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Title: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: BM OUT on July 31, 2009, 06:29:29 AM
"AMERICA WITHOUT APOLOGIES"
  An actual letter to the passport office...
Dear sirs:
 

I'm in the process of renewing my passport, and still cannot believe this?
How is it that Radio Shack has my address and telephone number and knows that I bought a t.v. cable from them back in 1987, and yet, the Federal Government is still asking me where I was born and on what date?
For Christ sakes, do you guys do this by hand? My birth date you have on my social security card, and it is on all the income tax forms I've filed for the past 30 years. It is on my health insurance card, my driver's license, on the last eight damn passports I've had, on all those stupid customs declaration forms I've had to fill out before being allowed off the planes over the last 30 years, and all those insufferable census forms that are done at election times.
Would somebody please take note, once and for all, that my mother's name is Maryanne, my father's name is Robert and I'd be absolutely astounded if that ever changed between now and when I die!!!!!! SHIT!
I apologize, I'm really pissed off this morning.. Between you an' me, I've had enough of this bullshit! You send the application to my house, then you ask me for my fuckin' address. What is going on? You have a gang of Neanderthal assholes workin' there! Look at my damn picture. Do I look like Bin Laden? I don't want to dig up Yasser Arafat, for shit sakes. I just want to go and park my ass on a sandy beach. And would someone please tell me, why would you give a shit whether I plan on visiting a farm in the next 15 days? If I ever got the urge to do something weird to a chicken or a goat, believe you me, I'd sure as hell not want to tell anyone!
Well, I have to go now, 'cause I have to go to the other end of the city and get another fuckin' copy of my birth certificate, to the tune of $60. Would it be so complicated to have all the services in the same spot to assist in the issuance of a new passport the same day?? Nooooo, that'd be to damn easy and maybe makes sense. You'd rather have us running all over the fuckin' place like chickens with our heads cut off, then find some asshole to confirm that it's really me on the damn picture - you know, the one where we're not allowed to smile?! (bureaucratic fuckin' morons)
Hey, you know why we can't smile? We're totally pissed off!
Signed - An Irate Citizen.
P.S. Remember what I said above about the picture and getting someone to confirm that it's me? Well, my family has been in this country since 1776.
I have served in the military for something over 30 years and have had security clearances up the yingyang. However, I have to get someone 'important' to verify who I am - you know, someone like my doctor WHO WAS BORN AND RAISED IN F-------  INDIA !
Sincerely,
 
 
 
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 31, 2009, 06:40:17 AM
"AMERICA WITHOUT APOLOGIES"
  An actual letter to the passport office...
Dear sirs:
 

I'm in the process of renewing my passport, and still cannot believe this?
How is it that Radio Shack has my address and telephone number and knows that I bought a t.v. cable from them back in 1987, and yet, the Federal Government is still asking me where I was born and on what date?
For Christ sakes, do you guys do this by hand? My birth date you have on my social security card, and it is on all the income tax forms I've filed for the past 30 years. It is on my health insurance card, my driver's license, on the last eight damn passports I've had, on all those stupid customs declaration forms I've had to fill out before being allowed off the planes over the last 30 years, and all those insufferable census forms that are done at election times.
Would somebody please take note, once and for all, that my mother's name is Maryanne, my father's name is Robert and I'd be absolutely astounded if that ever changed between now and when I die!!!!!! SHIT!
I apologize, I'm really pissed off this morning.. Between you an' me, I've had enough of this bullshit! You send the application to my house, then you ask me for my fuckin' address. What is going on? You have a gang of Neanderthal assholes workin' there! Look at my damn picture. Do I look like Bin Laden? I don't want to dig up Yasser Arafat, for shit sakes. I just want to go and park my ass on a sandy beach. And would someone please tell me, why would you give a shit whether I plan on visiting a farm in the next 15 days? If I ever got the urge to do something weird to a chicken or a goat, believe you me, I'd sure as hell not want to tell anyone!
Well, I have to go now, 'cause I have to go to the other end of the city and get another fuckin' copy of my birth certificate, to the tune of $60. Would it be so complicated to have all the services in the same spot to assist in the issuance of a new passport the same day?? Nooooo, that'd be to damn easy and maybe makes sense. You'd rather have us running all over the fuckin' place like chickens with our heads cut off, then find some asshole to confirm that it's really me on the damn picture - you know, the one where we're not allowed to smile?! (bureaucratic fuckin' morons)
Hey, you know why we can't smile? We're totally pissed off!
Signed - An Irate Citizen.
P.S. Remember what I said above about the picture and getting someone to confirm that it's me? Well, my family has been in this country since 1776.
I have served in the military for something over 30 years and have had security clearances up the yingyang. However, I have to get someone 'important' to verify who I am - you know, someone like my doctor WHO WAS BORN AND RAISED IN F-------  INDIA !
Sincerely,
 

The same idiots who think the Govt will run health care any different than the DMV or post office are the same morons who still believe in the tooth fairy and santa claus.   
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 31, 2009, 06:50:40 AM
The passport office wants to take over healthcare?  Well, that's a new one.

Meanwhile, the writer of this little rant and the cut-n-paster that brought it here only show that they have zero percentage of common sense to apply, in addition to zero understanding of national security and clearance.

I simply can't remember the last time I had to mail in my social security card, drivers license, tax returns, health insurance card or any of the other little bullshit items included here.

But if it makes you feel better about being so bitter.... more power to you.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: tonymctones on July 31, 2009, 07:03:35 AM
The passport office wants to take over healthcare?  Well, that's a new one.

Meanwhile, the writer of this little rant and the cut-n-paster that brought it here only show that they have zero percentage of common sense to apply, in addition to zero understanding of national security and clearance.

I simply can't remember the last time I had to mail in my social security card, drivers license, tax returns, health insurance card or any of the other little bullshit items included here.

But if it makes you feel better about being so bitter.... more power to you.
so lurker seriously what makes you think the govt will run health care well? honest question plz dont give some smart ass comment.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: BM OUT on July 31, 2009, 07:04:54 AM
The passport office wants to take over healthcare?  Well, that's a new one.

Meanwhile, the writer of this little rant and the cut-n-paster that brought it here only show that they have zero percentage of common sense to apply, in addition to zero understanding of national security and clearance.

I simply can't remember the last time I had to mail in my social security card, drivers license, tax returns, health insurance card or any of the other little bullshit items included here.

But if it makes you feel better about being so bitter.... more power to you.

Hey stupid,THE FUCKING FILTHY GOVERNMENT wants to take over health care.I know you never had to change anything,your a fucking shut in who still lives with his mommy and daddy.

We moved to Indiana.My wife went to change her licence over.She had a certificate from the hospital with her foot prints in it,but it wasn't the original birth certificate.They wouldn't allow her to changer her licence using her out of state licence.She had to have a birth certificate.

To get the birth certificate,what form of ID did she use?Her fucking drivers licence.So,to get her drivers licence she couldn't use her out of state licence,but to get her birth certificate to get the licence she could use her out of state licence.Now,do you see how fucked up the government is?They cant do ANYTHING right.

I know your mommy and daddy take care of that stuff for you,but adults actually have to deal with that crap everyday.

By the way,you seem to not like cutting and pasting UNLESS a fucking lib like 240 does it.Very strange.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 31, 2009, 07:13:53 AM
Your entire little meltdown has absolutely NOTHING to do with the epic wall of bullshit you cut and pasted.

Who cares about your wife's driver's license.  If she (because I know you couldn't) had read the requirements for getting them, then you would have went down with the original birth certificate in the first place. And not some stupid footsie prints.  Or perhaps if the clumsy thing hadn't lost her birth certificate in the first place, she wouldn't have had to run around getting a replacement. 

The original post you copied is talking about a passport.  The crux of that post shows the original little ranter knows absolutely nothing about why the passport process is the way it is.  Or why there are such requirements. 

The entire little post contains gross inaccuracies and blatant lies that no one could ever take it seriously.  Except of course, those who are only looking for a reason to whine.  So... whine on!
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 31, 2009, 07:15:18 AM
so lurker seriously what makes you think the govt will run health care well? honest question plz dont give some smart ass comment.

Who said I did?

My reply here wasn't about healthcare, but about a bullshit poster who couldn't comprehend the nature of passport requirements and regulations.  If you are going to complain and whine at least try to be ACCURATE about it.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: tonymctones on July 31, 2009, 07:19:15 AM
Who said I did?

My reply here wasn't about healthcare, but about a bullshit poster who couldn't comprehend the nature of passport requirements and regulations.  If you are going to complain and whine at least try to be ACCURATE about it.
did you notice the "?" that denotes a question as in I was asking you if you thought the govt would run health care well.

Now please I asked a question VERY NICELY and I expect a respectful answer.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: BM OUT on July 31, 2009, 07:27:38 AM
Your entire little meltdown has absolutely NOTHING to do with the epic wall of bullshit you cut and pasted.

Who cares about your wife's driver's license.  If she (because I know you couldn't) had read the requirements for getting them, then you would have went down with the original birth certificate in the first place. And not some stupid footsie prints.  Or perhaps if the clumsy thing hadn't lost her birth certificate in the first place, she wouldn't have had to run around getting a replacement. 

The original post you copied is talking about a passport.  The crux of that post shows the original little ranter knows absolutely nothing about why the passport process is the way it is.  Or why there are such requirements. 

The entire little post contains gross inaccuracies and blatant lies that no one could ever take it seriously.  Except of course, those who are only looking for a reason to whine.  So... whine on!


You know whats funny,a gutless coward talking about peoples families.aGAIN,A LITTLE PUNK WHO COULDNT FIGHT HIS WAY OUT OF A PAPER BAG acting like a tough guy on the internet.Just to let you know moron,that same thing she brought to the DMV  got her a licence in CT ,as well as in Maine as well as in Texas.Isnt that funny?Just more government bullshit.By the way,she is so clumsy that she probably makes three times what you make in a year and is a big wheel in her company,but a shitty poster,posting on a weight lifting site is much smarter.In fact,you post on a weight lifting site and cant lift shit,look like shit and is little more then a pencil necked geek.

I find it amazing that guy who dosent lift,finds a weight lifting site, to post on politics.Is it because you want people TO THINK you lift?Are you trying to convince people your a big guy?I dont get it.A guy who cant bench his bodyweight posting on a site where lifting is the subject,very strange.Oh well,you keep putting your faith in Obama and the governmeny and when you go home to your parents basement tonight,I will be giggling at you in my gated community.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 31, 2009, 07:35:45 AM

You know whats funny,a gutless coward talking about peoples families.aGAIN,A LITTLE PUNK WHO COULDNT FIGHT HIS WAY OUT OF A PAPER BAG acting like a tough guy on the internet.Just to let you know moron,that same thing she brought to the DMV  got her a licence in CT ,as well as in Maine as well as in Texas.Isnt that funny?Just more government bullshit.By the way,she is so clumsy that she probably makes three times what you make in a year and is a big wheel in her company,but a shitty poster,posting on a weight lifting site is much smarter.In fact,you post on a weight lifting site and cant lift shit,look like shit and is little more then a pencil necked geek.

I find it amazing that guy who dosent lift,finds a weight lifting site, to post on politics.Is it because you want people TO THINK you lift?Are you trying to convince people your a big guy?I dont get it.A guy who cant bench his bodyweight posting on a site where lifting is the subject,very strange.Oh well,you keep putting your faith in Obama and the governmeny and when you go home to your parents basement tonight,I will be giggling at you in my gated community.

*Yawn

The meltdown continues.

So do the assumptions that you know anything about me.  Which only further highlights what a retard you are.  Honestly Billy, you got a one trick pony to fall back on when you get cornered in your bullshit and exposed with your incoherent rants.  And that one trick pony didn't pass the muster the first go around, so what makes you think it will again?  Why cling to a failing idea when it obviously didn't make an impact the last 100 times you tried it?

Now please, continue with the predictable - and boring - little meltdown and trite posts. 
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: BM OUT on July 31, 2009, 07:36:23 AM
You know what else is funny.You NEVER get the point of anything.Here is the point.

You need a birth certificate to get a drivers licence.You cant use only your licence as proof of ID.

However,to get that very same birth certificate THE ONLY form of ID you need is your drivers licence.If you cant see the stupidity in that,then ,sorry,there is no reasoning with you.Your just a dunce.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 31, 2009, 07:40:18 AM
You know what else is funny.You NEVER get the point of anything.Here is the point.

You need a birth certificate to get a drivers licence.You cant use only your licence as proof of ID.

However,to get that very same birth certificate THE ONLY form of ID you need is your drivers licence.If you cant see the stupidity in that,then ,sorry,there is no reasoning with you.Your just a dunce.

GUYS CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG FOR ONCE????

Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 31, 2009, 07:44:05 AM
did you notice the "?" that denotes a question as in I was asking you if you thought the govt would run health care well.

Now please I asked a question VERY NICELY and I expect a respectful answer.

As you may - or may not - be aware, my employer is one of the largest hospitals in South FL with networks everywhere else as well.  So that gives me a bit more insight to this issue than someone else who simply looks for an excuse to rant.

Healthcare for our citizens here can only be a positive thing under the right applications.

That being said to express my view on healthcare, to answer your question on whether the govt could run it well or even correct, I do not believe they can.  I believe that it would be a blanket plan just thrown out there which after the initial process of registration and acceptance would end up being nothing more than a further extension of what most people view as welfare abuse.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 31, 2009, 07:45:41 AM
You know what else is funny.You NEVER get the point of anything.Here is the point.

You need a birth certificate to get a drivers licence.You cant use only your licence as proof of ID.

However,to get that very same birth certificate THE ONLY form of ID you need is your drivers licence.If you cant see the stupidity in that,then ,sorry,there is no reasoning with you.Your just a dunce.

Here is the point. Since apparently you can't grasp it even though you start the thread.

The little whine article you posted is talking about PASSPORTS.  Not driver's license. 

Please try a litttttttlllllleeeee bit harder to stay on topic in the threads you start yourself.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: Kazan on July 31, 2009, 07:50:38 AM
As you may - or may not - be aware, my employer is one of the largest hospitals in South FL with networks everywhere else as well.  So that gives me a bit more insight to this issue than someone else who simply looks for an excuse to rant.

Healthcare for our citizens here can only be a positive thing under the right applications.

That being said to express my view on healthcare, to answer your question on whether the govt could run it well or even correct, I do not believe they can.  I believe that it would be a blanket plan just thrown out there which after the initial process of registration and acceptance would end up being nothing more than a further extension of what most people view as welfare abuse.

You are exactly right.

The whole problem with this idea of government run health care beside the fact that the government for the most part is inept and running anything, is it is unconstitutional. The constitution limits the power of the fed and defers that to the states via the 10th Amendment.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 31, 2009, 07:55:04 AM
You are exactly right.

The whole problem with this idea of government run health care beside the fact that the government for the most part is inept and running anything, is it is unconstitutional. The constitution limits the power of the fed and defers that to the states via the 10th Amendment.

In addition to the many other reasons I am against govt run health care, when the insurance carriers are run out of business and the govt is the only game in town, you lose all choice and are forced to accept what ever crap sandwhich the gov gives you.  There will be no incentive for quality care or good customer service.

The govt is mostly to blame for the price inflation now, let alone what will happen when it is "free".     
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: BM OUT on July 31, 2009, 08:01:01 AM
Here is the point. Since apparently you can't grasp it even though you start the thread.

The little whine article you posted is talking about PASSPORTS.  Not driver's license. 

Please try a litttttttlllllleeeee bit harder to stay on topic in the threads you start yourself.

Amazing!!!The entire posts show the government cant do anything right.Nothing!!

You say you think they can run health care?Medicaid is bankrupt!Medicare is going bankrupt.Social security is on the verge of being bankrupt.The post office needs a bailout.There isnt ONE government agency EVER that hasnt lost MASSIVE amounts of money.How in the world can they handle health care if they cant handle a part of it now in medicaid?

Once again,please name ONE government program that has ever been run well and didnt loose massive amounts of money to waste and corruption.Just one!
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: Sir Humphrey on July 31, 2009, 08:03:46 AM
Amazing!!!The entire posts show the government cant do anything right.Nothing!!

You say you think they can run health care?Medicaid is bankrupt!Medicare is going bankrupt.Social security is on the verge of being bankrupt.The post office needs a bailout.There isnt ONE government agency EVER that hasnt lost MASSIVE amounts of money.How in the world can they handle health care if they cant handle a part of it now in medicaid?

Once again,please name ONE government program that has ever been run well and didnt loose massive amounts of money to waste and corruption.Just one!

How about the invasion liberation of Iraq?  :P
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 31, 2009, 08:09:14 AM
How about the invasion liberation of Iraq?  :P

Failure in terms of costs, projections, injuries, and lives. 

Katrina = failure

stimulus Bill = failure

Cash for Clunkers = failure

Medicare = bankrupt

Medicaid = causing states like NY and CA to go bankrupt

Post Office - loses billions of dollars a year

Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 31, 2009, 08:14:06 AM
Amazing!!!The entire posts show the government cant do anything right.Nothing!!

No, the entire post shows that neither you nor the twit who wrote it knows anything in regards to foreign travel, national security, or identification processes.

But hey, if this govt can't do anything right you are always free to go live up under another one.  Why stick around just to piss and moan?
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: BM OUT on July 31, 2009, 08:33:18 AM
No, the entire post shows that neither you nor the twit who wrote it knows anything in regards to foreign travel, national security, or identification processes.

But hey, if this govt can't do anything right you are always free to go live up under another one.  Why stick around just to piss and moan?

Way to not answer the question.Please name ONE program that the government runs that doesn't loose MASSIVE amounts of money and isn't filled with corruption.

"Pissing and moaning" is what the first amendment allows.Funny,when Bush was in there you didn't call it pissing and moaning,you called it disagreeing.Just another example of your two faced foolishness.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: BM OUT on July 31, 2009, 08:36:17 AM
How about the invasion liberation of Iraq?  :P

Did you see the cost of that?I'm sorry,but I'm not much of a fan of the US sticking their nose into others business to "liberate" them.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 31, 2009, 08:56:56 AM
Way to not answer the question.Please name ONE program that the government runs that doesn't loose MASSIVE amounts of money and isn't filled with corruption.


Why deflect from the topic this thread is about.  This is another FAILING habit of yours.  You get pwned and then try to change the subject.

Instead, why not answer the question WTF the original writer knew about getting a passport when he penned that little cry piece.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: BM OUT on July 31, 2009, 09:24:47 AM
Why deflect from the topic this thread is about.  This is another FAILING habit of yours.  You get pwned and then try to change the subject.

Instead, why not answer the question WTF the original writer knew about getting a passport when he penned that little cry piece.

He gave his experience getting a passport.If the local store has his info,how doesn't the government?Why aren't there data bases updated?Why aren't they as organised as the local corner store.There,does that answer your question.

Now,please name ONE government run program that works.Just one.Here is the prediction.You wont,you will deflect as you always do after getting pwned.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 31, 2009, 09:33:11 AM
Again, the passport office has WHAT need for seeing someone's health insurance card, social security card, driver's license and other bullshit he claimed?

DUH!!!  I guess simpletons can't comprehend things this complicated.
Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: BM OUT on July 31, 2009, 09:43:55 AM
Again, the passport office has WHAT need for seeing someone's health insurance card, social security card, driver's license and other bullshit he claimed?

DUH!!!  I guess simpletons can't comprehend things this complicated.

You have pwned yourself.The post was easily understanble to anyone.You purposely dont understand things.He was saying ALL that info they already have,why isnt it on file.I guess a moron like you just cant comprehend anything.You call Palin dumb,Christ she is light years smarter then you.

Its amazing,you are BY FAR the dumbest guy on here.You NEVER argue or defend your posts with ANY evidence.Once again,have you named the government program that works.The one that gives you hope that they can run health care[THE TITLE OF THE THREAD BY THE WAY].No,of cource not.Why?Because you cant.You spew out stupidity like "I think they can run health care" and give ZERO reasons why,no evidence how,nothing.

Title: Re: these are the guys who want to take over health care
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 31, 2009, 09:52:38 AM
Yeah... the passport office really needs your health insurance on file.   ::)

Reading still isn't your strong point.  But whining and crying obviously is.

You = FAIL