though John Ruiz isnt a world beater)
This guy's speed is second to none and hes also a good basketball player
See above post...
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Karelin is also a good pick. He could literally pick up a 300 lbs man against there will and powerbomb them. Not just any 300 lbs shlub, but other highly skilled wrestlers.
Could have beaten Royce and Rickson Gracie at the same time.
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Roy Jones Junior
Only guy in this century to jump from the middleweight division to heavyweight and win a world title. He did it with ease aswell (even though John Ruiz isnt a world beater)
This guy's speed is second to none and hes also a good basketball player
Then he fought some real opposition instead of garbagemen and policeman and got his ass handed to him multiple times.
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NO ONE CARES ABOUT THEN VS NOW...IT'S AN ARGUMENT FOR MORONS
The athlete in question played against the BEST depth and quality of HIS time.
Simpleton
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stick to roided huffers and puffers honestly
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Awesome wrestler..what other sports did he dominate in?
Thread back open
Flairs won (and lost) more titles than that!!!!! ;)
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Roy Jones Junior
Only guy in this century to jump from the middleweight division to heavyweight and win a world title. He did it with ease aswell (even though John Ruiz isnt a world beater)
This guy's speed is second to none and hes also a good basketball player
Roy Jones Jr. is an excellent all round athlete. Plays tennis, golf, semi pro basketball player (owns a team too), pretty good boxer. Not bad
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Roy Jones Jr. is an excellent all round athlete. Plays tennis, golf, semi pro basketball player (owns a team too), pretty good boxer. Not bad
He was great till he got hit for the first time. I knew it was comming sooner or later. Great physique also...for a guy who never lifted weights.
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I thought this post was going to be about Heath getting injured during his guest posing :D
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I thought this post was going to be about Heath getting injured during his guest posing :D
Your kidding right? Did he do what Art Artwood did when he stood his 300 pound ass on a chair then fell in ?
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You know the world is bigger than the USA right?
there is the USA
then their is the world
two different things, paesan
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Roy Jones Juniorwatch his last three fights for the definition of not knowing when to quit...royal ass beatings
Only guy in this century to jump from the middleweight division to heavyweight and win a world title. He did it with ease aswell (even though John Ruiz isnt a world beater)
This guy's speed is second to none and hes also a good basketball player
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there is the USA
then their is the world
two different things, paesan
Yah I guess your right.
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Decathletes
Prob sone NFL guys
Michael Johnson
Carl Lewis
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Let's go with Jim Thorpe and Lionel Conacher:
Lionel Conacher:
It would be hard to find a sport that Conacher didn't excel at, if he tried. He could run the 100-yard dash in 10.0 seconds when the world record was 9.8. He was the Canadian heavyweight boxing champion and the wrestling champion of Ontario. He played professional baseball in the International League, one step below the majors. He scored 15 points in the 1921 Grey Cup championship, when his Toronto Argonauts beat the Edmonton Eskimos 23-0 for the Canadian football championship.
But his greatest fame was as a hockey player. He may not have been as skilled as his brother Charlie, but he was certainly rougher and tougher. In 1936, he and Charlie had a fight that started on the ice and moved up a ramp into the lobby of the rink, when Charlie finally gave up.
Lionel, known as "Big Train," a kind of reverse pun on his name, entered the NHL with the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1925. He was traded to the New York Americans during the 1926/27 season, then went to the Montreal Maroons. After three seasons with them, he played for the Chicago Black Hawks for one season and returned to the Maroons for three more, retiring in 1937.
He scored 80 goals and had 105 assists, with 882 penalty minutes in 500 regular season games, and he added 2 goals, 2 assists and 34 penalty minutes in 35 playoff games.
[edit] Baseball
In 1920, Lionel hit the game-winning home run to give his team the Toronto semipro baseball crown, then promptly took a taxi across the city and scored four goals for his lacrosse team, which was losing 3-0 when he arrived. In 1926, he played professional baseball as an outfielder for the Toronto Maple Leafs of the International League. His team won the pennant and the Triple A championship.[21]
[edit] Boxing
In 1920 Lionel won the Canadian amateur light heavyweight boxing title. In 1921 Lionel boxed a four-round exhibition with Jack Dempsey. [22]
[edit] Lacrosse
Lionel also played lacrosse for the Toronto Maitlands, and helped guide that team to the Ontario Senior Lacrosse championship in 1922.[23] In 1931, Conacher became professional in a third sport when he played for the Montreal Maroons in the International Indoor Professional Lacrosse League. [24] In 1965, he was inducted into the Canadian Lacrosse Hall of Fame.
[edit] Wrestling
In 1916 Conacher won the amateur lightweight wrestling championship of Ontario in the 125 pound weight class at age 16 year old. After training with Ali Hassan, he made his pro debut in May 1932 for Toronto promoter Ivan Mickailoff. Conacher went 27-0 as a pro wrestler in Canada and the United States in 1933 and never lost a match in his career. [25]
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Wayne Gretzky is the greatest athlete ever. Has more records by than Jordan, and holds records by a bigger margin than Jordan.
MJ is a close second thoough.
I would have to say nobody dominated a sport more than sir donald bradman. avg 99.97runs per match second closest ever is 55 runs per match. and cricket is bigger than basketball
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Cricket isnt even a real sport, its played by a bunch of third world countries.
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Cricket isnt even a real sport, its played by a bunch of third world countries.
::) Go back to rehab.
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Oscar and Mayweather (yet another great athlete) did the same at the lighter weight classes...add Manny and Sugar Shane. Roy was great, he just had no one to fight for about 5 yrs in a row.
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Then he fought some real opposition instead of garbagemen and policeman and got his ass handed to him multiple times.
oh right because Tarver is far superiour to Bernard Hopkins and James toney? ::)
A prime Roy Jones was one of the best P4P boxers of all time period
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oh right because Tarver is far superiour to Bernard Hopkins and James toney? ::)
A prime Roy Jones was one of the best P4P boxers of all time period
Be glad our granparents aren't on here...or we'd hear about Marciono, Ali, Joe Louis and their version of Sugar Ray!!!!
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::) Go back to rehab.
If I feel the cravings again I will, but as of right now I have been sober since nov 4th 2008. ;D
still cheating and entering natural bodybuilding shows when you were exposed as a 15 year juicer?
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I guess for a gook like yourself 135 lbs is big though.
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meh
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when you were exposed as a 15 year juicer?
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??? ???
You forget I was around when after the first mr getbig, Adonis exposed you as a fraud and proved you had been posting on steroid websites for years?
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Kevin Levrone cuz he could ran track
Didn't Levrone win the 100m sprint at the 2008 beijing Olympics?????........hahahahhaha
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You forget I was around when after the first mr getbig, Adonis exposed you as a fraud and proved you had been posting on steroid websites for years?
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The Mick was great, but guys like Foxx, Lou G, and the Splendid Splinter were better ballers. All of em.
I don't know about J.F., but I'll definitely give ya Lou and Ted. T.W. is one of my fav ball players ever, and "the best damn hitter who ever lived"
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You evolved from dirt, and no matter how hard you train and juice you still weigh 135 lbs. You must be proud, now get back to your cricket game.
Typical gook, no appreciation for hockey.
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Kareem Abdul Jabbar was once asked who was the best player he ever seen...After a long pause, he state that EARL "THE GOAT" MANIGAULT was the best player to ever play the game...The was barely over 6 feet tall but could jump up and grab quarters off the top of backboards...He schooled any pro that ever dared play around with him...Yet he never left the playground...
Earl "The Goat(greatest of all time)" Manigault...
Google his name...He was the best pure athlete to ever touch a basketball...Dr. Jay himself didn't want any part of "the goat" and was in owe of him...
http://www.hoopsusa.com/frm_story.cfm?a=407
The Goat had a 52inch vertical...In fucking sane
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Both Foxx and Mick loved the bottle though, didn't they?
Now that you mention it, I think Foxx did have some alkie problems. Have you ever seen the movie "61*" about the chase in '61 for Ruth's single season HR record? From what I've read about the "backstage" antics with Mickey's and Whitey Ford's drinking-stripper binges, that movie was pretty accurate. ;D
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Didn't Levrone win the 100m sprint at the 2008 beijing Olympics?????........hahahahhaha
No but he unofficially lost to a guy on more juice than him though. Tim Montgomery.
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Yeah -- seen the flick a few times. I heard it was pretty accurate too. There weren't any bigger stars than Mantle in those days.
If you can remember watching "A League of their own", with Tom Hanks, you should know that Tom's character is based on Jimmie Foxx.
What a time that would have been to be a ball player. You were pretty much god on earth in those days if you were Mantle or Dimaggio.
Ya know, I never saw the hype behind Dimaggio. Definitely a first-class ballplayer, and kind of a baseball senior statesman in his day, even though he was a recluse, BUT why all the hype about his 56-game hitting streak as being one of the greatest feats in baseball history? Sure, it takes consistency to do that, but it takes even more consistency to bat .406 over the course of a whole season. Thoughts?
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oh right because Tarver is far superiour to Bernard Hopkins and James toney? ::)
A prime Roy Jones was one of the best P4P boxers of all time period
Hopkins wasnt half the boxer he is now back then.Toney was always overrated.Jones could look good against tomato cans, ill give him that.
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But no, hitting .406 is way harder than 56 straight games. Someone today will come along and break 56 games. No one today will ever hit .400 again. And to be one of the most formidable power hitters of all time, and hit .400 -- that make Teddy Ballgame the best hitter ever in my book. Maybe not my favorite, but if I had to pick only one hitter to play on my team, it'd Ted Williams every single time.
Breaking .400 -- It's as untouchable as Hack Wilson's 190+ RBI season.
Totally agreed. I'm glad there's a fellow baseball buff here. What impresses me the most about Williams is that he hit that .406 in, what, his third season as a major leaguer, and I believe at the age of 23? Unreal. You're right, no one will ever touch that. Tony Gwynn got near it back in the 80s, and Brett did, too. But with pitching becoming more and more scientific nowadays, with these guys studying tapes of hitters at the plate, and lots of other factors...if anyone can break .400 again, he will be a god among men, more so than Williams was.
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Gwynn and Brett were close, but could either of them put up the power numbers Williams did? Nope.
But I agree -- if you hit .400 today, that's something compared to .400 in the 40's. Three pitchers per game. All your weaknesses as a hitter on video and studied by every pitcher in the opposing pen.
But still, the only man playing today who I would have hit .400 and (if he stayed consistent) mention in the same breath as Williams would have to be Pujols. And I'm stretching. He's the closest thing to Teddy Ballgame as we'll get today. This year, he might very well hit more homeruns than strikeout. That hasn't been done in a long, long time. But even still, I don't think Pujols has a .400 season in him. No one in today's current crop does.
Even if a guy like Ichiro did it, it would still be by a guy who more closely resembles the slap hitting style of Cobb, and not the hammering style of Williams. Although Ichiro couldn't lace up Cobb's cleats on his best day.
I tell ya, Pujols is the most underrated player today, probably because he's not playing for a big market team, at least not big market like the Yankees. A-Rod (oh brother) is a hack compared to Pujols. An all around superb player, a great natural hitter for average, a power hitter, and unlike A-Rod, not a complete asshole. I've bought triplicates of his rookie cards. :D
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(http://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/flojo.jpg)
yummy.
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That was a great fuckin' vid.
Tough to name the greatest ever, but two other names that should be kicked around -- Lance Armstrong and Walter Payton.
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If I feel the cravings again I will, but as of right now I have been sober since nov 4th 2008. ;D
still cheating and entering natural bodybuilding shows when you were exposed as a 15 year juicer?
Wow that's fucked up....I'm clean since Nov 9th 2008
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there is a difference from being athletic and being a good athlete.
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in other news, jordan 7's re-released next month. never had those, will buy when they're out.
Let me know if you hear about future re-releases of the Jordan 4 - the best shoe ever made. I bought 4 pairs when the re-released 'em the first time in 1999, but I'm down to one last boxed pair. Need to restock.
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Ronnieeeeee Coooooooleman.... Yip yip!
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this guy. Not the best basketball player, or hockey player, or football player, etc. The best athlete of all-time.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Misc/52.jpg)
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this guy. Not the best basketball player, or hockey player, or football player, etc. The best athlete of all-time.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Misc/52.jpg)
(http://www.ict.mic.ul.ie/websites/2002/Eilis_Faherty/Lewisrun.jpg)
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(http://www.ict.mic.ul.ie/websites/2002/Eilis_Faherty/Lewisrun.jpg)
Carl Lewis is the fastest homosexual who ever lived. Is that what this thread is about?
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That was a great fuckin' vid.
Tough to name the greatest ever, but two other names that should be kicked around -- Lance Armstrong and Walter Payton.
Who is this dude?
On Jordan, I believe Jordan is probably the only individaul to totally dominate the team collective minds and the player he was against. He wanted to not just beat the team and the player, but he would not sacrifice beating the player and losing the game. In those terms he in fact owned the NBA collectively. If it were not for him and Nike's strategic packaging and marketing of him, the NBA would not be as popular as it is and Nike would not have the billions of dollars in revenue that it generates to day.
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Nobody else comes close.
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youre right,, i was about to say there are 2 but youre right,, michael jordan was the best athlete the world has ever seen followed closely by diego armando maradona
both of them made you watch games only because trhey played and not for any other reason ,,meaning you would stop anything you do when they got on the field and do nothing but watch ,, they were the best ever
the reason i give it to michael jordan is simply because he was class act from beggining to end and simply put,, the nba became nothing since he left as of today there is still football more or less theree was vanbasten and zidan and there is messy and there is still some level of football ,,when it comes to baskerball ...the game died since michael jordan left ,,none of the player shakil kobe briant all those wanna bes cant play nothing they are all generation nothingness playing against other who belong in this generation
thats why michael jordan is the best athlete to ever born on planet earth
mj15 approved
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carl louis is third place behind maradona which is behind jordan
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carl louis is third place behind maradona which is behind jordan
your advice is valuable on this board...but you aint getting away with that height gene deficient, crusty coke nose, flying s##t soccer ball kicking, argentine...as one of the great athletes
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iWrf4zJREoc/SHOG2PNYhAI/AAAAAAAAAKk/AxXVB_a7tsY/s400/maradona.jpg)
blockhead's cousin. who would have thought?
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the only reason he was "good" was because he could jump high, had an unstoppable jumpshot, could score a lot, and didn't buckle under pressure.
other than that, he's no better than your typical high school player.
in other news, jordan 7's re-released next month. never had those, will buy when they're out.
I always have liked the Jordan 5's, Jordan 6's, and Jordan 7's myself...Which are the best
http://www.kicksonfire.com/air-jordans/ (http://www.kicksonfire.com/air-jordans/)
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Carl Lewis is the fastest homosexual who ever lived. Is that what this thread is about?
carl lews was drafted by teh bulls in the same year as Jordan but did only a few trainings sessions because he was not good enough for the nba
at the same time jordan hat nearly the same vertical as lewis plus the little things you can t train as 10 inch hands
Jordan was the greatest especially on a commercial view
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Jim Thorpe
Jim Brown makes a better choice also
Jordan may have been th best BASKETBALL player
I agree Jordan may have been the best Ball player but as far as being the greatest athlete....
Everyone forgets about this guy..(http://www.nightsafari.com.sg/whatsnew/images/CarlLewis3.jpg) Carl Lewis = 9 Olympic Gold Medals.
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Brock Lesnar. ;D
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Where does the great Sevastase fit into this discussion? 8)
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Where does the great Sevastase fit into this discussion? 8)
just below the last guy
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just below the last guy
There were about 15 different guys mentioned, so sev is 16th? i think that might be a little high, but I'll accept your expertise.... ;D
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Cricket isnt even a real sport, its played by a bunch of third world countries.
and you're a gay
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I agree Jordan may have been the best Ball player but as far as being the greatest athlete....
Everyone forgets about this guy..(http://www.nightsafari.com.sg/whatsnew/images/CarlLewis3.jpg) Carl Lewis = 9 Olympic Gold Medals.
well, who is that? like we are automatically supposed to know....
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To be honest its impossible to say who the greatest athlete ever was...certainly I'd say the best known was probably michael jordan, since countries that didn't even play Basketball all knew him. It's a bit of a silly question in all fairness...
In terms of the dude that most inspired me, its gotta be Michael Johnson...hell the guy coulda shot up an orphanage and I still would think he was god.
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carl lews was drafted by teh bulls in the same year as Jordan but did only a few trainings sessions because he was not good enough for the nba
at the same time jordan hat nearly the same vertical as lewis plus the little things you can t train as 10 inch hands
Jordan was the greatest especially on a commercial view
It was an 'honorary' draft based on his popularity and success at the time....it wasn't for real bro.
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To be honest its impossible to say who the greatest athlete ever was...certainly I'd say the best known was probably michael jordan, since countries that didn't even play Basketball all knew him. It's a bit of a silly question in all fairness...
In terms of the dude that most inspired me, its gotta be Michael Johnson...hell the guy coulda shot up an orphanage and I still would think he was god.
Ali to this day still most recognized face in the world
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they are black.
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Wow. I guess everyone in the last 3 pages of this thread really got off topic. Baseball players don't count since Baseball is not even a sport. It's a pastime. lol. Most of them are fatasses anyways.
carl louis is third place behind maradona which is behind jordan <---- Retarded post alert.
Spell the athlete's name correctly at least. lol
Maradonna is a fat drug addict, Lewis was the most successful Track and Field Athlete ever. Jordan was a great Basketball player. This doesn't make him the best Athlete ever.
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Best all around athlete...anyone who win's the Olympic, World Games, NCCA, etc Decathlon event. Other than that, it's the best performer in a chosen sport or more than one sport. Which can lead to dozens of examples.Three sports.....Jim Brown or Bo Jackson as example. One sport, Dr J ahead of Jordon. Never be one answer as to who was/is the greatest athlete ever.
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I always have liked the Jordan 5's, Jordan 6's, and Jordan 7's myself...Which are the best
http://www.kicksonfire.com/air-jordans/ (http://www.kicksonfire.com/air-jordans/)
Agreed, 5,6,7 and 9 are the best by far.
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AHAHA! HUSH NOW YOU FOOLS! I am both astonished and upset that not one of you peasants have mentioned the real greatest athlete of all time.
(http://www.fogcityjournal.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/arnold_schwarzenegger_fat.jpg)
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#1 JIM THORPE
but where would you rank this guy?
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This thread sucks, and it's entirely predictable. >:(
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#1 JIM THORPE
but where would you rank this guy?
My team had 2 running backs surpass Jim Brown!!!!! Dorsett and Emmitt
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Jordan missed a few prime years to "live the dream" with the white sox as well.
that's my point jordan tried and failed to play his first love basrball. remember the hardest thing in sports to hit a round ball with a round bat squarely, esp when said ball is thrown 60 to 107 miles per hour from varying angles and speeds and different english on said ball. jim thorpe was a track athlete, played mlb baseball, also pro football he excelled at everything. ruth the fat bastard excelled at pitching and hitting all while under the influence of booze and hotdogs by the dozens. all ruth did was hit more homeruns in some years than the combined totals of whole teams, amazing isn't it.
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Wow. I guess everyone in the last 3 pages of this thread really got off topic. Baseball players don't count since Baseball is not even a sport. It's a pastime. lol. Most of them are fatasses anyways.
carl louis is third place behind maradona which is behind jordan <---- Retarded post alert.
Spell the athlete's name correctly at least. lol
Maradonna is a fat drug addict, Lewis was the most successful Track and Field Athlete ever. Jordan was a great Basketball player. This doesn't make him the best Athlete ever.
esp guys like sabathia and j chamberlain
fat f---s all