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I found this thread about some dude that spoke to Brian Dobson at MetroFlex, and apparently he outlined Ronnie's cycle...of course everybody starts flaming the post right after....I was LMAO
"My best friend works at Metroflex and he told me the other day he was talking to Brian Dobson and were talking about drug use in the pro and amatuer level. Anyway, my friend asked B.D. if he knew what kind of cycles the pros were doing and he told him the outline of Ronnies cycles. To be honest I was kinda shocked at how little he took cuz I was expecting it to be a crazy amount of gear similar to Dorians cycle that was posted. Anyway this is what B.D. told my friend Ronnie takes.
1500mg test/week
400mg deca/week
6 iu gh/day
20iu slin/post workout
He says he stay on all year and three to four months out from a contest he takes
50mg winstrol/day
20mg halotestin/day
75mcg T3/day
I still can't believe he takes so little gear. I am pretty sure this is what Ronnies take because B.D. is really good friends with Ronnie."
Here is the link:
http://www.elitefitness.com/bodybuilding/anabolic-steroids/02-2001/051088.html
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welcome to hollywood!
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Yeah maybe Ronnie started out at that but he certainly was doing more than that. Through anonomyous source I was told Ronnie was talking to an national level competitor and the guy was wondering why he couldn't get bigger. Ronnie asked him how much he was eating and the guy told him and Ronnie said you have to eat more, alot more. Ronnie then asked him about his drugs. They told him Ronnie said that's good just quadrupal it.... :-X
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I found this thread about some dude that spoke to Brian Dobson at MetroFlex, and apparently he outlined Ronnie's cycle...of curse everybody starts flaming the postright after....was LMAO
"My best friend works at Metroflex and he told me the other day he was talking to Brian Dobson and were talking about drug use in the pro and amatuer level. Anyway, my friend asked B.D. if he knew what kind of cycles the pros were doing and he told him the outline of Ronnies cycles. To be honest I was kinda shocked at how little he took cuz I was expecting it to be a crazy amount of gear similar to Dorians cycle that was posted. Anyway this is what B.D. told my friend Ronnie takes.
1500mg test/week
400mg deca/week
6 iu gh/day
20iu slin/post workout
He says he stay on all year and three to four months out from a contest he takes
50mg winstrol/day
20mg halotestin/day
75mcg T3/day
I still can't believe he takes so little gear. I am pretty sure this is what Ronnies take because B.D. is really good friends with Ronnie."
Here is the link:
http://www.elitefitness.com/bodybuilding/anabolic-steroids/02-2001/051088.html
if you actually believe a word of that................well, i was actually going to say something mean about your intellectual prowess............but i realize you want to believe this, and there is nothing that can be done for people like you.
but i query.......that ridiculous jump that ronnie made around 97-98 was due in very large part to chad nicholes..............ch ad is not known for anything in regards to training or diet, he is known as chemical guru, whose theories center around many compounds in very high doses.
whatever though........lets just chalk it up to ronnie starting to train and eat much harder in 1997 ::) ::)
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When did I say that i believed this? Did i miss something? :-\
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When did I say that i believed this? Did i miss something? :-\
i wasn't really referring to you specifically......i was addressing the broad swath of bodybuilders who believe this bullshit.........brian dobson is one of colemans most dear friends, obviously he is not going to fully disclose ronnies steroid protocols, which ronnie most likely spent 10s of thousands of dollars learning from chad........doubtful ronnie even disclosed most of it to brian.
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Ive heard hes only on 500mg ew right now
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welcome to hollywood!
King Avidan crushed Paula's heart which caused her to spiral down into her drug abusive ways. Ron's a lady killer.
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if you actually believe a word of that................well, i was actually going to say something mean about your intellectual prowess............but i realize you want to believe this, and there is nothing that can be done for people like you.
but i query.......that ridiculous jump that ronnie made around 97-98 was due in very large part to chad nicholes..............ch ad is not known for anything in regards to training or diet, he is known as chemical guru, whose theories center around many compounds in very high doses.
whatever though........lets just chalk it up to ronnie starting to train and eat much harder in 1997 ::) ::)
I don't think that cycle is that unrealistic. I don't think Pros necessarily take much more than Amateurs or insane Hobby-BBs.
It's much, but not too much. You really think if that guy was on 5-6 grams a week for decades he would still be on stage and comparatively healthy in his Mid-40s? ::)
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I don't think that cycle is that unrealistic. I don't think Pros necessarily take much more than Amateurs or insane Hobby-BBs.
It's much, but not too much. You really think if that guy was on 5-6 grams a week for decades he would still be on stage and comparatively healthy in his Mid-40s? ::)
Very true
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The 1500mg of test is consistent with what Milos said that Chad advises his guys to use so it mabey legit? I do know that Chad like to use the slin 3 times in a day mabey once or twice per week though.
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somehow i think its more like 1500 test and 400 deca EOD instead of every week....
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2 grams anabolics + gh & slin is a 'little' ???
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I heard that he take or took like 15UI of GH a day.
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I heard that he take or took like 15UI of GH a day.
ruhl takes/took 30 ui gh a day.
from a source of mine.
no debate here.period
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plasma expanders
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ruhl takes/took 30 ui gh a day.
from a source of mine.
no debate here.period
Wow..I wonder what the long term effect to the body is from taking 30 iu's of Growth Hormone a day. Gotta say one thing for these guys, they have no fear of the potential horrors that may await them in their future. True human guinea pigs.
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but lets make clear smthing here. it doesn't mean that if someone takes this amount could become ronnie or marcus.
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To be honest I was kinda shocked at how little he took cuz I was expecting it to be a crazy amount of gear similar to Dorians cycle that was posted. Anyway this is what B.D. told my friend Ronnie takes.
1500mg test/week
400mg deca/week
6 iu gh/day
20iu slin/post workout
I still can't believe he takes so little gear. I am pretty sure this is what Ronnies take because B.D. is really good friends with Ronnie."
Are you kidding?? Between the test and deca, that's almost 2000mg of AAS a week, 52 weeks a year. You think that's a "little"? For reference, that's 20 times the amount of test produced naturally in a week. HRT doses are 100-200mg/week, and a "cycle" using 600mg/wk can produce good gains. Granted, everyone is different, and you do have idiot low-responders shooting more than that and getting jack from it, but as a general rule, what Ronnie is taking is a lot. Oh, and I hope he's adding in HCG every so often, or his nuts are probably the size of raisins by now.
As to the GH, 6IU might be "small" by gh15 standards, but seriously... people using it for "replacment" are on usually 1 IU, sometimes 2 IU a day. That's still 3-6 times normal physiological dose.
I completely believe that's Ronnie's regimen. He's got great genetics, and in the grand scheme of things, those doses ain't "small" at all.
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ruhl takes/took 30 ui gh a day.
from a source of mine.
no debate here.period
Rumors has it that Nasser already in the early 90s took 48 IUs of GH a day. But the real GH from corpses back then, not the sytethic stuff which is used nowadays.
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Are you kidding?? Between the test and deca, that's almost 2000mg of AAS a week, 52 weeks a year. You think that's a "little"? For reference, that's 20 times the amount of test produced naturally in a week. HRT doses are 100-200mg/week, and a "cycle" using 600mg/wk can produce good gains. Granted, everyone is different, and you do have idiot low-responders shooting more than that and getting jack from it, but as a general rule, what Ronnie is taking is a lot. Oh, and I hope he's adding in HCG every so often, or his nuts are probably the size of raisins by now.
As to the GH, 6IU might be "small" by gh15 standards, but seriously... people using it for "replacment" are on usually 1 IU, sometimes 2 IU a day. That's still 3-6 times normal physiological dose.
I completely believe that's Ronnie's regimen. He's got great genetics, and in the grand scheme of things, those doses ain't "small" at all.
god bless you goatboy.........your a good poster.........but if you actually believe anything you stated in that last post, you have ALOT to learn about bodybuilding and bodybuilders.
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Rumors has it that Nasser already in the early 90s took 48 IUs of GH a day. But the real GH from corpses back then, not the sytethic stuff which is used nowadays.
Not true..The corpse derived Growth Hormone was mostly taken off the market by the early 80's due to the presence of the prion that causes the Mad cow type syndrome known as Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease..which literally destroys your brain. Bodybuilders have been using the synthetic recombinant Growth hormone since about 1983. No reason that Nasser would use the highly dangerous cadaver derived G.H. in the 90's.
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ronnie cycle pre contest :
-test e 1 gr/week
-tren 100 mg/day
-winny 100 mg/day
-gh20 ui/day
-slin clen t3 etc etc
2 hours of cardio /day
600 gr of protin /day.
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Believe me when I say that Ronnie is actually on the low end of the scale when it comes to aas.
Brian Dobson takes more than Ronnie,
And no, I'm not joking
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I found this thread about some dude that spoke to Brian Dobson at MetroFlex, and apparently he outlined Ronnie's cycle...of course everybody starts flaming the post right after....I was LMAO
"My best friend works at Metroflex and he told me the other day he was talking to Brian Dobson and were talking about drug use in the pro and amatuer level. Anyway, my friend asked B.D. if he knew what kind of cycles the pros were doing and he told him the outline of Ronnies cycles. To be honest I was kinda shocked at how little he took cuz I was expecting it to be a crazy amount of gear similar to Dorians cycle that was posted. Anyway this is what B.D. told my friend Ronnie takes.
1500mg test/week
400mg deca/week
6 iu gh/day
20iu slin/post workout
He says he stay on all year and three to four months out from a contest he takes
50mg winstrol/day
20mg halotestin/day
75mcg T3/day
I still can't believe he takes so little gear. I am pretty sure this is what Ronnies take because B.D. is really good friends with Ronnie."
Here is the link:
http://www.elitefitness.com/bodybuilding/anabolic-steroids/02-2001/051088.html
Whatthefuckever! Nobody knows what Ronnie used in his heyday except for Ronnie... wait- he probably doesn't either to a detailed degree- except for Chad.
Brian Dobson would never ever start telling some schmoe at the gym what Ronnie may use.
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god bless you goatboy.........your a good poster.........but if you actually believe anything you stated in that last post, you have ALOT to learn about bodybuilding and bodybuilders.
What is your experience with anabolics and bodybuilding that you seem to "know better" ?
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2 grams anabolics + gh & slin is a 'little' ???
Exactly...it amazes me what people think about dosages, that's not alot ????, i know there's plenty of pro's who use way more, but trust me when i say that if 1500mg of test and 400mg of deca + 6iu of GH, followed with 20 iu's of insulin postworkout ain't alot, you should think about choosing another hobby.
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Believe me when I say that Ronnie is actually on the low end of the scale when it comes to aas.
Brian Dobson takes more than Ronnie,
And no, I'm not joking
I agree with this post.
He also wears tighter and lower cut shorts than Ronnie does also.
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Believe me when I say that Ronnie is actually on the low end of the scale when it comes to aas.
Brian Dobson takes more than Ronnie,
And no, I'm not joking
hi ronnie ;D j/k how are you so in the know on this?
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if you actually believe a word of that................well, i was actually going to say something mean about your intellectual prowess............but i realize you want to believe this, and there is nothing that can be done for people like you.
but i query.......that ridiculous jump that ronnie made around 97-98 was due in very large part to chad nicholes..............ch ad is not known for anything in regards to training or diet, he is known as chemical guru, whose theories center around many compounds in very high doses.
whatever though........lets just chalk it up to ronnie starting to train and eat much harder in 1997 ::) ::)
There wasn't a ridiculous jump in 97-98. He just got his condition right. His jump was more 1995 to 1996 but in 1996 he was close to the 98 size and just fucked up at th 97 O.
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There wasn't a ridiculous jump in 97-98. He just got his condition right. His jump was more 1995 to 1996 but in 1996 he was close to the 98 size and just fucked up at th 97 O.
im not a ronnie historian,......i know i was probably off with my years a little
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400mg deca/week
My hair would be gone after 1 year, even with this little dosage.
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Ronnie's a natural!!!
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I dunno what its like in America but gym dosages here are 750-1000mg test e or sust a wk,400-600mg deca or equip a wk and 4iu gh daily
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Tripple those doses and you are getting closer.
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Tripple those doses and you are getting closer.
Im not saying nobody here uses more than that,but that kinda cycle is the norm
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Im not saying nobody here uses more than that,but that kinda cycle is the norm
I was refering to the post about Ronnies doses lol ;D
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why is deca so popular?
what would the difference be adding that vs just more test, let's say 1000mg test + 500mg deca vs just 1500mg test ???
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I found this thread about some dude that spoke to Brian Dobson at MetroFlex, and apparently he outlined Ronnie's cycle...of course everybody starts flaming the post right after....I was LMAO
"My best friend works at Metroflex and he told me the other day he was talking to Brian Dobson and were talking about drug use in the pro and amatuer level. Anyway, my friend asked B.D. if he knew what kind of cycles the pros were doing and he told him the outline of Ronnies cycles. To be honest I was kinda shocked at how little he took cuz I was expecting it to be a crazy amount of gear similar to Dorians cycle that was posted. Anyway this is what B.D. told my friend Ronnie takes.
1500mg test/week
400mg deca/week
6 iu gh/day
20iu slin/post workout
He says he stay on all year and three to four months out from a contest he takes
50mg winstrol/day
20mg halotestin/day
75mcg T3/day
I still can't believe he takes so little gear. I am pretty sure this is what Ronnies take because B.D. is really good friends with Ronnie."
Here is the link:
http://www.elitefitness.com/bodybuilding/anabolic-steroids/02-2001/051088.html
Posts like this make me laugh. Don't believe everything you read / hear.
No one in their right mind on that level would post their cycle on the internet for all to see with all the feds, dea, undercovers and other forms of law lurking around.
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why is deca so popular?
what would the difference be adding that vs just more test, let's say 1000mg test + 500mg deca vs just 1500mg test ???
one of the reasons deca is so popular is that it is chemically deactivated in the prostate, scalp, and skin. this means that while muscle tissues absorb the compound and benefit from it, the cells in the prostate, scalp, and skin do not... therefore prostate growth, baldness, and acne, the dreaded side effects of anabolic steroids, arent really a problem with deca...
It also increased red blood cell production leads to greater endurance during bb and cardio, the appetite is stimulated as well. also bone density is actually increased too, making deca very popular with powerlifters. bottom line – deca makes you grow :)
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one of the reasons deca is so popular is that it is chemically deactivated in the prostate, scalp, and skin. this means that while muscle tissues absorb the compound and benefit from it, the cells in the prostate, scalp, and skin do not... therefore prostate growth, baldness, and acne, the dreaded side effects of anabolic steroids, arent really a problem with deca...
It also increased red blood cell production leads to greater endurance during bb and cardio, the appetite is stimulated as well. also bone density is actually increased too, making deca very popular with powerlifters. bottom line – deca makes you grow :)
clear like water...
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one of the reasons deca is so popular is that it is chemically deactivated in the prostate, scalp, and skin. this means that while muscle tissues absorb the compound and benefit from it, the cells in the prostate, scalp, and skin do not... therefore prostate growth, baldness, and acne, the dreaded side effects of anabolic steroids, arent really a problem with deca...
It also increased red blood cell production leads to greater endurance during bb and cardio, the appetite is stimulated as well. also bone density is actually increased too, making deca very popular with powerlifters. bottom line – deca makes you grow :)
side effects aren't a problem? then why did you sat this?
My hair would be gone after 1 year, even with this little dosage.
i'm too scared to try aas because of the possible side effects, like hairloss and gyno. To me that would outweigh the benefits
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LMAO...and Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny are also real. True. A guy at my gym confirmed it.
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side effects aren't a problem? then why did you sat this?
i'm too scared to try aas because of the possible side effects, like hairloss and gyno. To me that would outweigh the benefits
I had pretty much all side effects, light hairloss, gyno, decadick... from test/deca stack.
Welcome to the wonderful world of genetic lottery.
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I had pretty much all side effects, light hairloss, gyno, decadick... from test/deca stack.
Welcome to the wonderful world of genetic lottery.
i wonder what causes that? some get everything others barely nothing... can it be only genetics? not dose or diet related, like higher vs lower intakes of fat would cause more/less gyno for example?...
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i wonder what causes that? some get everything others barely nothing... can it be only genetics? not dose or diet related, like higher vs lower intakes of fat would cause more/less gyno for example?...
It's all fucking genetics.
I had tamox for gyno, viagra for decadick, but after 4 month the hairloss was pretty bad than i stopped... after that test only, almost no sideeffects.
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Posts like this make me laugh. Don't believe everything you read / hear.
No one in their right mind on that level would post their cycle on the internet for all to see with all the feds, dea, undercovers and other forms of law lurking around.
That's not the reason to not believe posts like this. Newsflash: everyone knows what bodybuilders do. The reason not to believe it is because bodybuilders are insecure liars.
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It's all fucking genetics.
I had tamox for the gyno, viagra for decadick, but after 4 month the hairloss was pretty bad than i stopped... after that test only, almost no sideeffects.
interesting! then why did you say deca didn't have the sides? if test only is 'safer'
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interesting! then why did you say deca didn't have the sides? if test only is 'safer'
I haven't used deca but it seems possible that the two compounds together could produce sides that you wouldn't get from one or the other alone. Rx's T might have been more prone to dht conversion or aromatase when there's deca floating around and prolactin issues. Prolactin and aromatase is gyno city I would think.
Have to disagree with you Rx about sides being all genetics tho. A vegetable rich diet will help with all sorts of issues imo. Of course, genetics will be a factor as with anything and having ancillaries on hand is prudent, but I don't believe good or bad diet and lifestyle will have no impact. Whether it's up to the challenge is the question.
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Have to disagree with you Rx about sides being all genetics tho. A vegetable rich diet will help with all sorts of issues imo. Of course, genetics will be a factor as with anything and having ancillaries on hand is prudent, but I don't believe good or bad diet and lifestyle will have no impact. Whether it's up to the challenge is the question.
You're right Tape, it's not really all genetics. With a good vegetable rich diat you can countersteer some of the side effects, if you body responds to it.
But i'm not a perfect diet type of guy, i love to eat and bulk ;)
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That's not the reason to not believe posts like this. Newsflash: everyone knows what bodybuilders do. The reason not to believe it is because bodybuilders are insecure liars.
Yup..
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Comeone all Chad's cycles are 5-6 grams high dose orals and a lot of insulin try it see what happens. You will grow 2 lbs a week tell your near 300
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Comeone all Chad's cycles are 5-6 grams high dose orals and a lot of insulin try it see what happens. You will grow 2 lbs a week tell your near 300
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thats some protocal and food and other supp's to cleanse the body for such an overload...
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some people are hyper responders... no matter what you tell people what you take...they will think you are full of shit... they take 3 times what you take and look nothing like you. so they assume you take much more then they are because you look better then them... in reality you are a hyper responder(plus genes) and respond to much less.
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some people are hyper responders... no matter what you tell people what you take...they will think you are full of shit... they take 3 times what you take and look nothing like you. so they assume you take much more then they are because you look better then them... in reality you are a hyper responder(plus genes) and respond to much less.
every one knows for a fact his guru usually has his clients use 5-6 grams plus heavy orals high slin .
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Ronnies latest cycle
(http://www.mountsidemobility.co.uk/healthcare/walking_frame_3_wheeled_tw008.gif)
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Ronnies latest cycle
(http://www.mountsidemobility.co.uk/healthcare/walking_frame_3_wheeled_tw008.gif)
Haha very funny :)