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Nope.
But they should have tagged that mouthy camera-negro for inciting or something.
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Only had to watch to 00:52, abso-fucking-lutely.
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We're they wrong? I can't believe that's even a question.
THIS shit burns my balls. Unbelievable behavior.
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We're they wrong? I can't believe that's even a question.
THIS shit burns my balls. Unbelievable behavior.
Ya, the best thing for the guy to do would have been to turn the camera off and go away. Just trying to agitate up a riot...
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Ya, the best thing for the guy to do would have been to turn the camera off and go away. Just trying to agitate up a riot...
Does that honestly surprise you?
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She had a fucking knife!! What should have happened?
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Nope.
But they should have tagged that mouthy camera-negro for inciting or something.
I agree, they probably made it worse. They should have been ticketed for obstruction or some shit. As far as the lady with the knife, give me a break. Looks like her top speed is about 7 steps per hour. The cop was never in any danger and should have just kept some distance and talked her into dropping the knife. No need to slam great grandma to the ground ::)
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Ya, the best thing for the guy to do would have been to turn the camera off and go away. Just trying to agitate up a riot...
filming it is good, getting up in the situation with the camera and talking shit probably just made it worse.
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She had a fucking knife!! What should have happened?
LOL, uh, the cop probably had a better chance of being hit in the head by a meteor than being struck with a knife from an elderly woman who walks slower than a turtle.
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I agree, they probably made it worse. They should have been ticketed for obstruction or some shit. As far as the lady with the knife, give me a break. Looks like her top speed is about 7 steps per hour. The cop was never in any danger and should have just kept some distance and talked her into dropping the knife. No need to slam great grandma to the ground ::)
LOL but were they within the law to do so? was it necessary? not really at least not at that point but from a police officers perspective better to not let the situation escalate then let it and have to deal with the consequences. I totally understand why she did what she did if she would have waited and perhaps had to taser the old lady a bunch of ppl would be bitching about that as well. Police officers a tough job and getting tougher by the day especially when you have ppl like jag and her kind out here blaming the cops for everything.
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LOL but were they within the law to do so? was it necessary? not really at least not at that point but from a police officers perspective better to not let the situation escalate then let it and have to deal with the consequences. I totally understand why she did what she did if she would have waited and perhaps had to teaser the old lady a bunch of Pol would be bitching about that as well. Police officers a tough job and getting tougher by the day especially when you have Pol like jag and her kind out here blaming the cops for everything.
oh the lady had a knife. What they did is OK on paper. But really, WTF? How about some level of accessing the situation. Way stupid course of action in this case. The way the cop handled it, could have made it worse. Had one of the people in the crowd been armed, seeing it go down like that, it could have escalated. Clearly the cop should have seen that the chance of actually being harmed by an elderly woman who can hardly walk must be as close to zero as it gets. If they would have just talked to the lady nicely and kept some distance, the situation would have ended without doing anything. Looking at the lady, I'd say she had another 5 minutes before she couldn't stand and just wanted to go watch TV at the retirement home lol...
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oh the lady had a knife. What they did is OK on paper. But really, WTF? How about some level of accessing the situation. Way stupid course of action in this case. The way the cop handled it, could have made it worse. Had one of the people in the crowd been armed, seeing it go down like that, it could have escalated. Clearly the cop should have seen that the chance of actually being harmed by an elderly woman who can hardly walk must be as close to zero as it gets. If they would have just talked to the lady nicely and kept some distance, the situation would have ended without doing anything. Looking at the lady, I'd say she had another 5 minutes before she couldn't stand and just wanted to go watch TV at the retirement home lol...
LOL pretty much agree, give her enough time and she would probably forget why she was even holding the knife.
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oh the lady had a knife. What they did is OK on paper. But really, WTF? How about some level of accessing the situation. Way stupid course of action in this case. The way the cop handled it, could have made it worse. Had one of the people in the crowd been armed, seeing it go down like that, it could have escalated.
I would not have slammed an old lady on the ground and I also agree that it could have escalated the situation however I wasn't the one in that situation. I doubt the cop meant to slam grandma like she did but she was well within the law to use force to control her. Anyone with a knife, intending to use it on you, IS a threat.
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I would not have slammed an old lady on the ground and I also agree that it could have escalated the situation however I wasn't the one in that situation. I doubt the cop meant to slam grandma like she did but she was well within the law to use force to control her. Anyone with a knife, intending to use it on you, IS a threat.
Agreed... anyone intending to use a knife on you IS a threat,
...but do you really think she intended to use the knife on the cop?
I don't even think she knew which way was up. clearly there were a bunch of other people who walked right by her who clearly didn't see her as any threat. I understand the cop wanting to disarm her, ...but I just think she could have shown a little more patience before making the determination that she wasn't going to put it down, ...and I think she used just a little too much force doing it. I think she could have disarmed her without any risk to herself, passersby, ...or the old lady herself, ...it just might have taken longer. :'(
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Agreed... anyone intending to use a knife on you IS a threat,
...but do you really think she intended to use the knife on the cop?
I don't even think she knew which way was up. clearly there were a bunch of other people who walked right by her who clearly didn't see her as any threat. I understand the cop wanting to disarm her, ...but I just think she could have shown a little more patience before making the determination that she wasn't going to put it down, ...and I think she used just a little too much force doing it. I think she could have disarmed her without any risk to herself, passersby, ...or the old lady herself, ...it just might have taken longer. :'(
Obviously the cop didn't consider her much of a threat either or she wouldn't have attempted to disarm her using a takedown. ::) I've said that's not what I would have done, but I WASN'T THERE.
A takedown is normally a "safe" way to get someone on the ground without hurting them seriously. I really doubt the cop tried to hurt her, but unless the cop tells her side of the story, we don't know.
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I would not have slammed an old lady on the ground and I also agree that it could have escalated the situation however I wasn't the one in that situation. I doubt the cop meant to slam grandma like she did but she was well within the law to use force to control her. Anyone with a knife, intending to use it on you, IS a threat.
She looked slightly more dangerous than Stephen Hawking with a knife :D
(http://www.imagedonkey.com/out.php?i=31369_sh.jpg)
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LOL, uh, the cop probably had a better chance of being hit in the head by a meteor than being struck with a knife from an elderly woman who walks slower than a turtle.
LOL
Wonder why the cops were there or called there and why the guy was filming the old lady initially? Why was the old lady holding a knife and why wouldn't she put it down when told to do so?
It's sad the cop used so much force in disarming her and it's sad the old lady didn't just drop it in the first place. I suppose it's possible she couldn't hear the cop that told her to put it down.
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If the old lady was white, the cameraman would be laughing instead of trying to start a riot.
His issue with the situation had nothing to do with her age.
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stupid ass monkeys
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It's funny how so many people just assume the old bag couldn't do any damage with a knife. Really? I wonder if it was a loved one, perhaps even your child, who was near this lady if you would just say "oh, she really isn't going to use it, or she can't do any damage..."
But, because it's a police officer, then she should just take the risk that ole granny-grunt isn't a real threat....
Do what the cop says....very simple....
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Only had to watch to 00:52, abso-fucking-lutely.
That was ridiculous. This is what give cops a bad name.
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LOL pretty much agree, give her enough time and she would probably forget why she was even holding the knife.
LMAO.....Thats cold... ;D
What if she would have jumped out with some cat like reflexes and used that knife like "blade" the daywalker...You never know
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She looked slightly more dangerous than Stephen Hawking with a knife :D
(http://www.imagedonkey.com/out.php?i=31369_sh.jpg)
LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHAH...
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There are better ways to disarm her. Gosh she was weak as a kitten. Poor use of force.
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There are better ways to disarm her. Gosh she was weak as a kitten. Poor use of force.
Taser?
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There are better ways to disarm her. Gosh she was weak as a kitten. Poor use of force.
These cops are really cowards and punks if they can disarm her with other means. Unreal.
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Ohio Cops Defend Slamming 84-Year-Old With Knife to Ground
Wednesday, August 12, 2009
WHITEHALL, Ohio — An Ohio police department says it has received scores of calls from around the country complaining about a YouTube video showing an officer taking an 84-year-old woman to the ground.
Police Chief Richard Zitzke in the Columbus suburb of Whitehall says the officer did what she had to do when the woman was seen holding a steak knife in a Walmart parking lot on Aug. 1. Police say the woman has Alzheimer's.
Zitzke says police have tried to explain their side to callers from as far as Texas and California.
Some have called the white officer a racist. The woman was black.
But Stan Brown of Columbus, the bystander who shot the video with his phone, says he believes no racism was involved. The 29-year-old black man says he now feels badly for the officer.
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Ohio Cops Defend Slamming 84-Year-Old With Knife to Ground
Wednesday, August 12, 2009
WHITEHALL, Ohio — An Ohio police department says it has received scores of calls from around the country complaining about a YouTube video showing an officer taking an 84-year-old woman to the ground.
Police Chief Richard Zitzke in the Columbus suburb of Whitehall says the officer did what she had to do when the woman was seen holding a steak knife in a Walmart parking lot on Aug. 1. Police say the woman has Alzheimer's.
Zitzke says police have tried to explain their side to callers from as far as Texas and California.
Some have called the white officer a racist. The woman was black.
But Stan Brown of Columbus, the bystander who shot the video with his phone, says he believes no racism was involved. The 29-year-old black man says he now feels badly for the officer.
Its not about race, its about power and control.
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Good for Stan Brown.
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Obviously the cop didn't consider her much of a threat either or she wouldn't have attempted to disarm her using a takedown. ::) I've said that's not what I would have done, but I WASN'T THERE.
A takedown is normally a "safe" way to get someone on the ground without hurting them seriously. I really doubt the cop tried to hurt her, but unless the cop tells her side of the story, we don't know.
I don't think the cop was trying to hurt her either. I just don't think she considered the fact that it was pavement.
Bones usually have a tendency to break when they hit pavement, ...as do skulls, as we can see. :-\
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Ohio Cops Defend Slamming 84-Year-Old With Knife to Ground
Wednesday, August 12, 2009
WHITEHALL, Ohio — An Ohio police department says it has received scores of calls from around the country complaining about a YouTube video showing an officer taking an 84-year-old woman to the ground.
Police Chief Richard Zitzke in the Columbus suburb of Whitehall says the officer did what she had to do when the woman was seen holding a steak knife in a Walmart parking lot on Aug. 1. Police say the woman has Alzheimer's.
Zitzke says police have tried to explain their side to callers from as far as Texas and California.
Some have called the white officer a racist. The woman was black.
But Stan Brown of Columbus, the bystander who shot the video with his phone, says he believes no racism was involved. The 29-year-old black man says he now feels badly for the officer.
...but do you really think she intended to use the knife on the cop?
I don't even think she knew which way was up.
Looks like I nailed another one.
My astute assessments & observations never fail to succinctly identify what's really taking place. ;D
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Looks like I nailed another one.
My astute assessments & observations never fail to succinctly identify what's really taking place. ;D
yeah they never fail ;)
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/snarl.gif)
AARRRGH!!!
I can't believe I actually clicked on that link. :-[
Do you mean he was kidding, ...or that he was lying... deliberately posting false inflammatory information?
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yeah they never fail ;)
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/embarassed.gif)
Boonasty, ...my moments of self-aggrandizement are not appropriate times to be introducing the truth. :D
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Ohio Cops Defend Slamming 84-Year-Old With Knife to Ground
Wednesday, August 12, 2009
WHITEHALL, Ohio — An Ohio police department says it has received scores of calls from around the country complaining about a YouTube video showing an officer taking an 84-year-old woman to the ground.
Police Chief Richard Zitzke in the Columbus suburb of Whitehall says the officer did what she had to do when the woman was seen holding a steak knife in a Walmart parking lot on Aug. 1. Police say the woman has Alzheimer's.
Zitzke says police have tried to explain their side to callers from as far as Texas and California.
Some have called the white officer a racist. The woman was black.
But Stan Brown of Columbus, the bystander who shot the video with his phone, says he believes no racism was involved. The 29-year-old black man says he now feels badly for the officer.
it was bad judgement by the officer. Of course the department can justify what the officer did. Doesn't make the officers choice the best choice. It was the worst choice. Well I guess they could have shot her so not the worst but close. You can't really tell so easy if it was racist. The only way to know that is to see if she would have done the same thing to a lady that looked like her great grandmother and we can't do that.
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Amazing, racism!! racism!! racism!!!
Police brutality is color blind!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
meltdown ;D
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i would have punched her in the face...
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i would have punched her in the face...
"Looks like I nailed another one.
My astute assessments & observations never fail to succinctly identify what's really taking place."
I'm not sure you should punch her in the face for saying that. That's a little much... ;)
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Looks like I nailed another one.
My astute assessments & observations never fail to succinctly identify what's really taking place. ;D
simply b/c she had alzheimers doesnt mean she wouldnt have slashed or stabbed at the officer...to the contrary she may have been extremely confused and lashed out in frustration.
I dont agree with how it was handled but I dont disagree with it either, nothing to see here folks more ppl making a mountain out of a mole hill...
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Yes.
Getting attacked and cut with a knife is only dangerous if they MEAN to do it.
If they are crazy.... don't worry about it. ::)
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i would have punched her in the face...
Im saying..a broad with a knife...i dont care if you 12 or 82...im takin a muther fucker down
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Im saying..a broad with a knife...i dont care if you 12 or 82...im takin a muther fucker down
hahahaha i get this mental image of mal creating a crater in an old ladies face ;D i dont know why that makes me smile hahahah im a sick bastard i guess.
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hahahaha i get this mental image of mal creating a crater in an old ladies face ;D i dont know why that makes me smile hahahah im a sick bastard i guess.
Recognizing you're a sick bastard is always the first step isn't it? ;)
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hahahaha i get this mental image of mal creating a crater in an old ladies face ;D i dont know why that makes me smile hahahah im a sick bastard i guess.
i see it like this...everyone on here can cry about it and bitch and moan...but i dont give a shit...knifes do damage and that old broad could have just wildly swung and hit the major vessel in the neck or shit even the bicep has a pretty major vessel...fuck takin chances,,,,im throwin my baton at that broads face....ask questions later
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Definitely excessive IMO. Really unnecessary. My kid could have disarmed that old lady. Looked like a cop fresh out of the police academy. :-\
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proper use of force IMO, she had a knife and was told several times to drop it. You would be amazed how dandergous a little knife or unassuming person can be. The people around them and the camara guy agitated the situation and clearly wanted to throw out racist crap.
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proper use of force IMO, she had a knife and was told several times to drop it. You would be amazed how dandergous a little knife or unassuming person can be. The people around them and the camara guy agitated the situation and clearly wanted to throw out racist crap.
WTF are you talking about? Tell me where in that clip does this guy throw in racist crap?
not once does he mention race AT ALL! >:( He talks about police brutality, he emphasizes her age alot,
...but not once does he say anything about the police doing this to her because of her race.
I dare you to show me at what point he mentions race.
Put up or shut up...and stop reading racial complaints where there are none! >:(