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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: disturbia on August 11, 2009, 11:42:49 PM
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97?
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man how did Yates beat those 2 that year?
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man how did Yates beat those 2 that year?
That was 96. Dorian's back itself is dry, however he has no biceps, small delts, little separation in his delts and arms, less pronounced v-taper, and lack of hamstrings (relatively) - yet he still somehow wins the pose. ::)
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That was 1996. Nasser got DQ'd and received $0 for all his troubles.
This is a perfect example of angles. From that angle it appears that Shawn Ray has a wider and denser back then Dorian. Shawn is actually very narrow (I've stood right beside him), and his lack of back thickness was his weakness. If you see the video on youtube, Dorian's thin skin wins it for him yet again. Nasser, despite cheating placed behind Shawn and Dorian.
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Yep - 96.
Dorian destroyed Nasser from the back in that contest - he was superdry. That picture doesn't do it justice and it does look like Nasser has a very good back in that shot. However, I've got the VHS video at home of that contest year and Nasser's back is appalling in comparision during the posing round. From the front he was awesome, but lost it by a mile when he turned round. It was a close call between Yates and Shawn that year in terms of conditioning and the bigger man won. Shawn should have had it in 94 though.
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old pic
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That was 1996. Nasser got DQ'd and received $0 for all his troubles.
This is a perfect example of angles. From that angle it appears that Shawn Ray has a wider and denser back then Dorian. Shawn is actually very narrow (I've stood right beside him), and his lack of back thickness was his weakness. If you see the video on youtube, Dorian's thin skin wins it for him yet again. Nasser, despite cheating placed behind Shawn and Dorian.
Totally agree, i have some of the 1996 Grand Prix shows, the camara footage is much closer than at the O. When Dorian turns around the show is over. Even from the front and side his condition is at another level than those guys.
Still shots do not show the truth.
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That was 1996. Nasser got DQ'd and received $0 for all his troubles.
This is a perfect example of angles. From that angle it appears that Shawn Ray has a wider and denser back then Dorian. Shawn is actually very narrow (I've stood right beside him), and his lack of back thickness was his weakness. If you see the video on youtube, Dorian's thin skin wins it for him yet again. Nasser, despite cheating placed behind Shawn and Dorian.
why?
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why?
Diuretics I think - they tested for it that year.
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1997
surprised to see you people talking about bodyubilding for once and not attacking eachother
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1997
surprised to see you people talking about bodyubilding for once and not attacking eachother
STFU homo and keep your observations to yourself
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Totally agree, i have some of the 1996 Grand Prix shows, the camara footage is much closer than at the O. When Dorian turns around the show is over. Even from the front and side his condition is at another level than those guys.
Still shots do not show the truth.
can you post them here plz?
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man how did Yates beat those 2 that year?
Ben and Joe AMI Olympia = no way in hell Bicepless = Shawn Ray 1-time MrO
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883bc
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96. Yates' waist was much wider in 97.
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96
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Ben and Joe AMI Olympia = no way in hell Bicepless = Shawn Ray 1-time MrO
ami had nothing to do with the Yates years.
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ami had nothing to do with the Yates years.
AMI = no way in hell Bicepless Yates = u get it now = Shawn 1st-Time O.
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Screenshots of all the mandatories at various angles from the 96 Olympia (i.e. not just the "back" like Dorian fans like to cling to) ;)
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Diuretics I think - they tested for it that year.
Actually, they didn't test for it that year. There was speculation that they would, but no test occured and practically ever competitor that year took them. However, Nasser mentioned in passing to Mike Matarazzo that he took them who ratted him out to the powers that be who took away his prize money as a result.
In 2001 there actually was a test and Jay Cutler failed it, but they did not take away his prize money or placing.
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Actually, they didn't test for it that year. There was speculation that they would, but no test occured and practically ever competitor that year took them. However, Nasser mentioned in passing to Mike Matarazzo that he took them who ratted him out to the powers that be who took away his prize money as a result.
In 2001 there actually was a test and Jay Cutler failed it, but they did not take away his prize money or placing.
Ah, didn't know that - I stand corrected.
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Actually, they didn't test for it that year. There was speculation that they would, but no test occured and practically ever competitor that year took them. However, Nasser mentioned in passing to Mike Matarazzo that he took them who ratted him out to the powers that be who took away his prize money as a result.
In 2001 there actually was a test and Jay Cutler failed it, but they did not take away his prize money or placing.
PROVE IT don't claim it and Nasser's hearsay isn't proof
And FYI Bobs another out right lie on your behalf because at the athletes meeting ALL the athletes agreed that they would lose their place as well as the money if they were DQ stop trying to make him out to be a victim , Nasser rolled the dice and came up empty handed as usual he took the diuretics and still was water logged from the back
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That was 96. Dorian's back itself is dry, however he has no biceps, small delts, little separation in his delts and arms, less pronounced v-taper, and lack of hamstrings (relatively) - yet he still somehow wins the pose. ::)
He just doesn't win this pose he obliterates Nasser in this pose and so did the 215 pounds Shawn Ray , you see what you want and ironically always against what the judges see
little separation in his delts? LMFAO and arms ::) ::) ::) look at Nasser's NON-EXISTENT forearms that's oaky because it's Nasser ::)
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That was 1996. Nasser got DQ'd and received $0 for all his troubles.
This is a perfect example of angles. From that angle it appears that Shawn Ray has a wider and denser back then Dorian. Shawn is actually very narrow (I've stood right beside him), and his lack of back thickness was his weakness. If you see the video on youtube, Dorian's thin skin wins it for him yet again. Nasser, despite cheating placed behind Shawn and Dorian.
exactly pictures can be misleading because of perspective and angles these guys think they struck gold but as usual they can't look beyond their own bias
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Dorian CRUSHED everybody in 96.
97 not so much
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Dorian CRUSHED everybody in 96.
97 not so much
exactly , he could have lost in 97 all other years be bested everyone
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I think Nasser's posing could have been better- he had a little Dillett syndrome going in the BDB. Also kicked his arm out all stupid in the side tri- legs too straight in FLS- and usually held arms too high whenever they were over his head... could really go on forever- just picture a chewbacca marionette, but with meat instead of hair.
Biggest thing tho- he held his abs tight and "hulked-out" his shoulders for width- not displaying tons of depth for all that weight, and a wicked blocky look... If he expanded his ribcage like Doz, at least all that meat would be slopped-on the same way, for comparison's sake, and he's only a better posing routine away from tossing the whole aesthetic debate away and beating Yates with his extra 20 lbs... Just like Yates did to Ray, and Cuts did to Ronnie...
I'd say at least 10% of Dillett was lost in translation to the stage with poor posing, with another 5% lost with thick skin and wuss lifting- maybe with only a 5% gain with better posing, Nasser could have won more plastic trophies!
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i lost my virginity that year
...I couldn't walk for a week
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i lost my virginity that year
...I couldn't walk for a week
did you bleed much johnny?
sorry brah, i couldn't resist :D
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did you bleed much johnny?
sorry brah, i couldn't resist :D
of course, i got my "man-hymen" broken
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PROVE IT don't claim it and Nasser's hearsay isn't proof
And FYI Bobs another out right lie on your behalf because at the athletes meeting ALL the athletes agreed that they would lose their place as well as the money if they were DQ stop trying to make him out to be a victim , Nasser rolled the dice and came up empty handed as usual he took the diuretics and still was water logged from the back
Discussing that there will be a test at the athletes meeting proves that it took place? lol. I don't care if you believe it or not, but if you do ever get to talk to anyone who competed at the 96 O then go ahead and ask if there was a test, you'll be surprised ;)
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exactly pictures can be misleading because of perspective and angles these guys think they struck gold but as usual they can't look beyond their own bias
Pictures are only misleading against Dorian and in favour of everyone else, great logic ::)
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Discussing that there will be a test at the athletes meeting proves that it took place? lol. I don't care if you believe it or not, but if you do ever get to talk to anyone who competed at the 96 O then go ahead and ask if there was a test, you'll be surprised ;)
Again don't tell me PROVE IT TO ME you're going on Nasser's hearsay and we've already established he's a bitter crybaby and entertaining your nonsense if that were the case he could have sued and won to have his THIRD PLACE win reestablished ;) either way you're fucked
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Pictures are only misleading against Dorian and in favour of everyone else, great logic ::)
No pics are misleading at times especially when they show Yates is 4" shorter standing side-by-side and all the pic you posted prove exactly what the judges decided Dorian was better you see what you want and 99% of the time it contradicts what the judges picked which proves you simply don't know what you're talking about and when faced with this fact you cry ' politics ' history proves Nasser wasn't that great regardless of what you may feel
pics aren't as good as video , video isn't as good as being there live and in person
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pics aren't as good as video , video isn't as good as being there live and in person
bullfucking shit.
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you think you have a better view of the contest from the 43d row sitting behind some tall guy than a good video clip?
please.
its like saying that the view of a WWE match from the balcony seating is just as good as the view on your TV.
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your only saying this bullshit because all the videos and pics show that McGough is wrong with many of his comments re dorian and ronnie, as he is biased as hell for his good friend dorian. ::)
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bullfucking shit.
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you think you have a better view of the contest from the 43d row sitting behind some tall guy than a good video clip?
please.
its like saying that the view of a WWE match from the balcony seating is just as good as the view on your TV.
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your only saying this bullshit because all the videos and pics show that McGough is wrong with many of his comments re dorian and ronnie, as he is biased as hell for his good friend dorian. ::)
the guys I'm talking about were FRONT ROW simpleton ;) another classic example of Hulkster jumping the gun and NOT using his head ;D
you're the same dummy who claimed you're just as qualified to judge sitting at home on your PC as the guys are 10 feet away :-\
I feel bad because you're not longer ignorant because I schooled you , now you're just stupid ;D
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can you post them here plz?
Small Vid but Nasser is featured first (nice first shot)
PL&index=39
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He just doesn't win this pose he obliterates Nasser in this pose and so did the 215 pounds Shawn Ray , you see what you want and ironically always against what the judges see
little separation in his delts? LMFAO and arms ::) ::) ::) look at Nasser's NON-EXISTENT forearms that's oaky because it's Nasser ::)
as i said before you always choose pics from certain angles to prove you are right.. the credibility of team nasser prevents us from doing the same.. we always post the whole thing for the TRUTH sake ;D
to use your way I am posting the below pic. to show how nasser’s forearm was better than dorian’s (which was not true).. I agree that dorian’s was better but nasser’s was not bad and still went well with his massive arm.. dorian’s forearm overpowered his arm the same way his calve overpowered his quad..
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Small Vid but Nasser is featured first (nice first shot)
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thx my friend but i saw this before :)
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why didn't yates train his arms in 97?
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jesus those biceps look terrible on dorian.
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If you look at Dorian's waist in 96, i think the only reason he was bloated in 97 was the Tri tear. His metabilism would have slowed down as he couldn't train the same and it would have left him bloated. As in 94.
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Dorian got owned in those pics.
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Dorian got owned in those pics.
yes unfortunately for his balls lovers fans..