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Scarborough: Obama Admin Must Have Signed Off On Lockerbie Terrorist Release
Video:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2009/08/31/scarborough-obama-admin-must-have-signed-lockerbie-terrorist-relea
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::) How the hell would he do that? Silly Scarborough, the last king of scotland isn't Obama, it's just a movie. even brown didn't have anything to do with it.
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::) How the hell would he do that? Silly Scarborough, the last king of scotland isn't Obama, it's just a movie. even brown didn't have anything to do with it.
You can sure as hell bet they were told beforehand.
Notice how Obama didnt even say shit about this outrage? He gave lip service to this obscenity which leads me to believe he either knew about it, or agrees with it.
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::) How the hell would he do that? Silly Scarborough, the last king of scotland isn't Obama, it's just a movie. even brown didn't have anything to do with it.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6814939.ece
Lockerbie bomber 'set free for oil'
The British government decided it was “in the overwhelming interests of the United Kingdom” to make Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi, the Lockerbie bomber, eligible for return to Libya, leaked ministerial letters reveal.
Gordon Brown’s government made the decision after discussions between Libya and BP over a multi-million-pound oil exploration deal had hit difficulties. These were resolved soon afterwards.
The letters were sent two years ago by Jack Straw, the justice secretary, to Kenny MacAskill, his counterpart in Scotland, who has been widely criticised for taking the formal decision to permit Megrahi’s release.
The correspondence makes it plain that the key decision to include Megrahi in a deal with Libya to allow prisoners to return home was, in fact, taken in London for British national interests.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6814939.ece
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that article is 100% pure fiction and scarborough should get axed for it. Or spend a week retracting it and telling everyone how utterly retarded he is.
proof Scarborough is a full of shit ignoramous
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6814939.ece
Lockerbie bomber 'set free for oil'
The British government decided it was “in the overwhelming interests of the United Kingdom” to make Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi, the Lockerbie bomber, eligible for return to Libya, leaked ministerial letters reveal.
Gordon Brown’s government made the decision after discussions between Libya and BP over a multi-million-pound oil exploration deal had hit difficulties. These were resolved soon afterwards.
The letters were sent two years ago by Jack Straw, the justice secretary, to Kenny MacAskill, his counterpart in Scotland, who has been widely criticised for taking the formal decision to permit Megrahi’s release.
The correspondence makes it plain that the key decision to include Megrahi in a deal with Libya to allow prisoners to return home was, in fact, taken in London for British national interests.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6814939.ece
That information came from the douchebag that flew him back home. ::) Listen to the vids I posted and listen carefully and in full. And the only thing Brown did was express that the release should be low key and senitive. He had no decision in it and neither did Obama.
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hahahaha 33 normally considers MSNBC to be garbage, and doesn't watch it.
Today he agrees with it.
If you had awatched all morning, as I did today, you'd see your headline is quite misleading. JoeS spent a few minutes asking quesitons, then said:
'SCARBOROUGH: If this did not end up at the White House, Mike Barnicle, I would be shocked."
Diff between "Obama signed off on it" and "I'd be shocked if the white hosue didn' tknow about it"
hahaha 33, you're stretching. people stretch like this when they don't have the evidence but they really want it to be true.
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James posted this not me.
Needless to say, Obama's reaction to this was utterly disgusting as an American.
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Scarborough is still an uninformed idiot on the matter to say that much. it's explained very well in the vids I posted. A statement made that I can't fathom someone covering news and current issues wouldn't have seen. He needs to do his homework or just shut up.
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James posted this not me.
Needless to say, Obama's reaction to this was utterly disgusting as an American.
::) Right, I'm sure you would rather have the neocon invade scotland for supporting terrorism option fully open.
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::) Right, I'm sure you would rather have the neocon invade scotland for supporting terrorism option fully open.
Maybe something other than a fleeting comment on his way to lavish vacation on the beach for a week on a fat cats' $40 million dollar compound would have been nice.
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OMG, 3333, yea totally appauling reaction by Obama ::) You douche ::)
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why you keep working on losing any spec of cred you have left is lost on me 333.
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OMG, 3333, yea totally appauling reaction by Obama ::) You douche ::)
GMAFB Hugo.
He looked like he was talking about what he had for dinner, not the release of a terrorist savage who murdered over 100 Americans.
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He "looks like".
And "You can sure as hell bet "...
Come on dude, you can sey he "looks like" anything. Evidence talks, your assumptions run the marathon.
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GMAFB Hugo.
He looked like he was talking about what he had for dinner, not the release of a terrorist savage who murdered over 100 Americans.
::) right, so he should have been slaming his fists down on the table as he said they condemned the release so you idiots could then post videos of him looking like he's having a tantrum and you psychos would use it in every inappropriate manner possible.
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He "looks like".
And "You can sure as hell bet "...
Come on dude, you can sey he "looks like" anything. Evidence talks, your assumptions run the marathon.
Did he say they tried to stop it? No.
Did he say he was outraged over hit? No.
Did he say he was unaware of this? No.
When someone is genuiniely upset or pissed off at something, their body language, words, demeanor, etc show it.
Obama looked like he could care less.
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He "looks like".
And "You can sure as hell bet "...
Come on dude, you can sey he "looks like" anything. Evidence talks, your assumptions run the marathon.
If you're talking about Scarborough, he said: "Anybody that works in Washington for more than a day knows the British government is not going to release a terrorist that killed American kids without getting the OK from the American government...If this did not end up at the White House, Mike Barnicle, I would be shocked."
Shows how clueless he is too, the brits had no call in the release other than requesting it be low profile and sensitive. The release negotiations prior to his illness were covered with washington and they decided to keep him in prison. When it became a matter of him dying, it then brought up scotish law that was acted on and that washington had nothing to do with. The vids explain it well from the man who made the decision.
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Did he say they tried to stop it? No.
Did he say he was outraged over hit? No.
Did he say he was unaware of this? No.
When someone is genuiniely upset or pissed off at something, their body language, words, demeanor, etc show it.
Obama looked like he could care less.
Did you watch the video, No
Did you watch the video, No
Did you watch the video, No
Did you watch the video, No
or
It was above your head.
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OMG, 3333, yea totally appauling reaction by Obama ::) You douche ::)
Also Hugo - if Obama contacted the Lybian govt to make sure this murderer did not get a heros' welcome upon landing,
HOW GOOD DID THAT WORK OUT FOR HIM????
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Also Hugo - if Obama contacted the Lybian govt to make sure this murderer did not get a heros' welcome upon landing,
HOW GOOD DID THAT WORK OUT FOR HIM????
what's your point? Obama is king of scots and ruler of Lybia? What comic book are you living in? You really want him to be Rudy :-\ Thanks but no thanks. That's one reason I wouldn't have voted for Obama. The day he said he would handle it like Rudy is the day I'd have said fuck that.
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what's your point? Obama is king of scots and ruler of Lybia? What comic book are you living in? You really want him to be Rudy :-\ Thanks but no thanks. That's one reason I wouldn't have voted for Obama. The day he said he would handle it like Rudy is the day I'd have said fuck that.
Rudy had balls. Obama has a vagina.
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Rudy had balls.
maybe in his mouth.
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Ok. Good one Hugo. Ill give you that. ;D
However, when Rudy threw out Arafat from the opera, and then refused the SA check for $10,000,000 he was showing balls.
Just like Reagan did.
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Ok. Good one Hugo. Ill give you that. ;D
However, when Rudy threw out Arafat from the opera, and then refused the SA check for $10,000,000 he was showing balls.
Just like Reagan did.
I don't call appeasing a very well funded group of voters having balls. The politician with balls is the politician that is in the slightest critical of Israel. That's balls because dude is probably done in American Politics. What he did didn't take balls.
What did Rudy do when eyes he wanted watching were not watching?
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Rudy_Giuliani_and_his_connections_to_1129.html
That's what I call being a hypocrite ;D
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I agree with Scarborough and Buchanan. I seriously doubt Obama didn't know about this and give either explicit or tacit approval.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: I'm talking about the British deal: oil for terrorists. And Chuck Todd earlier today said the White House needs to answer questions: what did the president know, when did he know it? Did the administration know about this deal? Did they go along with it?
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PAT BUCHANAN: It's hard for me to believe that the British government, Gordon Brown and these other folks, working these things out with Scotland to let this terrorist go, who has killed 260 or 270 people, including about five dozen American school kids, that they would let him go and not give the White House a heads-up as to what is coming down the pike.
SCARBOROUGH: This is just one of those stories that smells from the very beginning. They set up that Scottish guy to hold the press conference, like he's going to release the biggest terrorist this side of al Qaeda? . . . No! You knew the British government was attached. We predicted it last week; it's come true. Then that raises the next question: what's the link between Great Britain's government and the U.S. government? Anybody that works in Washington for more than a day knows the British government is not going to release a terrorist that killed American kids without getting the OK from the American government.
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SCARBOROUGH: Because of that celebration, this is the end of Gordon Brown's government; there's no surviving this, is there? This is the last straw.
BUCHANAN: I don't think there is any surviving: this guy is just holding on . . . My guess is this thing went up the food chain at State [Department] and went up the food chain through the NSC.
SCARBOROUGH: If this did not end up at the White House, Mike Barnicle, I would be shocked.
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what proof do you have of this. Looks like you're joining the growing movement of rightwing CTrs.
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what proof do you have of this. Looks like you're joining the growing movement of rightwing CTrs.
None. Just common sense.
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what proof do you have of this. Looks like you're joining the growing movement of rightwing CTrs.
hahah yes, BB is quite the CTer these days. No proof needed when a dem is in office!
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None. Just common sense.
I posted videos showing this was a Scottish decision and to what extent the US was involved. You're now officially a CTr, not shockingly along with a quickly growing group on the right... Where was your common sense during the Bush years lol...
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hahah yes, BB is quite the CTer these days. No proof needed when a dem is in office!
240 - you are a smart guy - even though we both know you like to play dumb sometimes.
Do you really think we did not know this was coming down the pike?
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I posted videos showing this was a Scottish decision and to what extent the US was involved. You're now officially a CTr, not shockingly along with a quickly growing group on the right... Where was your common sense during the Bush years lol...
Well I ain't watching 20 (or even 10) minutes of some guy giving a speech. Did he say he had no discussions with the Obama administration before the decision to release was made?
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Well I ain't watching 20 (or even 10) minutes of some guy giving a speech. Did he say he had no discussions with the Obama administration before the decision to release was made?
"Some guy giving a speech" ::) It's a statement of the person responsible for the decision explaining the history of it and why it was done... yes, he asserted it was his decision and that he acted on specific Scottish Law and with precedent and tradition. Prior to that there was an understanding with the Obama Admin that he would not be released. That's right, Obama argued to secure his place behind bars, but do you or scarborough bring that up? nope.... THEN when he became terminally ill, it brought up internal Scottish Law that Kenny MacAskill acted seperate from any dealing with America or Brown on.
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yes, he asserted it was his decision and that he acted on specific Scottish Law and with precedent and tradition. Prior to that there was an understanding with the Obama Admin that he would not be released. That's right, Obama argued to secure his place behind bars, but do you or scarborough bring that up? nope.... THEN when he became terminally ill, it brought up internal Scottish Law that Kenny MacAskill acted seperate from any dealing with America or Brown on.
That's sort of a squirrelly response. Did he specifically say that he had no discussions with the Obama Administration before the decision was made? You said "yes," but the rest of your response doesn't really support an unqualified "yes."
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240 - you are a smart guy - even though we both know you like to play dumb sometimes.
Do you really think we did not know this was coming down the pike?
I think we probably got a 'heads up' on it.
What SHOULD obama have done? You're pissed he didn't act emotional. Should he have cursed our biggest world ally for breaking their morals for oil? If you say yes, ya know nothing of diplomacy, cause you just can't do it.
of course obama didn't like that shit, and he probably called the brits every name int he book privately. but what would YOU have done in obama's shoes?
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I think we probably got a 'heads up' on it.
What SHOULD obama have done? You're pissed he didn't act emotional. Should he have cursed our biggest world ally for breaking their morals for oil? If you say yes, ya know nothing of diplomacy, cause you just can't do it.
of course obama didn't like that shit, and he probably called the brits every name int he book privately. but what would YOU have done in obama's shoes?
Maybe other than use the word "mistake' Obama could have used the following:
1. Gross injustice
2. Outrage
3. Disgrace
4. Reprehensible
Is that too much to ask 240 aft ehr killer of dozens of ameriucans is set free for oil?
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Maybe other than use the word "mistake' Obama could have used the following:
1. Gross injustice
2. Outrage
3. Disgrace
4. Reprehensible
Is that too much to ask 240 aft ehr killer of dozens of ameriucans is set free for oil?
Of course it's bullshit.
But can you imagine the backlash on many levels if he called it an "outrageous, disgraceful, reprehensible and gross injustice"?
That wouldn't be presidential. His words carry historical power. they're our biggest ally and a country we'll REALLY need for euro backing shoudl the dollar flop.
For most ppl, it was an event in history and it sucks the brits did this, but the USA was unable to halt anything here. For obama to create numerous unknown problems by publicly rebuking our biggest ally for the world would be unpresidential.
The Brits make lots of mistakes. Can you list the last time a US pres publicly rebuked them with the words you chose? I didn't think so.
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Obama giving back the Churchill bust they gave us as a gift after 9/11 as a sign of strength, brotherhood, and empathy was sort of nasty in IMHO.
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That's sort of a squirrelly response. Did he specifically say that he had no discussions with the Obama Administration before the decision was made? You said "yes," but the rest of your response doesn't really support an unqualified "yes."
f you squirrelly my ass
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u all just keep making whatever you want to believe up ::) fuck it.
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f you squirrelly my ass
lol. :)
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u all just keep making whatever you want to believe up ::) fuck it.
Ah yes. The part where you pick up the bat and ball. :)
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Ah yes. The part where you pick up the bat and ball. :)
There is definately more to this Hugo than you are willing to admit. This oil deal smacks of corruption and the timing is more than suspect.
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If I was Scottish and some big talking American told me how to run my country I think I would probably tell him to fuck off.
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If I was Scottish and some big talking American told me how to run my country I think I would probably tell him to fuck off.
And if you were scottish and the americans held a terrorist who murdered dozens of your countrymen who they released over an oil deal you would be utterly pissed off.
So whats your point chief?
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love the ct's from those who spent 8 years under bush mocking them. keep up the great work ::)
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There is definately more to this Hugo than you are willing to admit. This oil deal smacks of corruption and the timing is more than suspect.
who was president when those deals were attempted? hint, it wasn't obama... now what? 2 years ago... Mackaskill from Scotland said the Obama admin sought and were under the assumption he would not be released. ;)
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who was president when those deals were attempted? hint, it wasn't obama... now what? 2 years ago... Mackaskill from Scotland said the Obama admin sought and were under the assumption he would not be released. ;)
Probably GWB. As I showed you Hugo, I was thrown off of FR in 2005 for my complaints over GWB.
As far as Obama goes, his reaction that you posted was not what I expect from an American President genuinenly upset over something like this.
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