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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: ag2 on August 28, 2009, 10:46:36 AM
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We all know of times in the IFBB when the judging has been suspect, 1981, 1994, 1997, so I have a question, what steps has the IFBB taken to ensure that this does not happen again and BB maintains itegrity. When will favouritism be out of the sport?
Dishonesty and cheating has ruined baseball and BB, well I guess you can't kill something twice.
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3 high scores and 3 low scores are thrown out...
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Bob, I've personally witnessed two cases of outright cheating in my lifetime.
Neither involved the NPC nor the IFBB.
If you are interested, let me know.
Thanks
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Bob being gifted his Masters win and Rusty placing back in the pack set bodybuilding back decades. The message to competitors was loud and clear: donīt bother bringing your best physique cuz it ain't gonna be rewarded over politics.
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Bob, I've personally witnessed two cases of outright cheating in my lifetime.
Neither involved the NPC nor the IFBB.
If you are interested, let me know.
Thanks
Het Bill...I'm sure you've seen plenty over the years. I know for sure there were plenty of suspect decisions in the old AAU days.
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3 high scores and 3 low scores are thrown out...
How many scores are left then?
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How many scores are left then?
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Bob
There must be something done about the " over the line" every show the athletes go over the line again and again.
Gives people unfair advantage - The Expediters should call foul when they do .. " Watch what happens when smaller guys have to stay Behind the line instead up inching up "
ON the 08's Olympia DVD and live - you heard the judge comment" come on guys get behind the line "
Basketball - has lines
Football- has lines
Baseball - has lines
Can we insure the athletes stay behind the line during posing and how about a posing clock - Takes Dexter 2 weeks to pose !
Bring it up in your next show !
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Why are they 11 judges and not a cool and even 10?
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So more than half of the judging scores are deleted. LOL What a BS....?
Would be funny to see the results of the past years with all scores.
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So more than half of the judging scores are deleted. LOL What a BS....?
Would be funny to see the results of the past years with all scores.
CUTLER WAS OUT OF THE TOP SIX AND SILVIO SHOULD OF BEEN HIGHER AND PHIL SHOULD OF BEEN SECOND
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So more than half of the judging scores are deleted. LOL What a BS....?
Would be funny to see the results of the past years with all scores.
Allowing all the scores would only open the door for anyone with an agenda to make a difference. Of course, we all hope there are no such things in fair judging, but this system keeps the honest people honest...
This system also insures that no judge can be "bought"...
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The judges simply ranked the competitors on a sheet of paper, awarding the best man one point, the second two and so on. It was a simple method in which the lowest score won. DeMilia had devised a system where the computer randomly selected one judge per round as an alternate, thus eliminating their score. It then removed the three highest and the three lowest scoring judges. From the twelve judges, then, just five papers counted in any one round, and the judges were unaware of which they were, " To fix a contest, definitely beyond a shadow of a doubt, Wayne had told me, somewhat gleefully, ' you gotta buy off nine judges. I figured this out mathematically. You gotta buy off nine judges. In our sport, with all the big mouths and gossips and everything else, you think nine judges could keep their mouths shut? And lets face it, you gotta go to nine judges and one says ' I don't wanna do it, ' you gotta go to number ten...You think that one other guy ain't gonna talk? ' Hey he tried to buy me off, but I didn't take it. He didn't offer me enough money..." how much money is it gonna take.?"
Wayne explaining the improbability of fixing a contest
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Focus on the Rules of the contest
Shape
Symmetry
Size
Stay behind the line
and hit the mandatory poses during the prejudging and night routine!
Let it be entertaining - for the fans!
To expensive for the fans to watch a Pre Determine win!
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3 high scores and 3 low scores are thrown out...
OK, how long has this system been in place?
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Allowing all the scores would only open the door for anyone with an agenda to make a difference. Of course, we all hope there are no such things in fair judging, but this system keeps the honest people honest...
This system also insures that no judge can be "bought"...
could an MD bodybuilder ever win an olympia? Or is a WEIDER bodybuilder going to win again?
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Sometimes it's not necessary to buy off the judges in order to win. In the 1980 Mr O, every single judge had a personal connection with Arnold and the head judge was Reg Park, Arnolds mentor and 'father-figure'. At least Bill Pearl had the integrity to excuse himself from the judging panel because he had been helping Chris Dickerson and didn't want to raise any issues of impropriety.
Same thing happened in 1981. Arnold was the promoter and most of the judges were long time friends of Franco.
Different era now I know, but funny things still happen with judging, like Cutler getting an absolute gift last year.
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Bob! When are you going to do something about the ridiculously small thongs the oiled men are wearing these days, and get the sport back to something reasonable, like what they wore in Arnold's day?? Or will you not be proposing this long-overdue change for fear of offending the IFBB's gay-majority fanbase?
"It's only gay if you want it to be", right Bob? ::)
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Can we insure the athletes stay behind the line during posing and how about a posing clock - Takes Dexter 2 weeks to pose !
haha
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Bob! When are you going to do something about the ridiculously small thongs the oiled men are wearing these days, and get the sport back to something reasonable, like what they wore in Arnold's day?? Or will you not be proposing this long-overdue change for fear of offending the IFBB's gay-majority fanbase?
"It's only gay if you want it to be", right Bob? ::)
In Arnolds day, the guys from the 40's/ 50's were saying the same thing..."whats up with these small trunks these kids are wearing these days? Thats why BB isnt taken as seriuosly as when Reeves and Grimek were winning...."
If you think adding an inch of fabric will somehow magically bring respect and prime time to BB, you're delusional...
I'm sure the gay guys have much better places to go if they want to see mens asses....BTW...weve had shows in San FRan...they tanked and weren't very well attended.
So much for your theory.
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In Arnolds day, the guys from the 40's/ 50's were saying the same thing..."whats up with these small trunks these kids are wearing these days? Thats why BB isnt taken as seriuosly as when Reeves and Grimek were winning...."
If you think adding an inch of fabric will somehow magically bring respect and prime time to BB, you're delusional...I'm sure the gay guys have much better places to go if they want to see mens asses....BTW...weve had shows in San FRan...they tanked and weren't very well attended.
So much for your theory.
it would not hurt to do so, though
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In Arnolds day, the guys from the 40's/ 50's were saying the same thing..."whats up with these small trunks these kids are wearing these days? Thats why BB isnt taken as seriuosly as when Reeves and Grimek were winning...."
If you think adding an inch of fabric will somehow magically bring respect and prime time to BB, you're delusional...
I'm sure the gay guys have much better places to go if they want to see mens asses....BTW...weve had shows in San FRan...they tanked and weren't very well attended.
So much for your theory.
your radio show chick............why were the two of you too lazy to do one, AGAIN............i mean how difficult is it to talk for 45 minutes once a week.
and once again i query, when will the shows name be changed to "pro bodybuilding when we feel like talking about it"..........this would of course be a more accurate title taking into consideration the shows current incarnation.
and AG2...........your answer.............the judges, and bodybuilders.........whi le in town for an ifbb show..........have to limit their homosexual muscle-worship sessions to either before prejudging, or after places are announced............... .in the critical interim period.............the judges and pro bodybuilders are no longer allowed to engage in their "posing sessions".............which, lets face it, is the real reason the pros and judges are in town anyway...............cer tainly not for that 1,500$ 3rd place prize money.
i think they really kicked the corruption whit this new edict........
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If you think adding an inch of fabric will somehow magically bring respect and prime time to BB, you're delusional...
Just so you know, Bob, nothing can bring "respect and prime time" to the train wreck that is IFBB pro bodybuilding.
Hope this Helps! :D
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Just so you know, Bob, nothing can bring "respect and prime time" to the train wreck that is IFBB pro bodybuilding.
Hope this Helps! :D
Then why is the size of trunks on BBers of interest to you?
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Chick what happened to the Houston Pro? It was scheduled for this weekend right?
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Chick what happened to the Houston Pro? It was scheduled for this weekend right?
I'm guessing it had something to do with texasbubba (or his "brother in law") being indicted?
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I'm guessing it had something to do with texasbubba (or his "brother in law") being indicted.
LMAO :D