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Title: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: INSOMNIA on August 05, 2009, 01:59:18 PM


 :o
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: 240 is Back on August 05, 2009, 02:03:08 PM
move it to the political board, hippie!
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on August 05, 2009, 02:05:26 PM
WTF  ???
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: INSOMNIA on August 05, 2009, 02:05:58 PM
OKAY, RIGHT!!!!! Lets move this thread but keep all the "would you hit it" threads.   ::) Jesus Christ!@  f*cking lame. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: lax on August 05, 2009, 02:07:22 PM
OKAY, RIGHT!!!!! Lets move this thread but keep all the "would you hit it" threads.   ::) Jesus Christ!@  f*cking lame. >:( >:( >:( >:(

Lib

boo hoo hoo
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: INSOMNIA on August 05, 2009, 02:07:50 PM
OKAY, RIGHT!!!!! Lets move this thread but keep all the "would you hit it" threads.   ::) Jesus Christ!@  f*cking lame. >:( >:( >:( >:(

MELTDOWN
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: 240 is Back on August 05, 2009, 02:08:23 PM
OKAY, RIGHT!!!!! Lets move this thread but keep all the "would you hit it" threads.   ::) Jesus Christ!@  f*cking lame. >:( >:( >:( >:(

:)

I was just playing with ya.  it's nice to see Gb regulars taking interest in all things politics!
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 05, 2009, 02:10:30 PM
And how will the Obamanator's defend this one?  Because under Bush, EVERY federal action was directly his fault.....right?
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: lax on August 05, 2009, 02:36:35 PM
And how will the Obamanator's defend this one?  Because under Bush, EVERY federal action was directly his fault.....right?

they STILL blame/talk about bush

may as well bring up how Chester Arthur fucked up in his administration

libs
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: 240 is Back on August 05, 2009, 02:39:01 PM
Obama's response to your question lacks substance, but carries a whole lotta style!
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: lax on August 05, 2009, 02:40:51 PM
Obama's response to your question lacks substance, but carries a whole lotta style!

you sir are correct

chock full of symbolism

devoid of structure
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: ironneck on August 05, 2009, 02:42:27 PM
oh ladidadida ladies und gentlemen,wenn ihr mich noch nicht kennt könnt ihr mich jetzt kennenlern'
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 05, 2009, 02:48:02 PM
i'm assisting my nephew purchasing a car.  with the incentive $4,500. back, he's getting a new 2010 korean hyandai for $5,500. 
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on August 05, 2009, 03:14:13 PM
Lib

boo hoo hoo

"Lib".... I think Rhonda is quite the opposite?  That's why I like her!  Not to mention her sexy attitude!
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on August 05, 2009, 03:17:50 PM
Here's Obama's headshot......  "The Joker".....
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on August 05, 2009, 04:45:18 PM
I agree,
"Lib".... I think Rhonda is quite the opposite?  That's why I like her!  Not to mention her sexy attitude!

I agree, I also volunteer to be her "man slave" whenever she's ready to take me on!
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: jpm101 on August 05, 2009, 04:57:11 PM
Should not that be "Cash For A Clunker"? The prezz being the clunker. The cash being in the form of the overwhelming taxes he is going to raise on just about everyone. He's going to give us change alright. That's the only thing we will have after taxes, a little loose change in out pockets.

Now I know what Insomnia looks like. Well worth the wait.
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: webcake on August 05, 2009, 05:15:28 PM
I like it when she's angry.....
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: INSOMNIA on August 05, 2009, 10:28:26 PM
"Lib".... I think Rhonda is quite the opposite?  That's why I like her!  Not to mention her sexy attitude!

thank you!!! how u been, stranger??  :-*
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: INSOMNIA on August 05, 2009, 10:29:04 PM
I agree,
I agree, I also volunteer to be her "man slave" whenever she's ready to take me on!

WOW! I'll make a note of that  8)
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: INSOMNIA on August 05, 2009, 10:30:25 PM
Should not that be "Cash For A Clunker"? The prezz being the clunker. The cash being in the form of the overwhelming taxes he is going to raise on just about everyone. He's going to give us change alright. That's the only thing we will have after taxes, a little loose change in out pockets.

Now I know what Insomnia looks like. Well worth the wait.

the wait ???
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2009, 06:35:41 AM
move it to the political board, hippie!


240 - why dont you respond tot he facts brought out in that clip as opposed to the usual spin?
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: 240 is Back on August 06, 2009, 07:14:32 AM
240 - why dont you respond tot he facts brought out in that clip as opposed to the usual spin?

I've already said the program is flawed.  I mean, I can give you a handjob with it.  I don't know what else you want here. 

Do you want me to again say it sucks?
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Hedgehog on August 06, 2009, 07:19:55 AM
I've already said the program is flawed.  I mean, I can give you a handjob with it.  I don't know what else you want here. 

Do you want me to again say it sucks?

What is flawed with it?
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2009, 07:25:15 AM
What is flawed with it?

"Broken Window Fallacy" is the problem.

Hedge look up Henry Hazlitt or Bastiat and their discussion about the problems with this type of plan.   
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Montague on August 07, 2009, 05:23:41 PM
Here's Obama's headshot......  "The Joker".....

Grant,
You made some really good and informative posts about South Africa a month or so ago.

Unfortunately, the threads that contained them were deleted.
Have you posted that information anywhere else?
I’d like to look at it again.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on August 07, 2009, 05:41:23 PM
Grant,
You made some really good and informative posts about South Africa a month or so ago.

Unfortunately, the threads that contained them were deleted.
Have you posted that information anywhere else?
I’d like to look at it again.

Thanks.

I'm can't remember what those exact posts contained?  But I do know they were factual.

If the moderators here deleted them... then it seems we are no longer welcome here....?

Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 07, 2009, 05:52:46 PM
my nephew is turning in his clunker and i'm giving him a little dough to help with the upgrade
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Montague on August 07, 2009, 05:54:24 PM
I'm can't remember what those exact posts contained?  But I do know they were factual.

If the moderators here deleted them... then it seems we are no longer welcome here....?

I, too, wish I could recall more specifics, but I suppose that’s why I’d like to reread them.
I may be mistaken, but I thought that they were posted on the G&O.

Anyway, I do remember that it was an excellent expose from a man who’s been there, and I kept thinking to myself, “Right, someone’s gonna delete this.”

It’s not always nice being right. ;D

There are people here who will march to the death to defend your freedom of speech until you say something that pisses them off.

Most often it's something that's true and they can't dispute and/or defend it.
That's why they don't want you mentioning it.

Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on August 07, 2009, 07:05:03 PM
Well, maybe the interesting thing would be to ask the moderators here WHY they deleted my posts?

Ron?  Hugo Chavez?  Beachbum?  OzmO?????

Let's see their reasoning to delete my factual posts from a place where I lived?

Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 07, 2009, 07:54:26 PM
Well, maybe the interesting thing would be to ask the moderators here WHY they deleted my posts?

Ron?  Hugo Chavez?  Beachbum?  OzmO?????

Let's see their reasoning to delete my factual posts from a place where I lived?

They must know that they lose forum support when they take this approach???
when you post using a gimmick, do those posts also get shitcanned?
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on August 07, 2009, 09:46:58 PM
I have never posted under a gimmick ever!!!  The posts that were deleted were under my own name and face (see avatar).
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 07, 2009, 10:16:35 PM
Cash for Clunkers

Things sure have changed in the US. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.


Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: 240 is Back on August 07, 2009, 11:17:56 PM
What is flawed with it?

too much damn $.

Should be more like 2000 or 2500.  You can buy a VERY nice vehicle for $4500.  being bale to turn in a 1990 minivan with 300k miles on it and a bad tranny is too good to be true.
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: astro on August 08, 2009, 12:03:30 AM
does one have to be a u.s citizen?
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 08, 2009, 04:16:23 AM
does one have to be a u.s citizen?
as i understand it the vehicle title has had to have been in your name for 1 year.  that's the sole requirement.
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: astro on August 08, 2009, 11:17:50 AM
interesting
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 08, 2009, 12:11:26 PM
Example taken from Don Harrold with lower figures.

Initial clunker (car) cost on average = $20,000. (being generous)
Interest, Tax, title, liscence, other = around $2400 (being generous)
 
Total COST= around $22,400

Money for "Clunker" = $4500 (credit)

Total COST= $17,900

New car= $20,000 (average)
Interest, Tax, title, liscence, other = around $2400 (being generous)
Total DEBT for new car= $22,400

Drive new car off lot and now it's only worth $11,000. You just went into immediate debt for $11,000 just by driving off the lot.  Plus all the money you spent on your initial clunker and the new spending/debt total is $28,900.  Total cost of the new vehicle plus cost of old vehicle = $40,300

So on average a person spent almost $40,000 of their hard earned dollars to help an overseas economy that sells the car parts to Americans. The banks make money. The tax payer pays for the program. There is no credit to the public only more public debt.
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: 2ND COMING on August 08, 2009, 12:21:18 PM
Example taken from Don Harrold with lower figures.

Initial clunker (car) cost on average = $20,000. (being generous)
Interest, Tax, title, liscence, other = around $2400 (being generous)



hahahah thanks for the laugh
Title: Re: Cash for Clunkers program
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 08, 2009, 12:22:34 PM
hahahah thanks for the laugh

what's so funny?