Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Pollux on July 21, 2009, 11:33:45 AM

Title: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 21, 2009, 11:33:45 AM
 8)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/index-6.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCA6AQR0N.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAGTJQLK.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAMLGVA9.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAN34991.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCANDFJZB.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/m-1.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCADB750S-1.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCABLWASK.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/xcv.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/1965Arnold.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCA3218BT.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/Anold.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_1128.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/ar353.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/ar202.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/arni.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/arnuich.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAZ79E7U.jpg)

Oh. And FUCK YOU arnoldplatz and jakelogan of Ironage and Raw-Iron!
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 21, 2009, 11:35:07 AM
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/index-6.jpg)

"Waiter, I'll have 6 betas, and one alpha."

Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on July 21, 2009, 11:47:52 AM
Arnold did say olympic weightlifting is dangerous and unnatural...that must deduct some man points from him.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 21, 2009, 12:37:10 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 21, 2009, 12:43:55 PM
great pics pollux
please tell us what music the polka band in back of arnold was playing....
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: spinnis on July 21, 2009, 12:46:57 PM
I would have NEVER guessed his chest could improve sooo much
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: rccs on July 21, 2009, 12:52:20 PM
Arnie developed a lot!
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: WEIBK on July 21, 2009, 01:11:28 PM

GREAT, RARE PICTURES FOR GREAT MAN.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: affeman on July 21, 2009, 01:14:53 PM
8)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/index-6.jpg)

Would've never thought that I'd ever see a line-up where Arnold has the best quads ;D
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: funk51 on July 21, 2009, 01:35:02 PM
8)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/index-6.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCA6AQR0N.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAGTJQLK.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAMLGVA9.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAN34991.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCANDFJZB.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/m-1.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCADB750S-1.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCABLWASK.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/xcv.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/1965Arnold.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCA3218BT.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/Anold.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_1128.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/ar353.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/ar202.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/arni.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/arnuich.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAZ79E7U.jpg)

Oh. And FUCK YOU arnoldplatz and jakelogan of Ironage and Raw-Iron!
                                                                                            in those days he was known as the acorn....
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: timfogarty on July 21, 2009, 01:40:03 PM
wish I could find that pic from the mid 70s of him jogging in the Vinces Gym tank top.    He had lost all his size hoping to get into the movies
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 21, 2009, 01:41:10 PM
Would've never thought that I'd ever see a line-up where Arnold has the best quads ;D

marnul thinks he can take A there
wonder if the guys in that group talk forlornly in bars over drin ks how they trained with A
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: TrueGrit on July 21, 2009, 01:52:31 PM
 Pollux...you married ?

If not hit me up on msn and we can compare Arnie stills. My handle is :

arnoldfetishistpecbounce r69
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Mars on July 21, 2009, 02:00:51 PM
was he ON from the start?
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 21, 2009, 02:03:10 PM
was he ON from the start?

i would say yes
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: affeman on July 21, 2009, 02:08:28 PM
was he ON from the start?

From age 15 on.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 21, 2009, 02:18:34 PM
From age 15 on.

The guy in the pic, Marnul, said Arnold started at 13!
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: affeman on July 21, 2009, 03:27:18 PM
The guy in the pic, Marnul, said Arnold started at 13!

Arnold is really the luckiest Son of a Biatch alive. Many who would have started out like him would probably be dead at 30.

Not only has he made it careerwise, also he juiced half his childhood, has still grown tall without fucking up his growth plates, was still able to beget 4 children without fucking up his sperm-production, and is alive at 60+. Had no Gyno, no hair loss, no acne (medications to combat these things weren't even out back then), not even stretch-marks.

Became a multi-millionaire, 7 time Mr. O and the most famous representative of the sport till this day, a Movie Star, Governor.

How does one single son of a bitch deserve so much luck in life as this guy?
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Ursus on July 21, 2009, 03:38:04 PM
His chest was poor and grew to be his strongest part
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: SamoanIrishman on July 21, 2009, 03:52:40 PM
Cause it wasn't all luck...he had some lucky spots in life Im sure but the other 95% was hard fucking work, sacrifice, dedication, perserverence and more hard work.

It's like my black friend says, everyone has an excuse why they can't do something (college, job) but no one wants to work for it. Most people these days probably don't know what hard work is.

Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: MethodGNA on July 21, 2009, 03:55:16 PM
lets not forget to shed the requisite light on his "just got to LA, need to make rent" G4P days................ :) :)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Ursus on July 21, 2009, 03:56:17 PM
I notice those pics were saved and uploaded - NOT linked :-\
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: MethodGNA on July 21, 2009, 04:04:12 PM
your very perceptive ::), someone posted them in a thread not long ago, and i saved them, because i thought they were funny and might provide a laugh for someone else the way they did for me............your trophy is in the mail for "outing" me
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Ursus on July 21, 2009, 04:12:36 PM
Im busting your balls - strap your dick and ballics back on and get over it.

 ::)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 21, 2009, 04:16:47 PM
The guy in the pic, Marnul, said Arnold started at 13!
The guy in the pic, Marnul, said Arnold started at 13!

Here's the thing...

Marnul has been on record as saying that he introduced Arnold to steroids when he was 15. BUT Rick Wayne has said that Arnold confided to him that he started taking them at 13. So, who the hell knows.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 21, 2009, 04:23:55 PM
Here's the thing...

Marnul has been on record as saying that he introduced Arnold to steroids when he was 15. BUT Rick Wayne has said that Arnold confided to him that he started taking them at 13. So, who the hell knows.

Do you have the Wendy Leigh bio that these statements appear in? What exactly does it say?
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 21, 2009, 04:24:14 PM
I would have NEVER guessed his chest could improve sooo much

Nor become 7 times Mr. Olympia, 5 times Mr. Universe, and Mr. World.  8)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 21, 2009, 04:26:50 PM
His chest was poor and grew to be his strongest part

Truth.

He ALWAYS had the arms, though.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: hazbin on July 21, 2009, 04:29:11 PM
wish I could find that pic from the mid 70s of him jogging in the Vinces Gym tank top.    He had lost all his size hoping to get into the movies

this is from the same time frame.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 21, 2009, 04:30:54 PM
Do you have the Wendy Leigh bio that these statements appear in? What exactly does it say?

I have such a HUGE collection of Arnold magazines/books that I would have to dig for it to know exactly where it came from. But it's something that stood out and have not forgotten.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: hazbin on July 21, 2009, 04:32:33 PM
I have such a HUGE collection of Arnold magazines/books that I would have to dig for it to know exactly where it came from. But it's something that stood out and have not forgotten.

i have the wendy leigh book. it's  a witch hunt.  all the info is from people who knew Arnold and had fallings out with him.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 21, 2009, 04:32:48 PM
in those days he was known as the acorn....

Hence the thread title.  ;)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Ursus on July 21, 2009, 04:34:32 PM
My chest and calves are shit lik ehis were when he was 17ish

I wish i knew whathe done -
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Figo on July 21, 2009, 04:37:08 PM
this is from the same time frame.

wow! :o
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: hazbin on July 21, 2009, 04:45:50 PM
this is from the same time frame.

never replied to my own thread before, but i just noticed his calves are small. if they were implants, they couldn't have shrunk and reswelled for the 80 'O' or his later movies.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: TrueGrit on July 21, 2009, 05:04:24 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=290944.0;attach=330731;image)

Pollux? You ever showed this to your wife?
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Spike on July 21, 2009, 05:20:52 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=290944.0;attach=330731;image)

Pollux? You ever showed this to your wife?

he's like "what are you kidding? that shit is one the ceiling brah...only way she gets off"
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 21, 2009, 05:35:43 PM
Arnold is really the luckiest Son of a Biatch alive. Many who would have started out like him would probably be dead at 30.

Not only has he made it careerwise, also he juiced half his childhood, has still grown tall without fucking up his growth plates, was still able to beget 4 children without fucking up his sperm-production, and is alive at 60+. Had no Gyno, no hair loss, no acne (medications to combat these things weren't even out back then), not even stretch-marks.

Became a multi-millionaire, 7 time Mr. O and the most famous representative of the sport till this day, a Movie Star, Governor.

How does one single son of a bitch deserve so much luck in life as this guy?

she has been having hair transplants for years
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Stapleton on July 21, 2009, 11:31:44 PM
i have the wendy leigh book. it's  a witch hunt.  all the info is from people who knew Arnold and had fallings out with him.

I have the book as well and it was basically a revenge plot orchestrated by stallone who put Wendy in touch with rick wayne etc. Arnold had been trying to pull his usual psyche games on stallone who retaliated via Wendy. Another "Arnold book:  discussed the wendy-arnold drama.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Quickerblade on July 21, 2009, 11:39:56 PM
wish I could find that pic from the mid 70s of him jogging in the Vinces Gym tank top.    He had lost all his size hoping to get into the movies
i had that pic somewhere..

(http://www.theradreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/arnold_schwarzenegger3.jpg)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on July 22, 2009, 12:07:22 AM
i had that pic somewhere..

(http://www.theradreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/arnold_schwarzenegger3.jpg)

That is from the 1988 movie Twins, and that pic doesn't do any justice to Arnold's physique in that movie.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Mars on July 22, 2009, 01:26:48 AM
That is from the 1988 movie Twins, and that pic doesn't do any justice to Arnold's physique in that movie.

they better called the movie Twinks then.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: alnassak on July 22, 2009, 01:29:19 AM
Arnold is really the luckiest Son of a Biatch alive. Many who would have started out like him would probably be dead at 30.

Not only has he made it careerwise, also he juiced half his childhood, has still grown tall without fucking up his growth plates, was still able to beget 4 children without fucking up his sperm-production, and is alive at 60+. Had no Gyno, no hair loss, no acne (medications to combat these things weren't even out back then), not even stretch-marks.

Became a multi-millionaire, 7 time Mr. O and the most famous representative of the sport till this day, a Movie Star, Governor.

How does one single son of a bitch deserve so much luck in life as this guy?

Intersting post   ;D
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Alex23 on July 22, 2009, 01:35:00 AM
Great thread as usual pollux. Too bad we never got our board; the King of the Golden Era, the initiator of what has been called the "fitness revolution" all inspired by pumping Iron which, let's be honest wouldn't have happend witout King Arnold.. but still not worth making a board about it. In the meatime there are boards about pets, drugs, "tapout" enthousiasts (oh brother), not mention boards about "owning" faceless losers...


Sweet pic of Clarence in the background there....

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCA3218BT.jpg)

Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Mars on July 22, 2009, 01:52:33 AM
alex any tips on breaking the barrier of improving your arms?
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Alex23 on July 22, 2009, 02:00:43 AM
alex any tips on breaking the barrier of improving your arms?

Absoluefuckingly.

I've made pretty good gains lately training bi-tri the same day;

Start with heavy barbell curls; but start with high reps and walk your way up to 6 reps range.
Then switch to heavy dips right away, same ranges ~5 sets.

Then go back to biceps and blast back to back sets (maybe 4-5) on a concentration/isolation exercise. when your biceps skin is about to crack, switch to triceps, repeat (triceps extension? or maybe v bar pulldown).

Then go home to post on getbig but roll down your window and let you arm hang as it will be pumped as a house party cauck.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Mars on July 22, 2009, 02:10:10 AM
Absoluefuckingly.

I've made pretty good gains lately training bi-tri the same day;

Start with heavy barbell curls; but start with high reps and walk your way up to 6 reps range.
Then switch to heavy dips right away, same ranges ~5 sets.

Then go back to biceps and blast back to back sets (maybe 4-5) on a concentration/isolation exercise. when your biceps skin is about to crack, switch to triceps, repeat (triceps extension? or maybe v bar pulldown).

Then go home to post on getbig but roll down your window and let you arm hang as it will be pumped as a house party cauck.

haha thanks i will try. i already do bi and tri together lately and it feels like there improving, my arms are quite long so that i have a difficulty making them massive, maybe they would look good if i had short arms but hey i have to deal with them anyway. i did noticed tri dips with extra weight was a good decision.
like gh already said, if you want to improve your arms you should emphasize on getting stronger on all fronts so that they can do nothing but adapt.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: polychronopolous on July 22, 2009, 02:20:27 AM
haha thanks i will try. i already do bi and tri together lately and it feels like there improving, my arms are quite long so that i have a difficulty making them massive, maybe they would look good if i had short arms but hey i have to deal with them anyway. i did noticed tri dips with extra weight was a good decision.
like gh already said, if you want to improve your arms you should emphasize on getting stronger on all fronts so that they can do nothing but adapt.

That goes for your whole body....Focus on  getting stronger on every lift and your body will continue to improve every year.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 22, 2009, 05:20:04 AM
Great thread as usual pollux. Too bad we never got our board; the King of the Golden Era, the initiator of what has been called the "fitness revolution" all inspired by pumping Iron which, let's be honest wouldn't have happend witout King Arnold.. but still not worth making a board about it. In the meatime there are boards about pets, drugs, "tapout" enthousiasts (oh brother), not mention boards about "owning" faceless losers...

Thanks, Alex23.  8)

Why Ron would make a pet board, a wrestling board, an 'owning' board, etc. but NOT an Arnold Board on a 'bodybuilding' forum is beyond me. Go figure...  ::)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 22, 2009, 06:01:16 AM
Some more of the acorn...  8)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/ar15-1.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCASB42ZH.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCACDL94C.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCABA16KL.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCATAHG19.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCABMK15Y.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/mg163.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/m452.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAA05VCL.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/post-3-1198951958.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAZORUYM.jpg)



Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: TrueGrit on July 22, 2009, 06:05:12 AM
Thanks, Alex23.  8)

Why Ron would make a pet board, a wrestling board, an 'owning' board, etc. but NOT an Arnold Board on a 'bodybuilding' forum is beyond me. Go figure...  ::)

 To be fair to Ron he made those other boards to keep this one "bodybuilding related". Arnold is bodybuilding related and there are tons and tons of threads about him and pictures of him.

This way he stays on the main board and actually gets more exposure and his body is viewed by even more online males!
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Antony77 on July 22, 2009, 06:24:04 AM
Wow.

(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/Tyrol3/ddddddddddddddd.jpg)
(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/Tyrol3/indexnu7im8.jpg)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: affeman on July 22, 2009, 06:41:05 AM
Wow.

(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/Tyrol3/ddddddddddddddd.jpg)
(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/Tyrol3/indexnu7im8.jpg)


Steroids are only the finishing touch. Genetics is the key. Steroids make the last 2-3%.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Alex23 on July 22, 2009, 04:38:55 PM
To be fair to Ron he made those other boards to keep this one "bodybuilding related". Arnold is bodybuilding related and there are tons and tons of threads about him and pictures of him.

This way he stays on the main board and actually gets more exposure and his body is viewed by even more online males!


Yea that's a good point GritMan... but a dedicated board would allow us to have stickies about King Arnold's favorite gropping move, how he likes his eggs and why he allways picks up ugly mistresses.


Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 22, 2009, 07:23:50 PM
Steroids are only the finishing touch. Genetics is the key. Steroids make the last 2-3%.

That makes sense........

If the difference in muscular development from both pics was 2-3 %.




WOOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: hazbin on July 22, 2009, 07:33:15 PM
That makes sense........

If the difference in muscular development from both pics was 2-3 %.




WOOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

that would be a valid point if Arnold didn't touch another weight after he turned 16 - just sat around and did steroids.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Matt C on July 22, 2009, 07:38:23 PM
wish I could find that pic from the mid 70s of him jogging in the Vinces Gym tank top.    He had lost all his size hoping to get into the movies

 :-X

(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8&stc=1&d=1074116293)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Immortal_Technique on July 23, 2009, 03:29:16 AM
What's with the jazz bands playing live while he poses? Haha
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Quickerblade on July 23, 2009, 03:32:47 AM
:-X

(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8&stc=1&d=1074116293)
real lean there.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: funk51 on July 23, 2009, 01:16:41 PM
real lean there.
calf implants? now if someone could find the shot from the same period where he is doing calf raises and he looks skinny as a rail except for his calves.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Quickerblade on July 23, 2009, 01:20:05 PM
good for him, lose the bulk and make millions in hollywood..
the rest of the pros can only dream of his life, till then they will need to stick to tuna and diet coke, getting rubbed down by men and having males cheer for them on stage while they pose is thongs
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 23, 2009, 05:35:41 PM
real lean there.

that was during his very heavy cocaine years
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: hazbin on July 23, 2009, 07:07:45 PM
calf implants? now if someone could find the shot from the same period where he is doing calf raises and he looks skinny as a rail except for his calves.

check his calves here, they look small.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Danimal77 on July 23, 2009, 08:14:42 PM
real lean there.

As lean as he was, he was still 199 pounds on his then 6'1.5" frame. Down from 250-250 pounds of offseason weight.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: nodeal on July 23, 2009, 09:26:53 PM
I think he looks natural up to 16-17. But, damn, if he started juicing at 13 wow... :o
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: 11venthhour on July 24, 2009, 12:18:19 AM
:-X

(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8&stc=1&d=1074116293)

proof that cardio is bad for you!
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 24, 2009, 07:44:27 PM
FUCK you too KSA of Ironage forum!  :-*
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on July 24, 2009, 10:24:31 PM
Which year was that jogging pic taken? Even I am bigger than that.  :D





























I won't post pics.  8)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Figo on July 25, 2009, 12:54:35 AM
Steroids are only the finishing touch. Genetics is the key. Steroids make the last 2-3%.

I disagree strongly.

I believe aas is the 1.75 - 2.5 % finishing touch at the most.

Its all genes.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 25, 2009, 05:47:47 AM
Its all genes.

And Arnold had the ULTIMATE! You don't get into the '77 edition of the Gennius Book of World Records for having the greatest physique in the world without it.  8)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: The ChemistV2 on July 25, 2009, 08:39:44 AM
And Arnold had the ULTIMATE! You don't get into the '77 edition of the Gennius Book of World Records for having the greatest physique in the world without it.  8)
Exactly..you could put put 99% of the men in this world on Arnold's steroid cycle and let them workout and they will never look like this. In fact, most gym rats nowadays with their 'slin, GH, 1000s of milligrams of test and tren, clen, thyroid, etc. can't match Arnold with just his d-bol and Primobolin cyle. Genetics and.. ultra hard training and unstoppable desire.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 25, 2009, 08:48:05 AM
Exactly..you could put put 99% of the men in this world on Arnold's steroid cycle and let them workout and they will never look like this. In fact, most gym rats nowadays with their 'slin, GH, 1000s of milligrams of test and tren, clen, thyroid, etc. can't match Arnold with just his d-bol and Primobolin cyle. Genetics and.. ultra hard training and unstoppable desire.

Well said. The picture you posted of Arnold has got to be my favorite Arnold pic. He's relaxed, yet his physique looks so pleasing to the eye and doesn't look all grotesque. His physique in that pic is what makes girls drool and men jealous.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: The ChemistV2 on July 25, 2009, 09:34:00 AM
Yes..very few people today can match the fullness of those biceps and chest. That's as big as one can get without looking like a total freak..optimum mass, in my opinion.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 25, 2009, 01:58:43 PM
Exactly..you could put put 99% of the men in this world on Arnold's steroid cycle and let them workout and they will never look like this. In fact, most gym rats nowadays with their 'slin, GH, 1000s of milligrams of test and tren, clen, thyroid, etc. can't match Arnold with just his d-bol and Primobolin cyle. Genetics and.. ultra hard training and unstoppable desire.

Kids today go on drugs way too quickly and never train truly hard...because of that they do not nearly develop as they should, and end up giving up or screwing up in some other way.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: MethodGNA on July 25, 2009, 02:16:22 PM
that was during his very heavy cocaine years

was that a joke???
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 25, 2009, 07:46:56 PM
was that a joke???

Are you that naive?  ::)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Bones on July 25, 2009, 07:59:26 PM
wish I could find that pic from the mid 70s of him jogging in the Vinces Gym tank top.    He had lost all his size hoping to get into the movies
  I know I have it somewhere buried in a box with a few hundred old mags from the past....by the way, some very cool pics..I thought I had seen them all...guess not.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 25, 2009, 08:05:22 PM
 by the way, some very cool pics..I thought I had seen them all...guess not.

Thanks.  8)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Alex23 on July 25, 2009, 08:06:17 PM
Pollux = allways digs unseen photos.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 25, 2009, 08:16:07 PM
they better called the movie Twinks then.

haha

another gem
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Feizai on July 26, 2009, 01:37:39 AM
Pollux = allways digs unseen photos.

Pollux is a Getbig treasure.

From an acorn to a sapling;
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 26, 2009, 05:57:08 AM
Pollux = allways digs unseen photos.

I do it for you Getbiggers.  8)

But those jerkoffs over at Ironage and Raw-Iron (arnoldplatz, Jake, KSA, etc.) never give me credit when they 'borrow' my pics.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 26, 2009, 06:01:08 AM
I do it for you Getbiggers.  8)

But those jerkoffs over at Ironage and Raw-Iron (arnoldplatz, Jake, KSA, etc.) never give me credit when they 'borrow' my pics.

in all due respect, they are not your pics
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 26, 2009, 06:01:36 AM
Pollux is a Getbig treasure.

Thanks, Feizai. But I think you're the biggest treasure here when it comes to Arnold's younger years. Nobody realizes who you are.  ;)

By the way, is this another one of the issues you own...?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=290944.0;attach=331357;image)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 26, 2009, 06:04:13 AM
in all due respect, they are not your pics

The time to take and upload pics from my personal collection of magazines/books, etc. = my pics.

Just give me credit is all I'm asking.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Feizai on July 26, 2009, 06:59:38 AM
Thanks, Feizai. But I think you're the biggest treasure here when it comes to Arnold's younger years. Nobody realizes who you are.  ;)

By the way, is this another one of the issues you own...?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=290944.0;attach=331357;image)

I do own that issue.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Feizai on July 26, 2009, 07:09:00 AM
Another of THE ACORN


Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 26, 2009, 07:32:38 AM
The time to take and upload pics from my personal collection of magazines/books, etc. = my pics.

Just give me credit is all I'm asking.

no, that's cool
I know
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 26, 2009, 07:33:43 AM
Another of THE ACORN




Pollux...if Helmut beat Arnold there, as it says...why do we not hear of that as one of A's losses?
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: dr.chimps on July 26, 2009, 07:36:21 AM
The time to take and upload pics from my personal collection of magazines/books, etc. = my pics.

Just give me credit is all I'm asking.
Moose extends credit to no one these days. All must pay.   :-\
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 26, 2009, 07:43:21 AM
Moose extends credit to no one these days. All must pay.   :-\

there is a heavy credit crunch in the world these days
make yourself independently wealthy
then
credit does not matter
credit is overrated
mechanism for the man to keep you under his thumb
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: dr.chimps on July 26, 2009, 07:52:00 AM
there is a heavy credit crunch in the world these days
make yourself independently wealthy
then
credit does not matter
credit is overrated
mechanism for the man to keep you under his thumb
Remember what happened to Croesus, Moose? He realized the fickleness of fortune when it was too late. Good luck to you on your journey!   
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 26, 2009, 08:01:52 AM
Remember what happened to Croesus, Moose? He realized the fickleness of fortune when it was too late. Good luck to you on your journey!   

the world is what you make of it
say no to victims

'There are no victims
only volunteers...'
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Feizai on July 26, 2009, 08:02:42 AM
Pollux...if Helmut beat Arnold there, as it says...why do we not hear of that as one of A's losses?

Because Arnold says that the first contest he entered was the 1965 Jr. Europe and no one ever bothered to check the German language magazines (or the early English translations in Health & Strength, Ironman etc.).
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 26, 2009, 08:10:56 AM
Because Arnold says that the first contest he entered was the 1965 Jr. Europe and no one ever bothered to check the German language magazines (or the early English translations in Health & Strength, Ironman etc.).

Exactly! The real Arnold aficionado like Feizai and myself knows that that's not the case. His very first contest goes back farther than that, but for whatever reason these contests have been swept 'under the rug', if you will.

By the way, Feizai, all I can say is WOW! Thanks for posting the above Arnold pic!  :)

Is that pic from the issue you posted above?
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 26, 2009, 08:11:23 AM
Because Arnold says that the first contest he entered was the 1965 Jr. Europe and no one ever bothered to check the German language magazines (or the early English translations in Health & Strength, Ironman etc.).

so

are you saying that the Cali Governor
LIED?
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 26, 2009, 08:12:05 AM
fucking dreamtan  >:(

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=290944.0;attach=331394;image)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 26, 2009, 08:13:18 AM
Exactly! The real Arnold aficionado like Feizai and myself knows that that's not the case. His very first contest goes back farther than that, but for whatever reason these contests have been swept 'under the rug', if you will.

By the way, Feizai, all I can say is WOW! Thanks for posting the above Arnold pic!  :)

Is that pic from the issue you posted above?

yes
great photo
never saw that
Great tan, too

Pollux...so, prior to the 65 Europe, I have seen young pics of A seemingly in strange, 'beer hall'-like places where he is posing in front of bands for an audience. Were these contests as a teen?

You'd know, I'd imagine.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Feizai on July 26, 2009, 08:26:13 AM
That is from Der Muskelbilder (issue 21, summer 1964), which published the reports of the 3 contests that Arnold entered in April  '64.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 26, 2009, 08:32:04 AM
Pollux...so, prior to the 65 Europe, I have seen young pics of A seemingly in strange, 'beer hall'-like places where he is posing in front of bands for an audience. Were these contests as a teen?

You'd know, I'd imagine.

Yes. He was a teenager where he would be up against his mentor at the time, Kurt Marnul.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 26, 2009, 08:34:22 AM
That is from Der Muskelbilder (issue 21, summer 1964), which published the reports of the 3 contests that Arnold entered in April  '64.

fez
that is awesome
your collection may even rival that of the esteemed Pollux (no offense, Pollux)

could you scan and/or post the outcomes of those three shows arnie got vanquisned in?
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 26, 2009, 08:34:32 AM
Feizai, MUCH appreciation from me for taking the time to post pics and info.  :)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 26, 2009, 08:37:10 AM
fez
that is awesome
your collection may even rival that of the esteemed Pollux (no offense, Pollux)

could you scan and/or post the outcomes of those three shows arnie got vanquisned in?

None taken!  :)

I'll be the first to tell you his magazine collection beats mine for the fact that he has these old German magazines of Arnold in them. I envy him!

And yes, it would be very cool to post more pics.  8)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 26, 2009, 08:39:06 AM
None taken!  :)

I'll be the first to tell you his magazine collection beats mine for the fact that he has these old German magazines of Arnold in them. I envy him!

And yes, it would be very cool to post more pics.  8)

Pollux

how many unpublished bb photograhs (as far as American mainstream goes) of A do you think exist?
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 26, 2009, 08:40:08 AM
Here is a pic of the infamous Rolf Putziger (bald man with glasses) that Arnold referred to as 'Mr. Schneck' in his autobiography book who tried to get Arnold to do 'Gay for Pay' when he was young.

*Pic courtesy of Feizai

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/48775_Rolf_Putziger_judging_Best_Bu.jpg)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Feizai on July 26, 2009, 08:43:16 AM
Pollux

how many unpublished bb photograhs (as far as American mainstream goes) of A do you think exist?

I think I read that Albert Busek has taken 40,000 photos of Arnold.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 26, 2009, 08:44:01 AM
Pollux

how many unpublished bb photograhs (as far as American mainstream goes) of A do you think exist?

I'm sure VERY many! You have to keep in mind that he usually had his two main photographers, Albert Busek and George Butler, capturing him every step of the way through his bodybuilding days. Rest assure that we have NOT seen them all.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 26, 2009, 08:45:14 AM
I think I read that Albert Busek has taken 40,000 photos of Arnold.

I would LOVE to see Albert's collection! The man has taken pics of Arnold since he was 18!  :o
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Feizai on July 26, 2009, 08:51:55 AM
fez
that is awesome
your collection may even rival that of the esteemed Pollux (no offense, Pollux)

could you scan and/or post the outcomes of those three shows arnie got vanquisned in?

Try this;  http://www.gmv.com.au/default.asp?pageid=NEWSARICLES&template=NEWS&nid=147&cnid=1&site=1 (http://www.gmv.com.au/default.asp?pageid=NEWSARICLES&template=NEWS&nid=147&cnid=1&site=1)

It needs quite a bit of updating. For all recent updates, pics galore and insights on Arnold's career from lots of knowledgeable contributors, I recommend www.ironhistory.com
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: johnnytosh on July 26, 2009, 07:52:15 PM
GREAT PIC'S !!  Where did you get them from ??
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Feizai on July 26, 2009, 08:59:57 PM
All of the pics on GMV's web site are from English language magazines (H&S, Peak, Flex etc), books ('Education of a BB', Wendy Leigh, 'Arnold's encyclopaedia') or Arnold's old training booklets. One is a screen cap from PI and another a cap from a UK documentary.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Alex23 on July 26, 2009, 11:24:48 PM
Here is a pic of the infamous Rolf Putziger (bald man with glasses) that Arnold referred to as 'Mr. Schneck' in his autobiography book who tried to get Arnold to do 'Gay for Pay' when he was young.

*Pic courtesy of Feizai

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/48775_Rolf_Putziger_judging_Best_Bu.jpg)


Mad Props to Pollux and Feizai. This thread is a gem.

'Mr. Schneck' ... too bad Andreas (Munzer) wasn't so lucky :(
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 27, 2009, 06:15:57 AM

Mad Props to Pollux and Feizai. This thread is a gem.

'Mr. Schneck' ... too bad Andreas (Munzer) wasn't so lucky :(

wonder if schneck is still alive today
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Method101 on July 27, 2009, 06:18:09 AM
 8)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Feizai on July 27, 2009, 06:28:50 AM
wonder if schneck is still alive today

No, died in 1977.
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 27, 2009, 06:30:53 AM
No, died in 1977.

I thought Wendy Leigh interviewed him for that bio on Arnoild only about 10 yrs ago?
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Feizai on July 27, 2009, 06:37:24 AM
I thought Wendy Leigh interviewed him for that bio on Arnoild only about 10 yrs ago?

Her book (1990) mentions his death
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 27, 2009, 06:58:07 AM
No, died in 1977.

Thanks, Feizai! I hadn't read Wendy's book in quite some time and didn't recall whether his 'death' was mentioned or not. I was wondering if Rolf was alive too.

Feizai, do you live in the US or overseas that enables you to obtain all these German mags?
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 27, 2009, 07:01:52 AM
Her book (1990) mentions his death

dang, is that book THAT old?
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: dr.chimps on July 27, 2009, 07:10:03 AM
dang, is that book THAT old are we that much older?
Fixed!
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Matterhorn on July 27, 2009, 07:20:11 AM
That schlong was clearly morphed

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=290944.0;attach=330731;image)

Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 27, 2009, 08:31:41 AM
dang, is that book THAT old?

Just checked. And it is!  :o

lol
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 27, 2009, 08:32:43 AM
Fixed!

alas...
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: rccs on July 27, 2009, 06:10:32 PM
I think that Arnold might have had the best receptors - genetics-  testosterone reponder of all time... Truth is that he never trained naturally... probably he didn't have enough drive to try himself, without the drugs...
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: dr.chimps on July 27, 2009, 06:15:52 PM
alas...
I remember that book because Arnold was not gonna be co-operating in the writing of it and he was none to subtle about letting people around Hollywood know that if they did help her he would would be most displeased (Read: cut off your nuts). He pulled a lot of water even back then, and most people clammed up. 
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 27, 2009, 06:21:10 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 27, 2009, 06:37:24 PM
that would be a valid point if Arnold didn't touch another weight after he turned 16 - just sat around and did steroids.

Wrong......
Steroids the 2 % final touch? dont be naive

This is Arnold nov 1975 age 28 best bb of the world......
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=290944.0;attach=331593;image)
by february (1976)more than 20 % of what you see there was gone ! in less than three months !!! remember he was only 28 eating and trainning and doing seminars after the show yet he didnt have chest,triceps legs i will find pics of Arnold still age 28-29 and looking like nothing he did in Nov 1975.



WOOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 27, 2009, 06:39:54 PM
I remember that book because Arnold was not gonna be co-operating in the writing of it and he was none to subtle about letting people around Hollywood know that if they did help her he would would be most displeased (Read: cut off your nuts). He pulled a lot of water even back then, and most people clammed up. 

he even traveled to canada to lunch with MB writer jack Neary, hoping his comments would be 'positive'
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 27, 2009, 06:48:59 PM
I think that Arnold might have had the best receptors - genetics-  testosterone reponder of all time...

Truth. His genetics were SUPERIOR! Would've been interesting to see how Meinhard would've transformed had he had the passion Arnold did for bodybuilding. In fact, it was Kurt Marnul who thought Meinhard had the better physique than Arnold at the time when they first started.  :o
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 27, 2009, 06:55:36 PM
I disagree strongly.

I believe aas is the 1.75 - 2.5 % finishing touch at the most.

Its all genes.

All genes or all drugs?

Look what happens when he lowered the dosage...


ID say more than 1.75 %............


WOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: lax on July 27, 2009, 06:57:08 PM
All genes or all drugs?

Look what happens when he lowered the dosage...


ID say more than 1.75 %............


WOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

lower pic
posing at Whitney museum in NY with Corney and Zane?
Title: Re: He wasn't always THE OAK!
Post by: Pollux on July 27, 2009, 07:06:59 PM
Some more of the acorn before becoming The Oak...

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAYZYMQ3.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/indexCAHJFX8C.jpg)

(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/ghdfr.jpg)