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Title: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Royalty on July 22, 2009, 05:59:32 AM
Both men were once school teachers....and pro bodybuilders. As school teachers, they both were in situations where students got aggressive with them.

According to the Rambling Freak, Greg Valentino (who knows a guy who trained at the original Golds Gym in the 70's).....as a teacher Frank Zane was slapped across the face by a student and he did nothing.

Contrast that With Waller's approach.

Ken Waller had a student swing at him but Waller dodged the punch. Waller then grabbed the student and tossed his ass through a glass window!

Ken Waller = crazy redheaded badass

Just like "grounds keeper Willie" from The Simpsons
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Figo on July 22, 2009, 06:00:56 AM
yes
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: lax on July 22, 2009, 07:23:01 AM
Both men were once school teachers....and pro bodybuilders. As school teachers, they both were in situations where students got aggressive with them.

According to the Rambling Freak, Greg Valentino (who knows a guy who trained at the original Golds Gym in the 70's).....as a teacher Frank Zane was slapped across the face by a student and he did nothing.

Contrast that With Waller's approach.

Ken Waller had a student swing at him but Waller dodged the punch. Waller then grabbed the student and tossed his ass through a glass window!

Ken Waller = crazy redheaded badass

Just like "grounds keeper Willie" from The Simpsons

Zane=Teachers Pension
and beautiful house in San Diego

Waller=nothing of the sort
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: noworries on July 22, 2009, 07:29:57 AM
Zane=Teachers Pension
and beautiful house in San Diego

Waller=nothing of the sort

You obviously never hung around Ken much.
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on July 22, 2009, 07:31:37 AM
Valvalino was not training in Gold's in the 70's . . . that asshole was born August 5, 1960. Are you saying his G4P ass was in Golds when he was a teen?

Get your facts straight punk.

The Beef
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on July 22, 2009, 07:32:16 AM
I respect Zane's behaviour more...
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: haider on July 22, 2009, 07:32:32 AM
Zane=Teachers Pension
and beautiful house in San Diego

Waller=nothing of the sort
you = Algebra teacher
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Tapeworm on July 22, 2009, 07:34:20 AM
Then I have more respect for Zane than Waller.  Obviously neither kid was much of a threat.  

Someone who keeps their cool and reads the situation is a better man than some hothead who flips out without thinking.  That kid could have been disfigured, blinded, killed, etc.  What a stupid, nasty thing to do.  What did happen to the kid?
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Get Rowdy on July 22, 2009, 07:43:39 AM
You obviously never hung around Ken much.

Onlyme, was it you who told the story about Waller chasing down some guy after his car got kicked?
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: local hero on July 22, 2009, 09:57:35 AM
typical tut tut ginger nut fiery temper.................. red for danger!
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: bigdumbbell on July 22, 2009, 10:02:45 AM
teachers pension...rip off the taxpayers
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: jaejonna on July 22, 2009, 10:38:52 AM
both wanted to be with arnold
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Royalty on July 22, 2009, 11:23:25 AM
Valvalino was not training in Gold's in the 70's . . .

Get your facts straight punk.

The Beef


Get your reading straight. I never said that Greg trained in the 70's. I clearly stated above that Greg has a friend that trained at the original Golds. Read slower. It may or may not help you.
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Swedish Viking on July 22, 2009, 11:27:23 AM
I've heard a lot of stories about Ken Waller's fighting and I think they came from a reliable source but I'm not 100% sure...what I heard was that he was no stranger to kicking ass. 
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: uberman09 on July 22, 2009, 11:59:17 AM
(http://www.thearnoldfans.com/pictures/goldconvention/rickenwaller1.jpg)
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Parker on July 22, 2009, 12:06:06 PM
(http://www.thearnoldfans.com/pictures/goldconvention/rickenwaller1.jpg)

Ken looks like he would get someone ass just for looking at him wrong.  Even in the Pumping Iron Interview he seemed hot headed.
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Figo on July 22, 2009, 12:22:19 PM
(http://www.davedraper.com/fusionbb/fbbuploads/med_1208038382-imgzane2005.jpg)

(http://www.dannypadilla.com/photos/WallerInBed.jpg)
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Matt C on July 22, 2009, 02:00:51 PM
(http://www.thearnoldfans.com/pictures/goldconvention/rickenwaller1.jpg)

Doesn't that t-shirt belong to Mike Katz?
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 22, 2009, 02:47:57 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 22, 2009, 02:57:33 PM
Both men were once school teachers....and pro bodybuilders. As school teachers, they both were in situations where students got aggressive with them.

According to the Rambling Freak, Greg Valentino (who knows a guy who trained at the original Golds Gym in the 70's).....as a teacher Frank Zane was slapped across the face by a student and he did nothing.

Contrast that With Waller's approach.

Ken Waller had a student swing at him but Waller dodged the punch. Waller then grabbed the student and tossed his ass through a glass window!

Ken Waller = crazy redheaded badass

Just like "grounds keeper Willie" from The Simpsons
Zane = Class probably sent the guy to the principles office
           Waller = Asshole
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Royalty on July 22, 2009, 03:37:55 PM
I bet if Waller had time to think about it he may have acted different.....maybe a headlock until the kid calmed down. But I guess he just reacted because he didn't have time to think.


Zane is Mr control. Imagine being slapped in the face by a punk and doing nothing. That's control. Or fear. I'm not sure with him. Hard to say. But yes Zane is a classy guy. Articulate and well spoken.
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: oldman on July 22, 2009, 09:01:59 PM
He looks like shit now, is that rick drason with him???
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: pumpster on July 22, 2009, 09:09:35 PM
Zane = Class probably sent the guy to the principles office
           Waller = Asshole

Funny some of the opinions on Waller when in fact Arnold was at least as big an ahole both in the movie and in life. Waller was actually known for being a nice guy in the gym actually. Just goes to show what the masses will accept in the absence of real evidence. The guy has red hair therefore he's a hothead, etc.

In 1980 Schwarzie only talked tough at the olympia when Waller was there. No coincidence as Schwarzie was considered quite the pussy without his cronies around.

In one of the TV episodes of "the gym" from a few years back Zane appeared in venice and came across as a real drip to the owner of the gym and to most viewers i'd say. No personality whatsoever. Not retaliating to a punch thrown isn't necessarily any smarter.
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: gib on July 22, 2009, 11:27:45 PM
He looks like shit now, is that rick drason with him???

Yip - that's Rick.
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Purge_WTF on July 23, 2009, 12:06:28 AM
According to the Rambling Freak, Greg Valentino (who knows a guy who trained at the original Golds Gym in the 70's).....as a teacher Frank Zane was slapped across the face by a student and he did nothing.

Contrast that With Waller's approach.

Ken Waller had a student swing at him but Waller dodged the punch. Waller then grabbed the student and tossed his ass through a glass window!

  I like Waller's way better.
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: kreator on July 23, 2009, 12:11:20 AM
oh come on.....we're talking about bodybuilders here.......you don't actually believe waller threw somebody out of a window now do you?
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 23, 2009, 04:50:07 AM
He looks like shit now, is that rick drason with him???
Drason looks pretty good damn what happen to Waller?
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: lax on July 23, 2009, 04:56:49 AM
You obviously never hung around Ken much.

he is a bitter man
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: lax on July 23, 2009, 04:57:33 AM
you = Algebra teacher

chemistry, actually
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: lax on July 23, 2009, 08:17:39 AM
3 Mr. Olympias
and two others he should have won

vs:

Could not beat Katz
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Royalty on July 23, 2009, 04:26:46 PM
oh come on.....we're talking about bodybuilders here.......you don't actually believe waller threw somebody out of a window now do you?

 through a glass window inside the building Im presuming
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: rccs on July 23, 2009, 06:06:14 PM
bbers were different back then... much more athletic...
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on July 25, 2009, 12:18:05 PM

Get your reading straight. I never said that Greg trained in the 70's. I clearly stated above that Greg has a friend that trained at the original Golds. Read slower. It may or may not help you.

Yeah . . . sorry.

The Beef
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: kyomu on July 25, 2009, 12:35:11 PM
Have you ever seen this, you guys?
Its new to me. Its the off season Ken.
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: lax on July 25, 2009, 12:38:09 PM
Have you ever seen this, you guys?
Its new to me. Its the off season Ken.


from stay hungry the movie

Kyomu...better bruch up on your knowledge
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: kyomu on July 25, 2009, 12:43:03 PM
from stay hungry the movie

Kyomu...better bruch up on your knowledge
Yes true. I still havent seen that movie..
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: stuntmovie on July 25, 2009, 12:52:42 PM
Waller and Zane. Two completely different type individuals. Completely different personalities.

Zane was more of a Zen type dude.

Waller was more of a 'chase 'em down the street and beat them up' type guy. Stories go that he'd enter a grocery store, eat some food until he reached his full, and depart.  (But that was 2nd hand info when talking about the funny stuff the guys did back in them good old days.)

Only me has better stories to tell in this regards.
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: ManBearPig... on July 25, 2009, 01:51:56 PM
Waller and Zane. Two completely different type individuals. Completely different personalities.

Zane was more of a Zen type dude.

Waller was more of a 'chase 'em down the street and beat them up' type guy. Stories go that he'd enter a grocery store, eat some food until he reached his full, and depart.  (But that was 2nd hand info when talking about the funny stuff the guys did back in them good old days.)

Only me has better stories to tell in this regards.

sounds like a piece of shit to me.
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: stuntmovie on July 25, 2009, 02:06:07 PM
Pig, often stated. Never proved!
Title: Re: The difference between Frank Zane and Ken Waller
Post by: Sarcastic Deity on July 25, 2009, 02:11:27 PM
Pig, often stated. Never proved!

lol

stunt, do you still see keith around..how's he doing