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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Hugo Chavez on September 04, 2009, 04:53:47 PM
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don't do it unless you have nothing else to do and want a challenge with little reward.
You may remember I was going to do the gardening thing this year. I'll report my disaster. Every bug and ooky alienesk thing known and unknown enjoyed my efforts. It was a daily routine of going out to the garden and yelling, "OMG, WTF is THAT" To top it off, swarms of grasshoppers pretty much decimated the remains. Then there was the fact that everything got started late because a hailstorm decided to come in and set it all back to start. weeks of work vanished in 5 minutes at mother nature's whim. Not worth it. I calculate based on time and money spent and reward received, I probably paid about 15 bucks per edible item left. If there is a major disaster and you have no food, eat worms. :D I would before going through that shit again.
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did you brew your own beer yet?
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this will become the new fad as long as people can pay their energy bill and police/dea don't come busting down your door for growing tomatoes lol
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did you brew your own beer yet?
I just harvested the first year of hops a few days ago. Most of them also got eaten by grasshoppers. nearly all of them had a large portion of the hop eaten. others were not worth harvesting because of some unknown little clear wormy things covering them by the thousands. Others were tossed because tiny spiders thought they were a great place to lay eggs, so they were webbed with egg sacs. >:(
Ok, to go on, when I started the hops portion of the garden, I did my research, as I normally do with everything, I went overboard. I read everything written about hops and the soil and tending that was written all the way back to the 1800's. I'm obsessive compulsive that way in trying to get shit done right. I like to do it right the first time. So I got the soils and mounds done right, in the right location with the right soil, with the right fertilizer makeup, the works and I'll tell you, these hops smell like shit. I would rather piss in my beer than put the hops I harvested in my beer.
total failure, I suck or it was the perfect storm this year or something. The one thing I do know is that I would have spent way less to just order all the shit I wanted or buy it locally.
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So I got the soils and mounds done right, in the right location with the right soil, with the right fertilizer makeup, the works and I'll tell you, these hops smell like shit. I would rather piss in my beer than put the hops I harvested in my beer.
hahahahah!
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Next time use Pyrethrum. :)
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this will become the new fad as long as people can pay their energy bill and police and dea don't come busting down your door for growing tomatoes lol
I actually did that this year too. and let me tell you, I call bullshit. unless your electric bill is way way cheap which is not the case with most people, you're going to have some seriously pricey veggies. I ended up growing my peppers inside because I didn't have time or space to put them outside. So I kept the setup I had in the spring to sprout seedlings to grow the plants. It takes at least 6 forty watt bulbs for a 4 X 3 foot space which won't be enough to grow very much. Those need to be running for 18 hours per day. Add up 240 watts at 18 hours a day for 3+ months and divide it over the 2 dozen peppers or whatever you grow, plus add in the time spent doing it and materials/fert etc and those are some really pricey veggies. I totally regret doing this. It was a fun learning experience but by the time I was done, or I'm close to done I mean, I was really disgusted at the price this cost for the reward.
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hahahahah!
I'm a very sad disgusting excuse of a man :D I failed and I hate that :(
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Next time use Pyrethrum. :)
actually I broke down at one point and went for the pesticides at home depot. I found an organic friendly pesiticide that was said to absoulutely kill grasshoppers and a host of other critters and be no harm whatsoever to you, so I paid extra for the shit. I bought twice the amount I would need just incase I would have to do a second dose later. This was something Ortho put out if I remember right. I went out, sprayed everything and was pretty pleased because I saw first hand that I had actually managed on soaking most of the grasshoppers with it. So I figured, bang, you're dead. The next day, I went out, and boom, not a single dead grasshopper or bug. not one and I looked around, they were all happy as fuck and eating away. So I loaded up the second bottle. Same thing, next day not jack fucking shit. all alive and happy. fuckers...
What it did manage on doing within a few days was to kill off many of the leaves sprayed, especially on the hops. I lucked out because I only sprayed the lower portion which doesn't matter because no hops grow below 3-4 feet. But that didn't matter because the hops are nasty anyway and I doubt I'll use them.
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this is a great video but outside of the scope of the one man home operation.
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I had about 30 watermelon and 20 stalks of corn. All got eaten by raccoons, possums, rabbits, squirrels.
Still harvested Bell peppers and tomatoes. I think next year I am going to build a walk in cage with chicken wire.
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I had about 30 watermelon and 20 stalks of corn. All got eaten by raccoons, possums, rabbits, squirrels.
Still harvested Bell peppers and tomatoes. I think next year I am going to build a walk in cage with chicken wire.
not a bad idea. People who have been doing this for a while make it sound like it is a total reward to do it. maybe it just takes a few years to figure out all the issues with it.
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One word Hugo... well, one hyphenated word:
...poly-tunnel.
The Luke
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not a bad idea. People who have been doing this for a while make it sound like it is a total reward to do it. maybe it just takes a few years to figure out all the issues with it.
My aunt had the same issue so that is what she did with her tomatoes. By the way if you have bug issues the best thing I have found is to get some tobacco like Redman or similar and soak it in water then strain that water into a spray bottle to use on the plants. My grandma told me about it and it works.
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One word Hugo... well, one hyphenated word:
...poly-tunnel.
The Luke
I just wanted a garden lol... a home garden...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Polytunnel_Balhungie.jpg
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My aunt had the same issue so that is what she did with her tomatoes. By the way if you have bug issues the best thing I have found is to get some tobacco like Redman or similar and soak it in water then strain that water into a spray bottle to use on the plants. My grandma told me about it and it works.
that's one of the things I read about searching for organic pesticides. In the end I got lazy and just bought the organic pesticide that didn't work at home depot. I'll try this if I do it again. I'm still not sure I'll be able to equate any of this to a savings. I think the time/materials put in on all of this makes the product way more expensive. I thought it was a pretty time consuming venture. worth it if the product provides a greater reward, better taste or whatever but... I guess I'm on the fence with this, disgruntled at the results vs. expectations.
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Did the product you tried have Pyrethrum?
This product will work no if's and's or but's about it. Trust me. You have to use it a couple of times, I avoid use during the last stages of fruiting/flowering becasue i don't wanna take any chances. I have never been dissappointed using this. I'd be shocked if it didn't perform.
(http://www.kootenaygrowers.com/images/Fung-Insec-Det/end-all%20spray%20copy.jpg)
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If you wanna play on the wild side you can try Diazinon AG500. I'd really watch it with this shit though.
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I used ecosense brand insecticidal soap by Ortho. It doesn't work worth a shit, don't buy that crap. and I used exactly as the directions indicated, twice... this will not kill grasshoppers for anything. I am 100% sure I could have dipped a grasshopper in it, put him in a jar and he would have been alive the next day.
http://www.scotts.com/smg/products/ortho-ecosense/PDF/ortho-ecosense_insecticidal-soap.pdf
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I used ecosense brand insecticidal soap by Ortho. It doesn't work worth a shit, don't buy that crap. and I used exactly as the directions indicated, twice... this will not kill grasshoppers for anything. I am 100% sure I could have dipped a grasshopper in it, put him in a jar and he would have been alive the next day.
http://www.scotts.com/smg/products/ortho-ecosense/PDF/ortho-ecosense_insecticidal-soap.pdf
I hope you take that shit back to Home Depot and demand a refund. I hate it when they sell worthless crap to people.
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I used ecosense brand insecticidal soap by Ortho. It doesn't work worth a shit, don't buy that crap. and I used exactly as the directions indicated, twice... this will not kill grasshoppers for anything. I am 100% sure I could have dipped a grasshopper in it, put him in a jar and he would have been alive the next day.
http://www.scotts.com/smg/products/ortho-ecosense/PDF/ortho-ecosense_insecticidal-soap.pdf
other ingerdients= 99% but it deosnt say what. or did I miss it?
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Organic gardening....
hehehehehe... :D
Oh you guys.... :)
Hey Hugo, did you know Monsanto makes vegetables that are inherently pest resistant? You don't even have to worry about going to the Home depo...
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screw monsanto
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Had Hugo used Monsanto plants, he might still have a pest free garden. :)
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Pesticides used properly are safe and effective...
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Organic gardening....
hehehehehe... :D
Oh you guys.... :)
Hey Hugo, did you know Monsanto makes vegetables that are inherently pest resistant? You don't even have to worry about going to the Home depo...
don't think for a second that I didn't factor in your presence and response to what I would be posting. I did. I figured it would be worth the comments despite giving you a, "I told you so" moment.
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Dude organic gardening is cool. The way I do mine is effectively organic... but yea, I always have issues with the bugs too, especially corn around here.
There are ways to battle the bugs... like using vinegar to repel worms, coffee grounds, etc.
Where you're at there probably isn't all that much else to eat, so a pesticide-free garden is a little slice of heaven for creatures.