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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: LMV on August 19, 2009, 02:50:59 AM
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Queen street academy. ;D BJ wasn't with Ralph for longer than two years. He left Ralph and went with Dede Pedeneiras a little shy of two years. Won the Mundials in his third year. Ralph is a real upstanding guy...... The video of him attacking a on crutches Bobby Southworth at a BJJ tourney is just an example. Read Dave Camarillo's book.
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I really cant stand any of the Gracie's- They all seem like douchebag ego maniacs that care more about preserving the Gracie name and propping up BJJ than showing honor or integrity.
I hate BJ, but I think I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt here. I'm sure it chaps the Gracie's asses that an American who practiced BJJ for like 3 years was able to win the world championship and is considered the best BJJ practitioner in MMA.
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I am sure I have known the Gracies (well some of them) longer than anyone on here (at least 99.9%). They are very proud of their family and name even with all the inter-family fueding that goes on. One of my old best friends got on the bad side of them after making a million+ dollars off what he learned and they hate his guts. At least they did, not sure bout now
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I am sure I have known the Gracies (well some of them) longer than anyone on here (at least 99.9%). They are very proud of their family and name even with all the inter-family fueding that goes on. One of my old best friends got on the bad side of them after making a million+ dollars off what he learned and they hate his guts. At least they did, not sure bout now
They seem to hate everybody's guts, never seen a family more full of hate and angst then those guys...even Royce in the first few UFC's would just have this nasty look at his face like he hates the world and everybody in it, honestly I don't know what their problem is or what the chip on their shoulder is.
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They seem to hate everybody's guts, never seen a family more full of hate and angst then those guys...even Royce in the first few UFC's would just have this nasty look at his face like he hates the world and everybody in it, honestly I don't know what their problem is or what the chip on their shoulder is.
Actually Royce is really nice (at least around me). He is always smiling. I do know he would get very psyche up because the family put alot of pressure on him to win. he did not want to embarrass himself, family or dad. It is a very strange family and the competition and loathing for each other is amazing. It might be better now but back when Rorian decided to play power-trip and trademark the Gracie name and charge his own family to use it everything within the family went crazy.
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Actually Royce is really nice (at least around me). He is always smiling. I do know he would get very psyche up because the family put alot of pressure on him to win. he did not want to embarrass himself, family or dad. It is a very strange family and the competition and loathing for each other is amazing. It might be better now but back when Rorian decided to play power-trip and trademark the Gracie name and charge his own family to use it everything within the family went crazy.
Hahaha...holy shit, he pulled a Lou Ferigno !?!?! that's fucking cold man... either way, I think they are overrated... jiu jitsu was always a good art, the brazillians may have adapted some techniques in it for their purposes but it was always a good art with a lot of variety. (I'm talking about Japanese Jiu Jitsu)
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Hahaha...holy shit, he pulled a Lou Ferigno !?!?! that's fucking cold man... either way, I think they are overrated... jiu jitsu was always a good art, the brazillians may have adapted some techniques in it for their purposes but it was always a good art with a lot of variety. (I'm talking about Japanese Jiu Jitsu)
That is why there is a distinct split amongst Helios son's. Rickson operates his own association, Rorion has the Gracie Academy, Relson has Relson Gracie Jiujitsu, Royler runs Humaita, etc. Brazo politics at it's finest. Don't get me started on how Carlos side of the family feels about Rorion and his trademark.
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Japanese Jiu Jitsu is just as good, if not better than BJJ imo. You dont see many guys practice it in MMA though. The story goes that when Gracie Sr. started his program, the father of modern Japanse Jiu Jitsu ( whose name I cant remember) flew into Brazil to fight him. The Japanese guy destroyed Gracie in 3 untimed matches-- Actually breaking his arm I think.
The reason I like jap jiu jitsu more is that its not as one dimensonal as BJJ- Judo throws, pins and techniques are highlighted just as much as the ground game. All the BJJ stuff I see is two guys automatically taking the mat and then dry humping eachother on the ground.
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Japanese Jiu Jitsu is just as good, if not better than BJJ imo. You dont see many guys practice it in MMA though. The story goes that when Gracie Sr. started his program, the father of modern Japanse Jiu Jitsu ( whose name I cant remember) flew into Brazil to fight him. The Japanese guy destroyed Gracie in 3 untimed matches-- Actually breaking his arm I think.
The guy's name was Kimura if im not mistaken.
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The guy's name was Kimura if im not mistaken.
yeah, Kimura broke Helio´s arm exactly with the 'kimura' wich got his name after this fight...After this, Helio developed his version of jiu jitsu wich now is know as Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
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Japanese Jiu Jitsu is just as good, if not better than BJJ imo. You dont see many guys practice it in MMA though. The story goes that when Gracie Sr. started his program, the father of modern Japanse Jiu Jitsu ( whose name I cant remember) flew into Brazil to fight him. The Japanese guy destroyed Gracie in 3 untimed matches-- Actually breaking his arm I think.
The reason I like jap jiu jitsu more is that its not as one dimensonal as BJJ- Judo throws, pins and techniques are highlighted just as much as the ground game. All the BJJ stuff I see is two guys automatically taking the mat and then dry humping eachother on the ground.
Uh, yeah....
We cross train with a local Kodekan JJ school. They send their blackbelts over to train with us, because, as they opine, their Ne Waza is limited. We have white belts tap their black belts on the mat. We also train with a couple of Judo schools, including Taylor Takata. When we do judo with them, we all get frequent flyer miles. Taylor is also a purple in BJJ......Kimura was a top student of Jigoro Kano, the founder of Judo. That would make Kimura a JUDOKA.
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Interesting read on BJ Penn:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/all-newer-fans-why-bj-so-respected-585130/ (http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/all-newer-fans-why-bj-so-respected-585130/)
I haven't studied Penn much yet, but was at his UFC debut in Atlantic City in '01. He had some accomplishments by then but I was not aware of them.
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Uh, yeah....
We cross train with a local Kodekan JJ school. They send their blackbelts over to train with us, because, as they opine, their Ne Waza is limited. We have white belts tap their black belts on the mat. We also train with a couple of Judo schools, including Taylor Takata. When we do judo with them, we all get frequent flyer miles. Taylor is also a purple in BJJ......Kimura was a top student of Jigoro Kano, the founder of Judo. That would make Kimura a JUDOKA.
My school practices Goshin Jiu Jitsu- which as far as I know is one of the only schools on the east coast that does so. It's an equal mix of Judo and Jiu Jitsu split down the middle and every belt requirement forces students to master both at the same time. The problem I have with BJJ is that most of its practicioners think that its the best or only way to grapple, and its very one dimensonal. If you cant throw or pin your opponent, what good is having 900 different joint locks and all kinds of crazy holds? Dont get me wrong, obviously BJJ is a legit martial art and an effective way to fight- I just feel that many of its adherents are very arrogant and at the same time, very limited in their abilities.
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Uh, yeah....
We cross train with a local Kodekan JJ school. They send their blackbelts over to train with us, because, as they opine, their Ne Waza is limited. We have white belts tap their black belts on the mat. We also train with a couple of Judo schools, including Taylor Takata. When we do judo with them, we all get frequent flyer miles. Taylor is also a purple in BJJ......Kimura was a top student of Jigoro Kano, the founder of Judo. That would make Kimura a JUDOKA.
Uh huh...next you'll be telling me about santa claus or the tooth fairy..
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I remember when I was taking it for the limited time I did with Rorian in his garage. That was where there original training area was. The walls and floor were covered with shitty old wrestling mats and he would teach one on one for $20 an hour. We used to wear different things to train in including suits, shorts, tank tops, no shirt, boots, tennis shoes, bare foot, jackets, or whatever else you had. The idea was you had to know how to defend yourself in whatever situation you were in and many times you might be wearing something that restricts you or made it awkward to fight. Pretty neat. Do they still do that? And afterwards you would go in the house and eat bananas cooked all kinds of ways.
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Uh huh...next you'll be telling me about santa claus or the tooth fairy..
Anytime you are in Hawaii, big guy, drop me a line. I will make shure we got a line of white belts waiting for you. ;)
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My school practices Goshin Jiu Jitsu- which as far as I know is one of the only schools on the east coast that does so. It's an equal mix of Judo and Jiu Jitsu split down the middle and every belt requirement forces students to master both at the same time. The problem I have with BJJ is that most of its practicioners think that its the best or only way to grapple, and its very one dimensonal. If you cant throw or pin your opponent, what good is having 900 different joint locks and all kinds of crazy holds? Dont get me wrong, obviously BJJ is a legit martial art and an effective way to fight- I just feel that many of its adherents are very arrogant and at the same time, very limited in their abilities.
Humaita method is to secure the takedown, establish top control (with strikes for self defense), pressure to obtain the submission or finish with strikes. Sport BJJ isn't the self defense aspect of the art. Many stories, and seen first hand accounts of BJJ's effectiveness here in Hawaii. Relson is a known partier, and streetfighter.
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i trained with a guy for a couple months who only practiced old school japanese jj, that was quite an experiance and imo was much more lethal then the bjj alot of schools teach today, im sure its cause alot of them only teach sport bjj in america.
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Anytime you are in Hawaii, big guy, drop me a line. I will make shure we got a line of white belts waiting for you. ;)
Sounds good, as long as it's open sparring... my background is muay thai/sambo/boxing I've barely fucked around with jj let alone bjj, I think it's grossly overrated. Striking is still the most important part of the fight game,hopefully all your boys aren't like Leites and just drop back every 5 seconds and trry to pull guard.
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Sounds good, as long as it's open sparring... my background is muay thai/sambo/boxing I've barely fucked around with jj let alone bjj, I think it's grossly overrated. Striking is still the most important part of the fight game,hopefully all your boys aren't like Leites and just drop back every 5 seconds and trry to pull guard.
We have more "strikers" than grapplers. Most of the white belts are kickboxers who want to round out their games, and have come to us. So we can easily accomodate you.
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We have more "strikers" than grapplers. Most of the white belts are kickboxers who want to round out their games, and have come to us. So we can easily accomodate you.
Awesome! :) I might be going there for my honeymoon next sept. will keep ya posted.
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Awesome! :) I might be going there for my honeymoon next sept. will keep ya posted.
Won't happen.
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Won't happen.
I have shown the good Captains remarks to a ton of folks. There will be plenty of takers when he visits.
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Won't happen.
go on a diet ...
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go on a diet ...
Already am. But, will you have the balls to show up in Hawaii. Doubt it. Actually definitey you won't show up. But, but at least you pretended you would. Also, up your dosage, for someone who is taking shit you don't look like much. You do know you have to lift too right?
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Already am. But, will you have the balls to show up in Hawaii. Doubt it. Actually definitey you won't show up. But, but at least you pretended you would. Also, up your dosage, for someone who is taking shit you don't look like much. You do know you have to lift too right?
LOL, we can't all be 300 lb bloated sacks of shit like you running on enanthate and dbol all year, you are the same weight as 4 average Getbiggers combined you fat old man, when's the last time you saw your cock? when you were 12?
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LOL, we can't all be 300 lb bloated sacks of shit like you running on enanthate and dbol all year, you are the same weight as 4 average Getbiggers combined you fat old man, when's the last time you saw your cock? when you were 12?
hahahaha dude you are laughable. First you bullshit about some chic you went to school then you post up pics of you smooth as butter with about as much muscle as Goodrum and you brag about taking steroids. If there ever was a loser you got it. You are the type of guy we laugh at when you walk in a gym. Keep trying but pretty sure you will go nowhere. you have nothing going for you. Opps sorry you have Getbig where you can pretend to be whatever you want. Just like you do. :D :D :D
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Sounds good, as long as it's open sparring... my background is muay thai/sambo/boxing I've barely fucked around with jj let alone bjj, I think it's grossly overrated. Striking is still the most important part of the fight game,hopefully all your boys aren't like Leites and just drop back every 5 seconds and trry to pull guard.
I'm no bjj groupie (though I possess a blue belt), but you sound like just the type of cocky "striker" who gets choked/tapped out multiple times by white belts the first time they step into a grappling school. ;D
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I'm no bjj groupie (though I possess a blue belt), but you sound like just the type of cocky "striker" who gets choked/tapped out multiple times by white belts the first time they step into a grappling school. ;D
That quote is on the bulletin board of our academy. The Captains honeymoon will be an adventure.
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hahahaha dude you are laughable. First you bullshit about some chic you went to school then you post up pics of you smooth as butter with about as much muscle as Goodrum and you brag about taking steroids. If there ever was a loser you got it. You are the type of guy we laugh at when you walk in a gym. Keep trying but pretty sure you will go nowhere. you have nothing going for you. Opps sorry you have Getbig where you can pretend to be whatever you want. Just like you do. :D :D :D
Hahaha...yea like you right dude, 700 lb. obese whale living on doughnuts and french fries, I'm surprised you're still alive, calling me soft?! lol @ 11% bf? , go ahead post a CURRENT (not from 1985) pics of YOURSELF, and let Getbig be the judge... I dare you pussy... take a camera right now and take a pic and post it, you will get laughed off the board, at least I have muscle. What do you have ? a 76" waist size ? you took steroids too so STFU humpty dumpty.
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Hahaha...yea like you right dude, 700 lb. obese whale living on doughnuts and french fries, I'm surprised you're still alive, calling me soft?! lol @ 11% bf? , go ahead post a CURRENT (not from 1985) pics of YOURSELF, and let Getbig be the judge... I dare you pussy... take a camera right now and take a pic and post it, you will get laughed off the board, at least I have muscle. What do you have ? a 76" waist size ? you took steroids too so STFU humpty dumpty.
hahahahaahah 11% my fat ass you dipshit. You are a soft little punk who gets laughed at daily. Dude you are making me laugh so fucking hard right now. I love little punks like you. How old are you? I will post pics of when I was your age. You would be sniffing my ass after a good runny shit when I was your age. Even at my age I am stronger than you. Dude quite embarassing yourself. I was going to give you balls for posting that pics but I think you did it cause you are just really stupid. Hey here is some advice twinky...don't go to Hawaii cause you will be spending more time there than you planned cause you will end up in the hospital and don't post anymore pic. That might do something for you on one of those gay boards you go to but here it doesn't work.
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Oh hey is there any other porn chic or someone else you going to lie about going to school with or worked at Mcdonalds with. Please post up some more of those great photos. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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"Hawai'a has the highest precentage of skilled fighters of anywhere I have ever been. No where else is close."
This is a direct quote from Kirir Jenness, owner of MMA.tv. Little does the good Captain know, but we share our academy with a stand up facility that is home to USA boxing and a muay thai team. There will be plenty of opportunitys to "free spar." As you know, Keith, BJ is a demi god. Five guys from there team fought on his MMA card on Thursday (4 wins, one draw, it was amateur MMA). When they saw the comments about BJ, there were more than happy to volunteer for the honeymoon adventure.
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"Hawai'a has the highest precentage of skilled fighters of anywhere I have ever been. No where else is close."
This is a direct quote from Kirir Jenness, owner of MMA.tv. Little does the good Captain know, but we share our academy with a stand up facility that is home to USA boxing and a muay thai team. There will be plenty of opportunitys to "free spar." As you know, Keith, BJ is a demi god. Five guys from there team fought on his MMA card on Thursday (4 wins, one draw, it was amateur MMA). When they saw the comments about BJ, there were more than happy to volunteer for the honeymoon adventure.
I highly doubt this guy even has the money to come to Hawaii, and definitely doesn't have the balls to roll with anyone in Hawaii. I just play with kids like him. Hoping to be back for good next August. Will be there for 3 to 4 weeks around Christmas. House sitting for Gina in Portlock. We can get together when I am there