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Title: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: musclecenter on August 19, 2009, 10:53:46 PM
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'Don't count me out !'
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Signifying Monkey on August 19, 2009, 10:54:34 PM
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'Don't count me out !'

6th at best
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: kiwiol on August 19, 2009, 10:55:53 PM
Looks smaller than ever and the fact that he's not showing his legs isn't a good sign.

If everyone steps on stage fully dialed in, no way could Vic beat Dex or Phil or Kai or even Jay.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Signifying Monkey on August 19, 2009, 10:57:00 PM
Looks smaller than ever and the fact that he's not showing his legs isn't a good sign.

If everyone steps on stage fully dialed in, no way could Vic beat Dex or Phil or Kai or even Jay.

or, 6th at best

someone needs to learn the value of brevity
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: disturbia on August 19, 2009, 10:57:04 PM
yeesh what happened to him?
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Signifying Monkey on August 19, 2009, 10:57:40 PM
yeesh what happened to him?

life
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: 240 is Back on August 19, 2009, 10:58:23 PM
yeah, I hate to say it, but what can Vic do in 2009 that he didn't do in 2006?

kai and heath are gonna be lifetime best and look like new guys up there.  Dexter has more motivation than ever to come in shredded. Even cutler, who is claiming to be 280, looks scaled down.  Gonna be 5 or 6 ripped guys up there, absolutely shredded... then you'll have a big wolf and big vic.  Not sure they'll crack top 3.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: musclecenter on August 19, 2009, 11:01:14 PM
His placement at Mr.O 09 depends on his legs ;)
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: dyslexic on August 19, 2009, 11:01:33 PM
He must be gettin' tired.


Maybe he just wants to live to be an old man...
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Signifying Monkey on August 19, 2009, 11:01:49 PM
His placement at Mr.O 09 depends his legs ;)

and jesus, don't forget
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: kiwiol on August 19, 2009, 11:02:08 PM
or, 6th at best

someone needs to learn the value of brevity

Yes, Wolf and perhaps Toney Freeman or God forbid even Silvio can beat Vic if he comes off or his legs aren't too good.

Although Vic could also beat a couple of the guys from the top 5 if he came in razor sharp and they didn't, I suppose. He missed his chance in 2007, through no fault of his own.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: TechnoViking on August 19, 2009, 11:10:14 PM
Unless he has the kevin Levrone ability to gain weight in the weeks leading up to the Olympia, he will be out of the top 3 for sure...However it is the Olympia, and when they all turn around, he will have the best back on the stage...No doubt about it...
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: TechnoViking on August 19, 2009, 11:13:11 PM
The conspiracy side of me wants to say that Vic was payed off to take the year off so Phil could side into place...Everyone knows Vic is knee deep in the NWO(Arnold/Weider/Jewish/ bullshit now...
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Mobil on August 19, 2009, 11:14:09 PM
narrowwwwwwwww....
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Signifying Monkey on August 19, 2009, 11:17:10 PM
The conspiracy side of me wants to say that Vic was payed off to take the year off so Phil could side into place...Everyone knows Vic is knee deep in the NWO(Arnold/Weider/Jewish/ bullshit now...

I heard the NWO moved fixing the 2009 Mr. Olympia to the top of its agenda this year.  It is now even higher priority than destabilizing Russia
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Wiggs on August 19, 2009, 11:20:24 PM
In 4th place.....
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: TechnoViking on August 19, 2009, 11:21:16 PM
I heard the NWO moved fixing the 2009 Mr. Olympia to the top of its agenda this year.  It is now even higher priority than destabilizing Russia

Yes and Sergay is going to get the Russian funding to compete now...
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: TechnoViking on August 19, 2009, 11:23:11 PM
I heard the NWO moved fixing the 2009 Mr. Olympia to the top of its agenda this year.  It is now even higher priority than destabilizing Russia

Just remember how powerful the Weider brand truly is...So far they gave a Nazi(Arnold) total control over the Hollywood Elite(who basically controls the earth)
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Signifying Monkey on August 19, 2009, 11:25:12 PM
Just remember how powerful the Weider brand truly is...So far they gave a Nazi(Arnold) total control over the Hollywood Elite(who basically controls the earth)

How come they didn't do anything for Chick but pack him off to Florida with the other geezers?
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: TechnoViking on August 19, 2009, 11:32:32 PM
How come they didn't do anything for Chick but pack him off to Florida with the other geezers?

I believe if truth be told, Chick married into a rich Jewish family...Rumor has it that the wive side has been extremely upset for some time about a wop marrying into money...Lets face it, Chicks chick isn't bad looking but this guy has had some of the most top notch pussy in the state of Cali...Bottom line is this guy married into some money...
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Signifying Monkey on August 19, 2009, 11:42:48 PM
I believe if truth be told, Chick married into a rich Jewish family...Rumor has it that the wive side has been extremely upset for some time about a wop marrying into money...Lets face it, Chicks chick isn't bad looking but this guy has had some of the most top notch pussy in the state of Cali...Bottom line is this guy married into some money...

so basically youre saying the Weiders gave Arnold the world and Chick a so-so looking chick whose parents may or may not have money. interesting

BTW, while we're on the subect, what's top-notch pussy? chick slept with robin wright penn?
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: TechnoViking on August 19, 2009, 11:50:11 PM
so basically youre saying the Weiders gave Arnold the world and Chick a so-so looking chick whose parents may or may not have money. interesting

BTW, while we're on the subect, what's top-notch pussy? chick slept with robin wright penn?

Arnold had a 5th grade education when he came over....Just saying...Do you honestly think Chick's chick is a top notch piece of ass?  No offense to chick and his wife but lets be real hear...Chick has banged some of the finest whores on the planet we call earth and(no offense to chick) his wife with money isn't one of them....but maybe it was her age(intellect) that sealed the deal :-\
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Signifying Monkey on August 19, 2009, 11:54:57 PM
Arnold had a 5th grade education when he came over....Just saying...Do you honestly think Chick's chick is a top notch piece of ass?  No offense to chick and his wife but lets be real hear...Chick has banged some of the finest whores on the planet we call earth and(no offense to chick) his wife with money isn't one of them.... :-\

interesting. who are some of these women you keep mentioning?

also, are you suggesting tha Arnold with a 5th grade education had more to offer than Chick with his whatever education? (4th grade?)
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: TechnoViking on August 20, 2009, 12:08:05 AM
interesting. who are some of these women you keep mentioning?

You sound like a guy who wants to get  right square in the middle of a Chick debate...Are you saying Chick was a virgin before he married this girl? Why all the horse shit...Chick has banged a boat load of women and everyone knows this...The wife's family he married supposedly had some money...Big fucking deal right? However I'm just bringing it up...The only ones who think its a big deal is the ones who want to crush it(which shouldn't be anyone on the planet earth because who the fuck cares right?)

Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Signifying Monkey on August 20, 2009, 12:15:17 AM
You sound like a guy who wants to get  right square in the middle of a Chick debate...Are you saying Chick was a virgin before he married this girl? Why all the horse shit...Chick has banged a boat load of women and everyone knows this...The wife's family he married supposedly had some money...Big fucking deal right? However I'm just bringing it up...The only ones who think its a big deal is the ones who want to crush it(which shouldn't be anyone on the planet earth because who the fuck cares right?)



Let me assure you that I have no interest in a debate. You opened my eyes to some things and I'm just trying to get more information. 

First I want to know what Arnold had that Chick didnt?

Second i don't know anything about the women Chick's been with and i'm just trying to figure out if he was indeed the pulling machine you make him out to be

no harm, no foul
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: nzmusclemonster on August 20, 2009, 12:34:22 AM
Looks like Ron Love will be Mr Olympia.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: MethodGNA on August 20, 2009, 12:41:25 AM
I heard the NWO moved fixing the 2009 Mr. Olympia to the top of its agenda this year.  It is now even higher priority than destabilizing Russia

LOL.......... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Meso_z on August 20, 2009, 12:54:14 AM
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'Don't count me out !'

looks smaller than before and whats up with the bruise on hisleft pec? or is it me?
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Matt C on August 20, 2009, 12:56:53 AM
Looks smaller than usual but didn't his sister turn up dead recently?  Maybe he is depressed over that and unable to eat and train with his full focus.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: 11venthhour on August 20, 2009, 01:24:31 AM
Looks smaller than usual but didn't his sister turn up dead recently?  Maybe he is depressed over that and unable to eat and train with his full focus.

less than a month ago.

maybe he is trying to come in leaner to compete with dex and kai and is cutting to hard?
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: webcake on August 20, 2009, 01:26:29 AM
Vic looking smaller, Jay looking smaller...........more emphasis on conditioning this year?

Wolf will kill them anyway with incredible size and great conditioning.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: 11venthhour on August 20, 2009, 01:29:06 AM
Vic looking smaller, Jay looking smaller...........more emphasis on conditioning this year?

Wolf will kill them anyway with incredible size and great conditioning.

unless cutler comes in with the beard
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: webcake on August 20, 2009, 01:30:53 AM
unless cutler comes in with the beard

Nah........hair like wolfs and Jays needs a clean shaven face to further compliment it. Such awesome hair is somewhat cheapened by facial hair.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: 11venthhour on August 20, 2009, 01:37:21 AM
hope wolf dosen't end up like this tiny tit going up against the beard like this ;)
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: webcake on August 20, 2009, 01:39:43 AM
NOT Huge Aryan Bastards with muscles approved.  >:(



Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: 11venthhour on August 20, 2009, 01:46:15 AM
feel the new power though....
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Matt C on August 20, 2009, 01:47:55 AM
less than a month ago.

maybe he is trying to come in leaner to compete with dex and kai and is cutting to hard?

That's possible.  He can come in more shredded than Jay if that is his goal.  In his best shape, he would give any of these guys a run for their money.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: 11venthhour on August 20, 2009, 01:52:45 AM
That's possible.  He can come in more shredded than Jay if that is his goal.  In his best shape, he would give any of these guys a run for their money.

he had a bit of a weird flow to me, nothing i could put my finger on but definitely on a good day he would be fighting for top 3 with this line up.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Ex Coelis on August 20, 2009, 04:28:25 AM
narrowwwwwwwww....

Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: lax on August 20, 2009, 04:40:21 AM
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'Don't count me out !'

looks like he has put his sister's death behind him

felon
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Marty Champions on August 20, 2009, 04:45:14 AM
martinez sucks throw him under a bus
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: axestream on August 20, 2009, 04:59:34 AM
Yes, Wolf and perhaps Toney Freeman or God forbid even Silvio can beat Vic if he comes off or his legs aren't too good.


Toney and Silvio (lol) didn't beat him at the AC so why would they be able to beat him at the Olympia? Vic and Jay will be battling for 4th place.

I think this is a crappy pic. Too much oil and unfavorable angle (too high).
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Ex Coelis on August 20, 2009, 05:04:04 AM
a winner from the waist up
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: kawaks on August 20, 2009, 05:27:59 AM
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'Don't count me out !'

Got any pics of Vic quads/calfs? Winner of the Mr O 'best arms and chest!' right there!
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: kiwiol on August 20, 2009, 05:28:32 AM
Toney and Silvio (lol) didn't beat him at the AC so why would they be able to beat him at the Olympia? Vic and Jay will be battling for 4th place.

I think this is a crappy pic. Too much oil and unfavorable angle (too high).

Good point about the AC, but in that pic posted above, he looks a lot smaller than usual and certainly, nowhere near as impressive or Phil or Kai have been looking. I personally think Vic has a great physique and would love to see him win it as much as Phil or Jay.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 20, 2009, 06:19:45 AM
LOL.......... ;D ;D

seriously..........................enough............................with the ........................ ............fucking..... ........................ ...............punctuati on...................... ........................ ........................ .
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Option D on August 20, 2009, 07:45:12 AM
maybe over dieted..


seriously since when has the olympia been judged off who looks the best
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Rami on August 20, 2009, 07:57:37 AM
very often when a bodybuilder looks smaller he also looks healthier.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: GroinkTropin on August 20, 2009, 08:47:22 AM
Looks awful (for vic martinez I mean)
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: caseyviator on August 20, 2009, 09:02:01 AM
In 4th place.....

yea i hav it

phil
dex
kai
victor
jay
wolf
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Relentless on August 20, 2009, 10:32:38 AM
Vic is regressing back to the physique he won his pro card with back in 2000.  Unfortunately, there's no way his head could have been into training/dieting the way he needed to place well at the Olympia this year with all he's been through. 

I still think he's going to place top 6 on sheer aesthetics, but he won't be challenging for the title this year.  He needs more time in the gym to get back to where he was in 2007. 
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: ManBearPig... on August 20, 2009, 10:39:50 AM
maybe he's carb depleted there.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Stavios on August 20, 2009, 11:24:46 AM
 :-\

9th or 10th
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: mass 04 on August 20, 2009, 11:29:59 AM
That's not Idrise Ward El.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Relentless on August 20, 2009, 11:57:11 AM
:-\

9th or 10th

He doesn't look even close to the Victor of 2003 and 2007, does he?  Kinda sad, really.  I still think Victor has the best genetics of anyone competing today, with the possible exception of Phil Heath.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Immortal_Technique on August 20, 2009, 01:23:58 PM
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'Don't count me out !'

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=294706.0;attach=334945;image)

Actually has decent delts in this pic, might be detracting slightly from chest and arms, which usually look bigger due to previously weak (relatively) delts, which look big and round here.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: pumpster on August 20, 2009, 01:33:37 PM
Vic's window of opportunity for winning it was the last couple of years, during which as usual he didn't come in the best possible shredded conditioning and/or was out due to injury.

Dennis James lookin big and cut, Heath, Wolf, Dexter, etc.  - too much in the way for Martinez, who would only have a serious shot at his all-time best, shredded and big as he's rarely been and won't be this year it looks like.

He'll probably go down as one of those guys who never quite got it right year after year.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: axestream on August 20, 2009, 01:39:56 PM
Vic's window of opportunity for winning it was the last couple of years, during which as usual he didn't come in the best possible shredded conditioning and/or was out due to injury.

Dennis James lookin big and cut, Heath, Wolf, Dexter, etc.  - too much in the way for Martinez, who would only have a serious shot at his all-time best, shredded and big as he's rarely been and won't be this year it looks like.

He'll probably go down as one of those guys who never quite got it right year after year.

DJ will not make top 6.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Relentless on August 20, 2009, 02:11:24 PM
Vic's window of opportunity for winning it was the last couple of years, during which as usual he didn't come in the best possible shredded conditioning and/or was out due to injury.
Victor should have won in 2007.  He was in excellent condition and looked far better than Jay "Puffy Daddy" Cutler.

Dennis James lookin big and cut, Heath, Wolf, Dexter, etc.  - too much in the way for Martinez, who would only have a serious shot at his all-time best, shredded and big as he's rarely been and won't be this year it looks like.
Dennis James?  You must be joking.  But yes, Vic will be hard pressed to keep up with the other people mentioned.

He'll probably go down as one of those guys who never quite got it right year after year.
I'd say he's had a very successful career and accomplished far more than you ever have or will. 
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: pumpster on August 20, 2009, 02:34:22 PM

Victor should have won in 2007.  He was in excellent condition and looked far better than Jay "Puffy Daddy" Cutler.

Nah, he let it be too close at the end because as usual he came in just a little smoother than truly lean. If he'd been as lean as he should've been at the olympia, he'd have won outright IMO, with no chance for it to be close enough for politics to spoil it as happened.

Quote
I'd say he's had a very successful career and accomplished far more than you ever have or will. 


Meltdown. We're not talking about you or me you idiot lol
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Relentless on August 20, 2009, 02:58:01 PM
Nah, he let it be too close at the end because as usual he came in just a little smoother than truly lean. If he'd been as lean as he should've been at the olympia, he'd have won outright IMO, with no chance for it to be close enough for politics to spoil it as happened.


Meltdown. We're not talking about you or me you idiot lol

Now we are...IDIOT.   :-*
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: tbombz on August 20, 2009, 03:05:36 PM
triceps look atrophied
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Fatpanda on August 20, 2009, 03:09:18 PM
look terrible, obviously this past year has taken its toll, as it would with anyone.

i'm sure he'll be back to his best in time, just not in time for the olympia i'm afraid.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Immortal_Technique on August 20, 2009, 03:20:12 PM
He has got Rich Gaspari's left arm it has to be said. With extreme conditioning/depletion often comes one sh!T arm. After all the fuss about Kai's condition being the deciding factor at the Arnol you can bet Vic's gone into overdrive to get super-sliced, which he looks to be already at 6 weeks out!
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Fatpanda on August 20, 2009, 03:23:01 PM
He has got Rich Gaspari's left arm it has to be said. With extreme conditioning/depletion often comes one sh!T arm. After all the fuss about Kai's condition being the deciding factor at the Arnol you can bet Vic's gone into overdrive to get super-sliced, which he looks to be already at 6 weeks out!

the only thing kai 'the abomination' green is winning at the olympia is the further attention of wiggs  :-X
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Immortal_Technique on August 20, 2009, 03:25:10 PM
Have you heard of the ASC?
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Fatpanda on August 20, 2009, 03:27:38 PM
Have you heard of the ASC?

 :-\ it rings a bell.  ::)

the only positive he'll be getting there is HIV+
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on August 20, 2009, 03:46:43 PM
DJ will not make top 6.

DJ is 2nd tier pro all the way.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Relentless on August 20, 2009, 04:04:44 PM
He might pull it together and look pretty good - but he's not going to win, period.

Victor said (new issue of MD) that a leg never looks the same after an injury like the one he suffered.  Sounds like he's resigning himself to a lower placing already.

All that said, Victor is one resilient MF'er.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: pumpster on August 20, 2009, 04:11:26 PM


All that said, Victor is one resilient MF'er.

U R easily impressed and one resillient groupie i'd say.


Hope this helps. :-*
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Relentless on August 20, 2009, 04:13:46 PM
If he comes in smaller, but looks like this...he might kick some ass.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: 3Dkiller on August 20, 2009, 05:08:00 PM
i wish him good luck
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Mr.1derful on August 20, 2009, 05:10:57 PM
I heard the NWO moved fixing the 2009 Mr. Olympia to the top of its agenda this year.  It is now even higher priority than destabilizing Russia

(http://www.plundered.net/images/nwo.jpg)
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: XS on August 20, 2009, 08:09:08 PM
He's 3 weeks behind & smaller.

He will have to be very very aggressive with these last few weeks.

Good luck...
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: LATS on August 20, 2009, 09:19:40 PM
 if he comes on smaller he is done..  he lost to kai already.. so dropping 15 pounds is not a good idea.. and trying to compete with dexter at his game but, coming in smaller to do it is silly.. welcome to 5th place
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Stavios on August 20, 2009, 09:31:06 PM
if he comes on smaller he is done..  he lost to kai already.. so dropping 15 pounds is not a good idea.. and trying to compete with dexter at his game but, coming in smaller to do it is silly.. welcome to 5th place

2004-2005 olympia all over again
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Stavios on August 20, 2009, 09:32:12 PM
If he comes in smaller, but looks like this...he might kick some ass.

he wasn't even that shredded at the NOC, i don't know why people keep saying how great he looked there
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: flexingtonsteele on August 20, 2009, 09:37:18 PM
he wasn't even that shredded at the NOC, i don't know why people keep saying how great he looked there

because he's never been shredded and thats the best he's ever looked. I dont think he diets hard cos he can never come in shredded to the bone, and if you've been dieting as long as victor has theres no reason u shouldnt be shredded every show u compete in by now.

Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: XS on August 20, 2009, 09:56:28 PM
because he's never been shredded and thats the best he's ever looked. I dont think he diets hard cos he can never come in shredded to the bone, and if you've been dieting as long as victor has theres no reason u shouldnt be shredded every show u compete in by now.



I agree with your last statement completely & with Lats. 
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: flexingtonsteele on August 20, 2009, 10:04:50 PM
I agree with your last statement completely & with Lats. 

I agree with lats if that was the case, but i dont think victor is trying to do that, the reason being is that victor is one of those "illusion" guys......hes not really that big ( compared to others ), but he looks alot bigger onstage.

His upper body is as big as it ever was. He just needs to legs to come back up, or he might as well hang it up, because with wheels like he had at the arnold, put a fork in him....HES DONE!
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: LATS on August 20, 2009, 10:37:22 PM
 victor was never known for conditioning but, has been successful based on mass, round muscle bellies, great , wide structure and lines.. if he losses 3 out of 4 of those qualities to opt for conditioning he is done.. no body expects a shredded vic.. but they do expect a mass monster with great lines..

and i agree with stavios.. bring the noc look and he is toast.. the noc did not have a 245 pound heath, a 260 pound kai, and a 235 pound dexter.. so put a (noc) 230 pound victor in the mix and 5th place here i come.. now if he somehow mysteriously puts on the old mass in the next couple of weeks then he has a shot like every one else.. dont see it happening though..
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: kawaks on August 21, 2009, 02:17:58 AM
pic courtesy of http://www.flexonline.com/ (http://www.flexonline.com/)

'Don't count me out !'

Well getbigger'ists WILL count Mr Vic out coz he aint showing the quads or "olympia" calfs as usual.
Title: Re: Victor Martinez 6 weeks out from Olympia 2009
Post by: Relentless on August 21, 2009, 09:19:35 AM
he wasn't even that shredded at the NOC, i don't know why people keep saying how great he looked there

I think he was as shredded as he needed to be.  You won't see guys with nice lines like Victor come into a contest in Dorian-like condition.  Victor brings shredded glutes to nearly every contest, so he does know how to get his bodyfat down low. 

I think getting razor-shredded is just as genetic as having nice shape. 

In this pic, he displays pretty damn good conditioning.