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Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 08, 2009, 02:52:10 PM
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Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: emn1964 on September 08, 2009, 02:52:50 PM
PIP. . .actually sounds like patella tendonitis.  get some nubain and you will be fine.
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: mass 04 on September 08, 2009, 03:23:02 PM
*insert blowjob joke here*
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: bigbobs on September 08, 2009, 03:33:56 PM
Start every leg workout with about 3-5 minutes on the bike, then pre-exhaust with leg extensions, or at least do a few warmups on the leg extension machine.  Also, do a light set of leg extensions after each warm up set with squats. 

If this still doesn't work then have your gym put up a picture of Nasser doing squats near the squat rack

Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: WillGrant on September 08, 2009, 03:35:59 PM
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Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on September 08, 2009, 04:00:50 PM
Is your hamstrings strong enough?
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: d0nny2600 on September 08, 2009, 04:02:03 PM
Start every leg workout with about 3-5 minutes on the bike, then pre-exhaust with leg extensions, or at least do a few warmups on the leg extension machine.  Also, do a light set of leg extensions after each warm up set with squats. 

If this still doesn't work then have your gym put up a picture of Nasser doing squats near the squat rack


Dont forget the "daisy dukes"  :-X
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: GroinkTropin on September 08, 2009, 04:41:28 PM
Knee problems can usually be fixed with heavy duty stretches. Stretch your hams and calves especially. See if this clears the problem up. Also ice for 15-20 minutes 2-3 times daily. Hope it helps.
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: stuntmovie on September 08, 2009, 05:24:13 PM
Huge, I had a similar (and often painful) knee problem until one of the trainers suggested that I get on the stationary bike and ride like hell for a few minutes each workout. I complained that that would only aggravate it, but I gave it a try anyway ... and within a few days of "riding like hell" my knee problems completely disappeared.

Not sure if this is of any help, but you might want to give it a try. If it does persist, you might need medical attention. Heavy squats will usually lead to knee problems sooner or later.

Good luck to ya. My best to your bro.





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Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on September 08, 2009, 05:32:25 PM
Start every leg workout with about 3-5 minutes on the bike, then pre-exhaust with leg extensions, or at least do a few warmups on the leg extension machine.  Also, do a light set of leg extensions after each warm up set with squats. 

If this still doesn't work then have your gym put up a picture of Nasser doing squats near the squat rack


Wear boots and shredded denim shorts and remember, it ain't the denim - it's what's in 'em
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: Deadpool on September 08, 2009, 05:40:39 PM
go to the doctor and get perks.  Wont solve the problem but you'll be happy, very happy, mmmmm.
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: WillGrant on September 08, 2009, 06:11:55 PM
go to the doctor and get perks.  Wont solve the problem but you'll be happy, very happy, mmmmm.
How is you fat loss going Medford?
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: benchmstr on September 08, 2009, 06:19:48 PM
nubain and deca. and stop blowing shmoes to give your knees a break................... ...i know this is asking a lot of you.

bench
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: benchmstr on September 08, 2009, 06:55:24 PM

Thanks!  This actually sounds very much like the problem I'm having.  I looked it up online after you posted it, and the symptoms are very similar.  Probably going to try taking some Ibuprofen everyday for a while until it subsides.  Going to continue squatting though.  Key part of my workouts, and refuse to take it out :)

and there is your mistake!

dont be a slave to the squat rack, leg press works just as good. i had the same knee problems i stopped squating for 9 months.....and guess what, my leggs were bigger and my knees didnt hurt anymore.

bench
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: Luv2Hurt on September 08, 2009, 07:09:48 PM
Alright Getbiggers,

I'm looking for a little help on a problem I recently started having.  My knees are getting a lot of pressure and pain in them when I squat down. 

About 2 months ago I slammed my foot down on the ground and kind of hurt my knee.  Knee hasnt felt the same since.  Now my other knee is feeling the same way.  Pressure when I bend into a squat movement. 

I didnt lift for about 3 weeks, but the pressure remains even when doing a squat with no weight.

When I do squats with weight, the pressure feels the worst when I have light weight, then as the weight gets heavier, the pain and pressure seem to be less noticeable. 


Any ideas on what the problem is, and also possible solutions.  Ive never had any knee problems in the past, and am still young, so I don't know of what would have caused it all of a sudden besides the slight injury I had a couple months ago, but that still doesn't explain both knees having hte problem now. 

Thanks.

If you are injured you need to rest it and not keep aggravating it.  Once the pain stops start back very light and work up a little bit more each week.  In a couple months you should be back to your old weights again.  If it hurts the weight is too heavy for rehab.

Also make sure your squat form is correct.  many people break at the knees first to initiate the squat.  they call this knee squatters, first thing should be to drop your ass into the squat not bend the knees.

The heavy weights not causing pain is cause your body and the area is flushed with adrenaline and cortisol stress hormones taking the pain away temporarily. They are flight/stress hormones that allow you to get away from bad situations if injured and sticking around might get you killed.  But you will be making things worse if you just work through it.  Now if the Superbowl was tomorrow and you were in it I would say go for it.
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: Rami on September 08, 2009, 07:19:05 PM
always do dead lifts before the squats every time you squat
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: BayGBM on September 08, 2009, 10:41:37 PM
Alright Getbiggers,

I'm looking for a little help on a problem I recently started having.  My knees are getting a lot of pressure and pain in them when I squat down. 

About 2 months ago I slammed my foot down on the ground and kind of hurt my knee.  Knee hasnt felt the same since.  Now my other knee is feeling the same way.  Pressure when I bend into a squat movement. 

I didnt lift for about 3 weeks, but the pressure remains even when doing a squat with no weight.

When I do squats with weight, the pressure feels the worst when I have light weight, then as the weight gets heavier, the pain and pressure seem to be less noticeable. 


Any ideas on what the problem is, and also possible solutions.  Ive never had any knee problems in the past, and am still young, so I dont know of what would have caused it all of a sudden besides the slight injury I had a couple months ago, but that still doesnt explain both knees having hte problem now.


Thanks.

How old are you?
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2009, 11:04:02 PM
PIP. . .actually sounds like patella tendonitis.  get some nubain and you will be fine.

Patella tendonitis doesn't occur from a trauma injury.
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: gordiano on September 09, 2009, 12:29:36 AM
Knee problems can usually be fixed with heavy duty stretches. Stretch your hams and calves especially. See if this clears the problem up. Also ice for 15-20 minutes 2-3 times daily. Hope it helps.

Good advices...
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 09, 2009, 12:40:18 AM
Stop leg stuff till its healed

You sound like the Dr that athletes go to too hear the wrong thing.
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: Vince B on September 09, 2009, 12:55:34 AM
It depends on what the injury is. There are specialists who could diagnose what is wrong with your knee.

Some practical advice. If you are a bodybuilder you shouldn't jump up and down on hard surfaces. Like playing basketball on pavement, etc. Guys who work as storemen shouldn't jump down on the ground because the impacts will eventually cause damage in the knees. Running on the street and especially downhill will do the same. Buy the best running shoes you can afford and ones that have plenty of cushioning under the soles.

The exercises to avoid that can lead to sore knees are hack squats, lunges, and even leg extensions. The one piece of gym equipment that doesn't hurt the knees is the older Nautilus Duo Squat machine.

Here is something I did back in 1975 to get rid of sore knees. I figured out later I was aggravating the soreness from jumping on outdoor basketball courts when I was a PE teacher. I could jump up and touch the rim from a standing start underneath and because my weight was over 225 pounds the impact was sufficient to cause damage under the knees. I thought it was squatting because there were fears in the PE department that squats cause sore knees. That study was later found to be false. They had selected people who already had tender knees.

Anyway, go to a squat rack or Smith machine and start out with just the bar. Do five full to the floor reps. Add 10 pounds on each side and do another 5 reps. Keep adding 10 pounds a side until you can just finish the 5 reps. You should find that your sore knees are better.

Now, if at any time you get sharp pains while lifting stop immediately because you have a definite injury.
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: stuntmovie on September 09, 2009, 03:03:53 AM
Some good and well-intended advice throughout this thread.

Is there a name for doctors who who specialize in knee problems?

"Kneeologist"?

I am running into a good number of older, long distance runners and weight-lifters who are experiencing similar knee problems, but none of them have been serious enough yet to ssek professional medical attention outside of "riding like hell".

"Riding" seems to work well for most people I know with knee problems though. Can anyone explain why?   ???
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: bigdumbbell on September 09, 2009, 03:08:39 AM
seek treatment from good acupuncturist
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: Tapeworm on September 09, 2009, 03:15:33 AM
Some good and well-intended advice throughout this thread.

Is there a name for doctors who who specialize in knee problems?

"Kneeologist"?

I am running into a good number of older, long distance runners and weight-lifters who are experiencing similar knee problems, but none of them have been serious enough yet to ssek professional medical attention outside of "riding like hell".

"Riding" seems to work well for most people I know with knee problems though. Can anyone explain why?   ???

Maybe it helps work and lubricate the joint without putting it under excessive load, which leads to less trauma under heavier load and better joint recovery?  Who knows.  My old man has knee trouble and swears it's better now after becoming a regular cyclist than it was a few years ago.  I like your suggestion.
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: Butterbean on September 09, 2009, 07:47:06 AM
Alright Getbiggers,

I'm looking for a little help on a problem I recently started having.  My knees are getting a lot of pressure and pain in them when I squat down. 

About 2 months ago I slammed my foot down on the ground and kind of hurt my knee.  Knee hasnt felt the same since.  Now my other knee is feeling the same way.  Pressure when I bend into a squat movement. 

I didnt lift for about 3 weeks, but the pressure remains even when doing a squat with no weight.

When I do squats with weight, the pressure feels the worst when I have light weight, then as the weight gets heavier, the pain and pressure seem to be less noticeable. 


Any ideas on what the problem is, and also possible solutions.  Ive never had any knee problems in the past, and am still young, so I dont know of what would have caused it all of a sudden besides the slight injury I had a couple months ago, but that still doesnt explain both knees having hte problem now.


Thanks.

Just as a general question when was the last time you bought new athletic shoes?  Sounds like it could be more than that but my knee(s) start to hurt when it is time for new shoes. 

Sometimes it's as simple as new shoes...I hope that is the case for you

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Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: stuntmovie on September 09, 2009, 10:34:14 AM
Shoes and cycling and rest and stretching seem to be the predominant "prescriptions" here. All inexpensive  home made remedies here, but hardly a mention of a visit to a doctor's office!

But if someone with knee problems made an appointment with an appropriate doctor, would that doctor recommend anything otherwise? And what would it cost for that 'sage' advice?
Title: Re: QUESTION - Problem with Knees
Post by: Rinc on September 09, 2009, 02:47:59 PM
Warm up properly and take 500mg of glucosamine sulfate 4x's a day, worked for me.