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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Hugo Chavez on August 28, 2009, 04:04:37 PM
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right on...
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Yeah so what...I went through one driving from El Paso to Georgia...big deal. They aren't looking for me....
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Yeah so what...I went through one driving from El Paso to Georgia...big deal. They aren't looking for me....
they aren't looking for me either so why would I be against it? yet I am.
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4409 Bitches!
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that border patrol agent needs to grow a set ::)
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that border patrol agent needs to grow a set ::)
maybe he could just grow a brain and go patrol the border :D
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This type of protest is totally pointless. Nothing was accomplished. I look at this as different then the video of the guy that won't answer if he's an American citizen when asked becasue the patrol unit knew who he was and were just fucking with him. But these guy screaming, "Are you God?!" is immature grandstanding.
Should these guys be right at the border? Yes. Should people be concerned that they aren't? Yes, but go about protesting the right way.
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This type of protest is totally pointless. Nothing was accomplished. I look at this as different then the video of the guy that won't answer if he's an American citizen when asked becasue the patrol unit knew who he was and were just fucking with him. But these guy screaming, "Are you God?!" is immature grandstanding.
Should these guys be right at the border? Yes. Should people be concerned that they aren't? Yes, but go about protesting the right way.
I didn't have a problem with it. Yes the protest you mention is good, but this one isn't bad. I think they should keep getting the message from people that checkpoints aren't cool by us. They contacted DHS and asked permission. They probably needed to check with the state too so they might have fucked up there. The guards could have escorted them to the point outside of their checkpoint that they wanted to be but they were just being dicks. Looks like the highway patrol sent them onto railroad property too which they don't have permission to be on. Not sure but I'm guessing that was a railroad owned access road with the railroad being right there.
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I didn't have a problem with it. Yes the protest you mention is good, but this one isn't bad. I think they should keep getting the message from people that checkpoints aren't cool by us. They contacted DHS and asked permission. They probably needed to check with the state too so they might have fucked up there. The guards could have escorted them to the point outside of their checkpoint that they wanted to be but they were just being dicks. Looks like the highway patrol sent them onto railroad property too which they don't have permission to be on. Not sure but I'm guessing that was a railroad owned access road with the railroad being right there.
I agree that they should have been better prepared.
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ok, the last one i just posted was retared. But that they bailed asap is... uh... WTF? lol...
They just got up and walked out, full plates of food, didn't pay, just bailed? why?
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I don't like it either, but it is nothing new. Driving to Los Angles from Houston in the 1980's on Interstate ten I was stopped at a check point in Arizona. Driving back, same thing...
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I don't like it either, but it is nothing new. Driving to Los Angles from Houston in the 1980's on Interstate ten I was stopped at a check point in Arizona. Driving back, same thing...
I call bs. I drove across the south (southern california, arizona, new mexico and texas) through the late 80's and 90's often and never encountered this kind of stop. The only thing we had to deal with were police for speeding. Never a border patrol stop. The first time I'd been pulled over at a checkpoint was in 2007 in Colorado and I was so pissed, by all the videos on the internet, I'm shocked they didn't taze me. I don't think they had any right whatsoever to stop me and I let them know that directly and loudly.
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I don't have any proof, it was 1985, but it did happen...Both going and returning.
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I don't have any proof, it was 1985, but it did happen.
maybe it was state looking for somebody. I mean there is valid reasons to have a checkpoint and those are reasons we would all understand. Where I draw the line is at a general checkpoint to just check the status of every person passing. That's nazi shit imo and 100% not remotely American. If there is a valid reason for a checkpoint, they should state it.
times I drove through the southern states was from 86 to 93.
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how viral have these videos become?
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how viral have these videos become?
not much. a little bit, nothing big.
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I clicked the first vid you posted it already has 72K views!
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I clicked the first vid you posted it already has 72K views!
yea, that's decent/good for listed in June. Not what they would be freaking out viral about. It's good, but not omg.
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maybe it was state looking for somebody. I mean there is valid reasons to have a checkpoint and those are reasons we would all understand. Where I draw the line is at a general checkpoint to just check the status of every person passing. That's nazi shit imo and 100% not remotely American. If there is a valid reason for a checkpoint, they should state it.
times I drove through the southern states was from 86 to 93.
I was asked for ID, my citizenship...
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I was asked for ID, my citizenship... I cooperated humbly.
by who? State? BP?
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Green uniform, Border Patrol, an anglo with that Drill instructor lilt to his voice. Same guy both times, 3 1/2 weeks apart. I spent 3 weeks in Los Angeles in an apartment above an actor and his wife who rented it to me short term.
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Green uniform, Border Patrol, an anglo with that Drill instructor lilt to his voice. Same guy both times, 3 1/2 weeks apart. I spent 3 weeks in Los Angeles in an apartment above an actor and his wife who rented it to me short term.
where did this happen?
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where did this happen?
Where Hwy 191 meets with Interstate 10 at the top of Cochise county.
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Every single one of the fag 'protesters' there is a fucking traitor. This video pissed me off. I hope illegals rape and murder every one of their families.
So what if the border is 50 miles away? If illegals get in so far they should be allowed to stay?
What bullshit. If you aren't an illegal it shouldn't bother you one bit that there was a checkpoint there.
Hugo why do you support this douchebaggery?
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If you aren't an illegal it shouldn't bother you one bit that there was a checkpoint there.
It's not much of a reach to have this sentence read, "If you have nothing to hide,...why should you object to being under scrutiny?"
It's not much of a further reach to have it say, "If you have nothing to hide,...why should you object to random searches of cars?"
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Every single one of the fag 'protesters' there is a fucking traitor. This video pissed me off. I hope illegals rape and murder every one of their families.
So what if the border is 50 miles away? If illegals get in so far they should be allowed to stay?
What bullshit. If you aren't an illegal it shouldn't bother you one bit that there was a checkpoint there.
Hugo why do you support this douchebaggery?
So I'm pro illegals now ::) What you're totally for the 2nd amendment and any attempt to reinterpret it or go around it but fuck the 4th amendment? Priceless... Hereford, why do you support this douchebaggery?
lol
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"saftey stops" ::)
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What you're totally for the 2nd amendment and any attempt to reinterpret it or go around it but fuck the 4th amendment?
I really don't get this mentality from the right either. Selective application of rights at it's finest. I can completely understand reasonable checkpoints, like if a child was recently abducted or something, but this crap of stop everyone in the "hope" that maybe they will find something is just flat out tyranny.
Amazing how people who want less government support this stuff.
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Random checkpoints for the sake of having checkpoints are explicitly unconstitutional. To investigate a crime that recently occured, uniformly applied sobriety checks and other similar things are ok-- But pretty much anything else is 100% unlawful.
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Random checkpoints for the sake of having checkpoints are explicitly unconstitutional. To investigate a crime that recently occured, uniformly applied sobriety checks and other similar things are ok-- But pretty much anything else is 100% unlawful.
Checkpoints for the sake of checkpoints don't exist to my knowledge. There's always some excuse or justification that can be concocted. In the Sitz case allowing sobriety check points, only 1.5% of the stops resulted in arrest. So the Rehnquist court used that small fraction to determine that the States interest outweighed the individuals. And with that type of "reasonableness" test, where is the line drawn?
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They have reasonable suspicion that there are illegals sneaking in using those routes.
I have no problem with them looking for criminals in this manner. The 4th amendment argument is irrelevent here, because there ARE large numbers of criminals going down that road.
Classic leftist argument. Lets allow thousands of criminals to pass freely just so we don't offend anyone on 'constitutional' grounds. Lets ignore the real-world to focus on political correctness so that a bunch of college-liberals can feel good about themselves and get famous on the internet.
Shit like this is an indication that this country is on the decline.
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They have reasonable suspicion that there are illegals sneaking in using those routes.
I have no problem with them looking for criminals in this manner. The 4th amendment argument is irrelevent here, because there ARE large numbers of criminals going down that road.
Classic leftist argument. Lets allow thousands of criminals to pass freely just so we don't offend anyone on 'constitutional' grounds. Lets ignore the real-world to focus on political correctness so that a bunch of college-liberals can feel good about themselves and get famous on the internet.
Shit like this is an indication that this country is on the decline.
idiot.
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They have reasonable suspicion that there are illegals sneaking in using those routes.
I have no problem with them looking for criminals in this manner. The 4th amendment argument is irrelevent here, because there ARE large numbers of criminals going down that road.
Classic leftist argument. Lets allow thousands of criminals to pass freely just so we don't offend anyone on 'constitutional' grounds. Lets ignore the real-world to focus on political correctness so that a bunch of college-liberals can feel good about themselves and get famous on the internet.
Shit like this is an indication that this country is on the decline.
Upholding one of our fundamental constitutional rights is not political correctness. Yes, there are real world implications. But just because the job of catching illegals is harder, does not mean we should ease that burden by giving up our rights.
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Upholding one of our fundamental constitutional rights is not political correctness. Yes, there are real world implications. But just because the job of catching illegals is harder, does not mean we should ease that burden by giving up our rights.
:D
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They have reasonable suspicion that there are illegals sneaking in using those routes.
I have no problem with them looking for criminals in this manner. The 4th amendment argument is irrelevent here,
I stopped reading at this point.
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Simple solution.....only stop cars with brown people in them. :)
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idiot.
ok.