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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: divcom on August 12, 2009, 10:44:18 AM
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Please stop comparing Heath to the retired Ronnie as far as arms and body parts. I'm sure phil will be a monster at 35 at the rate his juicing up but he still dont have the structure.
Cause Phil cant...
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the Heath comparisons to Ronnie are ridiculous, it's funny how quickly people forget just how incredible Ronnie was
Heath will never compare to Ronnie
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compare rhonnie and phill at the same age... you wouldnt be saying that then...
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compare rhonnie and phill at the same age... you wouldnt be saying that then...
one of the reasons ronnie got so big was because of his relative "slow" growth. also, in the end, ronnie was about 6 feet tall with longs limbs and wide shoulders and a big chest. his overall structural presence gives him an advantage heath never will have.
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I'm not sure why people compare the two anyway - two completely different types of physique, different heights, weights, everything. ???
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In terms of height and physique Heath would be closer to Flex and Levrone, in fact, he looks like a Flex/Levrone hybrid.
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the Heath comparisons to Ronnie are ridiculous, it's funny how quickly people forget just how incredible Ronnie was
Heath will never compare to Ronnie
ron is not doing much to remind us
with his current porcine stage presentations
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compare rhonnie and phill at the same age... you wouldnt be saying that then...
again...ronnie had a FT career which most likely played into his slow move through the ranks. what happens if Ronnie comes out of college, works at a gym FT and has access to an established pro? What ronnie looks like at 29-30 where phil is now? Ronnie road is so different from the other top 10 guys it's not real.
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ron is not doing much to remind us
with his current porcine stage presentations
He doesn't have to. His 8 Mr O titles speak for themselves and so do his vids and his strength. What every getbigger max's out with, ronnie uses as a wrist curl. Case closed.
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He doesn't have to. His 8 Mr O titles speak for themselves and so do his vids and his strength. What every getbigger max's out with, ronnie uses as a wrist curl. Case closed.
;)
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When is MC hammer's comeback...? worked out fine for MJ...
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Heath is so narrow it makes his arms appear massive, when in reality they are 20 inches
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the Heath comparisons to Ronnie are ridiculous, it's funny how quickly people forget just how incredible Ronnie was
Heath will never compare to Ronnie
i agree, it is silly how people even put these two in the same hemisphere.............. ...thats cause many on here are 17 and 18 year old boys, who have never seen ronnie in person.................. ....and only in person could you truely appreciate how he made other professional bodybuilders look like local NPC competitors.
it was not even fair, ronnie was as wide as two phil heaths
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He doesn't have to. His 8 Mr O titles speak for themselves and so do his vids and his strength. What every getbigger max's out with, ronnie uses as a wrist curl. Case closed.
qft
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Heath is so narrow it makes his arms appear massive, when in reality they are 20 inches
When he first won his pro card.
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I guarantee Heath's arms are much larger than 20 inches; he has the best arms of any current competitor in my opinion. Overall, his physique resembles Levrone more than anyone.
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Does he every train at Metroflex anymore?
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When he first won his pro card.
his arms 20.5 inch contest
i doubt they have grown in size
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his arms 20.5 inch contest
i doubt they have grown in size
i know you have to be trying to be sarcastic!!! Did you see the pix from the Dex. Jackson Classic? Plus this:
http://www.flexonline.com/phil_heath_video/news/857 (http://www.flexonline.com/phil_heath_video/news/857) Even though he is about 10+ weeks from the Mr. O, those arms are seriously over 20 inches.
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08 O's...
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Heath is so narrow it makes his arms appear massive, when in reality they are 20 inches
20'' in lenght too what makes em look much bigger then they are
copare photos showing heath and ronnie in same scale und you will see that ronnies arms are at least 2-3 inches bigger
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his arms 20.5 inch contest
i doubt they have grown in size
Hey that happens to be the size genetically talented people can achieve naturally. 8)
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Get real guys comparing Ronnie in his prime to the best of Phil is a joke. Big Ron destroys him in every aspect except calves. Phil doesn't have the frame to get to the status that Ronnie achieved. You guys really need to be comparing Phil to guys like Ray, Kevin and Flex.
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Get real guys comparing Ronnie in his prime to the best of Phil is a joke. Big Ron destroys him in every aspect except calves. Phil doesn't have the frame to get to the status that Ronnie achieved. You guys really need to be comparing Phil to guys like Ray, Kevin and Flex.
Correct. Actually more Levrone and Flex.
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Phil doesn't have the frame to get to the status that Ronnie achieved.
When Ronnie competed in the 2000 Mr Olympia at 260 something, every one said there was no way he could possibly put on any more muscle on his frame, but we all know what happened.
Phil seems a lot like Shawn Ray in his approach to bodybuilding (training very hard, but not super heavy), while having Ronnie-esque genetics for being freaky and Wheeler-esque shape / roundness. Phil could become even freakier than Ronnie in a few years if he progresses at the rate he's doing now. And he seems to know what he's doing.
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When Ronnie competed in the 2000 Mr Olympia at 260 something, every one said there was no way he could possibly put on any more muscle on his frame, but we all know what happened.
Phil seems a lot like Shawn Ray in his approach to bodybuilding (training very hard, but not super heavy), while having Ronnie-esque genetics for being freaky and Wheeler-esque shape / roundness. Phil could become even freakier than Ronnie in a few years if he progresses at the rate he's doing now. And he seems to know what he's doing.
I beg to differ kiwi he doesnt have the structure to get to Ronnnies level
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I beg to differ kiwi he doesnt have the structure to get to Ronnnies level
I have to agree; as much as I like Heath -- he will be Mr. O this year -- I can't picture him adding the 50-60 lbs it would take to match Ronnie's size.
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I beg to differ kiwi he doesnt have the structure to get to Ronnnies level
We will see. It will be interesting either way.
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Indeed this year will be interesting if kai stocks up on grapefruit he may take it. Seems to be his source of strength ;D
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......boooooommmmmmm.... ......
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I also like Phil a lot as a premier bodybuilder. But putting even 50 more pounds on his frame would make Phil look ridiculous and not in a good way. Ronnie had the frame to build on and Phil doesn't. I mean imagine Phil weighing 270lbs. Contest weight and still keeping it all together with his frame.
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I also like Phil a lot as a premier bodybuilder. But putting even 50 more pounds on his frame would make Phil look ridiculous and not in a good way. Ronnie had the frame to build on and Phil doesn't. I mean imagine Phil weighing 270lbs. Contest weight and still keeping it all together with his frame.
Exactly ;)
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phil doesnt need to add that much weight tho, he just needs to add a bit size here and there to even his physique out, a little more chest and back mass and he'l be a major force.....
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I just got off the phone with NASSER as soon as he gets off his oil changing job at Jiffy lube he is going to start training for the O and has plans to take care of Phil. ;)
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To even compare Ronnie to someone in bodybuilding is an insult.
He is(was) THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME.
"Ronnie vs. Heath" - This thread should not even exist.
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the only thing i would compare on them is arms conditioning and brains
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I agree..
Ronnie isn't the brightest man..
Heath gives the impression of being "intellectual" and wellspoken..
But we are talking physiques I assume? :)
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In terms of height and physique Heath would be closer to Flex and Levrone, in fact, he looks like a Flex/Levrone hybrid.
Agree with that. IMO Heath's either gotta get drier or even bigger to match Flex at his best or get closer to Coleman.
I agree..
Ronnie isn't the brightest man..
Heath gives the impression of being "intellectual" and wellspoken..
You're a little off there, as so many here are. It's one thing how he might come across but at the same time Coleman's got a degree in accounting that wouldn't be that easy to get.
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heath is good, but he seems a little soft in some shots. great arms though, but odd looking chest.
he has a ways to go go catch King Coleman though
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Agree with that. IMO Heath's either gotta get drier or even bigger to match Flex at his best or get closer to Coleman.
You're a little off there, as so many here are. It's one thing how he might come across but at the same time Coleman's got a degree in accounting that wouldn't be that easy to get.
You have a point there!
But you have to admit that he sounds as an "stupid" individual.. can be the the Texas dialect.. :)
Having a degree in USA is not that hard to achieve.. no disrespect for you guys living in the US. (Depends on the "quality" of the university)
Where I live it's very hard to even get a degree, they have hard requirements - many from the US come here to study because it will look good on their CV when they will apply for a job.
But there is no doubt that the THE GREATEST knows how to handle his money and invest them.
PS. HE(ATH) WILL NEVER "CATCH" COLEMAN.
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It will be hard for ANY bodybuilder to ever match Ronnie's size in his prime.
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Where I live it's very hard to even get a degree, they have hard requirements - many from the US come here to study because it will look good on their CV when they will apply for a job.
so you live in Canada like me? thats where I got my degree 8)
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Canada? Respect!
No, I live in the country of polarbears! ;D
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Heath got that narrow type of chest that Lee Priest has. Heaths almost looks torn, but itīs not.
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heath and coleman in the same sentence is very wrong. even jay in the same sentence as coleman is stupid.