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The FARC are "the best instrument of the U.S. empire" as the fight against the guerrillas has become the pretext for U.S. military presence in Colombia, Bolivian President Evo Morales said Monday.
"The U.S. is using the fight against the FARC to justify their military presence in Colombia. I regret to say: they are the best instrument of the empire at the moment," Morales said at a press conference.
The Bolivian President reiterated his rejection of the military agreement between the U.S. and Colombia allowing the United States to use at least seven Colombian military bases. Morales announced he will defend his position at the next UNASUR meeting to be held in Bariloche, Argentina, on Friday.
cont... http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/5562-farc-is-the-best-instrument-of-the-us-empire-morales.html
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Good thing Evo...ruling the poorest country in Latin America, isn't president of Columbia. he could try and ruin that country as well. Bollivia's number one export...Coke...good job.
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Good thing Evo...ruling the poorest country in Latin America, isn't president of Columbia. he could try and ruin that country as well. Bollivia's number one export...Coke...good job.
i like Coke. way better than Pepsi
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i like Coke. way better than Pepsi
Note: Bolivia, contrary to what HH6 says, is neither the poorest country in Latin America nor is cocaine its # 1 export.
This is the caliber of Gringo that's out there in the world "defending" us.
God have mercy.
Oh, and the country known as "Columbia" does not exist. There is a country known as Colombia though.
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I saw a Documentary about Evo, he seemed like a good honest man.
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Note: Bolivia, contrary to what HH6 says, is neither the poorest country in Latin America nor is cocaine its # 1 export.
This is the caliber of Gringo that's out there in the world "defending" us.
God have mercy.
Oh, and the country known as "Columbia" does not exist. There is a country known as Colombia though.
Bolivia has the lowest GDP per capita in South America, so yes, one can make the argument that it is the poorest country down there. I suggest doing a little bit of research the next time you feel like spouting off. You're like a 12 year old. I suspect this post will be responded to with an insult and a temper tantrum.
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Bolivia has the lowest GDP per capita in South America, so yes, one can make the argument that it is the poorest country down there. I suggest doing a little bit of research the next time you feel like spouting off. You're like a 12 year old. I suspect this post will be responded to with an insult and a temper tantrum.
Dude, listen to me (from human being to human being): READ first and answer second.
HH6 was talking about Latin America. YOU are the one who brought South America into the mix.
The poorest country in Latin America is Haiti.
And I apologize about the highlighting... but I feel it's the only way to get you to sit there and read the entire 5 sentences from beginning to end.
You can't help your cause can't you?
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Dude, listen to me (from human being to human being): READ first and answer second.
HH6 was talking about Latin America.
The poorest country in Latin America is Haiti.
You can't help your cause can't you?
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Hahaha, so your whole argument hinges on the word "Latin" as if anyone gives a shit about Haiti. I think that it's safe to say that he was talking about countries in or around South America in his post considering the whole argument revolves around Bolivia and Colombia, not Haiti. But if that helps you save face, so be it. ::)
Kudos on the use of color, though. :D
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Hahaha, so your whole argument hinges on the word "Latin" as if anyone gives a shit about Haiti.
It's not about giving a shit or not. HH6 said Bolivia was the poorest country in Latin America, which is not true, and I merely wanted to correct AN INCORRECT POINT.
I think that it's safe to say that he was talking about countries in or around South America in his post considering the whole argument revolves around Bolivia and Colombia, not Haiti. But if that helps you save face, so be it. ::)
Well, I think you're underestimating HH6. He may be aggressive and trigger-happy, but his IQ is higher than yours, so I'm pretty sure he knows the difference between a cultural (Latin America) and a geographical entity (South America). Furthermore I suspect that if he wanted to say South America I bet he would've put it in his comment.
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AND, to be fair and square, using your "wealth meter", Bolivia isn't even the second poorest country. Or the third. Honduras and Cuba (wit Nicaragua trailing not far behind) take the cake.
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And that, my friend, is how you dish out a mental whoop-ass.
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Firing off 3 posts in a row is not the definition of a mental whoop ass. It's usually the definition of a meltdown and shows that you're an idiot who doesn't know how to edit posts.
It's pretty obvious you're trying to save face. It's sad but to be expected considering that you have the maturity level of a tween girl. You can continue to bring up Latin American countries that are situated out in the ocean in your vain attempts to prove that you were right. You honestly think he was thinking about countries like Cuba and Haiti in his argument? You're a liar if you say yes.
This thread centers around South America and Bolivia is arguably the poorest country in South America. It was about Evo Morales and the horrendous job he has done leading it. But hey, you can thump your chest and holler about Caribbean countries all you want. In the end, you look like a little kid who won't admit that he's wrong and only proves that you do zero research when making your fallacious claims.
But yes, keep harping on Cuba, Haiti and Honduras until you're satisfied. LOL.
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Haaaaaaahahah ur such a douchebag Slapper wow....but ur right its only the 2nd in all those catagories....so perhaps the only time in ur life u sorta came close to being right..sorta kinda....almost. Oh and if we're playing the spelling game...u better be right on every post shitbag..every post. Oh and u had to actually look up all that info on Bolivia because until this thread I bet u had never heard of Evo....
From the UN
Bolivia's economy is one of the poorest in the Americas, ranking
ahead of only Haiti. The coca plant, the source for the illegal
drug cocaine, has become the cash crop of the country, bringing
millions of dollars to the informal sector of the economy. It is
also the only provider of work for thousands of poor people who
feel the government of the country is unable to provide their
basic necessities. The production of coca in the countryside has
become almost unstoppable, where hundreds of hectares of forest are
being cut yearly for the cultivation of the plant. Also, millions
of toxic chemicals are being dumped into rivers and lands as a
result of the increasing use of pesticides and manufacturing of
cocaine. The real damage to the environment is still to be seen,
but results from these practices are being noticed throughout the
country. The government, with assistance from the United States, is
trying to curtail the expansion of coca but with little success.
One of the major challenges or problems that the government of
Bolivia faces is the fact that many people in Bolivia consider the
coca growing a part of their culture and a necessity for their
economic survival.
2. Description
Bolivia is the world's second largest producer of coca leaf
after Peru and the second largest producer of cocaine after
Colombia. Most of the cocaine refined from Bolivian coca leaf is
consumed in the United States.
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Evo Morales has turned Bolivia into a beacon of success. They're the poorest country in South America but not in all of the Americas. Cause for celebration if I may say so myself. Hip hip hoorah! Socialism wins again!
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Firing off 3 posts in a row is not the definition of a mental whoop ass. It's usually the definition of a meltdown and shows that you're an idiot who doesn't know how to edit posts.
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Keep digging yourself into a hole dude.
It's pretty obvious you're trying to save face. It's sad but to be expected considering that you have the maturity level of a tween girl. You can continue to bring up Latin American countries that are situated out in the ocean in your vain attempts to prove that you were right. You honestly think he was thinking about countries like Cuba and Haiti in his argument? You're a liar if you say yes.
Oh my God. You can't tell the difference between Latin and South America can't you?? ;D ;D
This thread centers around South America and Bolivia is arguably the poorest country in South America.
But... dude, the only one who mentioned SOUTH America here is you...
It was about Evo Morales and the horrendous job he has done leading it. But hey, you can thump your chest and holler about Caribbean countries all you want. In the end, you look like a little kid who won't admit that he's wrong and only proves that you do zero research when making your fallacious claims.
But yes, keep harping on Cuba, Haiti and Honduras until you're satisfied. LOL.
Well, Cuba, Haiti and Honduras are all LATIN American countries, including Bolivia. Since HH6 said LATIN American countries I have to believe what he says. Like I said, if he wanted to say South America he would've said so... don't you think? I understand it is a minor difference, but it is a difference nonetheless and I am in the business of telling the truth (or so I think) so if I know for a fact that you are the biggest asshole in the world and someone else tells me otherwise... well, forgive me if I take the freedom to correct them, but I do have a right to do so.
Can you smell my cockiness as I write this to you?
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Haaaaaaahahah ur such a douchebag Slapper wow....but ur right its only the 2nd in all those catagories....so perhaps the only time in ur life u sorta came close to being right..sorta kinda....almost. Oh and if we're playing the spelling game...u better be right on every post shitbag..every post. Oh and u had to actually look up all that info on Bolivia because until this thread I bet u had never heard of Evo....
From the UN
Bolivia's economy is one of the poorest in the Americas, ranking
ahead of only Haiti. The coca plant, the source for the illegal
drug cocaine, has become the cash crop of the country, bringing
millions of dollars to the informal sector of the economy. It is
also the only provider of work for thousands of poor people who
feel the government of the country is unable to provide their
basic necessities. The production of coca in the countryside has
become almost unstoppable, where hundreds of hectares of forest are
being cut yearly for the cultivation of the plant. Also, millions
of toxic chemicals are being dumped into rivers and lands as a
result of the increasing use of pesticides and manufacturing of
cocaine. The real damage to the environment is still to be seen,
but results from these practices are being noticed throughout the
country. The government, with assistance from the United States, is
trying to curtail the expansion of coca but with little success.
One of the major challenges or problems that the government of
Bolivia faces is the fact that many people in Bolivia consider the
coca growing a part of their culture and a necessity for their
economic survival.
2. Description
Bolivia is the world's second largest producer of coca leaf
after Peru and the second largest producer of cocaine after
Colombia. Most of the cocaine refined from Bolivian coca leaf is
consumed in the United States.
So... you are conceding that Bolivia IS NOT the poorest country in Latin America and that cocaine IS NOT the country's "number one export". This is what YOU said. Not me.
Talk about backtracking.
And do me a favor, when you quote a website, link to the comment itself. You have a certain tendency to missread things.
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Hey slapper..thats great...the fact is Evo is a socialist douchbag and is ruling over a narco state but u keep mincing words.
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So... you are conceding that Bolivia IS NOT the poorest country in Latin America and that cocaine IS NOT the country's "number one export". This is what YOU said. Not me.
Talk about backtracking.
Um...they're second.................. second....second....to Haiti. Congrats u sorta made a point, kinda...which in any debate would be lost on the fact that Evo is failing, his country's major cash crop is coke...and ur an idiot.
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Hey slapper..thats great...the fact is Evo is a socialist douchbag and is ruling over a narco state but u keep mincing words.
who the hell can blame them when this is what capitalism means to them. I'm sure you might freak out if you had to pay 1/4 of your income for water so some fucker living the good life in sunny california can keep up his farrari collection...
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Um...they're second.................. second....second....to Haiti. Congrats u sorta made a point, kinda...which in any debate would be lost on the fact that Evo is failing, his country's major cash crop is coke...and ur an idiot.
Dude, where's the link to that information?
I show Cuba, Hondura and Nicaragua as the poorest nations in Latin America. Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_America#Standard_of_living.2C_consumption.2C_and_the_environment).
And Bolivia's number one export is minerals. Source (http://www.ibce.org.bo/Periodico/comex144/Percomex144-cuerpo.htm).
Let me know if you need help on the translation.
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Um...they're second.................. second....second....to Haiti. Congrats u sorta made a point, kinda...which in any debate would be lost on the fact that Evo is failing, his country's major cash crop is coke...and ur an idiot.
you have a source?
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Oh, and the country known as "Columbia" does not exist. There is a country known as Colombia though.
AND, to be fair and square, using your "wealth meter", Bolivia isn't even the second poorest country. Or the third. Honduras and Cuba (wit Nicaragua trailing not far behind) take the cake.
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Slapper, you can't spell a four letter word and you're giving somebody else grief over spelling?
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who the hell can blame them when this is what capitalism means to them. I'm sure you might freak out if you had to pay 1/4 of your income for water so some fucker living the good life in sunny california can keep up his farrari collection...
Bolivia is a shithole. I thought the wonders of socialism would have done them well? Much like Venezuela is also a beacon of socialist success. Ha ha.
It's amusing. I don't see you rushing down there to help them fight the good fight. You seem to like all the amenities granted you here but you hold a lot of contempt for the system. Feel free to leave and move to the Bolivian countryside and embrace all the wonderful aspects of socialism, hypocrite.
You're really not any different from the terrorists who rail and rail against the west while taking full advantage of everything our society offers them. ;)
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who the hell can blame them when this is what capitalism means to them. I'm sure you might freak out if you had to pay 1/4 of your income for water so some fucker living the good life in sunny california can keep up his farrari collection...
They can be pissed off all they want Hugo...but does Evo need to worry about the US in any way shape or form. He's pissed at the US becuase we're shutting down his coca business. Anything we do to shut down that, hurts his baseline of support. He's done nothing for those people, his country is a shithole and some of u idiots are arguing whos' worse, Haiti or Bolivia.
The country is mostly inhabited by its native population. Bolivia is one of the poorest countries in the South America (70 % of inhabitants live under the poverty line). In addition to its structural weaknesses (size of the debt, feeble pace of growth for poverty reduction, dependance on exterior aid) Bolivia has suffered from the unfavorable regional conditions. The new government elected in 2002 must face strong social resistance towards the establishment of its programme.
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Slapper, you can't spell a four letter word and you're giving somebody else grief over spelling?
I wasn't so much concerned about the spelling, you can check all my posts and you'll find out that that's not my style, I found it "odd", with a capital P ;), he'd call it Columbia instead of Colombia. Same as saying that Roald Engelbregt Gravning Amundsen was the first person to reach the North Face instead of North Pole.
That's all mate.
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Where's Berzerk?
Come on dude, you take everything I say too seriously. I am definitely not smarter than you... do I need to even say it?!
Jesus.
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They can be pissed off all they want Hugo...but does Evo need to worry about the US in any way shape or form. He's pissed at the US becuase we're shutting down his coca business. Anything we do to shut down that, hurts his baseline of support. He's done nothing for those people, his country is a shithole and some of u idiots are arguing whos' worse, Haiti or Bolivia.
The country is mostly inhabited by its native population. Bolivia is one of the poorest countries in the South America (70 % of inhabitants live under the poverty line). In addition to its structural weaknesses (size of the debt, feeble pace of growth for poverty reduction, dependance on exterior aid) Bolivia has suffered from the unfavorable regional conditions. The new government elected in 2002 must face strong social resistance towards the establishment of its programme.
I like your, (none of your concerns are valid, i'll ignore them, I didn't watch the video and won't but expect you to listen) approach to debate. and I didn't argue shit about haiti. you're the one who started that, not me. ::) I just asked for a reference because I was curious to see what the list looks like.
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and BF, save it. I know your game is only to provoke, you couldn't possibly care any less about any of this and we all know it, beat it troll.
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Good thing Evo...ruling the poorest country in Latin America, isn't president of Columbia. he could try and ruin that country as well. Bollivia's number one export...Coke...good job.
Bolivia's number one user of coke - US citizens. Good job USA.
Let's face it, the war on drugs is a farce. The problem is demand, not supply. If you reduce demand, you solve the issue.
The war on drugs is not successful, it never has been and never will be.
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I like your, (none of your concerns are valid, i'll ignore them, I didn't watch the video and won't but expect you to listen) approach to debate. and I didn't argue shit about haiti. you're the one who started that, not me. ::) I just asked for a reference because I was curious to see what the list looks like.
It wasn't directed at u.....they both came from the UN.