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Title: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2009, 01:15:39 PM
Thank God for Vets like this. 



Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: James on August 24, 2009, 01:19:22 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rRE5UK6NQU&feature=player_embedded

Great Video
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 24, 2009, 01:22:40 PM
He seems like a tea bagging astro-turfer to me. 
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: headhuntersix on August 24, 2009, 01:43:31 PM
He knew he was in trouble when the guy said....I also took an oath...Hoorah Devil Dog!
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Colossus_500 on August 24, 2009, 03:45:33 PM
I just caught this on hotair.com (http://hotair.com).  Good stuff!  Another politician receiving a SMACKDOWN!!!!!!
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Straw Man on August 24, 2009, 05:41:33 PM
looks like an angry blowhard to me.

hopefully the secret service has got this guy on a watchlist

he seems like he could lose it a any moment
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Straw Man on August 24, 2009, 06:25:59 PM
I've watched this a couple times now and I'm not impressed at all

First, when I see someone who can't control their anger I am not impressed.

He seems preloaded with anger to me.

Why does he make his little speech and then practically run away?

Let's ask him a few questions and find out if he knows why he's angry or if he just knows he angry

Hopefully he'll make the rounds of the right wing shows and we'll find out if he's just another grossly misinformed person on the left who has swallowed the right wing talking points and vomited back the anger that they were designed to elicit.

I'd bet he's been angry for a long time before the health care debate started
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 24, 2009, 06:53:32 PM
I've watched this a couple times now and I'm not impressed at all

First, when I see someone who can't control their anger I am not impressed.

He seems preloaded with anger to me.

Why does he make his little speech and then practically run away.

Let's ask him a few questions and find out if he knows why he's angry or if he just knows he angry

Hopefully he'll make the rounds of the right wing shows and we'll find out if he's just another grossly misinformed person on the left who has swallowed the right wing talking points and vomited back the anger that they were designed to elicit.

I'd bet he's been angry for a long time before the health care debate started

Why wouldn't he be angry if he's against the bailouts, the take over of the auto industry, the takeover of some parts of the financial industry, etc...Tim Geithner himself said they had to do offensive things to save the economy.
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Straw Man on August 24, 2009, 07:09:03 PM
Why wouldn't he be angry if he's against the bailouts, the take over of the auto industry, the takeover of some parts of the financial industry, etc...Tim Geithner himself said they had to do offensive things to save the economy.

he would be if there was actually a takeover of the auto industry, some parts of the financial industry etct..

he could be angry about the bailouts of AIG but first he should look at the details and figure out the right person to direct his anger

he could also stand there after his rant and have a dialogue

I'd also be more impressed if he was calm and could express himself without seeming like he's about to lose it

showing anger is a weakness in most circumstances
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 24, 2009, 07:16:50 PM
he would be if there was actually a takeover of the auto industry, some parts of the financial industry etct..

he could be angry about the bailouts of AIG but first he should look at the details and figure out the right person to direct his anger

he could also stand there after his rant and have a dialogue

I'd also be more impressed if he was calm and could express himself without seeming like he's about to lose it

showing anger is a weakness in most circumstances

You make some good points about the anger issue but I think most of it has to do with nerves. You know, standing in front of a bunch of strangers.

There was no instances of, "We gave you money now you'll do this"?
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Straw Man on August 24, 2009, 07:20:32 PM
You make some good points about the anger issue but I think most of it has to do with nerves. You know, standing in front of a bunch of strangers.

There was no instances of, "We gave you money now you'll do this"?

I thought he was a marine and presumably saw combat

I'm more impressed when someone who is under stress or angry can remain calm
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 24, 2009, 07:28:59 PM
I thought he was a marine and presumably saw combat

I'm more impressed when someone who is under stress or angry can remain calm

 I think you're being way to harsh on the guy.
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Straw Man on August 24, 2009, 07:31:38 PM
I think you're being way to harsh on the guy.

really

you really think that's harsh?
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 24, 2009, 07:35:30 PM


I really don't know how serious you were about your earlier comment.




looks like an angry blowhard to me.

hopefully the secret service has got this guy on a watchlist

he seems like he could lose it at any moment
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Straw Man on August 24, 2009, 08:55:58 PM

I really don't know how serious you were about your earlier comment.

looks like an angry blowhard to me.

hopefully the secret service has got this guy on a watchlist

he seems like he could lose it at any moment

yep

that's how it looked then

it still looks that way to me

I need to know why he is so angry and why he can't contain his anger

and why he is directing it at this guy
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 24, 2009, 09:47:29 PM
yep

that's how it looked then

it still looks that way to me

I need to know why he is so angry and why he can't contain his anger

and why he is directing it at this guy

that guy called people that are angry "brown shirts" I think.
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Straw Man on August 24, 2009, 10:03:39 PM
that guy called people that are angry "brown shirts" I think.

first he self identified as the type of angry people that others are calling brownshirts

then he accused Pelosi of being a Nazi

he seems really stable and fully grounded in reality
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: IFBBwannaB on August 24, 2009, 11:23:03 PM
I thought he was a marine and presumably saw combat

I'm more impressed when someone who is under stress or angry can remain calm



Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 25, 2009, 05:17:49 AM
I've watched this a couple times now and I'm not impressed at all

First, when I see someone who can't control their anger I am not impressed.

He seems preloaded with anger to me.

Why does he make his little speech and then practically run away?

Let's ask him a few questions and find out if he knows why he's angry or if he just knows he angry

Hopefully he'll make the rounds of the right wing shows and we'll find out if he's just another grossly misinformed person on the left who has swallowed the right wing talking points and vomited back the anger that they were designed to elicit.

I'd bet he's been angry for a long time before the health care debate started

________________________ ________________________ ______ 

Lets see - This guy puts goes overseas and dodges bullets for you and me. 

He makes it home after defending the constitution for you and me only to see the filth and scum in the WH and Congress doing what they are doing.

I would be a little pissed off to Straw.     
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Straw Man on August 25, 2009, 06:45:33 AM
______________________________________________________ 

Lets see - This guy puts goes overseas and dodges bullets for you and me. 

He makes it home after defending the constitution for you and me only to see the filth and scum in the WH and Congress doing what they are doing.

I would be a little pissed off to Straw.      

I have no doubt

your constant uniformed rants are not impressive either

Again, I'd be more impressed if this guy could stand there are speak and have a dialogue rather than just get all worked up and scream and then run away rather than having a dialogue with the congressman
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 25, 2009, 06:49:05 AM
You know what Straw - anger is a valid human emotion.

GFY if you want to deny this Marine Corp. Vet his five minutes of venting. 

He has done a million more things for this country than you did.

He should be allowed to rant for two hours if he likes after serving his country.     
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Straw Man on August 25, 2009, 07:17:56 AM
You know what Straw - anger is a valid human emotion.

GFY if you want to deny this Marine Corp. Vet his five minutes of venting. 

He has done a million more things for this country than you did.

He should be allowed to rant for two hours if he likes after serving his country.     

I don't think volunteering to serve and being compensated for it (including free healthcare) gives him the right to rant like an idiot but I can see why you think it would.

Since the guy had no desire to have a conversation maybe we should just have town hall meetings and put up cardboard cut outs of Obama, Pelosi etc.. and all the angry, borderline nutjobs can just line up and scream at them for 5 minutes
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Kazan on August 25, 2009, 07:41:18 AM
I don't think volunteering to serve and being compensated for it (including free healthcare) gives him the right to rant like an idiot but I can see why you think it would.

Since the guy had no desire to have a conversation maybe we should just have town hall meetings and put up cardboard cut outs of Obama, Pelosi etc.. and all the angry, borderline nutjobs can just line up and scream at them for 5 minutes

Maybe politicians should try to be somewhat available to their constituants other than at election time, and just maybe people would be more calm. You try to call your rep what are the odds they are going to talk to you? about 1%, you send an e-mail/letter you get a from letter/e-mail in response thanking you for your concern. Seems to me they get their representatives, by the way who work for us in a setting where they have to respond, sometime emotion gets the better of people.
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Straw Man on August 25, 2009, 08:08:37 AM
Maybe politicians should try to be somewhat available to their constituants other than at election time, and just maybe people would be more calm. You try to call your rep what are the odds they are going to talk to you? about 1%, you send an e-mail/letter you get a from letter/e-mail in response thanking you for your concern. Seems to me they get their representatives, by the way who work for us in a setting where they have to respond, sometime emotion gets the better of people.

sorry man, I jus don't buy that argument.

If this guy is a combat veteran I'd expect him to be able to remain calm under pressure (assuming he was nervous by talking in front of what was clearly a friendly crowd).  This guy had his chance to express his views and have a dialogue.  Instead he ranted about Nazi's and people keeping their hands (or idealogy) off his kids and then he turned around and practically ran away.   

I'm not impressed
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Kazan on August 25, 2009, 08:12:11 AM
sorry man, I jus don't buy that argument.

If this guy is a combat veteran I'd expect him to be able to remain calm under pressure (assuming he was nervous by talking in front of what was clearly a friendly crowd).  This guy had his chance to express his views and have a dialogue.  Instead he ranted about Nazi's and people keeping their hands (or idealogy) off his kids and then he turned around and practically ran away.   

I'm not impressed

Good thing he wasn't trying to impress you then
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 25, 2009, 08:14:11 AM
Good thing he wasn't trying to impress you then

Amazing:

Libs attack soldiers, protestors, citizens, doctors, surgeons, insurance companies, and anyone who disagrees with their desire for free health care and more govt cheese.

Whether it was Joe the Plumber, that woman from NJ, anyone whatsoever who voices opposition to what is going on, they attack them personally.   
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Kazan on August 25, 2009, 08:17:22 AM
Amazing:

Libs attack soldiers, protestors, citizens, doctors, surgeons, insurance companies, and anyone who disagrees with their desire for free health care and more govt cheese.

Whether it was Joe the Plumber, that woman from NJ, anyone whatsoever who voices opposition to what is going on, they attack them personally.   

What do you expect? When you can't argue against the content of what is being said you divert the argument to his delivery. It happens on this board all the time, loosing the argument attack their spelling or some other bullshit.
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 25, 2009, 08:19:00 AM
What do you expect? When you can't argue against the content of what is being said you divert the argument to his delivery. It happens on this board all the time, loosing the argument attack their spelling or some other bullshit.

Look at my thread about the 2 Trillion in more debt. 

Because there is no one to attack personally over that like Palin or Beck, they ignore those threads. 

Meanwhile - WGAF about Beck when we have fiscal problems like we do???
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Straw Man on August 25, 2009, 08:34:18 AM
Good thing he wasn't trying to impress you then

yeah but if he was smart he would care about getting his point across to people.

I have no clue what this guy's problem was.  He was ranting talking points and then turned around and ran away.

Adults have dialogue. They make statements, ask question, answer questions.

Nut jobs and children have rants and temper tantrums
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Straw Man on August 25, 2009, 08:44:06 AM
What do you expect? When you can't argue against the content of what is being said you divert the argument to his delivery. It happens on this board all the time, loosing the argument attack their spelling or some other bullshit.

that's the entire point

I have no clue what he's ranting about

something about keeping someone else idealogy off his children, something about others calling him  a a Nazi but really Pelosi is a Nazi, etc.. and then he turns around and runs away

how about staying there and answering some questions.

maybe he has some valid points

maybe he's a completely misinformed moron

we don't know because he just ranted for 2 minutes and then ran away
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: headhuntersix on August 25, 2009, 12:03:53 PM
The time for dialogue is over. This guy is making damm sure that his elected official knows what the hell he thinks. Thats his fucking right, and if he wants to scream and yell, he can do that to. This guy views this bill as a threat against his familiy and is acting accordingly.
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Straw Man on August 25, 2009, 12:19:57 PM
The time for dialogue is over. This guy is making damm sure that his elected official knows what the hell he thinks. Thats his fucking right, and if he wants to scream and yell, he can do that to. This guy views this bill as a threat against his familiy and is acting accordingly.

The time for dialogue is over?

Hmmm, so why even bother having a town hall meeting.

Let's just put up card board cut out of Obama on stage and give every nutjob 5 minutes to yell at it

If this guy views this bill (proposed health care reform) as a threat I'd like to know why and I certainly didn't learn that from his little tantrum.

What are the odds this guy is fearful of a "take over" of health care or a "socialist agenda" or all the other right wing bullshit that we've been hearing for months .

What are the odds this guys seething anger is based on misinformation and therefore totally unjustified.

I guess we'll never know because after his rant he just turns tail and runs away
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 25, 2009, 12:23:20 PM
"Let's just put up card board cut out of Obama on stage and give every nutjob 5 minutes to yell at it"


Straw - that was hysterical!  Sometimes you come out with some good one liners, like that one. 
Title: Re: Marine Corp. Vet unloads on Congressman at Town Hall Meeting.
Post by: Dos Equis on August 25, 2009, 12:33:03 PM
Thank God for Vets like this. 





*Applause*  Nice!   :)