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Bodybuildings biggest sulk, the man who believes he is an uncrowned mr olympia
Standing 5'7 and weighing a meagre 210 lbs with all the drugs flowing through his veins, he didn't even have a normal job, yet could only muster being 200 - 210 on stage with 18 inch arms.
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Yeh he looked so shit
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(http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2009/1/28/14/man-looks-like-thumb-6325-1233172135-12.jpg)
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Brutal shoulder mass
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Brutal shoulder mass
Damn, those guys had it dialed in
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the back double bi comparison is hilarious I have to admit.
and I am a huge fan of both of these guys. but ronnie is crushing him.
still, shawn was amazing, 210 pounds or not:
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Looked great, no oaf-bloat...
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shawn holding his ground in the most muscular pose.
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shawn did good. top 2% bber all-time. only had to do 1 show a yr, made 100K+ yrly and has no clue about working a 9-5. seems financially ok with wife and kids.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=294418.0;attach=334644;image)
If he was 260 pounds looking like this, he blows Ronnie off the stage.
Being 196, however, just doesn't cut it.
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Better question would be, does he beat David Henry?
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Better question would be, does he beat David Henry?
lol it's like comparing rusty to you
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Better question would be, does he beat David Henry?
his 87 nationals winning physique at 199 would give david henry trouble and whole 202 class. another class after he starts placing top 5 O. in other words with ami running the O now, he would have had his 1 or 2 Os.
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shawn would whip the 202 lbs class if there was one during his time
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shawn would whip the 202 lbs class if there was one during his time
no doubt
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Better question would be, does he beat David Henry?
Close call but I think Shawn still wins. Shawn got alot of Top 5 placings against bigger bodybuilders at the O. When Henry goes against bigger guys his placings arent very good and has never placed well at the O
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Better question would be, does he beat David Henry?
yes,henry is great and put a lot of size and effort to be top of 202,but he was a sm middleweight,shawn was a full light heavy in shape at 20!!!!his fullness all around relaxed and flexed would beat henry and legs alone give ray the nod.
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Up till now... a prime shawn>>>>> prime henry
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Those were the days. When bodybuilders actually looked good.
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I prefer Shawn's build but Henry is a monster for sure.
I think Henry has a smaller waist too but is shorter.
If shawn could add more thickness to his back and bring up his arms a little.. then he would be the clear cut winner.
As of right now I don't think anyone can compare to Henry from the back.
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Good back shot of Shawn!
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More more thing... if Shawn was competing today he would be mr. Olympia without a doubt in my book!
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Better question would be, does he beat David Henry?
Yes.
David's lines don't flow as nicely & Ray had better overall proportions & aesthetics...although they're close.
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Better question would be, does he beat David Henry?
NO... not a David Henry in condition... no way. Too much freaky muscle at 202...
Not that it'll ever happen, but I'd like to see the 202 O prize money reach $100,000+, and have Shawn make a comeback (since he said he wouldn't comeback for anything less $-wise).
How about will Lee Priest be able to hang with David Henry (assuming he comes back)?
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Don't ever compare that angry little midget to the great Shawn Ray. Not even close. Henry can't even crack the top 6 for the Mr. O and Shawn has done it every year of his career minus the first time.
Not a valid comparision.
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NO... not a David Henry in condition... no way. Too much freaky muscle at 202...
Not that it'll ever happen, but I'd like to see the 202 O prize money reach $100,000+, and have Shawn make a comeback (since he said he wouldn't comeback for anything less $-wise).
How about will Lee Priest be able to hang with David Henry (assuming he comes back)?
nope. shawn has problems with condition when he goes up. he did one O at 215+ and said he couldnt get his conditioning together. at 202...shawn is fuller than henry. they weight in the day before correct. that means shawn weight in at 202 and contest day he pops back up to 207 or so which is around his regular contest weight. shawn manhandled smaller guys than him his entire career...just the big boys got him.
i wouldnt even call henry the most dominate 202 guy right. he dont lost a lot of shows to lesser guys.
how soon we forget when the good ones are gone?
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/Astud291/ShawnRayorAlien.jpg)
shawn is probably sub-210 on this photo. he still sicker than henry at 205 or so. remember they go up for contest day.
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shawn ouzes class out of every pore, not even close between the too.......... this man dominated nasser on many occasions...
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David Henry better than Shawn Ray? hahahahahahahaha... ::)
Shawn Ray is one of the best of all-time... the guy has beaten Kevin, Nasser, Flex, Coleman etc etc etc... the only guy he didn't beat was Dorian. Another thing is consistency... Ray was extremely consistent... David had a bunch of shows that he placed horribly low at for probably 9 months because he kept coming in soft... Ray had an old-school work ethic, Henry is "doggcrapp".
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David Henry better than Shawn Ray? hahahahahahahaha... ::)
Shawn Ray is one of the best of all-time... the guy has beaten Kevin, Nasser, Flex, Coleman etc etc etc... the only guy he didn't beat robbed him of his O was Dorian. Another thing is consistency... Ray was extremely consistent... David had a bunch of shows that he placed horribly low at for probably 9 months because he kept coming in soft... Ray had an old-school work ethic, Henry is "doggcrapp".
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Bodybuildings biggest sulk, the man who believes he is an uncrowned mr olympia
Standing 5'7 and weighing a meagre 210 lbs with all the drugs flowing through his veins, he didn't even have a normal job, yet could only muster being 200 - 210 on stage with 18 inch arms.
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Don't ever compare that angry little midget to the great Shawn Ray. Not even close. Henry can't even crack the top 6 for the Mr. O and Shawn has done it every year of his career minus the first time.
Not a valid comparision.
agreed
Shawn is absoulete leagues above David Henry
A more accurate comparison should be would Shawn beat Dexter Jackson?
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Bodybuildings biggest sulk, the man who believes he is an uncrowned mr olympia
Standing 5'7 and weighing a meagre 210 lbs with all the drugs flowing through his veins, he didn't even have a normal job, yet could only muster being 200 - 210 on stage with 18 inch arms.
Good post !
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Shawna and Dextrose?
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not a fan of Rays physique then ND?
Good post !
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David Henry better than Shawn Ray? hahahahahahahaha... ::)
Shawn Ray is one of the best of all-time... the guy has beaten Kevin, Nasser, Flex, Coleman etc etc etc... the only guy he didn't beat was Dorian. Another thing is consistency... Ray was extremely consistent... David had a bunch of shows that he placed horribly low at for probably 9 months because he kept coming in soft... Ray had an old-school work ethic, Henry is "doggcrapp".
Old School vs Doggcrap is a stupid debate. Not everyone has the insecurity to think they need 20 sets a BP because they can break it down in very few.
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I think Shawn is the best under 210 lbs ever.
Top 8 in order:
Shawn
Henry
Labrada
Priest
Nubret
Zane
Padilla
Franco
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I think Shawn is the best under 210 lbs ever.
Top 8 in order:
Shawn
Henry
Labrada
Priest
Nubret
Zane
Padilla
Franco
Were is Benizizza (sp?) Def on that list.
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Shawn was one of the best bodybuilders that ever lived.
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It's often been said that Dorian's greatness didn't always get exuded in photos, that you had to see him in person to appreciate how impressive and dense his physique truly was. I believe Shawn is the opposite. Shawn usually looked great in photos, but even on video doesn't look nearly as impressive. Truth be told, he never had a prayer of beating the likes of Haney or Yates. They were in a different league all together.
Shawn had a great career to be sure, and was very consistent, but for a bodybuilder whose goal was allegedly to become Mr. Olympia, he didn't make near significant enough improvements to make such an accomplishment realistic. Genetically, Shawn was outclassed badly by the Wheeler's and Levrone's (and others), and he knew it. Why else would Shawn have resorted to the little games to try throw Flex off of his? The calf implant accusations, etc. For all of Shawn's spouting off, he's insecure and felt he needed to find an edge, even if it meant playing "dirty pool". Not to mention Shawn's constant public carping in the magazines. It was so transparent the way he would always drop comments inferring that his physique should be viewed as the ideal, while at the same time ridiculing the physique's of those that defeated him. How he figured this would win favor with the judging panel, I'll never know.
While I've never met the man, he strikes me as a self serving little two faced backstabber. I suppose those that know him best would have to verify if my impression is truly accurate, or not.
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It's often been said that Dorian's greatness didn't always get exuded in photos
no, this isnt often said.
but its often used as a great excuse from people like you lol :-*
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no, this isnt often said.
but its used as a great excuse from people like you lol
Owning yourself yet again, Huckster. Like I said before, the minute Dorian's name gets mentioned you reach for your zipper and start trolling. "Fap, fap, fap."
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s ray and lee l should have won an o each
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(http://www.mostmuscular.com/newmuscle.cx/shawn_ray/pages/shawn_ray_05.jpg)
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no, this isnt often said.
but its often used as a great excuse from people like you lol :-*
Peter McGough
On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.
Dorian Yates interview bodybuilding.com 2008
Everyone who sees my physique in person always comments on how much better I look in person than in pictures. That's because my physique is thick and developed from all angles. From the front, from the back, from the side, standing on my head: it doesn't matter. Everywhere is fully developed from every angle. And this might not show in one-dimensional photos. When you turn somebody to the side and they are twice as thick as everyone else, then that shows up.
Flex magazine Jan 1992 on Dorian Yates
" Dorian has the type of physique that looks much better and more powerfull in person than photos. I personally saw him onstage , and Yates if definitely light years ahead of the way he looks in photos.
MuscleMag International Feb 1994 on Dorian Yates at the 1993 Mr Olympia
" He's huge , absolutely HUGE ...he's ripped completely RIPPED. And while he's not in possession of the prettiest physique body by a long shot , he's equipped with all the bodyparts you need to win .
Combine this with the fact that he's 10 TIMES more impressive when you see him onstage at the Olympia than he is in pictures or on videos and you got yourself a winner.
John Hotten book " Muscle "
" Chris Cormier standing next to Dorian onstage he sensed ' radiation coming off him , like an aura. ' The power of that muscle was tangible. It exerted a force all of its own. Cormier thought ' I might as well forget about this guy and concentrate on being second. ' There was something else , too , strange. You had to witness him in the flesh. such granite hradness had a property that could nor be held on film or caught on paper. You had to see it live.
Peter McGough Flex Magazine May 2002
Let it be said that the camera can lie at physique contests. Some guys look great onstage but not so great on final film (Dorian Yates, for one) and vice versa (Shawn Ray is an example). Despite that caveat, and despite the fact that these peepers
Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007
The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...
owned , I will kick your ass in ANY thread you follow me into kid ;)
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Owning yourself yet again, Huckster. Like I said before, the minute Dorian's name gets mentioned you reach for your zipper and start trolling. "Fap, fap, fap."
He's a punching bag lol
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It's often been said that Dorian's greatness didn't always get exuded in photos, that you had to see him in person to appreciate how impressive and dense his physique truly was. I believe Shawn is the opposite. Shawn usually looked great in photos, but even on video doesn't look nearly as impressive. Truth be told, he never had a prayer of beating the likes of Haney or Yates. They were in a different league all together.
Shawn had a great career to be sure, and was very consistent, but for a bodybuilder whose goal was allegedly to become Mr. Olympia, he didn't make near significant enough improvements to make such an accomplishment realistic. Genetically, Shawn was outclassed badly by the Wheeler's and Levrone's (and others), and he knew it. Why else would Shawn have resorted to the little games to try throw Flex off of his? The calf implant accusations, etc. For all of Shawn's spouting off, he's insecure and felt he needed to find an edge, even if it meant playing "dirty pool". Not to mention Shawn's constant public carping in the magazines. It was so transparent the way he would always drop comments inferring that his physique should be viewed as the ideal, while at the same time ridiculing the physique's of those that defeated him. How he figured this would win favor with the judging panel, I'll never know.
While I've never met the man, he strikes me as a self serving little two faced backstabber. I suppose those that know him best would have to verify if my impression is truly accurate, or not.
Totally agree, he would always argue about rotating the judges to benefit the sport but it was only for his own benefit, that maybe different judges would put him in first. I thought the opposite could happen being he was smaller, he could have ended up in 10th.
After the 1998 Mr.O he said on Ronnie winning that they were only rewarding the most improved bodybuilder, not the best. LOL
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Peter McGough
On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.
Dorian Yates interview bodybuilding.com 2008
Everyone who sees my physique in person always comments on how much better I look in person than in pictures. That's because my physique is thick and developed from all angles. From the front, from the back, from the side, standing on my head: it doesn't matter. Everywhere is fully developed from every angle. And this might not show in one-dimensional photos. When you turn somebody to the side and they are twice as thick as everyone else, then that shows up.
Flex magazine Jan 1992 on Dorian Yates
" Dorian has the type of physique that looks much better and more powerfull in person than photos. I personally saw him onstage , and Yates if definitely light years ahead of the way he looks in photos.
MuscleMag International Feb 1994 on Dorian Yates at the 1993 Mr Olympia
" He's huge , absolutely HUGE ...he's ripped completely RIPPED. And while he's not in possession of the prettiest physique body by a long shot , he's equipped with all the bodyparts you need to win .
Combine this with the fact that he's 10 TIMES more impressive when you see him onstage at the Olympia than he is in pictures or on videos and you got yourself a winner.
John Hotten book " Muscle "
" Chris Cormier standing next to Dorian onstage he sensed ' radiation coming off him , like an aura. ' The power of that muscle was tangible. It exerted a force all of its own. Cormier thought ' I might as well forget about this guy and concentrate on being second. ' There was something else , too , strange. You had to witness him in the flesh. such granite hradness had a property that could nor be held on film or caught on paper. You had to see it live.
Peter McGough Flex Magazine May 2002
Let it be said that the camera can lie at physique contests. Some guys look great onstage but not so great on final film (Dorian Yates, for one) and vice versa (Shawn Ray is an example). Despite that caveat, and despite the fact that these peepers
Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007
The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...
owned , I will kick your ass in ANY thread you follow me into kid ;)
That right there, is an owning!
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Totally agree, he would always argue about rotating the judges to benefit the sport but it was only for his own benefit, that maybe different judges would put him in first. I thought the opposite could happen being he was smaller, he could have ended up in 10th.
After the 1998 Mr.O he said on Ronnie winning that they were only rewarding the most improved bodybuilder, not the best. LOL
Spot on.
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That right there, is an owning!
The kid is an idiot and now that I just handed him his ass he'll be even more determined to try and equal the score all the while digging himself into a bigger hole . I will continue to expose this kid for the insanely stupid biased troll he is
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Totally agree, he would always argue about rotating the judges to benefit the sport but it was only for his own benefit, that maybe different judges would put him in first. I thought the opposite could happen being he was smaller, he could have ended up in 10th.
After the 1998 Mr.O he said on Ronnie winning that they were only rewarding the most improved bodybuilder, not the best. LOL
Ronnie Coleman was the most improved bodybuilder , and they should have an award for that but it SHOULDN'T be the overall title. Ronnie Coleman won the Mr Olympia for making the most improvement.
Ronnie does NOT have the complete physique. He has a certain degree of shape and detail but , let's be honest , he has a lot of weaknesses : calves , hamstrings , midsection. He has flaws on his physique that you just can't find on my physique or Flex Wheeler's physique.
;D
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Bodybuildings biggest sulk, the man who believes he is an uncrowned mr olympia. Standing 5'7 and weighing a meagre 210 lbs with all the drugs flowing through his veins, he didn't even have a normal job, yet could only muster being 200 - 210 on stage with 18 inch arms.
Shawn Ray was in the top 5 in 13 Mr. Olympias in a row, a few times runner up at the O, and yes, there are some who beleive Shawn was robbed of being Mr. Olympia once. Who cares on his weight, it all matters how he looked on stage.
Better question would be, does he beat David Henry?
David Henry, at his best in the 202lbs contest, mustered only 13th place at the Mr. Olympia. Shawn Ray dominated everyone except a few at the Olympia. There is no contest.
Shawn Ray may be loud, brash, and quite entertaining, but as a bodybuilder, for those 13 years, he was one of the best.
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In Iming Lonnie Teper, he said
"David Henry is a terrific bodybuilder, but Shawn Ray finished second, twice, in the Mr. Olympia when the line-up was filled with people named Yates, Coleman, Wheeler, Levrone, El Sonbaty, Cormier, Priest, et al...'nuff said."
"I've certainly had a love-hate relationship with Shawn over our careers, but anybody who has remotely followed the game knows he's one of the greatest physiques of all time... AND, to this day, remains the youngest NPC Overall champion ever, winning it in 1987 just a month after his 22nd birthday"
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dexter would smoke shawn ray. Probably has 25 - 30 lbs on him
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How could shawn ever believe he could have beaten guys who have 50 + lbs of muscle on him. He looks good alone, But next to yates or coleman he looks like a child
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you are one lost son of a bitch........size size size......is that what you think the sport is about??????
shawn ray is one of the most consistent bbers ever!!!!!!!! he had bigger arms than 18 inches by the way!!!!!
shawn should have 2 maybe 3 sandows.....he was robbed on several occasions!!!!!
look at the physique not the weight of the bber!!!
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How could shawn ever believe he could have beaten guys who have 50 + lbs of muscle on him. He looks good alone, But next to yates or coleman he looks like a child
Uh... he beat these guys, including
Dexter Jackson
Nasser El Sonbaty
Dennis James
Orville Burke
Chris Cormier
Markus Ruhl
and this is just in 2001...
Remember, he was top five in 13 years at the O.
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(http://www.mostmuscular.com/newmuscle.cx/shawn_ray/pages/shawn_ray_05.jpg)
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after looking at bbers like ronnie and melvin guest posing pics these days..... this pic ain't that bad anymore. It actually looks decent for a guest pose. :P
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nope. shawn has problems with condition when he goes up. he did one O at 215+ and said he couldnt get his conditioning together. at 202...shawn is fuller than henry. they weight in the day before correct. that means shawn weight in at 202 and contest day he pops back up to 207 or so which is around his regular contest weight. shawn manhandled smaller guys than him his entire career...just the big boys got him.
i wouldnt even call henry the most dominate 202 guy right. he dont lost a lot of shows to lesser guys.
how soon we forget when the good ones are gone?
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/Astud291/ShawnRayorAlien.jpg)
shawn is probably sub-210 on this photo. he still sicker than henry at 205 or so. remember they go up for contest day.
but labrada beat him a lot of times.. shawn beat him only in 1993..
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David Henry better than Shawn Ray? hahahahahahahaha... ::)
Shawn Ray is one of the best of all-time... the guy has beaten Kevin, Nasser, Flex, Coleman etc etc etc... the only guy he didn't beat was Dorian. Another thing is consistency... Ray was extremely consistent... David had a bunch of shows that he placed horribly low at for probably 9 months because he kept coming in soft... Ray had an old-school work ethic, Henry is "doggcrapp".
dorian & lee haney..
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I think Shawn is the best under 210 lbs ever.
Top 8 in order:
Shawn
Henry
Labrada
Priest
Nubret
Zane
Padilla
Franco
was mohamed benaziza above 210 pounds?
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dexter would smoke shawn ray. Probably has 25 - 30 lbs on him
No, he wouldn't, he never did when they competed against each other.
Dexter is the "POOR MAN'S SHAWN RAY!!"
Ray was one of the greatest, much better than Henry, how can they even be compared. In that era, you got Nasser, Dorian, Levrone, Wheeler, Ronnie, Cormier, Priest, etc... VERY VERY Tough, who do you have now??? Only a handful of guys at best. No comparison.
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beautiful! a work of art
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If you look at Shawn's legs, you could tell, he had to keep them in check. Shawn coul easily have been 235 (there was some interview of him talking about being that, and him saying he would lose his lines)- which I agree he would. I think that he did need bigger arms, but his whole body flowed, and he wasn't a mass monster...And he had the athletic look.
His Countdown video, where for the 1998 Mr. O he was 215, he looked excellent, condition was spot on.
No way would Henry smoke him, Dex is toss up, but I think all Shawn would have to do is Front double bi with a vacuum which kill dex, because all the guys on stage can't pull that off today-not even Melvin A.
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If you look at Shawn's legs, you could tell, he had to keep them in check. Shawn coul easily have been 235 (there was some interview of him talking about being that, and him saying he would lose his lines)- which I agree he would. I think that he did need bigger arms, but his whole body flowed, and he wasn't a mass monster...And he had the athletic look.
His Countdown video, where for the 1998 Mr. O he was 215, he looked excellent, condition was spot on.
No way would Henry smoke him, Dex is toss up, but I think all Shawn would have to do is Front double bi with a vacuum which kill dex, because all the guys on stage can't pull that off today-not even Melvin A.
Shawn, imo, was a complete bodybuilder from head to toe, sure you might point out some weaknesses, but the man's structure, condition, was spot on. He had great quads, calves, chest, back, everything. Dexter has no calves, weird looking torso, gut, etc... Aside from being short, Shawn is one thick looking dude, Dexter not so much, if both didn't work out I would assume Shawn would still be bigger, and Dexter, just a skinny twink, 135 Ibs or so.
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Shawn, imo, was a complete bodybuilder from head to toe, sure you might point out some weaknesses, but the man's structure, condition, was spot on. He had great quads, calves, chest, back, everything. Dexter has no calves, weird looking torso, gut, etc... Aside from being short, Shawn is one thick looking dude, Dexter not so much, if both didn't work out I would assume Shawn would still be bigger, and Dexter, just a skinny twink, 135 Ibs or so.
Alq Gurley called Shwan, Mr. Bodybuilding...
This shows that Shawn was a complete as you said head to toe...Plus he would training his butt off, most couldn't keep up. He trained Felx for the 1997 Arnold, and Flex won, of course...
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Alq Gurley called Shwan, Mr. Bodybuilding...
This shows that Shawn was a complete as you said head to toe...Plus he would training his butt off, most couldn't keep up. He trained Felx for the 1997 Arnold, and Flex won, of course...
Exactly, the good ol powerhouse gym in fullerton before it was golds' and then Milos'. Shawn's work ethic was second to none, I've seen him train back in the day when I was just getting into bbing and living back at home in LA. That was around 2000 and 2001, Shawn's last years competing. He was always cool as far as I remember.
Shawn is what bodybuilding was about, don't know if he did the insulin or anything, but I remember him stating he was old school in terms of "drug usage." Anyhow, his genetics alone should tell the story.
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Exactly, the good ol powerhouse gym in fullerton before it was golds' and then Milos'. Shawn's work ethic was second to none, I've seen him train back in the day when I was just getting into bbing and living back at home in LA. That was around 2000 and 2001, Shawn's last years competing. He was always cool as far as I remember.
Shawn is what bodybuilding was about, don't know if he did the insulin or anything, but I remember him stating he was old school in terms of "drug usage." Anyhow, his genetics alone should tell the story.
I beleive he trained his calves with high reps and not that much weight as well...And trained them with the same intensity and concentration that he used for other bodyparts.
I still think he Final Countdown is The Definitive video that breaks down the prep for a show...
As far as his old school methods of drugs, I also believe that is why he had such longevity,a nd also why he never was 235, he wsn't chasing the Monsters, like Flex eventually did, although, I thik that cost Shawn a Mr. O title, and conversely because Flex chased, that cost him a title.
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I beleive he trained his calves with high reps and not that much weight as well...And trained them with the same intensity and concentration that he used for other bodyparts.
I still think he Final Countdown is The Definitive video that breaks down the prep for a show...
As far as his old school methods of drugs, I also believe that is why he had such longevity,a nd also why he never was 235, he wsn't chasing the Monsters, like Flex eventually did, although, I thik that cost Shawn a Mr. O title, and conversely because Flex chased, that cost him a title.
He did actually train his calves with high reps, you're right. As far as his body weight goes, Shawn was a STRONG dude. For his size, even a couple weeks out from shows, he was always lifting heavy, and doing crazy drop sets like the "final Countdown," vid. He actually trains like that, not just on video.
During those times, Melvin was an up and coming bodybuilder who just won Mr California not too long ago I believe. Of course you have the venice scene, but Shawn didn't really train out there too much, he was an a OC guy, so that 's why I would see him a lot. Definitely some good times, feels like yesterday, lol! Now, I see Branch and Johnnie occassionally at the gym if I choose to go to Metroflex, haha. I miss the SoCal scene.
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He did actually train his calves with high reps, you're right.
The reason why I said he trains his cavles with high reps, because when I went to a Orioles game back in the day, I saw a black guy with huge cut calves (and they were high)...I asked him what he did, and he said, they got that way from running up and down the stairs in the staduim...just high reps...
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=294418.0;attach=334644;image)
one of the all time greats.
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no matter what you think of shawn ray as an individual...........you cannot argue about him as a bodybuilder.........one of the all time complete and consistent physiques.............de xter jackson and david henry are bush league compared to Ray............his height was the only things that held him back from getting at least one sandow.
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no matter what you think of shawn ray as an individual...........you cannot argue about him as a bodybuilder.........one of the all time complete and consistent physiques.............de xter jackson and david henry are bush league compared to Ray............his height was the only things that held him back from getting at least one sandow.
Indeed, you could say Shawn was the Mickey Rooney of bodybuilding.
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what is that in the bottom?!! ;D ;D
(http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2009/1/28/14/man-looks-like-thumb-6325-1233172135-12.jpg)
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I just watched Shawn Ray inside and out and got a huge headache from him talking so much.
Video would have been so much better if they just showed his training and if they showed him train ALL bodyparts not just quads, back, abs and chest.
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I just watched Shawn Ray inside and out and got a huge headache from him talking so much.
Video would have been so much better if they just showed his training and if they showed him train ALL bodyparts not just quads, back, abs and chest.
I do agree that he spoke a little too much in that video.... but nevertheless he spoke well and went indepth in certain stuff. Could have shot more training scenes though.