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Title: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: blacken700 on September 06, 2009, 07:23:26 AM
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: 240 is Back on September 06, 2009, 07:47:52 AM
haha i guess newt is a tratorous lib now too, huh guys?
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: tonymctones on September 06, 2009, 08:09:29 AM
i have no problem with the president talking to school children as far as i know presidents have been doing this for ages now. You guys have to admit though that obama likes to inject political idealogy into just about every aspect of any speech he gives I think this is why there is concern. I agree though if you dont like it pull your kids out for the day take them to mcdonalds im sure they would enjoy that much more then listening to some guy who they really could care less about talk.
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: Straw Man on September 06, 2009, 08:41:22 AM
i have no problem with the president talking to school children as far as i know presidents have been doing this for ages now. You guys have to admit though that obama likes to inject political idealogy into just about every aspect of any speech he gives I think this is why there is concern. I agree though if you dont like it pull your kids out for the day take them to mcdonalds im sure they would enjoy that much more then listening to some guy who they really could care less about talk.

No one seemed to mind when Reagan did it:  http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909030020

Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: Mons Venus on September 06, 2009, 11:09:33 AM
haha i guess newt is a tratorous lib now too, huh guys?

                               
CRICKETS
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: 240 is Back on September 06, 2009, 11:18:16 AM
i have no problem with the president talking to school children as far as i know presidents have been doing this for ages now. You guys have to admit though that obama likes to inject political idealogy into just about every aspect of any speech he gives I think this is why there is concern. I agree though if you dont like it pull your kids out for the day take them to mcdonalds im sure they would enjoy that much more then listening to some guy who they really could care less about talk.

witht he amt of scrutiny this speech has, i'm guessing it's the most vanilla 'work hard, stay in school' speech in history.

that being said, winers on the far-right will still sqwak about they not wanting their kids learning about that stuff. 
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: Mons Venus on September 06, 2009, 11:25:13 AM
GOP = Potatoe 

Whyyy sohould owur kiids be morerr learned?
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: headhuntersix on September 06, 2009, 12:13:31 PM
Reagans' speech was about American and was also a Q@A...not a broadcast with a lesson plan attached. Media Matters is really reaching, they aren't even the same. Nobody said that we needed to help Reagan...this some wack job cult of personality thing.
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: OzmO on September 06, 2009, 12:45:54 PM
Reagans' speech was about American and was also a Q@A...not a broadcast with a lesson plan attached. Media Matters is really reaching, they aren't even the same. Nobody said that we needed to help Reagan...this some wack job cult of personality thing.

What ever it is, the whole uproar about certain people's fears regarding Obama's speech turned out to be alarmism 
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: headhuntersix on September 06, 2009, 12:56:50 PM
This is one event or thing in a long line of messianic like BS. If it were the first thing, no big deal. But with the posters and the speeches/rallies.....its creepy.
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: 240 is Back on September 06, 2009, 01:00:00 PM
What ever it is, the whole uproar about certain people's fears regarding Obama's speech turned out to be alarmism 

alarmism seems to be a common theme from the right.

the prob with this is that we don't know what are serious concerns we should have with obama, and what are just drama queen pissy moments.

They give the same voracity to cap/trade as they do to a positive motivational speech to some little kids who probably won't be paying attention anyway.  Independents realize 'that speech wasn't so bad - why did FOX and friends cry so much about it?"

They lose their ability to have any impact by melting over every single thing.
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: OzmO on September 06, 2009, 01:05:43 PM
This is one event or thing in a long line of messianic like BS. If it were the first thing, no big deal. But with the posters and the speeches/rallies.....its creepy.

People like him.  So what?
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: OzmO on September 06, 2009, 01:08:05 PM
alarmism seems to be a common theme from the right.

the prob with this is that we don't know what are serious concerns we should have with obama, and what are just drama queen pissy moments.

They give the same voracity to cap/trade as they do to a positive motivational speech to some little kids who probably won't be paying attention anyway.  Independents realize 'that speech wasn't so bad - why did FOX and friends cry so much about it?"

They lose their ability to have any impact by melting over every single thing.

It seems just like a role reversal from when BUSH was president.
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2009, 05:08:58 PM
What ever it is, the whole uproar about certain people's fears regarding Obama's speech turned out to be alarmism 

Not really.  They backed off the original plan of trying to get kids to write something of a political nature.  To that extent, the uproar worked.  He should be doing exactly what Gingrich said:  encourage kids to stay in school, study hard, etc.  Nothing wrong with that. 
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: OzmO on September 06, 2009, 05:35:55 PM
Not really.  They backed off the original plan of trying to get kids to write something of a political nature.  To that extent, the uproar worked.  He should be doing exactly what Gingrich said:  encourage kids to stay in school, study hard, etc.  Nothing wrong with that. 

What was it they were trying to get them to write that was political in nature?
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2009, 05:39:37 PM
What was it they were trying to get them to write that was political in nature?

I forget exactly what they requested, but it something like have the kids give the president ideas about how to better do his job.  Something like that. 
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: OzmO on September 06, 2009, 05:57:08 PM
I forget exactly what they requested, but it something like have the kids give the president ideas about how to better do his job.  Something like that. 

What's wrong with that?  It gets kids thinking/involved
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2009, 06:04:24 PM
What's wrong with that?  It gets kids thinking/involved

With politics and personalities involved completely out of the picture, nothing is wrong with that.  But when a partisan is making the request, the cynic will question whether he is trying to create little disciples.  They apparently realized how their lesson plan could be misconstrued and backed off.   
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: OzmO on September 06, 2009, 06:30:38 PM
With politics and personalities involved completely out of the picture, nothing is wrong with that.  But when a partisan is making the request, the cynic will question whether he is trying to create little disciples.  They apparently realized how their lesson plan could be misconstrued and backed off.   

PC-ness BS is so wonderful isn't it?  but i kind of agree.  It's a better assignment for a teacher to give.
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2009, 06:47:33 AM
haha i guess newt is a tratorous lib now too, huh guys?

240 - the issue was the lesson plan the DOE sent to the schools along with the speech. 
Title: Re: Newt Gingrich says Obama's speech to school kids is appropriate
Post by: Mons Venus on September 07, 2009, 06:57:50 AM



Newt is fuucckin wrong!!! Reading our children "My Pet Goat" ONCE should suffice.