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Title: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Determinator on August 25, 2009, 04:42:45 AM
Apart from obviously embarrassing examples like Evan Centopani, my vote:

D.Wolf.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: webcake on August 25, 2009, 04:45:04 AM
oh fuck off nig nog.........no one cares what you think.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Mars on August 25, 2009, 04:47:44 AM
aaron baker
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: kiwiol on August 25, 2009, 04:49:11 AM
Silvio and Hide FTW
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: MethodGNA on August 25, 2009, 04:50:07 AM
tony freeman is pretty overrated
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Determinator on August 25, 2009, 04:50:47 AM
Silvio and Hide FTW
Yes, Silvio is overrated. Don't think that Freeman is though, as another poster has stated.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: webcake on August 25, 2009, 04:52:05 AM
Dennis is automatically off the list due to his superior height...........there are tonnes of shit midgets out there. Put them here.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 25, 2009, 04:55:06 AM
Apart from obviously embarrassing examples like Evan Centopani, my vote:

D.Wolf.

incorrect X 2

you have just singled out the only two white BBers worth a shit right now. completely bass-ackwards
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: kiwiol on August 25, 2009, 04:55:26 AM
tony freeman is pretty overrated

His problem is that he looks too lanky when standing next to guys who are 5'7" and under, which is the majority of the lineup. He'd be at the very top if he was about 30 lb or so heavier, but he's not going to do that and he's too old to pile on that much quality mass.

I've never seen anyone hype him up though, apart from his mate Adipo8 who posts here once in a while. He looks way better than guys like Branch or Hide or Silvio.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Determinator on August 25, 2009, 04:58:00 AM
incorrect X 2

you have just singled out the only two white BBers worth a shit right now. completely bass-ackwards

Centopani is a joke, especially.
Wolf is a league above, but still very overrated.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: webcake on August 25, 2009, 05:00:14 AM
Centopani is a joke, especially.
Wolf is a league above, but still very overrated.

How is Centopani a joke?

Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Determinator on August 25, 2009, 05:00:28 AM
His problem is that he looks too lanky when standing next to guys who are 5'7" and under, which is the majority of the lineup. He'd be at the very top if he was about 30 lb or so heavier, but he's not going to do that and he's too old to pile on that much quality mass.

I've never seen anyone hype him up though, apart from his mate Adipo8 who posts here once in a while. He looks way better than guys like Branch or Hide or Silvio.

yes, i agree with you on that front. I find it amusing when he hits his side tri shots, standing next to competitors with more front-back thickness. he almost turns directly front stage.
Again though, as you state, he is far 'better' than the likes Of warren etc (if you can define 'better' in b.buiding of course).
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Determinator on August 25, 2009, 05:01:37 AM
How is Centopani a joke?



Read a later entire of mine in thread concerning him and D.James.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 25, 2009, 05:04:20 AM
His problem is that he looks too lanky when standing next to guys who are 5'7" and under, which is the majority of the lineup. He'd be at the very top if he was about 30 lb or so heavier, but he's not going to do that and he's too old to pile on that much quality mass.

I've never seen anyone hype him up though, apart from his mate Adipo8 who posts here once in a while. He looks way better than guys like Branch or Hide or Silvio.

Kiwiol...are you implying that "Determinator"  has "determined" that it will take 14255 psi of thrust and a 23 degree loft to shoot a 14 inch long, 3 pound dildo across a football field and lodge itself in his ass?
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Determinator on August 25, 2009, 05:07:55 AM
Kiwiol...are you implying that "Determinator"  has "determined" that it will take 14255 psi of thrust and a 23 degree loft to shoot a 14 inch long, 3 pound dildo across a football field and lodge itself in his ass?

nearly correct. However, you did not account for air resistance and the varying value of the acceleration due to gravity at different points of the earth's surface. That, compounded by you failing to further allow for inertial effects of the dildo, resulted in your hypothetical dildo just missing the target.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: webcake on August 25, 2009, 05:09:39 AM
nearly correct. However, you did not account for air resistance and the varying value of the acceleration due to gravity at different points of the earth's surface. That, compounded by you failing to further allow for inertial effects of the dildo, resulted in your hypothetical dildo just missing the target.

But you don't deny taking it up the ass?
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: RxBandit on August 25, 2009, 05:10:20 AM
Centopani is a joke, especially.
Wolf is a league above, but still very overrated.

How is Dennis "very overrated"? One of the best aryan BB's this year...
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 25, 2009, 05:11:12 AM
nearly correct. However, you did not account for air resistance and the varying value of the acceleration due to gravity at different points of the earth's surface. That, compounded by you failing to further allow for inertial effects of the dildo, resulted in your hypothetical dildo just missing the target.

varying points of gravity in a 100 yard span?

we have another Einstein here  ::)

I hope you are not a teacher at my kid's school
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Determinator on August 25, 2009, 05:16:12 AM
varying points of gravity in a 100 yard span?

we have another Einstein here  ::)

I hope you are not a teacher at my kid's school

If one wishes to work to a significant number of decimal places, the earth's gravititational field will indeed vary. One does not need to be Einstein to be aware of that.  Moreover, you state the 100 yard given field span. The 100 yard figure was not given in the original problem, thus one would not be aware if the 'football field' included the end zones too, which, of course would result in a distance of >100 yards.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: rccs on August 25, 2009, 05:20:22 AM
Apart from obviously embarrassing examples like Evan Centopani, my vote:

D.Wolf.
Where are guys like you coming from? Retardland?
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Determinator on August 25, 2009, 05:23:52 AM
How is Dennis "very overrated"? One of the best aryan BB's this year...

Wolf overrated as:

0 calfs

0 lower back

Weak biceps.

Takes full year offs and makes no improvements.

Ridiculous 'career' decisions to forgo major competitions like the Arnold, to spend more time making 0 improvements.

No momentum as a result going into this years Mr. O

His gifted 4th place of last year will be like a dream come September.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 25, 2009, 05:31:06 AM
Wolf overrated as:

0 calfs

0 lower back

Weak biceps.

Takes full year offs and makes no improvements.

Ridiculous 'career' decisions to forgo major competitions like the Arnold, to spend more time making 0 improvements.

No momentum as a result going into this years Mr. O

His gifted 5th place of last year will be like a dream come September.

best structure, most pleasing build of any Olympia contender....Dex's calves suck ass and he's mr O

PS they all have flaws

I actually agree that his strategy blew up in his face, but that doesn't mean he's not one of the very best out there right now
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: RxBandit on August 25, 2009, 05:32:02 AM
I can see improvements...

New York Pro 2007: 3rd
Keystone Pro 2007: 1st

Mr. Olympia 2006: 16th
Mr. Olympia 2007: 5th
Mr. Olympia 2008: 4th
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Determinator on August 25, 2009, 05:33:06 AM
best structure, most pleasing build of any Olympia contender....Dex's calves suck ass and he's mr O

PS they all have flaws

I actually agree that his strategy blew up in his face, but that doesn't mean he's not one of the very best out there right now

Mr. O 7th place.
Try a resurrection at next years Arnold and 'may' make a respectable showing, if the main players are not playing.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 25, 2009, 05:33:27 AM
I can see improvements...

New York Pro 2007: 3rd
Keystone Pro 2007: 1st

Mr. Olympia 2006: 16th
Mr. Olympia 2007: 5th
Mr. Olympia 2008: 4th

he should have won the whole damn thing in 07 IMO
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 25, 2009, 05:35:44 AM
Mr. O 7th place.
Try a resurrection at next years Arnold and 'may' make a respectable showing, if the main players are not playing.

or he could show up at the O looking fucking sick and take 3rd, you don't know any better than I
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Determinator on August 25, 2009, 05:36:35 AM
I can see improvements...

New York Pro 2007: 3rd
Keystone Pro 2007: 1st

Mr. Olympia 2006: 16th
Mr. Olympia 2007: 5th
Mr. Olympia 2008: 4th

Gifted 4th in 08, as much as he was (admittedly) ripped by 5th in 07.

Very weak outing in 08 in comparison to 07. 'Improvement' only in a momentum -laced gifted placing, not in physique (by a long way).
Working with Nicolls indicates he is even more thick than he sounds.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: tendonitis on August 25, 2009, 05:36:53 AM
Silivio is the most overrated by far
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Determinator on August 25, 2009, 05:38:03 AM
he should have won the whole damn thing in 07 IMO

Exactly, in your opinion.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Determinator on August 25, 2009, 05:39:56 AM
Silivio is the most overrated by far

Yes, but he licks everyones arse who's in the right place.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 25, 2009, 05:42:40 AM
Gifted 4th in 08, as much as he was (admittedly) ripped by 5th in 07.

Very weak outing in 08 in comparison to 07. 'Improvement' only in a momentum -laced gifted placing, not in physique (by a long way).
Working with Nicolls indicates he is even more thick than he sounds.

here's the problem as I see it...

A promising young pro bber shows up looking unreal for a few years, and gets jobbed with the ole "pay your dues" bullshit.

Now as an "Established" pro, he wins the shows but doesn't look as good as he used to when he was fresh.

there are exceptions of course but this is what happens to a lot of guys
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: andreisdaman on August 25, 2009, 06:59:27 AM
Wolf overrated as:

0 calfs

0 lower back

Weak biceps.

Takes full year offs and makes no improvements.

Ridiculous 'career' decisions to forgo major competitions like the Arnold, to spend more time making 0 improvements.

No momentum as a result going into this years Mr. O

His gifted 4th place of last year will be like a dream come September.

agreed
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: bigdumbbell on August 25, 2009, 07:05:38 AM
silvio
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: jaejonna on August 25, 2009, 07:19:18 AM
Hide
Silvio
Dennis GH15 James
Putman
Wolf
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: andreisdaman on August 25, 2009, 07:49:43 AM
Hide
Silvio
Dennis GH15 James
Putman
Wolf


Melvin Anthony....feels he should win every contest..talks a good game but never wins anything
Dennis Wolf..same as above
Phil Heath...thinks he really is the "gift" so he feels he doesn't have to compete
Johnnie Jackson..how can someone who looks so good in mags place so low in contests?
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: MethodGNA on August 25, 2009, 07:54:08 AM

Melvin Anthony....feels he should win every contest..talks a good game but never wins anything
Dennis Wolf..same as above
Phil Heath...thinks he really is the "gift" so he feels he doesn't have to compete
Johnnie Jackson..how can someone who looks so good in mags place so low in contests?

i dont knwo what the fuck phil is thinking, or any of these new pros.....the turn pro, then take a year off.......then once they qualify for the olympia once......that is the only show they do from then on.........who the fuck do they think they are...........back in the time of cormier, wheeler, ray, levrone, priest..........they all competed multiple show per year...........these guys should have to re qualify for the olympia every single year..........its hurting the sport.......every show except the arnold and the olympia has 3rd tier bodybuilders
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: TRIX on August 25, 2009, 08:16:50 AM
Wolf in 07 was 250 lbs. What was he in 08? 270ish?
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Wiggs on August 25, 2009, 08:31:21 AM
Wolf is good not great.  Working with Chad to blow out his gut will make him a sure Mr. O contender.
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: andreisdaman on August 25, 2009, 08:34:31 AM
i dont knwo what the fuck phil is thinking, or any of these new pros.....the turn pro, then take a year off.......then once they qualify for the olympia once......that is the only show they do from then on.........who the fuck do they think they are...........back in the time of cormier, wheeler, ray, levrone, priest..........they all competed multiple show per year...........these guys should have to re qualify for the olympia every single year..........its hurting the sport.......every show except the arnold and the olympia has 3rd tier bodybuilders


I agree with everything you said 100%...the only good shows are the IRON MAN, the ARNOLD, and the OLYMPIA.....every other contest is basically garbage....and the IRONMAN is slowly slipping into irrelevance as well
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: Schmoe Buster on August 25, 2009, 08:36:37 AM

I agree with everything you said 100%...the only good shows are the IRON MAN, the ARNOLD, and the OLYMPIA.....every other contest is basically garbage....and the IRONMAN is slowly slipping into irrelevance as well

like the NY Pro already did
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: andreisdaman on August 25, 2009, 08:44:54 AM
like the NY Pro already did

good point
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: seste on August 25, 2009, 10:36:11 AM
Jay shouldn't "even" place top 5 in olympia
Silvio and Hide also very overrated

Underrated and will always be,even tho his physique is in my opinion what a bodybuilder should look like:
Ronny Rockel
Title: Re: Most overrated Bobybuilder on the circuit at the moment
Post by: stuntmovie on August 25, 2009, 10:39:27 AM
Interesting observation, Groink!