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Title: The Honest Truth About Healthcare In America.....
Post by: Mons Venus on July 20, 2009, 03:42:51 PM
Healthcare in this country is currently rationed by insurance companies. They regularly TELL YOU what they will cover and what they won't cover based on a profit motive. The GOP knows this. They don't want YOU to understand that your healthcare is not only rationed but regularly DENIED (coverage, that is) because you have non-medical insurance adjusters standing between you and your doctor right this second. The infamous "pre-existing condition" is utilized to fuckk over sick patients.... for profit.

Shut up, GOP. We know what's going on.  ;)
Title: Re: The Honest Truth About Healthcare In America.....
Post by: tonymctones on July 20, 2009, 03:48:50 PM
Healthcare in this country is currently rationed by insurance companies. They regularly TELL YOU what they will cover and what they won't cover based on a profit motive. The GOP knows this. They don't want YOU to understand that your healthcare is not only rationed but regularly DENIED (coverage, that is) because you have non-medical insurance adjusters standing between you and your doctor right this second. The infamous "pre-existing condition" is utilized to fuckk over sick patients.... for profit.

Shut up, GOP. We know what's going on.  ;)
what makes you think if the govt controlled it they wouldnt say you are allowed to have this procedure but not this procedure etc...?
Title: Re: The Honest Truth About Healthcare In America.....
Post by: Mons Venus on July 20, 2009, 03:57:55 PM
what makes you think if the govt controlled it they wouldnt say you are allowed to have this procedure but not this procedure etc...?

Hello? Medicare (Gov. Healthcare) covers ALL conditions pre-existing or not!

Ask HH6 if his FREE Gov. Healthcare covers pre-existing conditions.  ;)
Title: Re: The Honest Truth About Healthcare In America.....
Post by: tonymctones on July 20, 2009, 04:27:01 PM
Hello? Medicare (Gov. Healthcare) covers ALL conditions pre-existing or not!

Ask HH6 if his FREE Gov. Healthcare covers pre-existing conditions.  ;)
my question didnt pertain to pre-existing conditions, try again...
Title: Re: The Honest Truth About Healthcare In America.....
Post by: The True Adonis on July 20, 2009, 04:44:19 PM
my question didnt pertain to pre-existing conditions, try again...
Take your question and mold it to Japan and Norway or Sweden and come back to me with your results.
Title: Re: The Honest Truth About Healthcare In America.....
Post by: headhuntersix on July 20, 2009, 05:25:10 PM
my question didnt pertain to pre-existing conditions, try again...
Title: Re: The Honest Truth About Healthcare In America.....
Post by: MM2K on July 20, 2009, 06:22:15 PM
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Hello? Medicare (Gov. Healthcare) covers ALL conditions pre-existing or not

Medicaire pulls the plug too early on old people. That will be the norm if government care happens for the entire population. Healthcare has to be rationed in some way just like all other resources. It is going to get rationed one way or the other. Why do you trust a government beaurocrat to do that more than an insurnace executive? Atleast the insurance executive has SOME incentive to please you. They cant afford to deny a lot of claims or else they WONT make a profit. But a government beaurocrat can take everything you have by putting a gun to your head. Why do you trust a faceless bearocrat who doesnt even know you?
Title: Re: The Honest Truth About Healthcare In America.....
Post by: tonymctones on July 20, 2009, 09:19:28 PM
Take your question and mold it to Japan and Norway or Sweden and come back to me with your results.
WOW NO YOUTUBE CLIP!!!!!!!!! somebody make a note of this...there are also examples of how this has failed as well, you want to discount those?
Title: Re: The Honest Truth About Healthcare In America.....
Post by: shootfighter1 on July 21, 2009, 06:21:32 AM
I agree with a mandate that forces insurance companies to insure everyone who applies.  No one should be denied based on pre-existing conditions.  We can do that without nationalized health insurance.  Gov can set quite a few mandates on insurance companies without taking over. 

Some of the dems are pushing this as all or nothing (nationalized health care or keep the status quo).  There are tons of interventions that can happen to improve the current system.  Those should be pursued first.  The CBO announced the nationalized plan would likely increase costs.  Most experts believe there will be an increase in rationing.  These should have put the breaks on the nationalized plan.
Title: Re: The Honest Truth About Healthcare In America.....
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 21, 2009, 07:01:14 AM
Healthcare in this country is currently rationed by insurance companies. They regularly TELL YOU what they will cover and what they won't cover based on a profit motive. The GOP knows this. They don't want YOU to understand that your healthcare is not only rationed but regularly DENIED (coverage, that is) because you have non-medical insurance adjusters standing between you and your doctor right this second. The infamous "pre-existing condition" is utilized to fuckk over sick patients.... for profit.

Shut up, GOP. We know what's going on.  ;)

Hey mons moron - what your stupid ass does not understand is that while one insurance company many deny a patient, the patient can always go to another company and get care, albeight at a higher price. 

However, when the govt is the only game in town and says "NO", the patient is left with no other options.   

Do you not understand that? 
Title: Re: The Honest Truth About Healthcare In America.....
Post by: shootfighter1 on July 21, 2009, 07:15:25 AM
Good point.
Title: Re: The Honest Truth About Healthcare In America.....
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 21, 2009, 07:21:49 AM
Good point.

this is what kills me about liberals who want the govt to control everything.  They think the govt is some savior with noble motives. 

However, when the govt crowds out the competition, the consumer is totally screwed if the govt screws up. 

This is with anything.   
Title: Re: The Honest Truth About Healthcare In America.....
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on July 21, 2009, 07:26:34 AM
this is what kills me about liberals who want the govt to control everything.  They think the govt is some savior with noble motives. 

However, when the govt crowds out the competition, the consumer is totally screwed if the govt screws up. 

This is with anything.   
fella,,have you even wondered the other way around?,,this is what happened during the boom people dont know how to manage money and look where it ended up and eveyrone blames bushes for it people from gramnda,,daddy,,16 year old child was a real estate agent making 100k or more all of a sudden and bought everything in sight then they kept reinfancing their homes that they bought over and over till their eyes were so bled they couldnt see what hapepend then they blamed bush for it,,,those are the same fellas who need govern. control over their lifes there is gov control then there is NO government control which we seen the last 7 years
Title: Re: The Honest Truth About Healthcare In America.....
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 21, 2009, 07:47:20 AM
fella,,have you even wondered the other way around?,,this is what happened during the boom people dont know how to manage money and look where it ended up and eveyrone blames bushes for it people from gramnda,,daddy,,16 year old child was a real estate agent making 100k or more all of a sudden and bought everything in sight then they kept reinfancing their homes that they bought over and over till their eyes were so bled they couldnt see what hapepend then they blamed bush for it,,,those are the same fellas who need govern. control over their lifes there is gov control then there is NO government control which we seen the last 7 years

We had and have to omuch govt control.  The congressional report confirmed that Fannie and Freddy were responsible for the crash. 

the Federal Reserve created the housing bubble with the monetary policy.  Do some research.