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What's with these average chicks demanding a modern day superman?
Here's a typical description from a modern women
Any of you guys measure up?
"At least 6'0, good shape...especially toned arms and dark hair. I like it when they dress like thugs..so sexi lol but if not that's ok too. A guys smile is what attracts me the most. I want him to be passionate and romantic, but strong and masculine at the same time. He needs to be intellectual, i like deep thinkers. I want him to be driven and grounded, respectful and compassionate. I want him to be able to protect me and get aggressive if necessary but when we're alone i want him to be gentle and loving too. I will love anyone who can make me laugh. I like confidence not cockiness...and yes there is a BIG difference.
There is so much more but ya'll get the point...obviously i want some kind of imaginary character..lol oh well a girl can dream! =]"
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dont worry, you'll find a woman soon Balloon
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Because most women have been put on a pedestal by pussy whipped men their whole lives and expect the world just because they have a vagina.
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Just because most women don't like "Balloon" doesn't make them "picky" ;D
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Balloon--start by not being so fucking whiney. What do you care about what women "think" they want anyway?
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Women basically want a gay guy to hang out with, a narcissitic guy to look good, a wife beater to be aggressive and a straight pussy destroying prick for the bedroom.
I think that about somes it up.
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I just don't stack up to these type of expectations :'(
"my ideal guy would have to be funny because i love to laugh. Be VERY active.He has to be 6 ft or more,really sweet, can sing or play an instrument(guitar, piano,) or both lol. Thinks the world of me, realizes when he's wrong and apologizes for it. Always there when i need him...Comforts me when i feel sad or alone. Romantic, considerate, respectful, really fun to be around,affectionate, in shape, very muscular, protects me when i feel scared, pretty smart but doesnt make me feel like a dummy and doesnt act diff when he's with the guys. Tells me he loves me even though i know already, and really really good looking :D"
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I just don't stack up to these type of expectations :'(
"my ideal guy would have to be funny because i love to laugh. Be VERY active.He has to be 6 ft or more,really sweet, can sing or play an instrument(guitar, piano,) or both lol. Thinks the world of me, realizes when he's wrong and apologizes for it. Always there when i need him...Comforts me when i feel sad or alone. Romantic, considerate, respectful, really fun to be around,affectionate, in shape, very muscular, protects me when i feel scared, pretty smart but doesnt make me feel like a dummy and doesnt act diff when he's with the guys. Tells me he loves me even though i know already, and really really good looking :D"
I'll say it one last time--why do you care about what women want? stop it. just fuking stop it.
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all BS and personal insecurities by getdumb members! Oprah stuff. pretty girl at least 8-9 followed around the grocer store the other day. i'm 70 ins. next?
cousin sub 68 ins, fat, with man tits got tons of women.
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Women basically want a gay guy to hang out with, a narcissitic guy to look good, a wife beater to be aggressive and a straight pussy destroying prick for the bedroom.
I think that about somes it up.
QFT
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QFT
didnt say he wasnt as handsome as wiggs. >:(
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In my experience being a cocky f**ker with average everything else work better, for all they say women like confidence
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I just don't stack up to these type of expectations :'(
"my ideal guy would have to be funny because i love to laugh. Be VERY active.He has to be 6 ft or more,really sweet, can sing or play an instrument(guitar, piano,) or both lol. Thinks the world of me, realizes when he's wrong and apologizes for it. Always there when i need him...Comforts me when i feel sad or alone. Romantic, considerate, respectful, really fun to be around,affectionate, in shape, very muscular, protects me when i feel scared, pretty smart but doesnt make me feel like a dummy and doesnt act diff when he's with the guys. Tells me he loves me even though i know already, and really really good looking :D"
Where are you coming up with these, did women really write this shit?!
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Some people are deluded, plenty of fat ugly dudes who will only look at women wayyyy out of their league. Goes both ways.
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Balloon--start by not being so fucking whiney. What do you care about what women "think" they want anyway?
Women want what they are told to want. Plain and simple.
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Some people are deluded, plenty of fat ugly dudes who will only look at women wayyyy out of their league. Goes both ways.
You could always say "both average and beautiful women are so fucking picky why not try to hit the better ones". :)
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I just don't stack up to these type of expectations :'(
"my ideal guy would have to be funny because i love to laugh. Be VERY active.He has to be 6 ft or more,really sweet, can sing or play an instrument(guitar, piano,) or both lol. Thinks the world of me, realizes when he's wrong and apologizes for it. Always there when i need him...Comforts me when i feel sad or alone. Romantic, considerate, respectful, really fun to be around,affectionate, in shape, very muscular, protects me when i feel scared, pretty smart but doesnt make me feel like a dummy and doesnt act diff when he's with the guys. Tells me he loves me even though i know already, and really really good looking :D"
any women that writes 'lol' is certainly not going to hit the jackpot.
'doesn't make me feel like a dummy'...something says me this lady aint the sharpest knife in the drawer. BTW, most of these wishes can be fulfilled by having common sense.
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Women basically want a gay guy to hang out with, a narcissitic guy to look good, a wife beater to be aggressive and a straight pussy destroying prick for the bedroom.
I think that about somes it up.
You forgot the millionaire playboy to buy her "stuff".
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Steve is pulling the women in dude..
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who gives a fuck what they say
Logic and emotion dont go hand in hand, a girl whos dream guy is a 6'0 model will go out with a 5'9 normal dude with a great personality.
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who gives a fuck what they say
right, its up to you to *show* them what they want.
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right, its up to you to *show* them what they want.
exactly....thats what being a man is all about
fuck having blonde hair and blue eyes, looks mean shit in the grande scale of things
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exactly....thats what being a man is all about
fuck having blonde hair and blue eyes, looks mean shit in the grande scale of things
I have blond hair and blue eyes, I do pretty well with women. you need to *take* a woman.. mind and body.
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if you guys read the last line she basically admitted that "perfect" guy doesn't exist
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Steve gets hot women everyday
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Watch 'the tao of Steve', with Donal Logue
He says "you truly must not care, and not just say you don 't care..." about getting laid.
then you will get laid.
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Watch 'the tao of Steve', with Donal Logue
He says "you truly must not care, and not just say you don 't care..." about getting laid.
then you will get laid.
Seen it great flick ;)
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Seen it great flick ;)
yeah
only prob is at end he gives in to the girl
loses his tao
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yeah
only prob is at end he gives in to the girl
loses his tao
yes noticed that = sampson and delilah
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What's with these average chicks demanding a modern day superman?
Here's a typical description from a modern women
Any of you guys measure up?
"At least 6'0, good shape...especially toned arms and dark hair. I like it when they dress like thugs..so sexi lol but if not that's ok too. A guys smile is what attracts me the most. I want him to be passionate and romantic, but strong and masculine at the same time. He needs to be intellectual, i like deep thinkers. I want him to be driven and grounded, respectful and compassionate. I want him to be able to protect me and get aggressive if necessary but when we're alone i want him to be gentle and loving too. I will love anyone who can make me laugh. I like confidence not cockiness...and yes there is a BIG difference.
There is so much more but ya'll get the point...obviously i want some kind of imaginary character..lol oh well a girl can dream! =]"
Hahahaha, WTF is wrong with people! Oh, our society is so fucked up!
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if you guys read the last line she basically admitted that "perfect" guy doesn't exist
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she's an idiot.. imo
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I just don't stack up to these type of expectations :'(
"my ideal guy would have to be funny because i love to laugh. Be VERY active.He has to be 6 ft or more,really sweet, can sing or play an instrument(guitar, piano,) or both lol. Thinks the world of me, realizes when he's wrong and apologizes for it. Always there when i need him...Comforts me when i feel sad or alone. Romantic, considerate, respectful, really fun to be around,affectionate, in shape, very muscular, protects me when i feel scared, pretty smart but doesnt make me feel like a dummy and doesnt act diff when he's with the guys. Tells me he loves me even though i know already, and really really good looking :D"
We should have killed Walt Disney for Cinderella, Snow White, Lady and the Tramp, Beauty and the Beast, Shrek (not Disney), all that prince charming crap. Dude brainwashed women into thinking life is a fairy tale.
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Women had to be picky to survive thousands of years ago...those who weren't picky got eaten/killed/raped and then killed when the male wasn't strong and alpha enough. :-\
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No. Modern men are simply too wimpy. It's not all your fault. I blame modern feminism and the societal pressure to be 'nice' all the time. To succeed, you must stand firm no matter what a woman says or thinks. You will find what she DOES will contradict outward inclinations almost every time.
Beware...if it is not your true nature, it will become a burden. Tread carefully, mate. :)
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To succeed, you must stand firm no matter what a woman says or thinks.
I would add to that - no matter what *anyone* thinks.. man, woman or child.
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cunty modern women are the reason why i'm glad that Jennifer Aniston gets treated like such shit by every man she dates.
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Because most women have been put on a pedestal by pussy whipped men their whole lives and expect the world just because they have a vagina.
it's ok, their worlds come crashing down as soon as a guy makes the first paycheck above minimum wage. after that, suddenly the attitude becomes "fuck you, you whore". worked out great for me.
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No. Modern men are simply too wimpy. It's not all your fault. I blame modern feminism and the societal pressure to be 'nice' all the time. To succeed, you must stand firm no matter what a woman says or thinks. You will find what she DOES will contradict outward inclinations almost every time.
Beware...if it is not your true nature, it will become a burden. Tread carefully, mate. :)
Very good ;post
Like Trymp says:
"You will never become successful if you have a woman at home who asks-'where were you'..."
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That is just 1girls/gaymans dreamprince.
Each girl is different.
Some just want a man that makes at least 200k/year
Another after drinking 10tequila shots want anything that moves preferrable a male.
Some even want any man that is a prison lifetimer they all have different taste.
For some of you there is hope, I heard about a girl that want a short, fat balding middleage man.
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Dont worry she will end up with a guy who puts her in the trunk of a car and sets it on fire...
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That is just 1girls/gaymans dreamprince.
Each girl is different.
Some just want a man that makes at least 200k/year
Another after drinking 10tequila shots want anything that moves preferrable a male.
Some even want any man that is a prison lifetimer they all have different taste.
For some of you there is hope, I heard about a girl that want a short, fat balding middleage man.
So did you marry her "big"14
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That is just 1girls/gaymans dreamprince.
Each girl is different.
Some just want a man that makes at least 200k/year
Another after drinking 10tequila shots want anything that moves preferrable a male.
Some even want any man that is a prison lifetimer they all have different taste.
For some of you there is hope, I heard about a girl that want a short, fat balding middleage man.
i agree, actually
shit, you would think i would be swimming in pussy
fact of the matter is alot of girls don't like me(including my mom).....those bitches
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So did you marry her "big"14
I am only 14, I dont live up to her standards :(
I know of one girl, all her 6 boyfriends had a big gap in their front teeth
and thinning hair, weird taste :-*
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I heard about a girl that want a short, fat balding middleage man.
LOL.. you *heard* about one of those, huh?
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What's with these average chicks demanding a modern day superman?
Here's a typical description from a modern women
Any of you guys measure up?
"At least 6'0, good shape...especially toned arms and dark hair. I like it when they dress like thugs..so sexi lol but if not that's ok too. A guys smile is what attracts me the most. I want him to be passionate and romantic, but strong and masculine at the same time. He needs to be intellectual, i like deep thinkers. I want him to be driven and grounded, respectful and compassionate. I want him to be able to protect me and get aggressive if necessary but when we're alone i want him to be gentle and loving too. I will love anyone who can make me laugh. I like confidence not cockiness...and yes there is a BIG difference.
There is so much more but ya'll get the point...obviously i want some kind of imaginary character..lol oh well a girl can dream! =]"
A Bunch of bullshit. No one who is a deep thinker and an intellectual would "dress like a thug". Sorry. Whoever wrote this is asking for someone who can't exist. It's like saying "I want someone who's an idiot, and is highly intelligent". Women make up all sorts of B.S. as far as what they want, but in reality they always go for the guys who have NONE of these traits. What most women say they want, isn't want they want.
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A Bunch of bullshit. No one who is a deep thinker and an intellectual would "dress like a thug". Sorry. Whoever wrote this is asking for someone who can't exist. It's like saying "I want someone who's an idiot, and is highly intelligent". Women make up all sorts of B.S. as far as what they want, but in reality they always go for the guys who have NONE of these traits. What most women say they want, isn't want they want.
I hate it when somebody wants her partner to be "intelligent". Like what is it anyway? Everyone who has half a brain knows there are like dozen different ways to measure intelligence. I see those kind of persons as dumb.
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LOL.. you *heard* about one of those, huh?
You sound like a bitchy slut
yes I saw and heard her say it, she was describing her dream man
and current boyfriend.
I heard another say she would date any man
that is wearing uniform.
Police would be firsthand choice but anything in uniform
was ok.
Plenty of stupid non picky women around.
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What's with these average chicks demanding a modern day superman?
Here's a typical description from a modern women
Any of you guys measure up?
"At least 6'0, good shape...especially toned arms and dark hair. I like it when they dress like thugs..so sexi lol but if not that's ok too. A guys smile is what attracts me the most. I want him to be passionate and romantic, but strong and masculine at the same time. He needs to be intellectual, i like deep thinkers. I want him to be driven and grounded, respectful and compassionate. I want him to be able to protect me and get aggressive if necessary but when we're alone i want him to be gentle and loving too. I will love anyone who can make me laugh. I like confidence not cockiness...and yes there is a BIG difference.
There is so much more but ya'll get the point...obviously i want some kind of imaginary character..lol oh well a girl can dream! =]"
I suggest you hit this forum and read,
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/index.php
American women today for the most part are screaming squealing attention whores.
And they want it all. Times have changed, read, learn and adapt.
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ALW's = Average Looking Women. WTF are they thinking? They are demanding as a supermodel. If I have to do a bunch of BS I had rather be alone or wait on a supermodel ;)
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Who gives a shit? Fact is you would be saying Adriana Lima and such if you were asked how your dreamgirl looks. It doesn't really matter.
Another ALW = Average looking Woman
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http://www.xhamster.com/movies/139626/berlin_club_8_n15.html (http://www.xhamster.com/movies/139626/berlin_club_8_n15.html)
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Thanks! Coming from GB, you know it's gotta count for something. :)
And yes, James001, I'd say 'anyone' as well. I restricted it to 'women' for the sake of argument.
To really live, you often have to just take a Fuckitol pill and go all in.
(http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q373/zizi_estepario/fukitol.jpg)
I would add to that - no matter what *anyone* thinks.. man, woman or child.
Very good ;post
Like Trymp says:
"You will never become successful if you have a woman at home who asks-'where were you'..."
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Has anyone ever walked to some really really average looking girl and really flirted with her and stuff and then walked away? ;D
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I suggest you hit this forum and read,
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/index.php
American women today for the most part are screaming squealing attention whores.
And they want it all. Times have changed, read, learn and adapt.
Read that forum a little: one girl dumbed a boy because he wore tighty whities. ::) Faaaking iiidiots...
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Has anyone ever walked to some really really average looking girl and really flirted with her and stuff and then walked away? ;D
Yes I love doing it, it fucks with there mind
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Ah good old times - was always fun to pretend you are all that - and then when thye fall for you show your real face :D
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Has anyone ever walked to some really really average looking girl and really flirted with her and stuff and then walked away? ;D
I used to get drunk and tell a girl she had beautiful eyes. When she said thanks, I told her to go to hell.
Hilarious.
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What's with these average chicks demanding a modern day superman?
Here's a typical description from a modern women
Any of you guys measure up?
"At least 6'0, good shape...especially toned arms and dark hair. I like it when they dress like thugs..so sexi lol but if not that's ok too. A guys smile is what attracts me the most. I want him to be passionate and romantic, but strong and masculine at the same time. He needs to be intellectual, i like deep thinkers. I want him to be driven and grounded, respectful and compassionate. I want him to be able to protect me and get aggressive if necessary but when we're alone i want him to be gentle and loving too. I will love anyone who can make me laugh. I like confidence not cockiness...and yes there is a BIG difference.
There is so much more but ya'll get the point...obviously i want some kind of imaginary character..lol oh well a girl can dream! =]"
Simple test for women that I often employ....upon meeting a new lady I force her to blow me, I pop on her face and then punch her twice in the gut. If she then fetches me a beer and sandwich she's a keeper.
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I like confidence not cockiness...and yes there is a BIG difference.
Big difference indeed. The problem is, while women know there's a difference, they are too stupid to be able to identify it. So the lesson is... be a dick and take your chances. More often than not, they'll think it's "confidence", when in fact, you're just an asshole. ;D
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I hate it when somebody wants her partner to be "intelligent". Like what is it anyway? Everyone who has half a brain knows there are like dozen different ways to measure intelligence. I see those kind of persons as dumb.
There are plenty of ways to appear smart, but there's just no hiding stupid.
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Most women (and men) are unrealistic. --champagne taste on a beer budget. Its the American way! ;D
They should expect no more or less than what they bring to the table.
Every girl wants the rich, handsome, athletic, romantic, intelligent, successful guy...but there are so few of them to go around.
Every guy wants the most beautiful woman on the planet, but then gets pissed when other guys hit on her.. Every guy wants Barbie yet he's not Ken.
But everyone can fantasize, I guess...if it helps them get through the day ::) 8)
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They should expect no more or less than what they bring to the table.
this is getbig, we demand supermodels.. no less.
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this is getbig, we demand supermodels.. no less.
well since everyone on getbig is in that league, it should be no problem! ;D
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well since everyone on getbig is in that league, it should be no problem! ;D
pretty much :)
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Every guy wants Barbie yet he's not Ken.
And neither are anatomically correct!!!
So both are "screwed", because they are frustrated because they cannot get (nor give) what each other wants, figuratively and literally!!!
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Most women (and men) are unrealistic. --champagne taste on a beer budget. Its the American way! ;D
They should expect no more or less than what they bring to the table.
Every girl wants the rich, handsome, athletic, romantic, intelligent, successful guy...but there are so few of them to go around.
Every guy wants the most beautiful woman on the planet, but then gets pissed when other guys hit on her.. Every guy wants Barbie yet he's not Ken.
But everyone can fantasize, I guess...if it helps them get through the day ::) 8)
Bingo, and as i said, some people are dumb enough to believe they deserve that when they look average or like shit.
I guess a guy can pay to fuck one though, i have a mate like that.
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What's with these average chicks demanding a modern day superman?
Here's a typical description from a modern women
Any of you guys measure up?
"At least 6'0, good shape...especially toned arms and dark hair. I like it when they dress like thugs..so sexi lol but if not that's ok too. A guys smile is what attracts me the most. I want him to be passionate and romantic, but strong and masculine at the same time. He needs to be intellectual, i like deep thinkers. I want him to be driven and grounded, respectful and compassionate. I want him to be able to protect me and get aggressive if necessary but when we're alone i want him to be gentle and loving too. I will love anyone who can make me laugh. I like confidence not cockiness...and yes there is a BIG difference.
There is so much more but ya'll get the point...obviously i want some kind of imaginary character..lol oh well a girl can dream! =]"
Stupid women in todays' society get away with it as weak men continually put them on a pedestal. They are like stupid love sick puppies (the men), falling in love so easily. It is no wonder women treat the suckers like they do- half of them deserve it.
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Because most women have been put on a pedestal by pussy whipped men their whole lives and expect the world just because they have a vagina.
Agreed 100%. The best part is that the so called picky women who seem to have high expectations are the ones who themselves are overweight, have attitude or a shitty mediocre job that pays next to nothing. But yet they expect to find a "night in shinning armour". ::)
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What's with these average chicks demanding a modern day superman?
Here's a typical description from a modern women
Any of you guys measure up?
"At least 6'0, good shape...especially toned arms and dark hair. I like it when they dress like thugs..so sexi lol but if not that's ok too. A guys smile is what attracts me the most. I want him to be passionate and romantic, but strong and masculine at the same time. He needs to be intellectual, i like deep thinkers. I want him to be driven and grounded, respectful and compassionate. I want him to be able to protect me and get aggressive if necessary but when we're alone i want him to be gentle and loving too. I will love anyone who can make me laugh. I like confidence not cockiness...and yes there is a BIG difference.
There is so much more but ya'll get the point...obviously i want some kind of imaginary character..lol oh well a girl can dream! =]"
that's why the dude went into L.A Fitness and express why he was discontent with what Women wants....Sad
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What's with these average chicks demanding a modern day superman?
Here's a typical description from a modern women
Any of you guys measure up?
"At least 6'0, good shape...especially toned arms and dark hair. I like it when they dress like thugs..so sexi lol but if not that's ok too. A guys smile is what attracts me the most. I want him to be passionate and romantic, but strong and masculine at the same time. He needs to be intellectual, i like deep thinkers. I want him to be driven and grounded, respectful and compassionate. I want him to be able to protect me and get aggressive if necessary but when we're alone i want him to be gentle and loving too. I will love anyone who can make me laugh. I like confidence not cockiness...and yes there is a BIG difference. There is so much more but ya'll get the point...obviously i want some kind of imaginary character..lol oh well a girl can dream! =]"
The wife says the above description sounds like Mons Venus. 8)
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What's with these average chicks demanding a modern day superman?
Here's a typical description from a modern women
Any of you guys measure up?
"At least 6'0, good shape...especially toned arms and dark hair. I like it when they dress like thugs..so sexi lol but if not that's ok too. A guys smile is what attracts me the most. I want him to be passionate and romantic, but strong and masculine at the same time. He needs to be intellectual, i like deep thinkers. I want him to be driven and grounded, respectful and compassionate. I want him to be able to protect me and get aggressive if necessary but when we're alone i want him to be gentle and loving too. I will love anyone who can make me laugh. I like confidence not cockiness...and yes there is a BIG difference.
There is so much more but ya'll get the point...obviously i want some kind of imaginary character..lol oh well a girl can dream! =]"
Why settle in measuring up to just an average woman?
;)
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Most women (and men) are unrealistic. --champagne taste on a beer budget. Its the American way! ;D
They should expect no more or less than what they bring to the table.
Every girl wants the rich, handsome, athletic, romantic, intelligent, successful guy...but there are so few of them to go around.
Every guy wants the most beautiful woman on the planet, but then gets pissed when other guys hit on her.. Every guy wants Barbie yet he's not Ken.
But everyone can fantasize, I guess...if it helps them get through the day ::) 8)
they shouldn't expect in but I can think about 10-12 relationships right now... where there is a massive unequal loading of success in particular fields i.e. wealthy women with unemployed, hot hot girl with ugly deadbeat guy, ugly women with descent looking guy not that wealthy either... etc etc.
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the best part is that the pickiest women end up with the most boring/stupid douchebags because they got most stuff on their "requirement list"
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Do women who have these requirements realise if they don't bring the same to the table that guy will just cheat on them?
Probably cheat anyway
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sluts.........all of em.
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the best part is that the pickiest women end up with the most boring/stupid douchebags because they got most stuff on their "requirement list"
There was this black chick on "Real World" a few yrs back, she had a list called "The 200 things a black man should have", now she wasn't a Video Vixen, she was quite wifey looking, she was dating some black guy, broke up with him, and then flirted with and showed her boobs to a white house mate, that didn't have nigh one of the 200 things on her list...
The women's movement has cause this whole "entitlement thing" , and it's funny that the women witht biggest requirements, can't cook, raise kids, take care of the house (that is what the maid is for), and are screaming banshees-b***. Nw I know why dudes cheat on them.
Like Kanye said, open the cookbook and just look at the pictures...
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Look at the men out there tho. Most guys are disasters making no effort whatsoever. It's like they went straight from the drunken lout phase to the defeated couch potato years.
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There was this black chick on "Real World" a few yrs back, she had a list called "The 200 things a black man should have", now she wasn't a Video Vixen, she was quite wifey looking, she was dating some black guy, broke up with him, and then flirted with and showed her boobs to a white house mate, that didn't have nigh one of the 200 things on her list...
The women's movement has cause this whole "entitlement thing" , and it's funny that the women witht biggest requirements, can't cook, raise kids, take care of the house (that is what the maid is for), and are screaming banshees-b***. Nw I know why dudes cheat on them.
Like Kanye said, open the cookbook and just look at the pictures...
Truth, see it all the time. Don't see other than the vagina what makes them so desirable? If taking on all that shit and doing all the work around the house, everywhere else and supporting these women is the deal then I will just jerk off. Too many people think they have to married to be considered "normal"
Look at the men out there tho. Most guys are disasters making no effort whatsoever. It's like they went straight from the drunken lout phase to the defeated couch potato years.
Man this is so true too, no wonder so many marriages end up in divorce or are miserable, being held together only by the children.
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Do women who have these requirements realise if they don't bring the same to the table that guy will just cheat on them?
Probably cheat anyway
And just think what woman will do when she happens to meet someone better...cheat of course. Very common.
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Are modern women to picky for buttsex?
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Are modern women to picky for buttsex?
not if you spit on it first...
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Look at the men out there tho. Most guys are disasters making no effort whatsoever. It's like they went straight from the drunken lout phase to the defeated couch potato years.
haha!!! so true.. :-\