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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: gh15 on August 10, 2009, 01:28:44 AM
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What is your opinion of William Llewellyn and the threats he's getting from Alin and Balkan Pharmaceuticals regarding his upcoming book? Is Llewellyn credible and is his lab testing and reporting up and up?
ofcourse he is credible,,william is angel of hormones and so is dutchbb ronny both have done MAJOR ENORMOUS CONTRIBUTION TO THE BODYBUILDING IN THE INTERNET ERA ,,WILLIAM BY HIMSELF OPENED THE EYES OF MANY TO HORMONES IN DETAILS AND VERY SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND EXPLANATIONS,,
HE IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPEL IN THE HISTORY OF INTERNET BODYBUILDING,,BOTH IF THEM ARE
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Does Lady Gaga have a cute Nasser-type wang?
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What is a good dosage for test enanthate and tren enanthate for a 5'8 200lb lean bodybuilder? For the test i'll be using 750mg-1g but where should I dose the tren is accordance to the test dosage?
750 mg testosterone and 400-600mg tren should do the trickj ,,,even though i have noticed new fellas grow on minimal doses of tren even 75mg every second or third day ! enantat put in 400 to 600 a week
id always use tren ace not enantat but thats a choice you cant make sometime
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Gh15, people trust you.
please make at least one thread in which you state that pct is pure and utter bullshit.
it has only been around since the days of bb forums on the internet. people taking womens medicine against breast cancer etc is just wrong! yet they believe this nonsense!
grüße aus münchen
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correct,,there are very few really feminine males that already have very low test from before hand that can benefit some from those drugs but majority of males as in over 95% do not need pct
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gh15,
when is the best time of the day to take your t3 and does it matter spliting the dosages?
thanks... 8)
with clenbuterol or ephedribe together first dose mid day second dose later in evening ,,third dose if needed before bed time,,most will do good with 2 devided doses,,you can absolutely eat whatever you want on t3 if its real ,,i
m talkim about greasy mcdonalds and dognuts ,,,add gh and you can eat anything period
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WTF dude, you trying to get your "threads started" count up?
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750 mg testosterone and 400-600mg tren should do the trickj ,,,even though i have noticed new fellas grow on minimal doses of tren even 75mg every second or third day ! enantat put in 400 to 600 a week
id always use tren ace not enantat but thats a choice you cant make sometime
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Thanks gh. I'm gonna go with tren ace instead of enanthate. What's the longest you would reccomend staying on tren for one cycle? I'm gonna be on test for awhile and add and take out other drugs.
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Dear God,
Can you tell us what products and at what doses Dennis James was maybe using for his win at the Tampa Pro on Saturday??? He looked marvelous!!
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Thanks gh. I'm gonna go with tren ace instead of enanthate. What's the longest you would reccomend staying on tren for one cycle? I'm gonna be on test for awhile and add and take out other drugs.
as much as you want ... cause getbiggers still didnt find a written proof that it is toxic ... ;D ;D ;D
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as much as you want ... cause getbiggers still didnt find a written proof that it is toxic ... ;D ;D ;D
once again ali showing his stupidity. go back and re-read the comments nitwit.
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Thanks gh. I'm gonna go with tren ace instead of enanthate. What's the longest you would reccomend staying on tren for one cycle? I'm gonna be on test for awhile and add and take out other drugs.
eaisily 12 weeks of use up tp 75-100 mg every day or every second ,,the problem with tren ace happen more when you combine it with alcholol and pain killers at high doses,,the doses you do wont do nothing ,,
again if you take tren ace at 200mg a day for 6 months expect problems it just wasnt meant to be abused ,,the aliamini genious like to twist my word,,same as when i said you gain 20 lb on dianabol of MUSCLE MASS that includ ewater weight in 3 weeks he made it sound i meant lean muscle,,
a jokster im tellin you ,,those arab fellas are jokster,,
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as much as you want ... cause getbiggers still didnt find a written proof that it is toxic ... ;D ;D ;D
No one said that. What's wrong with asking for more information?
How many people still think dbol is wrecking their kidneys because their lower back hurts on it?
Same kinda thing.
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eaisily 12 weeks of use up tp 75-100 mg every day or every second ,,the problem with tren ace happen more when you combine it with alcholol and pain killers at high doses,,the doses you do wont do nothing ,,
again if you take tren ace at 200mg a day for 6 months expect problems it just wasnt meant to be abused ,,the aliamini genious like to twist my word,,same as when i said you gain 20 lb on dianabol of MUSCLE MASS that includ ewater weight in 3 weeks he made it sound i meant lean muscle,,
a jokster im tellin you ,,those arab fellas are jokster,,
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When I did my first test/d-bol cycle I gained as much as you said a person would from it, so what can I expect from 750mg test and 300mg tren ace? I'm very serious about bodybuilding and I drink alcohol maybe twice a year and never have a casual drink etc... so that's not a problem.
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i thought ghfideen had died.
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No one said that. What's wrong with asking for more information?
How many people still think dbol is wrecking their kidneys because their lower back hurts on it?
Same kinda thing.
regular people might mistake back pain with kidney pain … which is usually due to muscles, ligaments, or vertebrae and disks in the spinal column … the actual kidney pain is felt in the Flank area … which is in the back … at the lower edge of the ribs on either side of the spine … the pain occurs when the kidney swells and enlarges hence stretching the pain sensitive capsule or thin covering around it
the pain i mentioned about tren does occurs and if u want to make sure of that ... give it a try by using tren and not drinking enough water and u will c how u will feel ... this is not to act stupidly ... but to get a feeling of what actually occurs in the kidney over a long period time of using tren ...
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the pain i mentioned about tren does occurs and if u want to make sure of that ... give it a try by using tren and not drinking enough water and u will c how u will feel ... this is not to act stupidly ... but to get a feeling of what actually occurs in the kidney over a long period time of using tren ...
Alright. But it's not the trenbolone itself that is toxic, right? You talked about "excipients" in the Finaplix and all of the UG tren causing it. The original Negma Parabolan would not have caused any kidney issues IYO?
IMO, if tren is indeed kidney toxic, making you piss blood after only a few weeks of use, it should never be used, even for short cycles.
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tren has the same "time limit" as any other injectable steroid.
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WTF dude, you trying to get your "threads started" count up?
how about GH can start as many threads as he sees fit..............and instead.............you go away..........your a gimmick and a troll, and no one here likes you.
in fact, everyone wishes you were dead.
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the only way tren effects the kidneys is through its ability to raise blood pressure to significant levels.. this in turn has a very negative effect on kidney function over time.. that being said, tren should not be run at 600 mgs a week.. wow.. that is very high for a compound that is 4-5 times more anabolic and androgenic than test.. that being said, at low dosages (150-250mgs) is more than enough especially combined with other androgenic gear.. tren also does not promote water retention, dht or estro conversion making it fairly safe at low dosages..
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tren has the same "time limit" as any other injectable steroid.
carboxylic acid (esters) determine "time limits" if we are talking release and longevity here...
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carboxylic acid (esters) determine "time limits" if we are talking release and longevity here...
not what was being talked about
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the only way tren effects the kidneys is through its ability to raise blood pressure to significant levels.. this in turn has a very negative effect on kidney function over time..
That's been my thought as well as one possible reason if it causes kidney stress. I asked Llewellyn too and mentioned that:
http://www.bodyofscience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5918
But aliamini claims to know that there's "something" in all current tren products that causes kidney toxicity.
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not what was being talked about
I had a feeling it wasn't...
Sometimes I just have a tendency to "chime in" without even reading the OP. You think anyone else ever does that?
Yeehaw. Kiss grandma.
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yeah van i agree.. i have seen no real evidence that tren is causing kidney distress in of itself.. (bp issues aside).. people point out that they feel back pain and tightness on tren.. they also feel this with dbol and various other compounds.. i can say with personal experience that any compound that is highly anabolic and androgenic does give wicked low back pumps.. just bending over to vaccum will bring forth a great pump.. but that hardly constitutes kidney stress.. live would be more effected than the kidneys and we dont see liver numbers going off the charts using reasonable tren dosages..
now alimani could be right in regards to using the pellets.. it is speculative at best but the glues and adhesives used in the manufacture of the pellets could pose a issue since there is really no way of getting rid of all binders in the conversion process..since no one that i have heard of is using pellets anymore it is highly unlikely.. when you look at the current list of manufactures producing the tren products they are using manufactured powders.
the powders are very easy to obtain and much easier to obtain anymore than the pellets which are very regulated especially here in the states.. if one can get test, deca ect powders it is just as easy to obtain tren powder from the same dist since it is offered as freely as the previously mentioned compounds..
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now alimani could be right in regards to using the pellets.. it is speculative at best but the glues and adhesives used in the manufacture of the pellets could pose a issue since there is really no way of getting rid of all binders in the conversion process..since no one that i have heard of is using pellets anymore it is highly unlikely.. when you look at the current list of manufactures producing the tren products they are using manufactured powders.
the powders are very easy to obtain and much easier to obtain anymore than the pellets which are very regulated especially here in the states.. if one can get test, deca ect powders it is just as easy to obtain tren powder from the same dist since it is offered as freely as the previously mentioned compounds..
In a previous thread aliamini claimed all tren on the market is from pellets and/or contain the same "sediments" as the pellets. ???
the price of it these days indicates how it is made … as it is price is very close to test … where the process of making it is costs much more … it is not as cheap as Test or Deca … but the price indicates that every one is using the pellet dissolving protocol …
Even though tren is very similar to nandrolone … it is not made is the same process as nandrolone is driveded from Test (other wise it would have cost 4 times more than Test) … the sediments in the solution is what actually pases the kidney … and as I told u b4 …
He didn't have an answer as to what this toxic sediment is.
There isn't any pure trenbolone made and used by any UG lab. It all contains toxic sediments.
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LOL.. WHERE LET ME TELL WHERE THIS IS WRONG.. anyone who has made tren from pellets will tell ya that there is a very heavy sediment of glue and binders that falls to the bottom of the vials before they are filtered.. this stuff actually will solidify at the bottom if left long enough and is very, very obvious.. now fast forward to anyone who has made tren from pharm powders will tell ya that the sediment does not exist in the vial but any impurities (which all powders have) will be caught in the filtering process..
also.. why would these "sediments" be in the pharm powders?.. the sediments from the pellets are from binders and glues that keep the powder in pellet form.. this is not needed when pharm powder is being used.. there is nothing to bind.. it is pure powder.. a person could technically put the powder in a vial of oil and see it disperse.. the only debris will be in the filter when filtering is done.. now put the pellets in warm oil and see the pellet come apart and see the sediment left at the bottom of the vial.. so.... ::)
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I didn’t say "Toxic Sediments" I said "Sediments that are toxic" … not seeing the sediments doesn’t mean they don’t exist … even with the powder getting dissolved completely as you see it there are still traces of sediments … and I believe that is what causes the kidney problem …
When u don’t c the blood in ur urine it doesn’t mean it is not there as via a test u can notice blood cells in the urine … it becomes visible only at extreme conditions … u wont find what supports this on a paper … not will u find how drugs are used in bbing … but what I am telling u is what bbers face … a lot of bbers had the blood in the urine problem and it was due to that … even though test and deca also come in powder form … they don’t cause that problem … could be due to the mismatch of the component with the oil or different reaction within the body … but as far as tren effecting the kidney it is true (even though everyone has his own theories due to y) & as I mentioned in the previous post how u can make know … and if u ever as a hi rank bber or a real bber who have ben using it for a long time he will testify to that
as far as pelletes ... it is still used like that in a lot of teh US brands ... easier, safer & cheaper + it is legal at its early stages (when buying it) ... powder can be obtained from china easily but purity again is another issue
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I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.. but, the sediments are filtered out in the filtering process.. anyone who has made their test cyp will tell ya that it also contains sediments that need to be filtered using a easy to get whatman filter.. the pellets on the other hand, drop their glues and binders to the floor of the vial.. big difference.. as for ug labs still using pellets.. they arent herein the states.. pellets are highly regulated now.. i know quite a few ug labs in the uk also and they use pharm powder tren not pellets.. i think pellets , for the most part, are a thing of the past..
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Dear god of hormones
I'm about to do a cycle with these substances: parabolan, boldenone, masteron, sustanon and ephedrine.
I'm 220 lbs with about 18 % body fat. I'm 6 ft tall. I wanna to get leaner and shreded.
What would be effective doses for me and how long should the cycle be. I was thinking of doing a 12 week cycle, so I would like to know how much of each substance do I need for getting the best result out of it.
Right now I have 1 multidose vial (10 ml) of Parabolan, 1 multidose vial (10 ml) of Masteron, 1 multidose vial (10 ml) of Boldenone, 40 tablets of ephedrine, 40 tablets of coffeine and 20 ampules of Sustanon.
How would you recomend using the above sustances and how long.
I'm thanful for the answer and It's going to be a lot of help for me. Thanx and much appreciated.
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Dear god of hormones
I'm about to do a cycle with these substances: parabolan, boldenone, masteron, sustanon and ephedrine.
I'm 220 lbs with about 18 % body fat. I'm 6 ft tall. I wanna to get leaner and shreded.
What would be effective doses for me and how long should the cycle be. I was thinking of doing a 12 week cycle, so I would like to know how much of each substance do I need for getting the best result out of it.
Right now I have 1 multidose vial (10 ml) of Parabolan, 1 multidose vial (10 ml) of Masteron, 1 multidose vial (10 ml) of Boldenone, 40 tablets of ephedrine, 40 tablets of coffeine and 20 ampules of Sustanon.
How would you recomend using the above sustances and how long.
I'm thanful for the answer and It's going to be a lot of help for me. Thanx and much appreciated.
Honestly, 400mg of test each week is all you need to cut at this point. Nitrogen retention will be sufficient to retain lean body mass. At those stats, you're just fat. You can use no gear and safely, easily diet to 12% with a caloric reduction and two bouts of low intensity cardio each week.
Save the rest of the gear for when you need it. Water retention should not impede the look of your physique for the interim. Once you've cut an appropriate amount of weight you should get on the exotic compound and you'll look and feel a heck of a lot better. Not to mention save a lot of cash. Just my two cents. We'll see what Gods input is.