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Homeowner shoots bear invader with shotgun(CO)
Daily Camera ^ | 27 July, 2009 | Laura Snider
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 8:47:05 AM by marktwain
BOULDER, Colo. — It took three rounds from a shotgun, five bullets from a handgun and two shots from a rifle to kill the 120-pound black bear that broke into a Boulder County home early Monday morning.
The bear break-in was the fifth time in a week hungry bears have gotten into Boulder County residences, all while the residents were home. That has wildlife officials urging area residents to take precautions and bear proof their homes.
Brenda Fischer's barking dog woke her at about 2 a.m. Monday morning. When she went upstairs to investigate, she found a bear in the kitchen of her home on Poorman Road, between Sunshine and Fourmile canyons.
Fischer quickly returned downstairs to wake her two children and her husband.
"As soon as I knew there was a bear inside the house, I went to gather up both our weapon and our ammunition, because they are in two different places, and went to place myself with the weapon between the family and the bear," said Paul Fischer, Brenda's husband.
"As soon as I moved to try and make a place for him to get out, he charged me," Fischer continued. "That's when I shot him and he kept charging me. I shot him a second time, and he kept charging me. I shot him a third time and he was finally disoriented enough for me to get away."
The first two rounds from the 12-gauge shotgun were birdshot and the third was rubber bullets, according to a report by the sheriff's office. The Fischers escaped through a bedroom window, leaving the wounded bear inside the house.
When officers arrived on the scene at about 2:30 a.m., they found a bloody bear trying to claw his way through a screen door.
Sheriff's Sgt. Lance Enholm, after determining that the bear was severely injured and would need to be put down, fired his .45-caliber handgun five more times at the animal.
"(The first shot) struck the bear in the head, and it immediately reacted and began flopping around and growling," Enholm wrote in his report. "... I fired another round from my handgun, again striking the bear in the head. This didn't appear to have any impact on the bear, and it kept coming towards me."
It was shot number nine, however, this time from the sergeant's .223-caliber rifle, that finally felled the bear; a final round ended the bear's suffering, according to the police report.
Paul Fischer told officers he was certain the bear, determined to be a juvenile male, was the same one he'd seen on his property several times recently.
State wildlife officials said it's impossible to know, however, if this bear was the same one that broke into three other Boulder County homes in the past week.
"The bears are out right now, and they're looking for food," said Jennifer Churchill, spokeswoman for the Colorado Division of Wildlife. "I had hoped that, with all the wet weather this year, we wouldn't have as many incidents. But I'm told they're kind of between food sources right now."
But even with abundant natural food, high-calorie human food can be irresistible for bears, which eat as many as 20,000 calories a day by late summer and early fall to fatten up for the winter. And once the bears have gotten a hold of a human-made food, they'll keep coming back no matter how many berries are on the bushes.
"Birdseed is often times the first thing that bears get in trouble with," Churchill said, "and that starts the vicious cycle of them getting too comfortable with humans."
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That was one tough bear!
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people sometimes underestimate how many bullets it can take to bring down an amped up wild animal.
now and then you'll find a dead hunter, and an animal a quarter mile away with 4 bullets in its chest, having finally bled out. Adrenaline in animals is crazy. They don't know they're supposed to panic and run when they see a bullet in their belly.
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people sometimes underestimate how many bullets it can take to bring down an amped up wild animal.
now and then you'll find a dead hunter, and an animal a quarter mile away with 4 bullets in its chest, having finally bled out. Adrenaline in animals is crazy. They don't know they're supposed to panic and run when they see a bullet in their belly.
10 shots!
Sounds like I better have my Saiga 12 clips filled with Slugs and 00 Buck.
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On the flip side check this out, sometimes mamals do amazing things
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25856885-401,00.html? (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25856885-401,00.html?)
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That bear would have stood no chance against my sleeper hold.
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That bear would have stood no chance against my sleeper hold.
Who are you Fedor or something?
It looks like Fedor and Palin have something in common.
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If I were truly sadistic I would slap on my figure four and really make him holler while I pulled on the ropes (or drapes) for extra leverage.
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I had a friend who was in the Air Force at a White Alice station during the 70's, and he was told to carry a .357 Magnum around in case of grizzly bear attack. He was told a head shot was the only thing that would save the situation and a jacketed .357 load of the type that can go through a car engine block was the only thing that would go through a bear's skull.
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its all about where you hit them, never been bear hunting but you can hit a deer and if you dont hit an vital organ they can run for freaking ever but you put one shot in the right place heart, lungs etc. they may only make it 10 feet.
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its all about where you hit them, never been bear hunting but you can hit a deer and if you dont hit an vital organ they can run for freaking ever but you put one shot in the right place heart, lungs etc. they may only make it 10 feet.
if youre lucky.
if you're not, you can hit them in the heart and the head and they'll still move 50 feet to gore you before they black out.
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if youre lucky.
if you're not, you can hit them in the heart and the head and they'll still move 50 feet to gore you before they black out.
well LOL around here we hunt deer from stands or hides for the most part, and in general the deer is a decent ways away and if you hit a deer in the heart its going down pretty damn quick like I said maybe 10 feet. If you miss and just wing it like I said they can run for ever. This is pretty bad but I remember one time a guy first time hunting clipped one and it basically took out both front legs I mean mangled them they where basically just hanging on by skin but this thing ran on those nubs for a good 200 yds before bedding down. sorry to the animal lovers I know thats not the best story and its usually not like that.
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WARNING: Deer gets shot so if you dont want to see it dont watch it...
fast forward to the end thats what happens when you make a good shot and hit the heart.
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well LOL around here we hunt deer from stands or hides for the most part, and in general the deer is a decent ways away and if you hit a deer in the heart its going down pretty damn quick like I said maybe 10 feet. If you miss and just wing it like I said they can run for ever. This is pretty bad but I remember one time a guy first time hunting clipped one and it basically took out both front legs I mean mangled them they where basically just hanging on by skin but this thing ran on those nubs for a good 200 yds before bedding down. sorry to the animal lovers I know thats not the best story and its usually not like that.
It is what it is. I used to hunt a lot as a kid. Not so much these days. Not a lot to shoot in Florida and the heat/mosquitoes aren't fun.
Up in OH it was whitetails and black bears. My first bear skin hung on the wall for 10 years. I must have been 10 years old, holding a rifle that weighed half of what I did. Dad and uncle bob always dropped the thing if I didn't.
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You Bastard!!! you killed Bambi! >:(
(http://disney-clipart.com/bambi/jpg/Bambi-Thumper-1.jpg)
btw - Could you make your warning a little more prominent?
I saw it just after I saw the deer fall. It was so shocking I was taken aback. Then I saw the warning. :-\
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WARNING: Deer gets shot so if you dont want to see it dont watch it...
fast forward to the end thats what happens when you make a good shot and hit the heart.
That was insta death.
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It is what it is. I used to hunt a lot as a kid. Not so much these days. Not a lot to shoot in Florida and the heat/mosquitoes aren't fun.
Up in OH it was whitetails and black bears. My first bear skin hung on the wall for 10 years. I must have been 10 years old, holding a rifle that weighed half of what I did. Dad and uncle bob always dropped the thing if I didn't.
I remember the first time I went hunting my friend told me I would get the shakes and my heart would beat fast but i didnt believe him ive been shooting all my life and thats never happend but man when that deer walked out and I saw it my heart started beating hard and my hands where shaking so much i had to take a few deep breaths before i could even try to take a shot.
Then I saw my first buck and goodness gracious talk about your heart racing...
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You Bastard!!! you killed Bambi! >:(
(http://disney-clipart.com/bambi/jpg/Bambi-Thumper-1.jpg)
btw - Could you make your warning a little more prominent?
I saw it just after I saw the deer fall. It was so shocking I was taken aback. Then I saw the warning. :-\
sorry jagalicious i fixed it...trust thats much better then winging the deer and having it run off wounded though.
youve never had venison? thats good meat.
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I remember the first time I went hunting my friend told me I would get the shakes and my heart would beat fast but i didnt believe him ive been shooting all my life and thats never happend but man when that deer walked out and I saw it my heart started beating hard and my hands where shaking so much i had to take a few deep breaths before i could even try to take a shot.
Then I saw my first buck and goodness gracious talk about your heart racing...
I never really knew what was going on. I didn't mind hunting. I was more freaked out by the mice in the camper and crapping in the woods in the middle of the night. I just shot when they told me to. I'd probably be a lot more scared about it today, but back then I knew my dad would finish anything I missed. I was too little to know kill shots, I just shot for center mass and tried not to get knocked over. The 22 was easier to control, but you coulnd't take that out there. ah, good times. i haven't thought about those memories in years. :)
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I remember the first time I went hunting my friend told me I would get the shakes and my heart would beat fast but i didnt believe him ive been shooting all my life and thats never happend but man when that deer walked out and I saw it my heart started beating hard and my hands where shaking so much i had to take a few deep breaths before i could even try to take a shot.
Then I saw my first buck and goodness gracious talk about your heart racing...
Alot of people react like that when they confront a young buck. ;) Take it for what it's worth. :-*
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sorry jagalicious i fixed it...trust thats much better then winging the deer and having it run off wounded though.
youve never had venison? thats good meat.
You know I'm a vegetarian right?
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I never really knew what was going on. I didn't mind hunting. I was more freaked out by the mice in the camper and crapping in the woods in the middle of the night. I just shot when they told me to. I'd probably be a lot more scared about it today, but back then I knew my dad would finish anything I missed. I was too little to know kill shots, I just shot for center mass and tried not to get knocked over. The 22 was easier to control, but you coulnd't take that out there. ah, good times. i haven't thought about those memories in years. :)
LOL im more worried about the spiders in the campers and the cougar that roams around then the mice but I agree mice aint no fun either. One thing I will tell you though hunting really shows you how unsafe some ppl can be around guns.
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Alot of people react like that when they confront a young buck. ;) Take it for what it's worth. :-*
LOL i am a young buck do you get the shakes when you talk to me ;) ;D
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You know I'm a vegetarian right?
Hey, completely off topic (for a BBing board?)
what kind of proteins do you eat, being a vegetarian? eggs/milk allowed?
I've flirted with it several times. Really intrigued by it. I need 3000 cal a day to stay at my weight... Don't know how to get near that, by eating healthy.
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LOL im more worried about the spiders in the campers and the cougar that roams around then the mice but I agree mice aint no fun either. One thing I will tell you though hunting really shows you how unsafe some ppl can be around guns.
I hear ya on that. There is nothing that makes you want to smack someone more than sweeping the hunting party with their barrel. You should be able to leave someone in the woods for that >:(
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You know I'm a vegetarian right?
and no I didnt, I dont know how anybody could be a vegetarian but to each their own...how do you get your protein?
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LOL im more worried about the spiders in the campers and the cougar that roams around then the mice but I agree mice aint no fun either. One thing I will tell you though hunting really shows you how unsafe some ppl can be around guns.
Here's your Posterboy for gun safety...
(http://planetpooks.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/cheney-texas-monthly.jpg)
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I hear ya on that. There is nothing that makes you want to smack someone more than sweeping the hunting party with their barrel. You should be able to leave someone in the woods for that >:(
no shit or having your rifle loaded while in the truck or not unloading after a hunt. Theres no reason to walk around with a loaded rifle when youre not intent on using it just pointless. Id have to say though the most agregious is the sweeping of your buddies while the gun is loaded I mean thats just plain common sense and easy as shit to remember and fix.
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and no I didnt, I dont know how anybody could be a vegetarian but to each their own...how do you get your protein?
Broccolli, Acai, and quite a number of other sources that are highly bio-available to the human organism.
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Here's your Posterboy for gun safety...
(http://planetpooks.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/cheney-texas-monthly.jpg)
ehhh bird hunting is alot different jag if youve never done it I can understand how idiotic that sounds but honestly its suprisingly easy if youre not very aware or you get spooked. It seems like common sense that you dont rear end the person in front of you with your car but that happens every day all over the world.
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Broccolli, Acai, and quite a number of other sources that are highly bio-available to the human organism.
broccolli? how much protein do you get a day? do you never eat animals like even when you go out? I bet that can be pretty tough to eat out.
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ehhh bird hunting is alot different jag if youve never done it I can understand how idiotic that sounds but honestly its suprisingly easy if youre not very aware or you get spooked. It seems like common sense that you dont rear end the person in front of you with your car but that happens every day all over the world.
I don't care if you're quail hunting, or stag hunting, ...the #1 rule should be "Don't shoot your buddy in the face!" :P
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I don't care if you're quail hunting, or stag hunting, ...the #1 rule should be "Don't shoot your buddy in the face!" :P
LOL no doubt I dont think you can say you had a good trip if you shoot someone while hunting :D but like I said if youve never done it you wouldnt understand how easy something like this can happen especially bird hunting.
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broccolli? how much protein do you get a day? do you never eat animals like even when you go out? I bet that can be pretty tough to eat out.
I get enough protein. It depends on where I am, I've found for the most part finding suitable menu choices isn't a problem. Of course, I'm not about to go to Black Angus steak house or some place similar.
It's only tough when dining with inconsiderate or ignorant people who have no idea how disgusting it is for a vegetarian to be seated with someone eating meat. It's not always bad, ...a steak isn't bad, ...but ribs...egads!
It's hard to tell them, I don't want to eat with you because just the sight of you eating totally grosses me out.
Why should my meal be ruined by having to watch you eat yours? I might toss my cookies right onto your plate.
Then that's BOTH of our meals ruined now isn't it? Rather than simply accept facts, ...most people get really offended when you tell them their choice of food makes you nauseous and prone to hurl, ...as if it's somehow a personal attack on them, rather than simply a statement of fact.
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LOL no doubt I dont think you can say you had a good trip if you shoot someone while hunting :D but like I said if youve never done it you wouldnt understand how easy something like this can happen especially bird hunting with Darth Vader.
Fixed. It wouldn't surprise me if the shooting victim had been in opposition to some initiative Cheney supported.
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I get enough protein. It depends on where I am, I've found for the most part finding suitable menu choices isn't a problem. Of course, I'm not about to go to Black Angus steak house or some place similar.
It's only tough when dining with inconsiderate or ignorant people who have no idea how disgusting it is for a vegetarian to be seated with someone eating meat. It's not always bad, ...a steak isn't bad, ...but ribs...egads!
It's hard to tell them, I don't want to eat with you because just the sight of you eating totally grosses me out.
Why should my meal be ruined by having to watch you eat yours? I might toss my cookies right onto your plate.
Then that's BOTH of our meals ruined now isn't it? Rather than simply accept facts, ...most people get really offended when you tell them their choice of food makes you nauseous and prone to hurl, ...as if it's somehow a personal attack on them, rather than simply a statement of fact.
Ive never thought of it like that I would probably take offense to that as well I mean I understand where youre coming from but I mean it doesnt really bother me you dont eat meat so why should it bother you I eat meat? but I kinda get it i cant stand milk and when ppl drink it, it grosses me out.
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Ive never thought of it like that I would probably take offense to that as well I mean I understand where youre coming from but I mean it doesnt really bother me you dont eat meat so why should it bother you I eat meat? but I kinda get it i cant stand milk and when ppl drink it, it grosses me out.
It's even worse than merely watching them eat, ...it's sometimes even having to smell them as well.
It you don't eat meat, ...you're extremely sensitive to it's scent. You know how some people say they don't like being around some South Asians because they smell like curry, or some Mediterraneans because they smell like garlic?
Well guess what? ...meat eaters give off a smell too, ...and it's worse than curry or garlic. They smell like a barn.
Have you ever been inside a barn. It's quite a lovely odour isn't it? Most people don't notice it, because they're giving off their own barnyard aroma as well, ...but a vegetarian notices it. It's really very revolting, but it's not the kind of thing you can tell someone without causing tremendous offense, ...no matter how delicately you try to put it. :-\
I don't have a problem with people choosing to eat meat. It's a free world and they're entitled to eat whatever they want, so I'm not about to tell someone they can't eat meat. But when I have a physically nauseaus reaction to the sight of them stabbing away at animal flesh, I think I'm perfectly within my rights to not want to put myself in a position of having to view it.
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It's even worse than merely watching them eat, ...it's sometimes even having to smell them as well.
It you don't eat meat, ...you're extremely sensitive to it's scent. You know how some people say they don't like being around some South Asians because they smell like curry, or some Mediterraneans because they smell like garlic?
Well guess what? ...meat eaters give off a smell too, ...and it's worse than curry or garlic. They smell like a barn.
Have you ever been inside a barn. It's quite a lovely odour isn't it? Most people don't notice it, because they're giving off their own barnyard aroma as well, ...but a vegetarian notices it. It's really very revolting, but it's not the kind of thing you can tell someone without causing tremendous offense, ...no matter how delicately you try to put it. :-\
hahaha another good point, I actually love curry but I understand some ppl dont like the smell. Ive been in a barn and I dont think that a steak or ribs smell like a barn at all but I get your point about the meat smell. Iono if they take offense they take offense if you explained it to them like you did me then they have a problem if they still get offended by it.
I just think that would be rough on a social life maybe its b/c where im from its meat and potatos kinda of culture down here for the most part.
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hahaha another good point, I actually love curry but I understand some ppl dont like the smell. Ive been in a barn and I dont think that a steak or ribs smell like a barn at all but I get your point about the meat smell. Iono if they take offense they take offense if you explained it to them like you did me then they have a problem if they still get offended by it.
I've gotten to the point where I don't bother explaining it anymore. I just say I'm not hungry and beg off dining with them. There's no point in people feeling badly about themselves or their food choices. It is what it is. It's not often a problem, ...but there are some people who choose some of the grossest looking things. seriously! There's one guy... I swear if it makes me wanna hurl... he'll pile it on his plate! :-X When I was down in Florida, he kept inviting me to dinner. I just didn't know how to say you're going to make me barf. I avoided his dinner invitation for close to a week. Finally the last night, I joined him for dinner. Needless to say, I didn't enjoy my meal, ...could barely finish it, ...and barely managed to get through it without hurling. How are you going to tell someone that without them taking personal offense? :-\
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I just think that would be rough on a social life maybe its b/c where im from its meat and potatos kinda of culture down here for the most part.
Hahaha... seriously... do I look like the kind of gal to even consider dating a neanderthaal from TX? ;D j/k ;)
No, it's hardly an issue at all. Toronto is such a poly glot of multiple cultures, finding suitable food choices isn't difficult. California cuisine isn't a problem either. The only time I've had real difficulty was in Chicago. It seemed like everything had to come covered in a mountain of cheese. Although there was a fabulous restaurant called Tucci Milan which specialized in Northern Italian cuisine. I wonder if they're still around? Not a bad place.
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I've gotten to the point where I don't bother explaining it anymore. I just say I'm not hungry and beg off dining with them. There's no point in people feeling badly about themselves or their food choices. It is what it is. It's not often a problem, ...but there are some people who choose some of the grossest looking things. seriously! There's one guy... I swear if it makes me wanna hurl... he'll pile it on his plate! :-X When I was down in Florida, he kept inviting me to dinner. I just didn't know how to say you're going to make me barf. I avoided his dinner invitation for close to a week. Finally the last night, I joined him for dinner. Needless to say, I didn't enjoy my meal, ...could barely finish it, ...and barely managed to get through it without hurling. How are you going to tell someone that without them taking personal offense? :-\
Iono like I said if you explain it to them like you did me then I think they would be ok with it but if you just tell them thats going to make me hurl and not explain why ;D haha i could see them taking offense to it. I guess its easier to understand b/c like I said i have things that make my skin crawl as well. I swear when I see ppl drink milk and they put the glass down and there is that film clinging to the side of the glass that slowly slides down I feel like i want to hurl as well. Just thinking about the taste and consistency is horrible makes my mouth water in a bad way. GROSSSSS
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Hahaha... seriously... do I look like the kind of gal to even consider dating a neanderthaal from TX? ;D j/k ;)
No, it's hardly an issue at all. Toronto is such a poly glot of multiple cultures, finding suitable food choices isn't difficult. California cuisine isn't a problem either. The only time I've had real difficulty was in Chicago. It seemed like everything had to come covered in a mountain of cheese. Although there was a fabulous restaurant called Tucci Milan which specialized in Northern Italian cuisine. I wonder if they're still around? Not a bad place.
LOL youve never posted a pic so I couldnt say, and youd be suprised how attractive a neanderthal can be ;) ;D
I hated chicago when I was there, iono maybe b/c i didnt stay in the best part of town.
so do you not eat any meat like no fish either?
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Iono like I said if you explain it to them like you did me then I think they would be ok with it but if you just tell them thats going to make me hurl and not explain why ;D haha i could see them taking offense to it. I guess its easier to understand b/c like I said i have things that make my skin crawl as well. I swear when I see ppl drink milk and they put the glass down and there is that film clinging to the side of the glass that slowly slides down I feel like i want to hurl as well. Just thinking about the taste and consistency is horrible makes my mouth water in a bad way. GROSSSSS
Sounds like you and jag have some personal problems. Seeing milk grosses you out? Jag, seeing people eat meat makes you want to throw up? Have you two considered counseling/therapy?
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LOL youve never posted a pic so I couldnt say, and youd be suprised how attractive a neanderthal can be ;) ;D
I hated chicago when I was there, iono maybe b/c i didnt stay in the best part of town.
so do you not eat any meat like no fish either?
I occasionally will eat fish, sometimes even eggs, ...but red meats or organ meats... heck no :-X
And I definitely prefer the fish, not looking like fish. If I have to stare at eyeballs, forget it, ...I'm done!
I have a Scottish girlfriend who uses haggis as part of her email addy, ...and I feel like hurling everytime I send her an email. Her addy is listed under her name, so I won't have to see the actual eDress at all. My tummy is feeling queasy right now just thinking about haggis.
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Sounds like you and jag have some personal problems. Seeing milk grosses you out? Jag, seeing people eat meat makes you want to throw up? Have you two considered counseling/therapy?
{giggle} Pretty funny isn't it? I can sit in McD's and watch people eat Big Macs all day... no biggie,
...but when I see someone pile ribs up on their plate, I'm ready to toss my cookies. There's no mistaking that is animal flesh, and seeing them rip the flesh off the bones... and smelling the odor... we're talking projectile vomit! Maybe I've spent too much time around chop sticks, ...but when I see forks and steak knives stabbing & carving away at bloody oozing animal flesh, ...to me, it's just nasty, and downright barbaric. :-X
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Sounds like you and jag have some personal problems. Seeing milk grosses you out? Jag, seeing people eat meat makes you want to throw up? Have you two considered counseling/therapy?
LOL milk is freaking nasty bro especially vitamin D milk thats real thick fuking gross...
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milk is like titty snot
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{giggle} Pretty funny isn't it? I can sit in McD's and watch people eat Big Macs all day... no biggie,
...but when I see someone pile ribs up on their plate, I'm ready to toss my cookies. There's no mistaking that is animal flesh, and seeing them rip the flesh off the bones... and smelling the odor... we're talking projectile vomit! Maybe I've spent too much time around chop sticks, ...but when I see forks and steak knives stabbing & carving away at bloody oozing animal flesh, ...to me, it's just nasty, and downright barbaric. :-X
hmmm sounds like a good steak to me....
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the shotgun just served to piss it off. Not doing anything with bird shot and rubber bullets. Also another reason to NOT keep ammo and guns seperate. I have all my weaposn loaded and with one in the chamber.
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the shotgun just served to piss it off. Not doing anything with bird shot and rubber bullets. Also another reason to NOT keep ammo and guns seperate. I have all my weaposn loaded and with one in the chamber.
I think this bear probably needed a few slugs in its head.
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I think this bear probably needed a few slugs in its head.
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