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Title: Gun Control is Racist
Post by: VikingArthur on August 11, 2009, 06:11:22 PM
What makes the United States a free society? Is it because we have a right to vote, to spend our money as we please (December 23rd, 1913 to the present notwithstanding), or that we have a wonderful Constitution that tells us we are permitted to exercise certain rights? NO. We are free because we live in a society where ordinary people – rich and poor, black and white, straight and gay, young and old, religious and atheistic - who obey the law are able to keep and bear arms. The men who founded this great nation of ours knew first-hand the benefit of having an armed citizenry, instead of restricting the use of arms to a particular class, race, or religion. English common law, as expounded upon by superb thinkers such as Sir William Blackstone and A.V. Dicey, was very clear in defining that ordinary law-abiding citizens were not only allowed to keep and bear their own personal arms, but that keeping and bearing said arms was a good and noble thing to do! Our own Constitution has a very solid basis in English common law, so there is little room for questions as to the place that the Founding Fathers saw for arms in their fledgling nation. Advocates of gun control measures appear to have only a distorted view of the Constitution alone, ignoring all the other writings from its Framers on the subject of arms and their place in a free society.

http://www.arthurshall.com/x_2009_gun_control_is_racist.shtml
Title: Re: Gun Control is Racist
Post by: 24KT on August 11, 2009, 06:31:44 PM
What makes the United States a free society? Is it because we have a right to vote, to spend our money as we please (December 23rd, 1913 to the present notwithstanding), or that we have a wonderful Constitution that tells us we are permitted to exercise certain rights? NO. We are free because we live in a society where ordinary people – rich and poor, black and white, straight and gay, young and old, religious and atheistic - who obey the law are able to keep and bear arms. The men who founded this great nation of ours knew first-hand the benefit of having an armed citizenry, instead of restricting the use of arms to a particular class, race, or religion. English common law, as expounded upon by superb thinkers such as Sir William Blackstone and A.V. Dicey, was very clear in defining that ordinary law-abiding citizens were not only allowed to keep and bear their own personal arms, but that keeping and bearing said arms was a good and noble thing to do! Our own Constitution has a very solid basis in English common law, so there is little room for questions as to the place that the Founding Fathers saw for arms in their fledgling nation. Advocates of gun control measures appear to have only a distorted view of the Constitution alone, ignoring all the other writings from its Framers on the subject of arms and their place in a free society.

http://www.arthurshall.com/x_2009_gun_control_is_racist.shtml

Very interesting link.

There are a lot of slippery slopes over the years whose impetus for which were originally rooted in racism.
Title: Re: Gun Control is Racist
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on August 11, 2009, 06:38:03 PM
What makes the United States a free society? Is it because we have a right to vote, to spend our money as we please (December 23rd, 1913 to the present notwithstanding), or that we have a wonderful Constitution that tells us we are permitted to exercise certain rights? NO. We are free because we live in a society where ordinary people – rich and poor, black and white, straight and gay, young and old, religious and atheistic - who obey the law are able to keep and bear arms. The men who founded this great nation of ours knew first-hand the benefit of having an armed citizenry, instead of restricting the use of arms to a particular class, race, or religion. English common law, as expounded upon by superb thinkers such as Sir William Blackstone and A.V. Dicey, was very clear in defining that ordinary law-abiding citizens were not only allowed to keep and bear their own personal arms, but that keeping and bearing said arms was a good and noble thing to do! Our own Constitution has a very solid basis in English common law, so there is little room for questions as to the place that the Founding Fathers saw for arms in their fledgling nation. Advocates of gun control measures appear to have only a distorted view of the Constitution alone, ignoring all the other writings from its Framers on the subject of arms and their place in a free society.

http://www.arthurshall.com/x_2009_gun_control_is_racist.shtml

Good post. 

"An armed society is a polite society.  Manners are important when one may have to back up his words with his life."

-Robert A. Heinlein.
Title: Re: Gun Control is Racist
Post by: 24KT on August 11, 2009, 06:43:46 PM
Good post. 

"An armed society is a polite society.  Manners are important when one may have to back up his words with his life."

-Robert A. Heinlein.

"Only in an uncivilized society would a man have to pay for his words with his life."

--Jaguar

 >:(
Title: Re: Gun Control is Racist
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on August 11, 2009, 06:48:19 PM
"Only in an uncivilized society would a man have to pay for his words with his life."

--Jaguar

 >:(

You're right to a point.  This country is filled with criminals going unpunished in the name of "tolerance" and "victimization."  Take away the individual right to protect himself and there isn't much left.
Title: Re: Gun Control is Racist
Post by: The Master on August 11, 2009, 06:51:43 PM
"Only in an uncivilized society would a man have to pay for his words with his life."

--Jaguar

 >:(

Despite the infinite amount of negative things that can be said about you: With this post you were absolutely spot on!  ;)
Title: Re: Gun Control is Racist
Post by: 24KT on August 12, 2009, 12:00:34 AM
You're right to a point.  This country is filled with criminals going unpunished in the name of "tolerance" and "victimization."  Take away the individual right to protect himself and there isn't much left.

Don't forget Bush & Cheney's favourite.... executive privilege. {spit}
Title: Re: Gun Control is Racist
Post by: 24KT on August 12, 2009, 12:04:13 AM
Despite the infinite amount of negative things that can be said about you: With this post you were absolutely spot on!  ;)

Oh My Goodness... DeBussey agreed with me on something? ...must be that time of the year...  :-\

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Title: Re: Gun Control is Racist
Post by: splinterhands on August 12, 2009, 02:00:56 AM
You're right to a point.  This country is filled with criminals going unpunished in the name of "tolerance" and "victimization."  Take away the individual right to protect himself and there isn't much left.

+1
Title: Re: Gun Control is Racist
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 12, 2009, 05:48:31 AM
Very interesting link.

There are a lot of slippery slopes over the years whose impetus for which were originally rooted in racism.

Actually, the first gun control laws in this country were directed against blacks. 

Gun control is evil IMHO.   
Title: Re: Gun Control is Racist
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 12, 2009, 05:50:41 AM
"Only in an uncivilized society would a man have to pay for his words with his life."

--Jaguar

 >:(

More pie in the sky nonsense.  The history of mankind shows that the stronger will dominate the weak.   Guns and weapons make the sitution more equal where those physdically stronger cannot as easily dominate the weaker in the society.   
Title: Re: Gun Control is Racist
Post by: MRDUMPLING on August 12, 2009, 08:03:27 AM
"God created man, Sam Colt made them equal".

-Unknown.   ;D
Title: Re: Gun Control is Racist
Post by: VikingArthur on August 12, 2009, 03:11:06 PM
Gun control is always the first step to tyranny and authoritarianism. When a people decide to give up their right to defend themselves, they are lost.