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Discuss.
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try it
I like alot of their stuff
I don't think that one should use them primarily for there workouts- rather they should use crossfit workouts as a supplement to there normal workouts
i'm particularly found of these two workouts
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has vince goodrum got something to do with this?
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has vince goodrum got something to do with this?
I'm sure one can purchase a CrossFit franchise from his extensive bottom-shelf inventory.
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one HUGE criticism about crossfit is that their is no beginning or intermediate- there is only advanced
a total fitness novice couldn't make it through one of those workouts
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I'm sure one can purchase a CrossFit franchise from his extensive bottom-shelf inventory.
YES ;D
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one HUGE criticism about crossfit is that their is no beginning or intermediate- there is only advanced
a total fitness novice couldn't make it through one of those workouts
this shi.t is all the rage here with EVERY fckn rich/wealthy person signin up for this............only options out here if you dont wanna be around alot of redneck stupid kids in the gym is planet fitness and crossfit which are right by each other
but every hot 35+yr old woman I meet says they and their friends all do 'crossfit'
just a quicker way out of really working out -- resistance training will always be supreme due to axial loading
no axial loading = no core development(completely) and NO BALLS
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this shi.t is all the rage here with EVERY fckn rich/wealthy person signin up for this............only options out here if you dont wanna be around alot of redneck stupid kids in the gym is planet fitness and crossfit which are right by each other
but every hot 35+yr old woman I meet says they and their friends all do 'crossfit'
just a quicker way out of really working out -- resistance training will always be supreme due to axial loading
no axial loading = no core development(completely) and NO BALLS
Are you intimidated by these "redneck kids?"
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just a quicker way out of really working out -- resistance training will always be supreme due to axial loading
exactly
again, i think crossfit is good AS A SUPPLEMENT to a already balanced resistance regimine (sp)
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yes just do some 20 rep squats until failure taht will do it
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Are you intimidated by these "redneck kids?"
sometimes when I go and buy pine from this kid in a trailor park I get real antsy, like I walking thru prison and they have to challenge the biggest fck to prove something
redneck kids will try to test anyone - you must watch yourself aroudn redneck kids
totally unpredictable
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sometimes when I go and buy pine from this kid in a trailor park I get real antsy, like I walking thru prison and they have to challenge the biggest fck to prove something
redneck kids will try to test anyone - you must watch yourself aroudn redneck kids
totally unpredictable
true, true they dont give a fuck how big u are
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true, true they dont give a fuck how big u are
his ninjeta - classic
fckn judi chop someone ass
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I was just at the Swedish Crossfit Championships yesterday. It was real cool; in fact I think I'd like to compete next year. I can say with a good deal of confidence that Crossfit will be the next big thing in the fitness world. It's unfortunate that it has already started to become something less than ideal though-which is usually the case, i guess, when things get big. Now with Kipping pullups, butterfly/wave pullups, competitions strictly for time instead of numbers/lifts...etc, the overall effect of the training has decreased...I guess that's the price you pay for success on the wide scale-it has to be more regular person friendly.
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I was just at the Swedish Crossfit Championships yesterday. It was real cool; in fact I think I'd like to compete next year. I can say with a good deal of confidence that Crossfit will be the next big thing in the fitness world. It's unfortunate that it has already started to become something less than ideal though-which is usually the case, i guess, when things get big. Now with Kipping pullups, butterfly/wave pullups, competitions strictly for time instead of numbers/lifts...etc, the overall effect of the training has decreased...I guess that's the price you pay for success on the wide scale-it has to be more regular person friendly.
under 1000post fail............get me a pic of some guy that can put a shirt on and get the 'damn brah must workout alot' thing in public, that does crossfit ---- no one
will be a fad like p90x but people will get burnt out REAL quick with crossfit after a few yrs, if it makes it that far, success of program with the masses will steeply decline when they realize that workout is bullsh.it after pounding 3 grey goose and cranberry at the meeting lastnight and then the blow they had at lunch wears off and all they wanna do is go get smashed get away from spouse NOT go have some tool yell at them and jump rope or do bullsh.it squat-trust/bunny hop workout
a personal trainer for the upper class is a hot educated male/female that looks like they know their shit and someone they can bullsh.it/flirt with away from husband/wifey.........if thats the guy teachin crossfit he wins
gayer than tae bo and any movie with billy banks in it
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That was an excellent tirade, you who has been here half the time I have but has twice the posts. Crossfit is about 120x more sound than tae bo and every other fad to date. It has its flaws and they'll be publicized I'm sure, but it's dramatically better than everything else out there for the average Joe.
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That was an excellent tirade, you who has been here half the time I have but has twice the posts. Crossfit is about 120x more sound than tae bo and every other fad to date. It has its flaws and they'll be publicized I'm sure, but it's dramatically better than everything else out there for the average Joe.
post a pic and I'll show you whats up brah..........keep doing squat thrusts and push ups and we'll compare ;)
other than that, LOOK at how long I have been here next time you try to get 'fresh' internet tough guy
cross fit is for pussies and dollars to doughnuts I'll crush you on legs along so post up pics and I'll shut up if you square but you sound like a skinny fagg who does pussy 20min workouts and has 'abs' but like I said you put on a shirt and look like your in high school and play tennis
by the way I WAS REFERRING TO YOU POST COUNT WHO GIVE A SHI>T HOW LONG YOU HAVE BEEN HERE - just means your a troll
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post a pic and I'll show you whats up brah..........keep doing squat thrusts and push ups and we'll compare ;)
other than that, LOOK at how long I have been here next time you try to get 'fresh' internet tough guy
cross fit is for pussies and dollars to doughnuts I'll crush you on legs along so post up pics and I'll shut up if you square but you sound like a skinny fagg who does pussy 20min workouts and has 'abs' but like I said you put on a shirt and look like your in high school and play tennis
by the way I WAS REFERRING TO YOU POST COUNT WHO GIVE A SHI>T HOW LONG YOU HAVE BEEN HERE - just means your a troll
haha Spike. Maybe Swedish Viking prefers a bosu/stretch tube/weighted vest combo regimen for his "core" training.... ;D
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post a pic and I'll show you whats up brah..........keep doing squat thrusts and push ups and we'll compare ;)
other than that, LOOK at how long I have been here next time you try to get 'fresh' internet tough guy
cross fit is for pussies and dollars to doughnuts I'll crush you on legs along so post up pics and I'll shut up if you square but you sound like a skinny fagg who does pussy 20min workouts and has 'abs' but like I said you put on a shirt and look like your in high school and play tennis
by the way I WAS REFERRING TO YOU POST COUNT WHO GIVE A SHI>T HOW LONG YOU HAVE BEEN HERE - just means your a troll
Once again, excellent meltdown, I'm glad to hear you would 'crush me on legs.' That doesn't sound at all like an 'internet tough guy' getting upset that he doesn't 'have abs.' Here's me in a shirt...don't think I look like a tennis player...though you likely wouldn't be able to make it through a tennis match. And here's me without, still not a tennis player and legs are doing just fine with high intensity, fast paced training(though not crossfit-my post was directed towards it for the average Joe). I'm pretty satisfied with how far I've come thus far...I'm relatively sure most others would be as well.
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Once again, excellent meltdown, I'm glad to hear you would 'crush me on legs.' That doesn't sound at all like an 'internet tough guy' getting upset that he doesn't 'have abs.' Here's me in a shirt...don't think I look like a tennis player...though you likely wouldn't be able to make it through a tennis match. And here's me without, still not a tennis player and legs are doing just fine with high intensity, fast paced training(though not crossfit-my post was directed towards it for the average Joe). I'm pretty satisfied with how far I've come thus far...I'm relatively sure most others would be as well.
Is that a polar bear skin on your wall of your house? did you kill that sombtch?
but NICE TRY - 'internet toughguy' no....but someone who calls bullshit and can back it up YES
results I will give you, you look good, but crossfit is a fad
oh and by the way your legs arent gettn full development, try full range squats
NICE TRY tho brah
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Crossfit is for twinks
Gives a bad name to exersise in general.
Viking it looks like you have a dead animal hanging in your wall.
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Crossfit is for twinks
Gives a bad name to exersise in general.
Viking it looks like you have a dead animal hanging in your wall.
I do have a dead animal hanging on my wall. Reindeer.
I tend to disagree with you. Coming from a bodybuilding and powerlifing background, and now having moved over to a more athleticism based training program, I tend to think the former is what is giving a bad name to exercise in general. I think most people would agree to this. Fads are made popular by big personalities, usually without much of a background in exercise science; crossfit is gaining momentum much slower in relation to the average fad and it was created by Mark Rippetoe, a well respected strength coach and former competitor. It is also far more able to deliver results that not only do most people find more appealing but also would generally be accepted as a higher level of fitness than the average fad and definitely more so than your typical bbing or powerlifting workout gives. All summed up, I would much rather have this physique and a high level of respiratory and cardiovascular fitness, than a typical bbers-in addition to the fact, that I have no strong desire to use performance enhancing drugs just to keep up with the Jones'. Plus, I prefer keeping my body hair :)
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My friend wanted me to join his crossfit class a few monthes back. I went to check it out a few days later. It was some guy running it out of his parents backyard. ::) As far as equipment, he had one bar with a pair of 25s, a broomstick, and a rowing machine. Plus a fuckup dog that i was told not to touch. But they wouldn't tell me why ??? He had sores and tumors or something. anyway, I got the fuck out of there. I'm was not going to pay some guy 25 bucks a month to tell me to run around the block and do squats and push ups. I could do that shit at my gym if i wanted to.
My friend was piss that i didn't join. He wanted me to cancel my gym membership and just do crossfit ::). I was like, "Dude, i like to lift weights".Nothing relieves stress like lifting. I later found out that crossfit dude was his girlfriend's cousin or something. Bros before hoes right? :-\
Anyway dude was making a killing, he ran around 6 classes of about 15 people. Each class was 45 mins long, 2 days a week. He was pulling an extra 2250 a month for 90 mins. 4 days a week. Hustler there. ;D
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I do have a dead animal hanging on my wall. Reindeer.
I tend to disagree with you. Coming from a bodybuilding and powerlifing background, and now having moved over to a more athleticism based training program, I tend to think the former is what is giving a bad name to exercise in general. I think most people would agree to this. Fads are made popular by big personalities, usually without much of a background in exercise science; crossfit is gaining momentum much slower in relation to the average fad and it was created by Mark Rippetoe, a well respected strength coach and former competitor. It is also far more able to deliver results that not only do most people find more appealing but also would generally be accepted as a higher level of fitness than the average fad and definitely more so than your typical bbing or powerlifting workout gives. All summed up, I would much rather have this physique and a high level of respiratory and cardiovascular fitness, than a typical bbers-in addition to the fact, that I have no strong desire to use performance enhancing drugs just to keep up with the Jones'. Plus, I prefer keeping my body hair :)
= I want a hairy chest/balls, I dont like to workout too long or too hard, and I hate training legs
let alone dodging the fact I just proved my point
go find a crossfit board if you can brah cause if your gonna knock bb'ing cause your past that 'level' then whatev.........and who said shit about PED;s??
I said it comes down to when you put a shirt on (not a smedium from baby gap like in your pic) a REAL shit like a XXXL from champs they sell in the back - you prob dont cause it would swallow you ass - that people notice you train
instead of walking around like bearded, hairy tennis player - I mean christ what do you weigh, 150lbs?? you look good but your just skinny, u look like the 20yr I work with that just eats shit all day adn does blow all night - full out abs but shit else----nothing on you stands out? or do you jus tnot care about chest/arms/legs - muscles in general ---- your more the 'total' fitness and 'total' body workout guy ---- you will never be 225lb with abs
I bet when you but on clothes (the right size ones) you are right back to twink status = why u knock bb;ing and try to pawn crossfit off like its some big new thing
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two things
1- swedish viking- leave the andre arlovski look to andre arlovski
2- spike- congrats on being a all around stud
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two things
1- swedish viking- leave the andre arlovski look to andre arlovski
2- spike- congrats on being a all around stud
75quid I just put in your gstring and bought you a case of whipping cream :D ;D
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under 1000post fail............get me a pic of some guy that can put a shirt on and get the 'damn brah must workout alot' thing in public, that does crossfit ---- no one
will be a fad like p90x but people will get burnt out REAL quick with crossfit after a few yrs, if it makes it that far, success of program with the masses will steeply decline when they realize that workout is bullsh.it after pounding 3 grey goose and cranberry at the meeting lastnight and then the blow they had at lunch wears off and all they wanna do is go get smashed get away from spouse NOT go have some tool yell at them and jump rope or do bullsh.it squat-trust/bunny hop workout
a personal trainer for the upper class is a hot educated male/female that looks like they know their shit and someone they can bullsh.it/flirt with away from husband/wifey.........if thats the guy teachin crossfit he wins
gayer than tae bo and any movie with billy banks in it
P90x is still out there. As you rightly pointed out most of these programs last for a year or two until the next fad takes its place.
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Yeah in a couple years we will see some dork wearing an old Crossfit T shirt and laugh saying "remember that crap?"
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These fads are cyclic. A few years ago, fitballs were all the rage with people doing every conceivable exercise on them, kettlebells came back in fashion, now crossFit is the "in thing", those vibrating stands from like the 70's are back, who knows whats next.....
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= I want a hairy chest/balls, I dont like to workout too long or too hard, and I hate training legs
let alone dodging the fact I just proved my point
go find a crossfit board if you can brah cause if your gonna knock bb'ing cause your past that 'level' then whatev.........and who said shit about PED;s??
I said it comes down to when you put a shirt on (not a smedium from baby gap like in your pic) a REAL shit like a XXXL from champs they sell in the back - you prob dont cause it would swallow you ass - that people notice you train
instead of walking around like bearded, hairy tennis player - I mean christ what do you weigh, 150lbs?? you look good but your just skinny, u look like the 20yr I work with that just eats shit all day adn does blow all night - full out abs but shit else----nothing on you stands out? or do you jus tnot care about chest/arms/legs - muscles in general ---- your more the 'total' fitness and 'total' body workout guy ---- you will never be 225lb with abs
I bet when you but on clothes (the right size ones) you are right back to twink status = why u knock bb;ing and try to pawn crossfit off like its some big new thing
Nothing is going to stand out, everything is going to be in good proportion, like it is now. I'm 190lbs(I know I don't look 150), little body fat, and cycle between splits and full body's, high volume and low. I'd like to push it back up to 200 but only if it's lean. 225 is out of my range, and my desire.
These days I much prefer faster paced workouts, which most people would agree are much more difficult than the typical slow, wait 45 sec-2min between sets, bbers workout. I don't slack in the slightest-I consider my old bbing and powerlifting workouts to be much easier than today's. In fact, almost every successful bber I have ever seen train, of which there are very many, train very midly in comparison to every successful athlete I have seen train-with wrestlers being the hardest training of them all. The vast majority of the pros, in fact, train almost embarrasingly mildly. 1 set taken to failure and beyond(which they don't even do) and then a rest is not hard training, 12-15 sets of selected compounds and isolated movements taken to negative failure, all done with no rest in between and then sitting yourself down on a rower and rowing 3000 metters is a different story-that's a low volume session, but I do the more traditional high as well.
Nonetheless, I think if you'll read my original comment again, you'll find that I'm not tying to 'pawn' cross fit onto people; in fact, I said that it would be the next big thing-which you all seem to agree upon-and that it is infinitely better than any other fad to date...which I don't see how you can disagree with-it's based on squats, deadlifts, both Olympic lifts, both sprinting and lung distance running, chins and pullups, and pushups. If that's not better, in your mind, than Tae bo and belly dancing and everything else out there, then you have a totaly different definition of fitness than I do.
I am beyond new to Crossfit and haven't really done it more than once, but the principles appeal to me and the average Joe much more than getting as big as possible and then getting as cut as possible and then getting up on stage to show it off-primarily to men...this is something most getbiggers are aware of and have spoken and laughed about on numerous occassions as well. That had it's day, it may come back, but obviously it's not in right now. Most people, myself included, do not want to have to go to 'back of Champs' to find the XXXL shirts, shave their body's, and been seen covered in oil and tanning lotion, as I'm sure you've noticed that most other people(the ones that matter most-women) do not find that look attractive, but rather prefer something a bit more balanced and athletic, although far above the average-which I am.
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Nothing is going to stand out, everything is going to be in good proportion, like it is now. I'm 190lbs(I know I don't look 150), little body fat, and cycle between splits and full body's, high volume and low. I'd like to push it back up to 200 but only if it's lean. 225 is out of my range, and my desire.
These days I much prefer faster paced workouts, which most people would agree are much more difficult than the typical slow, wait 45 sec-2min between sets, bbers workout. I don't slack in the slightest-I consider my old bbing and powerlifting workouts to be much easier than today's. In fact, almost every successful bber I have ever seen train, of which there are very many, train very midly in comparison to every successful athlete I have seen train-with wrestlers being the hardest training of them all. The vast majority of the pros, in fact, train almost embarrasingly mildly. 1 set taken to failure and beyond(which they don't even do) and then a rest is not hard training, 12-15 sets of selected compounds and isolated movements taken to negative failure, all done with no rest in between and then sitting yourself down on a rower and rowing 3000 metters is a different story-that's a low volume session, but I do the more traditional high as well.
Nonetheless, I think if you'll read my original comment again, you'll find that I'm not tying to 'pawn' cross fit onto people; in fact, I said that it would be the next big thing-which you all seem to agree upon-and that it is infinitely better than any other fad to date...which I don't see how you can disagree with-it's based on squats, deadlifts, both Olympic lifts, both sprinting and lung distance running, chins and pullups, and pushups. If that's not better, in your mind, than Tae bo and belly dancing and everything else out there, then you have a totaly different definition of fitness than I do.
I am beyond new to Crossfit and haven't really done it more than once, but the principles appeal to me and the average Joe much more than getting as big as possible and then getting as cut as possible and then getting up on stage to show it off-primarily to men...this is something most getbiggers are aware of and have spoken and laughed about on numerous occassions as well. That had it's day, it may come back, but obviously it's not in right now. Most people, myself included, do not want to have to go to 'back of Champs' to find the XXXL shirts, shave their body's, and been seen covered in oil and tanning lotion, as I'm sure you've noticed that most other people(the ones that matter most-women) do not find that look attractive, but rather prefer something a bit more balanced and athletic, although far above the average-which I am.
No one on her agrees with you - read the posts - they claim this is a fad and will die I out just like I said b4 - there is not begginer stage and people will get burnt out on this shit in 16months - this shit will disaper
as far as 'you definition of fitness' I have a 4yr degree in exercise physiology and I am currently C.S.C.S. certified
I dont go "back to champs" - I just buy very large shirts their that actually cover my huge arms - I dont rock my shirts left over from 8th grade and take pics of myself with my arms crossed tryin to make them feel better
and when in the hell have hundreds of people gather to watch a 'session' of crossfit, what magazines does 'crossfit' sell, the answer is NOT SHIT cause bodybuilding does that -- its the #1 reason people workout - to LOOK better and they want someone on that level to give them advice or get them to their goals - on down the list you have health/wellness but I am talking about getting the most of a workout consistently over time - NOT some 20min bullshit for 4weeks or 90days that will 'transform' you - complete B.S. - Axial loading and muscle stimulation are key to bodybuilding and weight lifting while crossfit incorporates that shit it throws too much in the basket and cause catabolism in any begginer athlete let alone if a obese person were to do this shit they wouldnt last 2weeks
olympic lifts my ass -- maybe in the video but Olympic lifts are designed to directly incorporate your central nervous system and musclorskeltal system into POWER movements - now you can use that to get your heartrate up but to incorporate these advanced movements into some 40something yr old lady's workout would be rediculous and an insurance suit waitin to happen -
simply but you believe crossfit is good but it works for YOU - I am a personal trainer but I train mostly athletes - crossfit in p90x out of the box
it something that Jimmy and the boys can 'hit up right quick' b4 they go to happy hour after a long day of marketing bullshit and tell everyone about the 'crazy' workout they had today
crossfit = someone with shit certification teaching you moves, balance shit based heartrate and repition OR bullshit
who gives a shit if you 'seen pros who train lazy' --- YOU work too hard and dont eat shit so you are 165lb(i'll give you that much but you'll never be 200lb ripped brah) cause all you do is run laps and so squat thrusts
catabolism is something people who make money from this sport have to take into account buddy and your program is the pinnacle of that shit.......say goodbye to the fad soon but you dont have to go to champs to buy shirts
JUST BUY A SHIRT THAT FITS ;)
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as far as 'you definition of fitness' I have a 4yr degree in exercise physiology and I am currently C.S.C.S. certified
see, it is gonna sound like i'm kissing your ass but seriously that is a hard cert to get.
I'm ACSM certified and even i know that CSCS guys outrank us
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Is that a polar bear skin on your wall of your house? did you kill that sombtch?
but NICE TRY - 'internet toughguy' no....but someone who calls bullshit and can back it up YES
results I will give you, you look good, but crossfit is a fad
oh and by the way your legs arent gettn full development, try full range squats
NICE TRY tho brah
Nice shots Spike
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see, it is gonna sound like i'm kissing your ass but seriously that is a hard cert to get.
I'm ACSM certified and even i know that CSCS guys outrank us
my prof from school insisted that get that after I did a research paper on gh and he enjoyed it so much
but I appreciate johnny - another 75quid to the young stud with the 12pak abs and nice hair
Nice shots Spike
cant let anyone down - going to go hit up lake hickory today with all the labor day rednecks - '"hey bruthur whur ya'll workout at?....gawdamn'd ur big'
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my prof from school insisted that get that after I did a research paper on gh and he enjoyed it so much
but I appreciate johnny - another 75quid to the young stud with the 12pak abs and nice hair
cant let anyone down - going to go hit up lake hickory today with all the labor day rednecks - '"hey bruthur whur ya'll workout at?....gawdamn'd ur big'
Famous redneck statements from Lake Hickory = "are you a wrassler" "you wanna arm wrassle" "how much do u Binch" 8)
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I’d like to refer back to my original post here, as I am assuming you will likely not do it, to show you that I feel, and have always felt, relatively similar to the way you do. I’m well aware Crossfit is a fad and I said as much by stating it will be the next big thing in the fitness world-everyone has all but agreed wholly to this. Where we differ is the fact that my stance is that it is a higher quality one than most others that have already been mentioned, Tae bo…etc. The fact that its focus is not on first improving the structural efficiency of each individual or taking the time to slowly, progressively, and conscientiously improve the cardiovascular fitness of each person, as is par for the course in the personal training world, is one of the drawbacks I was referring to in my second post but that fact doesn’t take away from its inherent benefit-that being getting the average Joe off his butt.
The reason sound, long way around, strength training is only minimally popular to put it best is because it doesn’t appeal to the masses, which crossfit and every other fad has managed to do on a much greater scale. It has managed not only to bring in new trainees but take a large portion of the vast majority of the current trainess, of which primarily waste their time, and get them moving towards a level of health and aesthetics that is likely greater than the one they currently experience. Some people will get hurt, specifically the people you have described, but that is the case for the average trainee anyway who rushes into strength training as well; its benefits still outweigh its negatives. The idea that there isn't a 'beginner phase' isn't really a sound one...these workouts much like every other workout are tailored to the people doing then.
Nonetheless, the people you described would, of course, be better off in the long run with personal guidance. Unfortunately, the reality of the situation is such that most people need excitement before they need slow, steady, logic-and if they can get excitement in a manner that is one step up from the last exciting thing that came out, which I pretty clearly think that crossfit is...then all the better-then we've seen an improvement. Improvements in structural and neuromusculary effeciency, the promises of axial loading, and rate of force production are not getting people in the door, but a program with more sense than Tae bo and ab vibrations belts...etc is. Some will be hurt, some will feel left out(though they don't have an excuse, they can just tailor it to themselves and their current level of fitness and avoid that problem altogether), but many more will be introduced to fitness in a way that is better than the last way the masses were introduced. This is positive, imo.
In regards to catabolism and my workout routine, you stated that I don’t like to workout hard. I informed you that that wasn’t the case by giving you an example of a hard workout, which you then deemed too hard. Although, I also stated that that was one type of workout that is then cycled through more traditional type workouts-I cycle for the same reason as your are stating, to avoid negative gains, and to keep getting stronger, improving my lifts, and maybe put on another 10lbs. I am well aware of the dangers of catabolism and I word to avoid them; I continue to improve and when I come back to the hard workouts I described earlier, my performance is always better. I do eat and I do weigh 190, and I’m relatively sure, that most people would be pretty satisfied, if not very satisfied with my physique over that of a competitive bodybuilder’s.
In regards to bodybuilding and the motivation of the public, crossfit in and of itself has not been around long enough to sell magazines and with the current array of exercise magazines on the shelves today, its more likely it will be publicized through one of those mediums. Having said that, the ideals of crossfit-athleticism, fit bodies, and good cardiovascular health far and away sell more publications and more tickets and sell out more seats than anything bodybuilding will ever come close to. Bodybuilding and bodybuilders do not sell magazines-essentially no one cares about or respects the sport of bodybuilding and very few people on the whole would care to listen to anyone 'at that level.' Fitness and athletic looking bodies sell magazines and those few buying hardcore mags are heavily heavily heavily outweighed by those buying fitness oriented mags purporting the crossfit ideal: a level far far removed from what bbing defines as desirable. Crossfit more than takes care of the desires of the average Joe, and thus appeals to them much more than bodybuilding; though it admittingly has some drawbacks that will, of course, have to be dealt with. Last, I think you’re mistaken about the popularity of Crossfit-competitions have more competitors than the average bbing show, and more people on the sidelines.
In conclusion, I’d like to reiterate my initial contention: Crossfit will be the next big thing in the fitness world. It may die out, but it will likely last longer than the other fads simply because of the fact that it is of higher quality than they are and it has a well known strength coach behind it rather than a hollywood personality-in addition to the fact that it has essentially been around forever...it just has some structure now and a name. It has clear drawbacks and they will be well publicized-the fact that it has become competitive is the biggest issue as this takes away from people’s willingness to improve in a sustainable manner. Having said that, the benefits, in my opinion, outweigh the negatives simply because of sheer volume. Last, people are not blind, they too will see an experience the downsides and respond accordingly-the important thing is that they got their foot in the door.
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Not going to bother reading the essays by spike and SV
But what is CrossFit training? just weightlifting mixed with cardiovascular training?
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It's the newest trend in strength training. You're pretty much right, classic lifts done in a cardiovascular type fashion.
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It's the newest trend in strength training. You're pretty much right, classic lifts done in a cardiovascular type fashion.
Cleaning the weight and doing the front squat is very taxing great on the cardiovascular and legs..
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wow, so they finally gave a name (crossfit) to what highschool football coaches have been doing forever :o
bench
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wow, so they finally gave a name (crossfit) to what highschool football coaches have been doing forever :o
bench
hahaha
My football coach would make us do that shit in the sticker filled grass. >:(
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My football coach would make us do that shit in the sticker filled grass. >:(
Hell yea nothing new here ;)
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My football coach would make us do that shit in the sticker filled grass. >:(
you dont have to tell me. i am from texas too bro, i also had to grow up around those fucking idiots ;D
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you dont have to tell me. i am from texas too bro, i also had to grow up around those fucking idiots ;D
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There is some damn good high school football in texas brutes down there
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There is some damn good high school football in texas brutes down there
yeah but it comes at a price.
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Crossfit is for people who don't understand training. Most of the instructors that have crossfit "certifications" have little experiance let alone having experiance teaching olympic type lifts that take time to get the mechanics correct. Not only that, there is no real protocol for any real dynamic warm ups. Crossfit has been sued numerous times for injuries related to exercise which is probably why they now have to SELF-INSURED.
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I do have a dead animal hanging on my wall. Reindeer.
I tend to disagree with you. Coming from a bodybuilding and powerlifing background, and now having moved over to a more athleticism based training program, I tend to think the former is what is giving a bad name to exercise in general. I think most people would agree to this. Fads are made popular by big personalities, usually without much of a background in exercise science; crossfit is gaining momentum much slower in relation to the average fad and it was created by Mark Rippetoe, a well respected strength coach and former competitor. It is also far more able to deliver results that not only do most people find more appealing but also would generally be accepted as a higher level of fitness than the average fad and definitely more so than your typical bbing or powerlifting workout gives. All summed up, I would much rather have this physique and a high level of respiratory and cardiovascular fitness, than a typical bbers-in addition to the fact, that I have no strong desire to use performance enhancing drugs just to keep up with the Jones'. Plus, I prefer keeping my body hair :)
meh to be honest you look fantastic
Spike may enjoy being as big as he is but he's also juiced to the gills
Crossfit itself might be a 'fad' or a gimmick but the training style is carried and tweaked through time and is great for fitness/flexibility and training for function
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meh to be honest you look fantastic
Spike may enjoy being as big as he is but he's also juiced to the gills
Crossfit itself might be a 'fad' or a gimmick but the training style is carried and tweaked through time and is great for fitness/flexibility and training for function
Thank you and like I said...of course it's gimmicky, but it's better than the other gimmicks for the average Joe and because it's malleable you can make it into something each individual can benefit from, imo.
Dyslexic, that is the funniest, best picture I have ever seen an I am saving it and putting on my desktop.
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Discuss.
It seems like a perfectly valid means of keeping your heart healthy and staying lean, but none of the guys in my cross-fit-orientated gym have seen any noticable muscle gains, so from a bodybuilding perpective I proclaim it rubbish!
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It seems like a perfectly valid means of keeping your heart healthy and staying lean, but none of the guys in my cross-fit-orientated gym have seen any noticable muscle gains, so from a bodybuilding perpective I proclaim it rubbish!
I'm a competitive bodybuilder with a C.S.C.S. cert and 4yr degree
olympic lifts are designed to incorporate your CNS and muscloskeletal system into firing correctly to produce more power - OK it gets your heartrate up BUT old ladies and people in their 40 DO NOT need to be doing these movements -- NO WAY of spotting them and form and hip flexion are the KEY to most OLYMPIC style lifts
my arguement lies there -- hence why they have SH>it certifications and NOT ONE big insurance carrier backs that shit
fad just like tae bo -- until you get hurt
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I'm a competitive bodybuilder with a C.S.C.S. cert and 4yr degree
olympic lifts are designed to incorporate your CNS and muscloskeletal system into firing correctly to produce more power - OK it gets your heartrate up BUT old ladies and people in their 40 DO NOT need to be doing these movements -- NO WAY of spotting them and form and hip flexion are the KEY to most OLYMPIC style lifts
my arguement lies there -- hence why they have SH>it certifications and NOT ONE big insurance carrier backs that shit
fad just like tae bo -- until you get hurt
Spike, seriously was there any reason to trash this guy for liking Crossfit training.... ::)
In any event, Crossfit to me is no different than P90X and it will pass very soon as another fad and then come back in about 10-20 years.
Every exercise routine, diet, etc always reappears after a certain period of time from HIT to Atkins to Kettlebells etc. Its just part of fitness marketing and sales.
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Spike, seriously was there any reason to trash this guy for liking Crossfit training.... ::)
In any event, Crossfit to me is no different than P90X and it will pass very soon as another fad and then come back in about 10-20 years.
Every exercise routine, diet, etc always reappears after a certain period of time from HIT to Atkins to Kettlebells etc. Its just part of fitness marketing and sales.
Vince I believe that is first time you have ever addressed me on this board.....come down to hickory one day and we'll do legs
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swedish= natural spike=on steroids
so the discussion between those two is pointless from the beginning. Swedish, nice NATURAL physique.
Spike: how many people do you bullshit on a daily basis about how they can get as big as you...without telling em about...you know STEROIDS ?
And how do you explain to em that you had to use steroids because you were too insecure being smaller not using em?
it's only Your own opinion to think that everyone has insecurities requiring em to get "bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger" ... Some people just enjoy getting healthier and healthier ... sometimes i doubt you re a certified trainer, cause you obviously lack some basic psychological skills, at least when you bragg on the internet...
To me most meatheads like you discourage newcommers in the gym, they dont motivate em. Basically you sound like the typical juiced certified trainer who sincerely despise newbies and laugh at em while training em while parading in the gym highfiving his fellow juiced gymrats friends .
You represent everything that is wrong with nowaday gym staffs. But hey, it wont prevent newbies from suscribing we all know that. It's the way it works.
Fortunately there are some humble and dedicated NATURAL personal trainers who are really compassionate about their customers and can use some psychology here and there instead of just bullshiting em. Must be a bore for em to work with people like you.
Who cares what your degrees or certificates are when we can hear you talk the way you do: you re obviously an asshole who seems to hate naturals with a passion for some reasons. Nobody aggressed you here in the first place, funny isnt it.
Maybe you shoud lower your dosages ?
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Vince I believe that is first time you have ever addressed me on this board.....come down to hickory one day and we'll do legs
If I ever have time, I'll let you know.
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If I ever have time, I'll let you know.
translation- don't hold your breath on it
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swedish= natural spike=on steroids
so the discussion between those two is pointless from the beginning. Swedish, nice NATURAL physique.
Spike: how many people do you bullshit on a daily basis about how they can get as big as you...without telling em about...you know STEROIDS ?
And how do you explain to em that you had to use steroids because you were too insecure being smaller not using em?
it's only Your own opinion to think that everyone has insecurities requiring em to get "bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger" ... Some people just enjoy getting healthier and healthier ... sometimes i doubt you re a certified trainer, cause you obviously lack some basic psychological skills, at least when you bragg on the internet...
To me most meatheads like you discourage newcommers in the gym, they dont motivate em. Basically you sound like the typical juiced certified trainer who sincerely despise newbies and laugh at em while training em while parading in the gym highfiving his fellow juiced gymrats friends .
You represent everything that is wrong with nowaday gym staffs. But hey, it wont prevent newbies from suscribing we all know that. It's the way it works.
Fortunately there are some humble and dedicated NATURAL personal trainers who are really compassionate about their customers and can use some psychology here and there instead of just bullshiting em. Must be a bore for em to work with people like you.
Who cares what your degrees or certificates are when we can hear you talk the way you do: you re obviously an asshole who seems to hate naturals with a passion for some reasons. Nobody aggressed you here in the first place, funny isnt it.
Maybe you shoud lower your dosages ?
Regardless of who is using what, Spike is right about Crossfit being a fad although not very nice about it.
While it may be great for people who want to get in shape, its counterproductive in building muscle mass. The only way to build muscle mass is by lifting moderate to very heavy weight.
When I train I stick to the basics...bench press, squat, deadlift, barbell curl, military press, dips, pull-ups, hyperextensions, skullcrushers and do them as heavy as possible. I may incorporate some cable exercises down the road but I always...ALWAYS hit the basics FIRST.
I understand where you're coming from Swedish but if you're wanting to get bigger, then you got to hit the iron hard and get some more calories in. I read your website and the nutrition section and you're not getting in any carbohydrates at all which is detrimental. Carbohydrates provide a ready energy source for the body but most importantly spares your protein intake so that it can be used to build muscle. Otherwise, your body is using the protein for an energy source which limits your muscle gain.
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Regardless of who is using what, Spike is right about Crossfit being a fad although not very nice about it.
While it may be great for people who want to get in shape, its counterproductive in building muscle mass. The only way to build muscle mass is by lifting moderate to very heavy weight.
When I train I stick to the basics...bench press, squat, deadlift, barbell curl, military press, dips, pull-ups, hyperextensions, skullcrushers and do them as heavy as possible. I may incorporate some cable exercises down the road but I always...ALWAYS hit the basics FIRST.
I understand where you're coming from Swedish but if you're wanting to get bigger, then you got to hit the iron hard and get some more calories in. I read your website and the nutrition section and you're not getting in any carbohydrates at all which is detrimental. Carbohydrates provide a ready energy source for the body but most importantly spares your protein intake so that it can be used to build muscle. Otherwise, your body is using the protein for an energy source which limits your muscle gain.
Thanks for the input man...I don't do real well on carbs, but I pretty consistently put on size nonetheless. Like I told spike and the other guys, if you'll refer back to my original posts, you'll see that I wholly admit it is a fad, and even say it will be 'the next big thing' in fitness-which I think we're all in agreement on. Most people don't really want to get big these days or at the very least, they have other priorities. That fact combined with the fact that every other fad has been literally AWFUL, whereas this one is a combination of basic exercises which you can tailor to your own level of fitness makes it better than the other fads out there, imo. Saying that certain groups of people are going to get hurt by it and that it is too much for so and so is excluding the former.
*modified: I really don't do great on the carbs that you are likely referring to. I'm fine with fruits, best with things that are native to where I'm from.
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Go back and read my first post!
Lawsuit alleges CrossFit workout damaging
By Bryan Mitchell - Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Aug 19, 2008 7:23:51 EDT
MANASSAS, Va. — A lawsuit filed by a former sailor has raised concerns about the dangers of a workout regimen that is rapidly growing in popularity across the military.
The lawsuit, filed by former Information Systems Technician 1st Class Makimba Mimms in Prince William County, Va., Circuit Court late last year, seeks $500,000, as well as punitive damages, in connection with the permanent disability Mimms allegedly suffered as a result of performing the CrossFit workout under the direction of a trainer at a Manassas gym.
CrossFit, an intense strength and conditioning regimen, is practiced by thousands worldwide at dozens of ad-hoc clubs and is especially popular with military and law enforcement communities.
Neither CrossFit nor its founder, Greg Glassman, is listed as defendants in the lawsuit, but the word “CrossFit” appears dozens of times throughout the legal documents connected to the suit. Glassman could not be reached for comment.
The lawsuit is part of an emerging body of evidence that CrossFit may be damaging to participants’ health, perhaps even causing death — a possibility acknowledged by its founder as early as 2005.
Following a June story on the popularity of CrossFit in Military Times newspapers, Capt. Jonathan Picker, commander of the Navy’s Center for Personal and Professional Development, posted a story that raised concerns about CrossFit in the July issue of the center’s internal magazine.
“Several [experts] in the sports medicine field (military and civilian) have addressed a concern that the program has the potential for causing an increased incidence of musculoskeletal injuries and even muscle breakdown (rhabdomyoloysis) and therefore is not supported by [Navy Center for Personal and Professional Development],” the story states. “Granted, anyone can develop a program that’s very intense, but there’s a safer way of doing this for our sailors.” Picker could not be reached for comment.
Navy officials said studies are underway to examine CrossFit and its potential effects on service members, but those involved with the studies declined to discuss the specifics.
A section of Picker’s story was posted on a CrossFit Web site and subsequently mocked by some of CrossFit’s more strident advocates.
“You know what’s another excellent way to get a musculoskeletal injury?” one poster asked in reply to Picker’s assessment. “Getting shot because you can’t run fast enough with 50 [pounds] on your back!”
However, Glassman posted a warning on the CrossFit site in October 2005 labeled “CrossFit induced Rhabdo,” telling participants about the potential problems associated with the unforgiving workout, while Eugene Allen — a Washington State law enforcement officer who runs a CrossFit blog — posted an even less ambiguous warning in May 2005 titled “Killer Workouts.”
“With CrossFit, we are dealing with what is known as exertional rhabdomyolysis,” he wrote. “It can disable, maim and even kill.”
That’s what Mimms contends happened to him in one intense exercise session Dec. 11, 2005, in which, he said, he suffered injuries he has yet to recover from.
In the initial seven-page complaint filed Nov. 21, Mimms’ attorney, Phillip Walsh, contends that Manassas World Gym, Ruthless Training Concepts and Ruthless trainer Javier Lopez failed to exercise diligence before instructing an unprepared Mimms in performing CrossFit.
“The defendants, in concert with one another, entreated, promoted, encouraged and coached Mr. Mimms to perform and endure the extreme exertion prescribed by the CrossFit regimen,” court records state.
The suit claims Mimms suffered from rhabdomyolysis — which occurs when tiny shreds of muscle fiber are absorbed by the bloodstream and ultimately poison the kidneys — as a result of performing a CrossFit workout under the direction of Lopez, who worked as Ruthless Training Concepts trainer at the now-defunct Manassas World Gym.
Mimms, who was in the Navy for 11 years, got out in May and was not separated for medical reasons, declined to discuss the case, pending a trial slated to begin Oct. 6 in Manassas.
Lopez could not be reached for comment. However, statements made by Lopez to court officials during a pretrial deposition indicate he was aware that “people who perform too intensely perhaps can undergo this rhabdomyolysis,” he said.
Ruthless Training Concepts, as well as attorneys representing Ruthless and Manassas World Gym, declined to comment on the suit.
Several physicians, including Walter Reed Army Medical Center neurophysiologist Lt. Col. Mark Landau, concluded that Mimms suffered severe injuries following his intense CrossFit workout, according to court records.
The injuries included rhabdomyolysis, lumbosacral spine strain and strain of the bilateral quadriceps, according to court documents. As a result of these injuries, Mimms was incapacitated, lost time from work and required surgery, court records show.
“[He] endured great mental and physical pain, mental anguish and inconvenience,” court records state. “[He] has incurred and will in the future incur medical and related expenses, has sustained permanent disability.” The extent of his physical disability was not outlined in court documents.
Dr. Priscilla Clarkson of the University of Massachusetts contends that Lopez encouraged Mimms to perform exercises known to produce rhabdomyolysis. “Adequate precautions to prevent such a condition from occurring were not taken,” Clarkson wrote in documents prepared for the lawsuit.
Gray Cook, a physical therapist who consults with a host of NFL teams on strength and conditioning, said CrossFit is not dangerous unless performed by people not physically prepared for its intensity.
Cook stressed that he did not want to disparage CrossFit, and that the program has inherent benefits, such as keeping people active and preventing boredom by mixing up workouts. His concern is that novice participants don’t know what they’re getting into.
“Football players practice a lot more than they play for a reason,” Cook said. “You are not supposed to test drive the system as much as you tune it up.”
Mimms is certainly not the only service member to induce rhabdo with a strenuous workout. An article in the February/March 2008 issue of the Medical Surveillance Monthly Report, published by the Armed Forces Health Surveillance Center, indicates the ailment is on the rise across the services.
There were 114 cases of rhabdo across the military services in 2004, four of which required hospitalization. The number rose to 159 in 2007, including 34 that required hospital visits.
No individual cause is provided for the rise in the number of rhabdo cases, and CrossFit is not mentioned in the four-page article.
The article states that troops struck with rhabdo are more likely to be from Army and Marine units, that cases tend to occur in the summer, and that blacks and other nonwhite service members are at a higher risk of suffering from the ailment.
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swedish= natural spike=on steroids
so the discussion between those two is pointless from the beginning. Swedish, nice NATURAL physique.
Spike: how many people do you bullshit on a daily basis about how they can get as big as you...without telling em about...you know STEROIDS ?
And how do you explain to em that you had to use steroids because you were too insecure being smaller not using em?
it's only Your own opinion to think that everyone has insecurities requiring em to get "bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger" ... Some people just enjoy getting healthier and healthier ... sometimes i doubt you re a certified trainer, cause you obviously lack some basic psychological skills, at least when you bragg on the internet...
To me most meatheads like you discourage newcommers in the gym, they dont motivate em. Basically you sound like the typical juiced certified trainer who sincerely despise newbies and laugh at em while training em while parading in the gym highfiving his fellow juiced gymrats friends .
You represent everything that is wrong with nowaday gym staffs. But hey, it wont prevent newbies from suscribing we all know that. It's the way it works.
Fortunately there are some humble and dedicated NATURAL personal trainers who are really compassionate about their customers and can use some psychology here and there instead of just bullshiting em. Must be a bore for em to work with people like you.
Who cares what your degrees or certificates are when we can hear you talk the way you do: you re obviously an asshole who seems to hate naturals with a passion for some reasons. Nobody aggressed you here in the first place, funny isnt it.
Maybe you shoud lower your dosages ?
you talk like a 175lb twink
now if you read my previous post I have never denied being 'juiced' and I offer advice
I fckn trained college athletes for my internship - as a C.S.C.S. cert trainer (go look that up, dyck) - I believe crossfit is UNFIT for older adults 40+
Viking and me had a misunderstanding but we basically got on the same page - I respect his passion for fitness as I do anyone - I dont knock 'little guys' except when they talk outta their ass as you have just shown us
what I do is my OWN THING in regaurds to steroids, I won teen states and just stayed with it thru college, I trained with a pro (Mi.ke Vale.nti. no but we had a falling out) - if someone ask (albeit a dumb redneck kid, I tell them I take shit) - I juice to stay competitive not make myself feel better or whatever you have to tell yourself cause you cant afford gh/anabolics
I am a well respected personal trainer, I go to a gym as well as peoples houses, I kid no one who REALLY wants to know what it is I do - I train mostly females - 35-47yr old females - one is diabetic and a few are menopausal - I am educated and cert to do this shit - I just diagree with crossfit for SOME people - Viking do your thing bro he looks good, I knocked him but he knows his shit and I respect that
my whole point was crossfit doesnt have major INSURANCE coverage for a reason - it is unfit and VERY risky training for MOST OLDER SEMI ACTIVE ADULTS - it works for VIking obviously and props to him
but this whole "your a scumbag juicer who disrespects everyone" is BS ------ I dont sell nor condone the use of PEDs BUT if one of my clients needs advising I am well versed to do so
learn from your mistakes son :o
shout to Vince G - your in my book now brah - I will never knock you again cause you backed me ;)
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I guess you think that people who "weight" less than you are some kind of "untermenschen" right? ;)
What when you wont be able to stay on the juice for some reasons later in your life and will have to shrink to a normal human size like us all again ?
Talk about being vain and not having a clue about life.
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I guess you think that people who "weight" less than you are some kind of "untermenschen" right? ;)
What when you wont be able to stay on the juice for some reasons later in your life and will have to shrink to a normal human size like us all again ?
Talk about being vain and not having a clue about life.
where do you get this from......I appreciate anyone who worksout at period....whose on off 'juice'.....my fckn degree is based on health and wellness, nutrition......anyone who prectices that I give respect
you sound mad cause you stared at my pics too long -- I am a competitive bodybuilder - what I do to stay on my level on comp has shit all to do with you and neither does it affect anyone around me....vain?how? I make peoples lives better thru fitness....I diet and do the things I tell them to do (not all year) but who the fck cares?
you are tryin to 'read' who I am and make me out to be some hardass walking around pushin guys like you outta my bar and being a dick in the gym.....I rock ed hardy t on weekends when I used to go out...I manage a bar on weekends so end to that shit
your the lil guy walking around with ILS and dollars to doughnuts you own a TAPOUT shirt and you call out anyone you think is a 'juicer'.....you'd luv my ass in your gym cause you would have someone to talk about and criticize all the time....your that I guy
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I checked out the site. Crossfit is really not well defined. It's a large archive of continually growing number of exercises and routines that really doesn't address any specific purpose other than excelling at the workout itself. You can say it addresses generalized fitness - mostly muscular endurance, with aerobic and anaerobic benefits.
Bodybuilding, traditionally, is almost entirely anaerobic, with the sole pursuit of muscular hypertrophy.
If your pursuit is optimal muscular gains, then it stands to reason that Crossfit would not be as effective or constitute a comparative replacement from orthodox BB'ing.
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I checked out the site. Crossfit is really not well defined. It's a large archive of continually growing number of exercises and routines that really doesn't address any specific purpose other than excelling at the workout itself. You can say it addresses generalized fitness - mostly muscular endurance, with aerobic and anaerobic benefits.
Bodybuilding, traditionally, is almost entirely anaerobic, with the sole pursuit of muscular hypertrophy.
If your pursuit is optimal muscular gains, then it stands to reason that Crossfit would not be as effective or constitute a comparative replacement from orthodox BB'ing.
let alone working out to be safe and refrain from injury - prevent heart disease and metabolic disorders
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I am not sure what it is about that training, but CrossFit makes men look like twinks and women look awesome. Take a look at the CrossFit site or go to a local CrossFit gym. The woman look fantastic and the men look like prisoners of war.
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I guess you think that people who "weight" less than you are some kind of "untermenschen" right? ;)
What when you wont be able to stay on the juice for some reasons later in your life and will have to shrink to a normal human size like us all again ?
Talk about being vain and not having a clue about life.
Another judgemental, self righteous, condescending, angry guy, who needs to tell people how they should live their lives. ::) Like they have it all figured out and we should all follow their lead. LOL
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where do you get this from......I appreciate anyone who worksout at period....
Maybe from this?
you talk like a 175lb twink
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Maybe from this?
you talk like a 175lb twink
Thats out of context ape, the guy attacked Spike out of the blue.
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Maybe from this?
you talk like a 175lb twink
1.a. I guess you think that people who "weight" less than you are some kind of "untermenschen" right? ;)
2.a. What when you wont be able to stay on the juice for some reasons later in your life and will have to shrink to a normal human size like us all again ?
3.a. Talk about being vain and not having a clue about life.
I never disrepected him in a way that would lead him to believe this:
1. he talked out of his ass so I said he sounded like 175lb twink i.e. the kid who walks around acting like a hardass and pugnacious as fck
2. staying on juice later in my life? kid is judging me right there - which leads back to wear do you get this from - when have I mentioned my plains for my later life, they dont include PEDs and I;m fckn 26 - sure I want to be this big the rest of my life ::) just right now and things the way they are - it works and its relatively easy, let alone it makes my job better/easier - people listen in regards to training if you walk the walk.......
3. when do I sound vain? once again judging me, if anything I settled this little fck down with m y eariler post then his judgmental ass comes out of east jesus nowhere with his rants
- totally unfounded and unsubstantiated claims :-*
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I was only kidding, Spike. The exchange between you and SV was actually a really good read. You both know your stuff.
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Cross fit is good for an occasional change up but because it's done so quickly, an experienced lifter with 3 or more years under his belt will NOT build a lot of size or strength. It's more endurance and cardiovascular.
Plus I've seen some really SLOPPY pull up form in some of those videos :-\
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In any event, Crossfit to me is no different than P90X and it will pass very soon as another fad and then come back in about 10-20 years.
...at which point, interested parties will be able to purchase an all-in-one CrossFit Kit from your bottom shelf at a fraction of the price of your competitors. ::)
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Look people, for the most part and from what I've seen, crossfit is mostly held in peoples garages or back yards. If you look at the crossfit protocol (if you know anything about athletic type training) it's very injury prone protocol. I've done alot of research on crossfit and even most of the instructors are not very experienced let alone qualified to teach training mechanics or progressive conditioning.
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all i know is, the quote function is being fucking raped in this thread.
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yes
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all i know is, the quote function is being fucking raped in this thread.
yip, yip like vince in prison.
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I know, what's the matter with people on here posting functional shit on a bodybuilding site.....the nerve of some!
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I know, what's the matter with people on here posting functional shit on a bodybuilding site.....the nerve of some!
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