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Title: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: DeketheCreep on August 29, 2009, 04:50:03 AM

 Dudes a Beast,he dont even need a spot!!! :o
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Croatch on August 29, 2009, 04:51:41 AM
Just what we need, another guy with shitty calves on steroids. ;)
Translation: I can only press 105lbs these days for 10 reps, but without drugs.

Get some real gains punk. :D
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: DeketheCreep on August 29, 2009, 04:57:07 AM
Just what we need, another guy with shitty calves on steroids. ;)
Translation: I can only press 105lbs these days for 10 reps, but without drugs.

Get some real gains punk. :D
;D
Isnt this guy a pro?
wonder if he will compete
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: webcake on August 29, 2009, 05:00:18 AM
Huge Aryan bastard with muscles and insane strength.

Dude is also a legit millionaire.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: DeketheCreep on August 29, 2009, 05:01:55 AM
Huge Aryan bastard with muscles and insane strength.

Dude is also a legit millionaire.
G4P IS THE WAY ;D
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Marty Champions on August 29, 2009, 05:12:38 AM
gambling with his life
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: younggunz on August 29, 2009, 05:24:17 AM
looks like shit all roid delt and y bother w/ 2 reps coooomon!!!
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on August 29, 2009, 05:25:21 AM
That man is going to say goodbye to his tendons very soon.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: MAXX on August 29, 2009, 05:32:39 AM
i predict a pec tear within a year or two
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 29, 2009, 05:33:39 AM
i predict a pec tear within a year or two
X2.3
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: io856 on August 29, 2009, 05:40:36 AM
Just what we need, another guy with shitty calves on steroids. ;)
Translation: I can only press 105lbs these days for 10 reps, but without drugs.

Get some real gains punk. :D
Translation: the only good bodypart I have and cling onto is my genetically superior calves  ;D even if someone has 40-50lbs more lean muscle mass I can cut their calves down to help me deal with the fact I never took bodybuilding to the next level... man up bitch
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Croatch on August 29, 2009, 06:22:02 AM
Translation: the only good bodypart I have and cling onto is my genetically superior calves  ;D even if someone has 40-50lbs more lean muscle mass I can cut their calves down to help me deal with the fact I never took bodybuilding to the next level... man up bitch
Croatch's shadow...ahah
Next level...does this mean ingesting many drugs, or just buying the thong and posing oil?
Get real.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on August 29, 2009, 07:40:43 AM
i predict a pec tear within a year or two

With those amounts of drugs...it's inevitable (like the Judgement day).
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Man of Steel on August 29, 2009, 08:01:29 AM
He was literally an inch or two from major injury.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: emn1964 on August 29, 2009, 08:13:51 AM
retard strength
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Stavios on August 29, 2009, 08:15:07 AM
Dude is a pro, he won the master nationals this year

Strong as fuck !!!  :o

Great physique also

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_MG_3051_MCTAEAQHIW.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_MG_3057_SJYPUAFPSE.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_MG_3054_MMMNRZRNHA.jpg)
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Stavios on August 29, 2009, 08:15:53 AM
He trains at Westside Barbell also, so I think he knows a thing or two about lifting heavy
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: BIG DUB on August 29, 2009, 08:18:23 AM
After seeing Ronnie do 12 with the 200's, this seems a little weak to me and he's supposed to be stronger?
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Stavios on August 29, 2009, 08:22:47 AM
After seeing Ronnie do 12 with the 200's, this seems a little weak to me and he's supposed to be stronger?

that's 15 more pounds in each hand and at this weight 15 more pounds is a fuck load heavier

there is a video of him playing with the 210'S
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: BIG DUB on August 29, 2009, 08:27:50 AM
that's 15 more pounds in each hand and at this weight 15 more pounds is a fuck load heavier

there is a video of him playing with the 210'S

Not THAT much heavier..and those 210's were fake, you're telling me 5 and15lbs makes that big a difference?
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on August 29, 2009, 08:28:58 AM
Ronnie never was a strong bench presser. Didn't he do 5 plates for 5 partial reps? Could have gotten 3 full ones...not that strong...
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Stavios on August 29, 2009, 08:30:32 AM
Not THAT much heavier..and those 210's were fake, you're telling me 5 and15lbs makes that big a difference?

yop it does
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Smokincrazy on August 29, 2009, 08:31:19 AM
Just what we need, another guy with shitty calves on steroids. ;)
Translation: I can only press 105lbs these days for 10 reps, but without drugs.

Get some real gains punk. :D
Just what we need another natural that complains its all juice.  We live in a athletic world of hormones.  Time to be more realistic.
Translation: Not feeling real good about myself doing the 105's today
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 29, 2009, 08:35:10 AM
Strong mofo.

I wonder why he wraps his elbow sleeves around his knees.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Mars on August 29, 2009, 08:36:28 AM
Ronnie never was a strong bench presser. Didn't he do 5 plates for 5 partial reps? Could have gotten 3 full ones...not that strong...

wish i were not that strong.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Epic_Monster on August 29, 2009, 08:39:19 AM

 Dudes a Beast,he dont even need a spot!!! :o

Fucking tard!
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Mars on August 29, 2009, 08:40:51 AM
hes a kkk wizard.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: DeketheCreep on August 29, 2009, 08:41:42 AM
hes a kkk wizard.
with webcke  :o
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: YoungBlood on August 29, 2009, 08:57:51 AM
that's 15 more pounds in each hand and at this weight 15 more pounds is a fuck load heavier

Agreed. Doesn't seem like much when you add numbers to the total, but when you're actually lifting it, it feels far heavier.
He's lifting Croatch in each hand...and yet Croatch bags on him. Oh wait, it's because Croatch is similar to the scorpion story; it's his nature. He must crusade against all that is drug oriented, no matter how impressive it may be.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Epic_Monster on August 29, 2009, 08:59:56 AM
hes a kkk wizard.

Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: divcom on August 29, 2009, 10:18:26 AM
i hope his cheque is equal to ronnie and jay...or wtf is he lifting that hernia waiting to happen weight for?
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: MAXX on August 29, 2009, 10:30:38 AM
After seeing Ronnie do 12 with the 200's, this seems a little weak to me and he's supposed to be stronger?
he inclined the 210's for 10 reps in another vid
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Pecs on August 29, 2009, 11:42:17 AM
After seeing Ronnie do 12 with the 200's, this seems a little weak to me and he's supposed to be stronger?

you may have a case with the dumbells being fake......... but if not, he is stronger than ronnie.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Baum on August 29, 2009, 11:54:50 AM
he inclined the 210's for 10 reps in another vid
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Pecs on August 29, 2009, 12:40:15 PM
After seeing Ronnie do 12 with the 200's, this seems a little weak to me and he's supposed to be stronger?

No, not 12 on incline.
Ronnie did 6 reps with 200s on the incline and with a little spot. Yes, i know that was his 2nd excercise.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 29, 2009, 02:20:26 PM
Clearly offseason ;)
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Croatch on August 29, 2009, 02:48:50 PM
Just what we need another natural that complains its all juice.  We live in a athletic world of hormones.  Time to be more realistic.
Translation: Not feeling real good about myself doing the 105's today
Not all juice, genetics play a HUGE role.  But to watch someone on tons of gear doing anything, then placing the "hard work" label on it...is a bit silly.

For my average 150lbs weak genetics, I'm happy with my gains.  Even eating shitty and barely training, I'm 210lbs lean @ a dwarfy 5' 7 1/2".

A world of drugs, sure, but be a leader, not a sheep. ;) I know, he's just doing "what he has to" to compete.  That's the funniest comment of them all.  Compete for what?  A $3 trophy and some shmoe's praise? hahah
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on August 29, 2009, 02:55:25 PM
I swear I saw this dude in Venice Italy last September. A big man
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on August 29, 2009, 02:57:10 PM
Not all juice, genetics play a HUGE role.  But to watch someone on tons of gear doing anything, then placing the "hard work" label on it...is a bit silly.

For my average 150lbs weak genetics, I'm happy with my gains.  Even eating shitty and barely training, I'm 210lbs lean @ a dwarfy 5' 7 1/2".

A world of drugs, sure, but be a leader, not a sheep. ;) I know, he's just doing "what he has to" to compete.  That's the funniest comment of them all.  Compete for what?  A $3 trophy and some shmoe's praise? hahah

Exactly. If natural can deadlift close to a 700 pounds, and Johnnie Jackson has deadlifted what, 765? with a suit(!), why should I be impressed? Those couple of pounds make hell of a difference of course but it just doesn't make me impressed...
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: StickStickly on August 29, 2009, 02:59:43 PM
That's pretty awesome stuff right there.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: haider on August 29, 2009, 03:02:59 PM
Just what we need, another guy with shitty calves on steroids. ;)
Translation: I can only press 105lbs these days for 10 reps, but without drugs.

Get some real gains punk. :D
like a broken record... stuck since 2003
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: io856 on August 29, 2009, 04:00:05 PM
Not all juice, genetics play a HUGE role.  But to watch someone on tons of gear doing anything, then placing the "hard work" label on it...is a bit silly.

For my average 150lbs weak genetics, I'm happy with my gains.  Even eating shitty and barely training, I'm 210lbs lean @ a dwarfy 5' 7 1/2".

A world of drugs, sure, but be a leader, not a sheep. ;) I know, he's just doing "what he has to" to compete.  That's the funniest comment of them all.  Compete for what?  A $3 trophy and some shmoe's praise? hahah
You are hypocritical in that you say how pathetic some of the juicers you see are... i.e. you outlift etc... but THEN you say drugs play a HUGE role  too.... even taring apart the "successful" juicers... so basically you have no argument...
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on August 29, 2009, 04:03:48 PM
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Smokincrazy on August 29, 2009, 04:45:56 PM
Not all juice, genetics play a HUGE role.  But to watch someone on tons of gear doing anything, then placing the "hard work" label on it...is a bit silly.

For my average 150lbs weak genetics, I'm happy with my gains.  Even eating shitty and barely training, I'm 210lbs lean @ a dwarfy 5' 7 1/2".

A world of drugs, sure, but be a leader, not a sheep. ;) I know, he's just doing "what he has to" to compete.  That's the funniest comment of them all.  Compete for what?  A $3 trophy and some shmoe's praise? hahah
I sorta get your drift but its hard work whether you take shit or not.  Eating 6-7 meals,prepping,training etc is hard work for a natural or hormonized bodybuilder.  Busting your ass whether you take juice or not is the key.  Juice never guarantees gains.  The user has to make it work.  Arent you ever curious what your limits could be with juice?  I've seen your video and you do train hard and have made good gains for a natural but dont you wonder sometimes?
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on August 29, 2009, 04:59:57 PM

 Dudes a Beast,he dont even need a spot!!! :o

Check out Haystacks Calhoun's son in the black shirt on the left ;D
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: WillGrant on August 29, 2009, 05:09:19 PM
I sorta get your drift but its hard work whether you take shit or not.  Eating 6-7 meals,prepping,training etc is hard work for a natural or hormonized bodybuilder.  Busting your ass whether you take juice or not is the key.  Juice never guarantees gains.  The user has to make it work.  Arent you ever curious what your limits could be with juice?  I've seen your video and you do train hard and have made good gains for a natural but dont you wonder sometimes?
He's at them..Croatch just complains alot cos hes loaded on gear but looks average for a juicer (still looks good though no hating there) as he doesnt have the genes so screams that he's natural in every thread..I guess if you lie so much about being natural you start to beleive it yourself..
Typical bb attitude though..tell everyone they are taking only 5 tabs but in reality they are taking 10 or more.. :D
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Nasty Nate on August 29, 2009, 05:33:50 PM
Not all juice, genetics play a HUGE role.  But to watch someone on tons of gear doing anything, then placing the "hard work" label on it...is a bit silly.

For my average 150lbs weak genetics, I'm happy with my gains.  Even eating shitty and barely training, I'm 210lbs lean @ a dwarfy 5' 7 1/2".

A world of drugs, sure, but be a leader, not a sheep. ;) I know, he's just doing "what he has to" to compete.  That's the funniest comment of them all.  Compete for what?  A $3 trophy and some shmoe's praise? hahah

Funny... a guy on AAS doesn't work hard even though he eats 6-8 meals a day, trains hard 5 days a week, and simply lives bodybuilding 24/7... yet a "natural" who eats like shit and barely trains deserves some sort of respect because he's not using anything... gimme a break... And fyi, pretty much everyone in the NFL and MLB are taking shit... do they not work hard either? They work just as hard, if not harder, than before they were taking stuff.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: mass 04 on August 29, 2009, 05:36:48 PM
looks like shit all roid delt and y bother w/ 2 reps coooomon!!!
translation- You bench 15 lb db's 28 times for a "mind-muscle connection."
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Croatch on August 29, 2009, 06:33:49 PM
like a broken record... stuck since 2003
Correct.  I'll stop once I can go to Gold's Gym and respect people I train with, until then, it's the same rant.
I sorta get your drift but its hard work whether you take shit or not.  Eating 6-7 meals,prepping,training etc is hard work for a natural or hormonized bodybuilder.  Busting your ass whether you take juice or not is the key.  Juice never guarantees gains.  The user has to make it work.  Arent you ever curious what your limits could be with juice?  I've seen your video and you do train hard and have made good gains for a natural but dont you wonder sometimes?
At the end of the day, these guys rely on drugs to set them apart.  Sure, some work hard, harder than I do, or not.  The effort put forth is irrelevant at a certain point.  When your gains are made up of 30% drugs, you're void in my book and outside of getbig....most people's book.  People in general don't respect roid users.  Go ask a few random people their opinion on drug use for muscle, they'll probably all come off the same.
Wonder how I'd look on a bunch of drugs, igf1, insulin, synthol and other cool substances....not at all.  I'd imagine, I'd be bigger, more lean, and could put out the same effort/work, for a much bigger return in size...but at what cost.  Aside from health issues, it's fucking heartless and usually for the weak.
If you're not a pro athlete or make your living by taking drugs, there is no point...period.  Of course, you'll get your local "competitor" who tells himself, "I take drugs because everyone who competes does."  Well, don't compete then...haha.  There isn't much there, other than a big steroid bill and a bunch of shmoes taking pictures of you in a thong.
Funny... a guy on AAS doesn't work hard even though he eats 6-8 meals a day, trains hard 5 days a week, and simply lives bodybuilding 24/7... yet a "natural" who eats like shit and barely trains deserves some sort of respect because he's not using anything... gimme a break... And fyi, pretty much everyone in the NFL and MLB are taking shit... do they not work hard either? They work just as hard, if not harder, than before they were taking stuff.
Who said guys on gear don't work hard?  That would be a straight up, foolish comment.
Remember, there's a big different in a guy who makes a million a year to hit a ball vs. a plumber who can't hack it in the gym, without drugs.  If it's your career and you stand to make millions of dollars, it's at least understandable, especially when most take drugs.  I can't say the same for your typical Gold's Gym goer.  These guys typically, haven't gained much on their own, can't, so they turn to drugs, then hopefully, fool themselves into thinking, "Man, I'vereally made some big gains."
It's pathetic.
Some people can kick ass without drugs, most can't.
The end. ;)
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on August 29, 2009, 08:04:23 PM
Correct.  I'll stop once I can go to Gold's Gym and respect people I train with, until then, it's the same rant.At the end of the day, these guys rely on drugs to set them apart.  Sure, some work hard, harder than I do, or not.  The effort put forth is irrelevant at a certain point.  When your gains are made up of 30% drugs, you're void in my book and outside of getbig....most people's book.  People in general don't respect roid users.  Go ask a few random people their opinion on drug use for muscle, they'll probably all come off the same.
Wonder how I'd look on a bunch of drugs, igf1, insulin, synthol and other cool substances....not at all.  I'd imagine, I'd be bigger, more lean, and could put out the same effort/work, for a much bigger return in size...but at what cost.  Aside from health issues, it's fucking heartless and usually for the weak.
If you're not a pro athlete or make your living by taking drugs, there is no point...period.  Of course, you'll get your local "competitor" who tells himself, "I take drugs because everyone who competes does."  Well, don't compete then...haha.  There isn't much there, other than a big steroid bill and a bunch of shmoes taking pictures of you in a thong.Who said guys on gear don't work hard?  That would be a straight up, foolish comment.
Remember, there's a big different in a guy who makes a million a year to hit a ball vs. a plumber who can't hack it in the gym, without drugs.  If it's your career and you stand to make millions of dollars, it's at least understandable, especially when most take drugs.  I can't say the same for your typical Gold's Gym goer.  These guys typically, haven't gained much on their own, can't, so they turn to drugs, then hopefully, fool themselves into thinking, "Man, I'vereally made some big gains."
It's pathetic.
Some people can kick ass without drugs, most can't.
The end. ;)


My god you are boring.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: kawaks on August 29, 2009, 09:08:20 PM

 Dudes a Beast,he dont even need a spot!!! :o

Cool! Stan is releasing a new video called "how to destroy and injure your physique in 20 seconds or less" - Jean-Pierre Fux Approved!
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Pecs on August 29, 2009, 09:16:25 PM
Exactly. If natural can deadlift close to a 700 pounds, and Johnnie Jackson has deadlifted what, 765? with a suit(!), why should I be impressed? Those couple of pounds make hell of a difference of course but it just doesn't make me impressed...

hmmm.....
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Matt C on August 29, 2009, 09:55:38 PM
hmmm.....

Layne.  ;D
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: bigjoered on August 29, 2009, 10:21:19 PM
Im not quite there yet but I hope to be handling that kind of weight soon ( with dumbells).  Pretty impresive.  How tall do you think that guy is?  I think its easier for shorter guys to press higher numbers.  Maybe thats why Ronnie and Arnold are not known to bench major numbers like say JOJ.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: flexingtonsteele on August 29, 2009, 10:21:41 PM
holy pec tear waiting to happen batman.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: io856 on August 29, 2009, 10:26:24 PM
human kind keeps progressing...

Usain Bolt breaks the 100m record again... we have a guy incline benching 210lbs dbs....

good stuff
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Signifying Monkey on August 29, 2009, 10:43:55 PM
human kind keeps progressing...

Usain Bolt breaks the 100m record again... we have a guy incline benching 210lbs dbs....

good stuff

Oh brother, the two are not even comparable. Pretty sure I've seen pics of a dude incline benching 210s in the 1960s
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: nzmusclemonster on August 30, 2009, 12:16:06 AM
Oh brother, the two are not even comparable. Pretty sure I've seen pics of a dude incline benching 210s in the 1960s

I incline my cock.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: io856 on August 30, 2009, 01:17:24 AM
Oh brother, the two are not even comparable. Pretty sure I've seen pics of a dude incline benching 210s in the 1960s
boooooooolshit
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Signifying Monkey on August 30, 2009, 01:38:59 AM
boooooooolshit
::)
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Mars on August 30, 2009, 01:39:41 AM
boooooooolshit

hi dave.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Signifying Monkey on August 30, 2009, 01:40:27 AM
http://www.oldtimestrongman.com/blog/2007/11/pat-casey-210-pound-dumbbell-incline.html

Knock yourself out, iostupidcocksucker
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: WillGrant on August 30, 2009, 01:48:59 AM
hi dave.
lol i was thinking the same thing..
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: io856 on August 30, 2009, 01:49:53 AM
http://www.oldtimestrongman.com/blog/2007/11/pat-casey-210-pound-dumbbell-incline.html

Knock yourself out, iostupidcocksucker
damn... thats pretty cool
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Signifying Monkey on August 30, 2009, 01:50:59 AM
damn... thats pretty cool

yes it is
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on August 30, 2009, 02:12:37 AM
Layne.  ;D

Bad example.  ;)
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: jon cole on August 30, 2009, 02:18:51 AM
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Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: crownshep on August 30, 2009, 04:29:35 AM
Pat Casey repped the 180s while still a teenager.
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: Smokincrazy on August 30, 2009, 09:23:18 AM
human kind keeps progressing...

Usain Bolt breaks the 100m record again... we have a guy incline benching 210lbs dbs....

good stuff
Definitely agree
Title: Re: Stan Efferding Inclining 215s!
Post by: rccs on August 30, 2009, 09:34:42 AM
What a bunch of envy fuckers here on getbig...  ;D If a guy is on shitloads of drugs and is not strong is criticized... if a guy is on shitloads of drugs and is strong is also criticized.. ;D anyway I bet that most powerlifters at westside probably feel like tits compared to this guy...