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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: George Whorewell on August 11, 2009, 04:49:10 PM
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A black male and self described "independent" was beaten and called racial epithets by union members outside a townhall meeting in St. Louis. Jesus Christ. I just saw this guy on TV-- He appears as harmless as Kirby Puckett; Someone tell Obama that if he wants to send out violent thugs to intimidate the "Right Wing Nuts" trying to scare people, they should target some loud, obnoxious, unlikeable white people.
Fortunately this beating was caught on tape the perpetrators were arrested.
Change we can believe in!
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when or where has it been established that obama is somehow a part of these thug's behavior?
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Its been publicized everywhere. Obama himself said the following; "I commend my unionist foot soldiers for silencing dissent on my healthcare reform project. I hope this brutal crackdown will continue," he said. - Source: MSNBC
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here's the problem...
The left has been painting the RIGHT as violent nuts at town halls, and Drudge has only been encouraging it.
So, at this point, hilary clinton could set off firecrackers at a town hall and bill Oreilly would get blamed.
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Its been publicized everywhere. Obama himself said the following; "I commend my unionist foot soldiers for silencing dissent on my healthcare reform project. I hope this brutal crackdown will continue," he said. - Source: FOX NEWS
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Its been publicized everywhere. Obama himself said the following; "I commend my unionist foot soldiers for silencing dissent on my healthcare reform project. I hope this brutal crackdown will continue," he said. - Source: MSNBC
are you shitting me! is there a link?
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are you shitting me! is there a link?
www.WhorewellWasKidding. com
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www.WhorewellWasKidding.com
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AARRRGH!!!
I can't believe I actually clicked on that link. :-[
Do you mean he was kidding, ...or that he was lying... deliberately posting false inflammatory information?
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This just in- Jaguar misses obvious day at camp stupid... Thousands vent their outrage on getbig.com
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www.WhorewellWasKidding.com
haha shoulda known ;D
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If my thread about Sarah Palin resigning from John McCain's ticket in favour of Mrs Fields from Mrs Fields cookies got deleted for being false, ...this one should be too, ...especially when Whorewell starts playing the race card. No better than that psycho face carving girl... or the baby killer Susan Smith! {spit}
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Playing the race card?
The guy who got beat up was black. The guys who beat him up were white.
You are really so delusional you can't even read without your own warped point of view interfering with reality.
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what I find rather interesting is the way the right manipulates the truly ignorant & stupid in your society.
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AARRRGH!!!
I can't believe I actually clicked on that link. :-[
Gotta love the irony... ;D
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Hahahahaha
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Bump for Jag the Jack Ass
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The guy claimed that one of the black union bubbas asked him, "What kind of n**#&a are you?
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A black male and self described "independent" was beaten and called racial epithets by union members outside a townhall meeting in St. Louis. Jesus Christ. I just saw this guy on TV-- He appears as harmless as Kirby Puckett; Someone tell Obama that if he wants to send out violent thugs to intimidate the "Right Wing Nuts" trying to scare people, they should target some loud, obnoxious, unlikeable white people.
Fortunately this beating was caught on tape the perpetrators were arrested.
Change we can believe in!
link to tape?
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The guy claimed that one of the black union bubbas asked him, "What kind of n**#&a are you?
How very Christian of you. :-\
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This just in- Jaguar misses obvious day at camp stupid... Thousands vent their outrage on getbig.com
Jaguar never went to camp stupid. I clicked the link without reading it because 240 posted it.
Some people have a certain amount of credibility... 240 happens to be one of them so I clicked his link.
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http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/08/tea-party-protesters-attacked-1-man.html
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Oh brother.........no buddy stood up to the sloppy, out of shape, cigarette smoking union retard??????? LMAO! I would have pounded him to dog shit. I thought blacks were known fighters who didn't take shit from nobody?
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How very Christian of you. :-\
Are you always this silly, or is it a show just for me?
The man who was attacked claimed that one of the black unions guys said that to his face. I simply posted that here.
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Oh brother.........no buddy stood up to the sloppy, out of shape, cigarette smoking union retard??????? LMAO! I would have pounded him to dog shit. I thought blacks were known fighters who didn't take shit from nobody?
In my class they are.
The two black guys in this video are rutheless. The skinnier one is Col. Ridenhour and is in the marines and trains the iraqi police hand to hand combat. He just did two tours in Iraq.
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Jaguar never went to camp stupid. I clicked the link without reading it because 240 posted it.
Some people have a certain amount of credibility... 240 happens to be one of them so I clicked his link.
Yes,240 has a lot of credibility.Like his post about Rush using a teleprompter or his post about Palins baby not being hers.Yes sir,he is a very credible guy.
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Im also waiting for guys like 240 to rip into John Conyers.His wife is going to go to jail for corruption and not a peep from you libs.When Palins daughters boyfriends mother got arrested you said it showed Palin is a criminal or has criminal connections.Conyers WIFE is found guilty of corruption and somehow this doesnt reflect on the king of the slow talkers at all.
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In my class they are.
The two black guys in this video are rutheless. The skinnier one is Col. Ridenhour and is in the marines and trains the iraqi police hand to hand combat. He just did two tours in Iraq.
lmao! wtf is this shit? pattycakeXbreakdancing? good luck employing those skills in a real street fight
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Im also waiting for guys like 240 to rip into John Conyers.His wife is going to go to jail for corruption and not a peep from you libs.When Palins daughters boyfriends mother got arrested you said it showed Palin is a criminal or has criminal connections.Conyers WIFE is found guilty of corruption and somehow this doesnt reflect on the king of the slow talkers at all.
the thing is, the average person has no fucking clue who conyers is.
anything related to palin is buzz worthy
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lmao! wtf is this shit? pattycakeXbreakdancing? good luck employing those skills in a real street fight
Its a drill. Its about being able to adapt to situations, not strict kata and robotic like karate punches. Its hard to explain, but when you are in a fighting situation, it helps you get strikes off better and have much better balance in close qaurters. We are not striking to the face all out in practice.
I did TMA for 5 years (Oyama Karate), I did BJJ for a year or so (Not impressed), and then I found these guys. I have done martial arts most of my life and this is by far the best I have found.
Probably 70% of the people in this class have done other arts and are either current law enforcement or military. We have special forces guys, corrections officers, narcs, marines, cops, etc.
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i can see if its 1 on 1 in the middle of the desert but, what happens in a bar or a "gathering" when youre shoulder to shoulder with tens of people? you dont really have time to play patty cake. SOmething like kickboxing lessons would be better for self defense.
Do you really think the guy youre fighting is gonna stand strait up and trade judo chops with you?
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i can see if its 1 on 1 in the middle of the desert but, what happens in a bar or a "gathering" when youre shoulder to shoulder with tens of people? you dont really have time to play patty cake. SOmething like kickboxing lessons would be better for self defense.
Do you really think the guy youre fighting is gonna stand strait up and trade judo chops with you?
For the average person, a base in kick boxing or muay thai is probably best.
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Muy Tai kickboxing with a wrestling or ju-jitsu backround 8). I surprised there are still as many traditional martial arts schools. MMA is far superior in competition and in reality. 33386, check out www.strongstyle.com. Website is still being changed but thats they gym that I coached and trained at for approx 12 yrs.
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I saw the assult victim speak on the news a day or two ago. I know its only his story but there was some video to support his allegations.
The fact that another black guy said "what kind of ni--er are you" is appauling. So...this guy has a different opinion on healthcare or politics and the union black dude is saying 'your breaking some kind of racial code and deserve a beating'??? How else can we read this? Definitely points to continued problems in this country. People are individuals and Americans first, before they belong to any racial group. We must stop encouraging putting people into different categories. This is one of the things liberals often do which is inappropriate. We need to keep pushing for a color blind society where a woman is not criticized for conservative views and a black man can vote however the hell he wants and not feel ridiculed by "his own".
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Muy Tai kickboxing with a wrestling or ju-jitsu backround 8). I surprised there are still as many traditional martial arts schools. MMA is far superior in competition and in reality. 33386, check out www.strongstyle.com. Website is still being changed but thats they gym that I coached and trained at for approx 12 yrs.
Cool site. My opinion is that anything is better than nothing, but you have to look at who the student it and what their goal is.
A 50 y/o man looking for basic self defense does not need to know or spend time on passing a guard or a takedown. That guy needs to learn basic strikes to vital areas like the throat, eyes, neck, groin, etc.
Same with women. They need to learn a base of strikes, like palm strikes, shin kicks, groin kicks, and escapes far more than RNC or triangle chokes.
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Agreed. A combination of kickboxing and some limited stand up grappeling/basic wrestling is still a good base for anyone. We have a lot of guys in their 40s and some in their 50s still at the gym training. They don't get into the cage full go as much anymore like the guys in their 20s and 30s, I totally understand that. Shit, the past year I haven't either and I'm 34 (but that probably has more to do with work). We used to go round robin 5 minute rounds to prepare guys for fights all the time...all our fighters still do.
Agreed that they don't need submission skills...but chokes can come in so handy and end an altercation quickly (at least it did when we were out working at clubs)
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As I keep saying, the decision-makers keep a majority of you focused on who's a liberal and who's not a liberal...an epic focus on the wrong thing.
As long as you allow them to do that, you'll mindlessly continue to do their bidding.
Liberal, conservation, or otherwise...you're all pieces of shit if you're drinking any power group's kool-aid which, of course, is your right to do as an American.
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Agreed. A combination of kickboxing and some limited stand up grappeling/basic wrestling is still a good base for anyone. We have a lot of guys in their 40s and some in their 50s still at the gym training. They don't get into the cage full go as much anymore like the guys in their 20s and 30s, I totally understand that. Shit, the past year I haven't either and I'm 34 (but that probably has more to do with work). We used to go round robin 5 minute rounds to prepare guys for fights all the time...all our fighters still do.
Agreed that they don't need submission skills...but chokes can come in so handy and end an altercation quickly (at least it did when we were out working at clubs)
Brutal Judo Throw!
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Are you always this silly, or is it a show just for me?
:-[ umm.... it's just a show? :-\
The man who was attacked claimed that one of the black unions guys said that to his face. I simply posted that here.
{blush} Ooops. Sorry. :-[
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:-[ umm.... it's just a show? :-\
{blush} Ooops. Sorry. :-[
Jag - you will be happy about this - the bigger black guy in the video I posted threw me a beating Monday night. He's about 6'4 240lbs jacked. I can hold my own against most, but this guy is on a different level.
The smller black guy - Col. Ridenhour - is probably the best in our school and also gave me a beating a few times.
;D ;D ;D ;D.
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In my class they are.
The two black guys in this video are rutheless. The skinnier one is Col. Ridenhour and is in the marines and trains the iraqi police hand to hand combat. He just did two tours in Iraq.
looks like their inspiration was backyard girl fighting. Just looks like they're frantically bitch slaping eachother. Doesn't look offective beyond the fact that your opponent might bail ASAP laughing his ass off and unable to fight.
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I saw the assult victim speak on the news a day or two ago. I know its only his story but there was some video to support his allegations.
The video splinterhands posted does nothing to support Whorewell's first post, or to support any allegation of a racial epithet hurled at him. Further more, it clearly shows 2 men making counter allegations of their own that the man in the light brown shirt who alleges he was attacked, actually attacked a minister whom they were defending.
The fact that another black guy said "what kind of ni--er are you" is appauling. So...this guy has a different opinion on healthcare or politics and the union black dude is saying 'your breaking some kind of racial code and deserve a beating'??? How else can we read this? Definitely points to continued problems in this country. People are individuals and Americans first, before they belong to any racial group. We must stop encouraging putting people into different categories. This is one of the things liberals often do which is inappropriate. We need to keep pushing for a color blind society where a woman is not criticized for conservative views and a black man can vote however the hell he wants and not feel ridiculed by "his own".
Totally agree with this statement,
...and I'd like to add that a woman should also not be criticized for having liberal views either. :D
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Here is the deal Hugo - most of the people have to go to work in the morning, and we do not go for full head strikes in class.
Like I said, I have done martials arts most of life, including TMA, BJJ, etc, and for me, this works the best. Whatever floats your boat.
Additionally, most of the class are military, law enforcement, special forces, and use this stuff every day.
Its based on WW2 combatives of Fairbairn, Rex Applegate, and Sykes.
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seriously, look at the video 333, there are several guys slapping away with their heads turned not even looking at their opponent? WHAT THE FUCK? hahaha... ONLY time I've ever seen that watching two girls go at it. Proof you can make up anything and con people into taking it serious.
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the only thing that's missing from your fight video 333 is hair pulling and biting. lol
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Jag - you will be happy about this - the bigger black guy in the video I posted threw me a beating Monday night. He's about 6'4 240lbs jacked. I can hold my own against most, but this guy is on a different level.
The smller black guy - Col. Ridenhour - is probably the best in our school and also gave me a beating a few times.
;D ;D ;D ;D.
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Wrong, it doesn't make me happy, ...it makes me ecstatic!!!
Did he leave you with lots of nifty bruises, ...knock out a tooth or two perhaps? :D
what?! ... a girl can dream can't she? ;D
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Wrong, it doesn't make me happy, ...it makes me ecstatic!!!
Did he leave you with lots of nifty bruises, ...knock out a tooth or two perhaps? :D
A few.
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As long as they aren't too liberal...hahaha. (or excessively conservative). I think Palin got a raw deal...but also think she was a magnet for some of the less ridiculous criticizm, I'm not a big Palin fan but she was put through the ringer. Will be interesting to see how the next female conservative is treated by the media.
I can't click on the links at work (not at my private office today). The only thing I saw was the victim being interviewed on tv. They played some video in the background but it may not have been the same one. I just thought it sucked, in general. I hate politicians, unions, etc putting people in categories with 'expected behaviors'. We have to get away from that. Thats why I was excited about Michael Steele. I don't agree with him on everything but he's a good guy and it mixes up the traditional republican party leadership. That party needs to be more inclusive and more focused on true conservative economics (or we need a third party...but thats unlikely to happen).
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Here is the deal Hugo - most of the people have to go to work in the morning, and we do not go for full head strikes in class.
Like I said, I have done martials arts most of life, including TMA, BJJ, etc, and for me, this works the best. Whatever floats your boat.
Additionally, most of the class are military, law enforcement, special forces, and use this stuff every day.
Its based on WW2 combatives of Fairbairn, Rex Applegate, and Sykes.
explain to me why you would be completely looking away from your opponent while frantically slapping away? I mean really, you've been in martial arts most of your life and you don't see that as totally laughable?
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A few.
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You've just warmed the cockles of my heart! ;D
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Hugo - check this out
http://www.attackproof.com/PRAISE-FOR-ATTACKPROOF-self-defense-training.html
Im not saying its better or worse thana nything, but we have had Navy Seals, Marine Scouts, Marine Spec. Op. Medics, Cops, Narcs, Corrections Offciers, all come for training.
The leader of the school trains Iraqi police hand to hand to combat and is a Col. in the Marines, did a tour in GW1 and 2 tours in GW2.
We have MMA guys, etc. Its not about a three round bout in a ring. Its about a 10-15 second fight in the street.
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explain to me why you would be completely looking away from your opponent while frantically slapping away? I mean really, you've been in martial arts most of your life and you don't see that as totally laughable?
The premise is that fights in the street are not predictable or go according to a color by numbers situation and that you have to be able to hit and strike and deal with any situation.
I did BJJ for over a year and would not trust that in a bar fight or street scenario.
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:-[ umm.... it's just a show? :-\
{blush} Ooops. Sorry. :-[
Why do the rightwingers on this board think that the guys who beat the shit out of the TeaBaggers (who started the riot) were union members?
I don't see it.
And the opponents of UHC are adept at making shit up...I think this is one more feather in their cap.
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Why do the rightwingers on this board think that the guys who beat the shit out of the TeaBaggers (who started the riot) were union members?
I don't see it.
And the opponents of UHC are adept at making shit up...I think this is one more feather in their cap.
Maybe because they had SEIU shirts on?
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The premise is that fights in the street are not predictable or go according to a color by numbers situation and that you have to be able to hit and strike and deal with any situation.
I did BJJ for over a year and would not trust that in a bar fight or street scenario.
never a reason to be looking away from your opponent while throwing multiple strikes. I laughed pretty hard watching that in your video. You mentioned this not being for 3 round fights. Are you actually saying mma is not effective in a street fighting senerio? REALLY? I'll bet it's as effective and I'm betting way more effective than what I watched in that video of yours.
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As long as they aren't too liberal...hahaha. (or excessively conservative). I think Palin got a raw deal...but also think she was a magnet for some of the less ridiculous criticizm, I'm not a big Palin fan but she was put through the ringer. Will be interesting to see how the next female conservative is treated by the media.
If she's anything like Palin, ...she will get more of the same, ...except some of the jokes might even be funnier.
It's to be expected. Palin was simply a warm up... I don't think America has ever seen such a thing on a national stage. The next time around... they'll take off the kid gloves. :P
The media didn't go after her because she was a conservative woman, ...they went after her cause she's Sarah Palin. Hilary Clinton didn't get the treatment Palin got. Elizabeth Dole didn't get the treatment Palin got,
...not even Geraldine Ferrarro who was up for VP over a generation ago when chauvanism was rampant.
Palin reached heights of hypocrisy & vapidity heretofore unmatched even by Dan Quayle or GWBush ...ok maybe GWB
Thats why I was excited about Michael Steele. I don't agree with him on everything but he's a good guy and it mixes up the traditional republican party leadership. That party needs to be more inclusive and more focused on true conservative economics (or we need a third party...but thats unlikely to happen).
Michael Steele is no pied piper. Black people aren't going to vote republican simply because they have a highly visible Black man in the party. Alan Keyes has been a Republican for years. It didn't bring any Black votes. Colin Powell has been on record as a Republican for years. It didn't bring any Black votes. Same with Condileeza Rice. As we've seen, ...if you want the Black vote, ...you're going to have to go out there and earn it... just like Obama did during the primaries. Polls showed that most Blacks were behind Hilary. Obama earned their vote. I don't know that the Republican party appears ready, willing, or able to earn those votes.
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Maybe because they had SEIU shirts on?
hahahaha. Wrong.
There's guy in a SEIU shirt walking by the scene.
The video doesn't show who attacked whom.
A newspaper reporter was also arrested.
Maybe he's aligned with the union guys who didn't attack the rightwing nutjob.
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never a reason to be looking away from your opponent while throwing multiple strikes. I laughed pretty hard watching that in your video. You mentioned this not being for 3 round fights. Are you actually saying mma is not effective in a street fighting senerio? REALLY? I'll bet it's as effective and I'm betting way more effective than what I watched in that video of yours.
MMA is very effective for street fights, however are you going to train a 55 y/o man looking for basic self defense MMA??? What about a middle aged mother looking for basic self defense? most of the people who take basic self defense are working, parents, have jobs, etc, and cant go four five times a week to perfect an armbar and learn the intracies of transitions of side control to full mount etc.
Additionally, I did BJJ and know the deal. There are no mats in the street. Even Renzo Gracie got injurted in the street against an unkonwn guy trying to take him down on the concrete. Bjj take a long time to become even remotely effective in the street. It should not, and does not, take a year to teach someone basic self defense.
Most of the people we have in the class have to wear uniforms, guns, clothes, etc to work. Are those guys going to do a single leg takedown on a guy??? No. They will get their gun stolen and get killed. One of my best friends is a cop and takes the class and deals with large gangbangers in yonkers and never has a problem.
MMA of course is great, but for many people, its simply not practical. Our class is about self defense, not scoring a triangle from the bottom. For 99% of thje population, you are not fighting GSP in the street and dont need to know all sorts of crazy BJJ moves. Muay Thai, Krav Maga are perfectly adequate for the needs of most people.
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MMA is very effective for street fights, however are you going to train a 55 y/o man looking for basic self defense MMA???
Oh, why didn't you say so... fighting for old folks. I get it now... lol...
PS. all fighting has an added danger with a concrete mat! Street fights often go to the ground, hard to prevent that when you get locked up with an opponent. They even went to the ground in your video! And there are plenty of moves in MMA that are very efficient against an opponent and can lock up the other fighter fast especially if they're not trained. I'm betting the bitchslap session will last longer. If your fighter is older, doesn't it make sense to teach him efficient moves where he best utilizes his leverage? YES! But in your video, you're having the older figher exhaust themselves, clearly. If they've got the energy to girl fight for 60 seconds, then they've got the energy and ability to utilize more efficient moves. I see nothing efficient in what they're doing.
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Hugo just utilizes the ol' "One Punch" technique when he gets into street fights...
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Hugo just utilizes the ol' "One Punch" technique when he gets into street fights...
Fucking A man, I once took out 8 opponents with one punch!!! I hit the first guy so hard, his skull claymored the other 7 ;D
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Fucking A man, I once took out 8 opponents with one punch!!! I hit the first guy so hard, his skull claymored the other 7 ;D
Nice!
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Gotta love the irony... ;D
Hahaha, OWNED!
But wait, Jag claims to have a higher IQ than one Albert Einstein. Surely she wouldn't be stupid enough to do something like that?
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Oh, why didn't you say so... fighting for old folks. I get it now... lol...
PS. all fighting has an added danger with a concrete mat! Street fights often go to the ground, hard to prevent that when you get locked up with an opponent. They even went to the ground in your video! And there are plenty of moves in MMA that are very efficient against an opponent and can lock up the other fighter fast especially if they're not trained. I'm betting the bitchslap session will last longer. If your fighter is older, doesn't it make sense to teach him efficient moves where he best utilizes his leverage? YES! But in your video, you're having the older figher exhaust themselves, clearly. If they've got the energy to girl fight for 60 seconds, then they've got the energy and ability to utilize more efficient moves. I see nothing efficient in what they're doing.
Hugo, have you ever seen some King of the Cage or other amatuer MMA matches??? Some of those guys who have been training for a few years cant even get off a arm bar or other moves.
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I've told you several times since you are close to or in NYC to go check out David James and his self defense VAJ system. Have you done it yet? You can continue to train in that worthless self defense system or you can go check out someone who actually knows what he's talking about. He's in Brooklyn, atleast check him out and talk to him or watch a class. It will forever change your view on street self defense. I'm sure he has an opinion on the patty cake stuff you are training under now.
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Ha ha. Thanks. The Special Forces guys, cops, correction officers, marines, narcs, etc who all trained in other schools dont think its worthless.
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Ha ha. Thanks. The Special Forces guys, cops, correction officers, marines, narcs, etc who all trained in other schools dont think its worthless.
::) Check out a class and you'll see the difference. I trained in Colorado Springs and we got tons of Spec Ops and Marines come to our school? So what? That's not what makes the system what it is. Correction offciers? LMAO! Oh brother! Yeah that proves a system is effective huh? LOL.
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::) Check out a class and you'll see the difference. I trained in Colorado Springs and we got tons of Spec Ops and Marines come to our school? So what? That's not what makes the system what it is. Correction offciers? LMAO! Oh brother! Yeah that proves a system is effective huh? LOL.
Brooklyn takes a long time for me due to the traffic, but I saw that link and think that guy probably has a really good school.
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Brooklyn takes a long time for me due to the traffic, but I saw that link and think that guy probably has a really good school.
He teaches in Manhattan as well on Thursday nights I believe. He has a few other schools in Jersey.