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July 29, 2009
Sarah Grabs the Grievance Grab Bag From Hillary
By MAUREEN DOWD
WASHINGTON
The woman who was prematurely counted in is out. And the woman who was prematurely counted out is in.
Goodbye, Sarah. Hello, Hillary.
In their vivid twin performances Sunday — Hillary on “Meet the Press” in Washington and Sarah at her farewell picnic in Fairbanks — two of the most celebrated and polarizing women in American political history offered a fascinating contrast.
Hillary, who so often in the past came across as aggrieved, paranoid and press-loathing, was confident and comfortable in her role as top diplomat, discussing the world with mastery and shrugging off suggestions that she has been disappeared by her former rival, the president.
Sarah, who was once a blazingly confident media darling, came across as aggrieved, paranoid and press-loathing in her new role as bizarre babe-at-large, a Nixon with hair extensions ranting about “American apologetics,” which sounds like a cross between apologists and Dianetics.
Sarah once criticized Hillary for being a whiny presidential contender, arguing that women who want “to progress this country” should not complain about being under a “sharper microscope,” but instead should just work harder to prove themselves capable. Now Sarah is a whiny presidential contender, complaining about the sharper microscope that women wanting to progress this country are under and rejecting advice to work harder to prove herself capable.
The Alaskan who shot to stardom a year ago as the tough embodiment of Diana the Huntress has now stepped down as governor and morphed into what the Republicans always caricatured Hillary as — preachy, screechy and angry.
And Hillary, who is at long last in a job that she earned on her own merits, has lost that irritating question mark she used to carry around above her head like a thunder cloud: What is Hillary owed because of what she gave up, and went through, for Bill?
During the campaign, Hillary got in trouble for pretending to be more than she was, for bragging about dodging bullets in Bosnia and making peace in Northern Ireland. Just so, Sarah got in trouble for pretending to be knowledgeable about foreign affairs just because she lived across the Bering Strait from Russia.
But now Hillary does not have to tell stretchers. She’s fully qualified for her job and doesn’t sound defensive. Now Sarah has taken up Hillary’s old habit of keeping grudges and playing the victim and blaming the press for her own mistakes in judgment and gaffes.
If Sarah’s problem on the trail was that she knew too little, Hillary’s was that she knew too much. Before her misty turn in New Hampshire, Hillary’s wonkiness got in the way of her ability to make people comfortable.
Sarah, lacking Hillary’s cerebral side, has decided to wing it, Quayle-style, and go only for the visceral. That’s why she now sounds like a demagogue, embodying grievances and playing to people’s worst impulses.
Hillary’s radiant robustness, on the other hand, even with a sore elbow, makes the dictators in Iran and North Korea we’re so worried about seem like frail, little creatures.
Obama advisers say privately that the president truly respects the woman he ran against, and that they have a good relationship, so good it has even surprised Hillary. Certainly, she doesn’t have to worry that this president’s gaze is going to drift over her shoulder to some pretty thing behind her. In this White House, Barack Obama is the pretty thing who is taken with Hillary’s serious, smartest-girl-at-Wellesley aura. In a funny way, he’s the man of her dreams.
His support of her has allowed her to keep her paranoia in check — even with Richard Holbrooke and Joe Biden biting off parts of her portfolio.
Just to make sure it stays that way, Obama advisers told Hillary that she could not bring on board Sidney Blumenthal, her former aide de camp nicknamed G.K., “Grassy Knoll,” for his tendency to stoke her grievances.
In her cuckoo speech in Fairbanks, Sarah warned Alaskans to “be wary of accepting government largess. It doesn’t come free.” Funny coming from a woman who charged the Alaskan taxpayers every time she worked from Wasilla.
She also went after that old conservative villain Hollywood, saying, “They use these delicate, tiny, very talented celebrity starlets” for “their anti-Second Amendment causes.”
Sarah seems happily oblivious that she benefited from Hollywood casting techniques. Just as movie directors have beautiful young actresses playing nuclear physicists and Harvard professors, knowing the fusion of sex appeal and a heavyweight profession will excite, the novelty of a beautiful former beauty queen and TV reporter cast in a powerful role that has featured dour, gray old men like Dick Cheney was thrilling. At first.
As McCain pal and Republican strategist Mike Murphy so sagely observed recently: “If Sarah Palin looked like Golda Meir, would we even be talking about her today?”
Sarah should follow her own advice to Hillary and work harder to be capable. Until then, she’s all cage, no bird.
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Apparently ol maureen has nothing better to do...her messiah is tanking and screwing up the country as he goes so her next best thing is to attack a woman, to whom the average person could care less about. Does she have any original ideas or is she just stuck on Palin.
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to attack a woman
geez, don't play into the gender card.
She's attacking a former Vp candidate who just quit her job as gov 65% thru.
"attack a woman". Sheesh. hey, you attack a minority when you slam obama.
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240, what the hell are u talking about. The fact she's a attacking a woman doesnt matter, unless Dowd, who's a fucking douchbag to begin with, is worried about something. She's being attacked because Dowd has nothing better to talk about. She can't trumpet Obama, he's failing on a daily basis, so she attacks Palin. I think ur losing ur mind.
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240, what the hell are u talking about. The fact she's a attacking a woman doesnt matter, unless Dowd, who's a fucking douchbag to begin with, is worried about something. She's being attacked because Dowd has nothing better to talk about. She can't trumpet Obama, he's failing on a daily basis, so she attacks Palin. I think ur losing ur mind.
I do wish SP the best of luck in her private life.
With that being said, Im from New Jersey. Some of our local politicians have just been caught is a huge corruption sting.
These officials are not willing to resign even though the sting has been going on for sometime.
In NJ, we are not used to politicians quitting. They would sell their own mother, wives and children to hold onto power.
A govenor giving up power....
Makes one go hmmmmm
Sandra
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I do wish SP the best of luck in her private life.
With that being said, Im from New Jersey. Some of our local politicians have just been caught is a huge corruption sting.
These officials are not willing to resign even though the sting has been going on for sometime.
In NJ, we are not used to politicians quitting. They would sell their own mother, wives and children to hold onto power.
A govenor giving up power....
Makes one go hmmmmm
Sandra
Just looks at the SC Gov. Refuses to quit after being caught with his pants down.
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Just looks at the SC Gov. Refuses to quit after being caught with his pants down.
Well, that is the point.
Those in power never give it up without a fight.
Govenor McGreevy with his Gay outing used that as an excuse to step down.
In New Jersey, it is thought that there was something else cooking to take him down.
Sandra
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Well, that is the point.
Those in power never give it up without a fight.
Govenor McGreevy with his Gay outing used that as an excuse to step down.
In New Jersey, it is thought that there was something else cooking to take him down.
Sandra
True. Clinton, Blago, Newsome, LA Mayor, Kilpatrick, etc. One of the few exceptions in addition to McGreevy was Spitzer, but he only quit so they wouldn't prosecute him.
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So, do you believe that she quit because of the reasons she stated?
I loved the William Shatner version of her speech verbatim.
I was able to better understand it when it was set in a poetry setting.
Sandra
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So, do you believe that she quit because of the reasons she stated?
I loved the William Shatner version of her speech verbatim.
I was able to better understand it when it was set in a poetry setting.
Sandra
Don't have any reason to doubt her. I think she should have finished her term, but I don't have $500,000 in legal expenses either.
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Palin = shady excuses ever.
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Palin = shady excuses ever.
Maybe she just wants to cash in while she can so her family is set for life.
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Palin got more abuse then any politician ever and even her kids were attacked.Hillary cried because she was asked tough questions in the debates first.Its a bit different.An idiot could figure that out.
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Maybe she just wants to cash in while she can so her family is set for life.
She should. That is what I said long ago. If that is why she quit, I would fully understand. I stated that she should drop the political aspirations and start marketing herself on a more successful level.
Unfortunately, the idiot thinks she is somehow going to wind up as the candidate in 2012. Which only shows what kind of common sense she has. Or rather, lacks.
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Maybe she just wants to cash in while she can so her family is set for life.
of course that's the reason.
it's just insulting when she says it's because "lame ducks at 65% of their term waste taxpayer dollars".
She wants to get rich, that's great.
Just another transparent lie. And, of course, the palinites defend it. "Yeah, really, nobody gets anything done the last 2 years in office. you betcha!"
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of course that's the reason.
it's just insulting when she says it's because "lame ducks at 65% of their term waste taxpayer dollars".
She wants to get rich, that's great.
Just another transparent lie. And, of course, the palinites defend it. "Yeah, really, nobody gets anything done the last 2 years in office. you betcha!"
You know its amazing.Your a guy who gets offended or points out "what does that have to do with the subject" when someone uses sarcasm to insult one of your guys.Yet,you ALWAYS mock her with "you betcha".Your a two faced fool.Typical lib,you can dish it out but cry like a bitch because you cant take it.How is that fucking brilliant Caroline Kennedy doing by the way?
Isnt she the girl that you said would make a viable vice presidential candidtate[YOU KNOW]?She really showed her toughness[YOU KNOW],that lightweight moron quit BEFORE she ever got in the game[YOU KNOW].Dead silence from 240[YOU KNOW].Never heard you say she is a quitter at all.[you know].Colin Powell quit right in the middle of a war,240 think POWELL should speak for republicans.Incredible hypocrite!!!!Typical left wing lib,talking out of both sides of your mouth.
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You know its amazing.Your a guy who gets offended or points out "what does that have to do with the subject" when someone uses sarcasm to insult one of your guys.Yet,you ALWAYS mock her with "you betcha".Your a two faced fool.Typical lib,you can dish it out but cry like a bitch because you cant take it.How is that fucking brilliant Caroline Kennedy doing by the way?
Isnt she the #### that you said would make a viable vice presidential candidtate[YOU KNOW]?She really showed her toughness[YOU KNOW],that lightweight moron quit BEFORE she ever got in the game[YOU KNOW].Dead silence from 240[YOU KNOW].Never heard you say she is a quitter at all.[you know].Colin Powell quit right in the middle of a war,240 think POWELL should speak for republicans.Incredible hypocrite!!!!Typical left wing lib,talking out of both sides of your mouth.
240 = owned on this!
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brutal attack the messenger, not the message
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brutal attack the messenger, not the message
The message is that you point out Palin is a quitter yet said NOTHING when that half wit hapless do nothing Kennedy quit.Powell quit DURING A WAR and you not only say nothing,you praise his every word.Obama was a senator for less then two years and wasn't satisfied AND QUIT and you voted for him and praise him,Joe Biden actually ran for senator WHILE he was running for vice president so that he would have a built in job win or loose then QUIT his senator job and gamed the system and you praise him[stand up chuck].
The only one you knock is Palin.Its obvious your nothing but a male chauvinist and you hate successful women.You like women when they are incompetant and homely ,like Kennedy,but when they are successful and good looking you have a deep hatred of them.
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Palin is always going to play the victim and martyr for support. She thinks if she makes herself a sympathetic figure people won't ask her tough questions like "why are you qualified for VP?" etc. You know actual political questions.
I have a hard time believing anyone and i mean ANYONE with any brain cells would actually think this woman is suitable for higher public office over other nominees in the republican party.
Her continued support on this board just shows a continued fascination with style over substance by vapid loser fan boys.
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kay bailey hitchinson would be an excellent choice for prez in 2012 for the repub ticket.
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kay bailey hitchinson would be an excellent choice for prez in 2012 for the repub ticket.
I personally have a lot of respect for Mike Huckabee. The way he handled himself in defeat and was able to make a joke about it on SNL was great. As was his debate with John Stewart, no yelling, screaming etc just straight debate and level headedness.
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kay bailey hitchinson would be an excellent choice for prez in 2012 for the repub ticket.
PRO CHOICE-SHES OUT!!
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PRO CHOICE-SHES OUT!!
Correct. That's why she wasn't selected as VP. Can't see a pro choice Republican getting the nomination.
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Correct. That's why she wasn't selected as VP. Can't see a pro choice Republican getting the nomination.
silly that so many repubs would prefer a barely competent candidate like palin because of the abortion issue.
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silly that so many repubs would prefer a barely competent candidate like palin because of the abortion issue.
A majority of Republicans would likely reject any pro choice candidate.
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A majority of Republicans would likely reject any pro choice candidate.
specifically, what are the numbers?
what % of americans are repubs?
what % of them polled said they would reject a pro-choice candidate.
I think if BOTH candidates were pro-choice, they would select the (R) anyway. Even if only to vote against a spend-happy lib. Obama won not based on his own merits, but because he was perceived as the anti-bush.
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specifically, what are the numbers?
what % of americans are repubs?
what % of them polled said they would reject a pro-choice candidate.
I think if BOTH candidates were pro-choice, they would select the (R) anyway. Even if only to vote against a spend-happy lib. Obama won not based on his own merits, but because he was perceived as the anti-bush.
I don't know. Look it up.
Sort of a moot discussion anyway. I can't even think of a viable potential pro choice Republican candidate.
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specifically, what are the numbers?
what % of americans are repubs?
what % of them polled said they would reject a pro-choice candidate.
I think if BOTH candidates were pro-choice, they would select the (R) anyway. Even if only to vote against a spend-happy lib. Obama won not based on his own merits, but because he was perceived as the anti-bush.
What do you care 240?
You will be wearing your ACORN shirt in 2012 and signing up dead people and homeless to vote for Obama anyway, if they are not already signed up.
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What do you care 240?
You will be wearing your ACORN shirt in 2012 and signing up dead people and homeless to vote for Obama anyway, if they are not already signed up.
Such a sore loser huh? hahahaha
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silly that so many repubs would prefer a barely competent candidate like palin because of the abortion issue.
Exactly. As if any president is ever going to be able to over turn roe v wade anyway. Or have any impact on it whatsoever.
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Exactly. As if any president is ever going to be able to over turn roe v wade anyway. Or have any impact on it whatsoever.
Wow, we have an incompetent president who is only there because of the color of his skin. Its all the same.
If Obama were 100% white and named Barry o'Malley with the same credentials, he would not have even made it out of the primary.
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specifically, what are the numbers?
what % of americans are repubs?
what % of them polled said they would reject a pro-choice candidate.
I think if BOTH candidates were pro-choice, they would select the (R) anyway. Even if only to vote against a spend-happy lib. Obama won not based on his own merits, but because he was perceived as the anti-bush.
No,the religious right just would sit out the vote.Once that happens thats the end of the republican candidate.Its WHY McCAIN picked Palin,to get the base out.[by the way,if McCain would have picked Lieberman or Hutchinson he would have gotten 25% of the vote.
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Exactly. As if any president is ever going to be able to over turn roe v wade anyway. Or have any impact on it whatsoever.
Yes the president has a direct impact on the abortion question. Roe v. Wade is probably one Supreme Court vote away from being overturned (Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Alito + 1). If McCain were president now and he appointed a pro life conservative judge instead of Sotomayor, there would be a raging debate going on in this country.
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Yes the president has a direct impact on the abortion question. Roe v. Wade is probably one Supreme Court vote away from being overturned (Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Alito + 1). If McCain were president now and he appointed a pro life conservative judge instead of Sotomayor, there would be a raging debate going on in this country.
Maybe,I wouldnt trust McCAIN to do the right thing in every case.Remember he wrote the amnesty bill.
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Palin is always going to play the victim and martyr for support. She thinks if she makes herself a sympathetic figure people won't ask her tough questions like "why are you qualified for VP?" etc. You know actual political questions.
I have a hard time believing anyone and i mean ANYONE with any brain cells would actually think this woman is suitable for higher public office over other nominees in the republican party.
Her continued support on this board just shows a continued fascination with style over substance by vapid loser fan boys.
haha
excellent post