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Title: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: mogulgangi on September 10, 2009, 10:34:22 PM
can they both mix.......

lately i have been noticing in life how many used to be pip squueks (all the mma fan base) and losers have been involving themselves in mma training and fighting....Everyone thinks they are an mma fighter just because they train at the local top team house...me, i just like to be big...but i dont want to be the one who gets knocked out by a used to be douche now rocking affliction and tap out shirts who spikes their hair land a hard one on me because they have been seeing an instructor and they been paying it with their moms credit card....yea you can fight, but fighting a trained individual is different....

can i still be a legit body builder...or do I have to be a all out fighter
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 10, 2009, 10:40:22 PM
No, you cannot be both. Bodybuilding type training and training like an athlete are completely the opposite.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: mogulgangi on September 10, 2009, 10:44:14 PM
im sick of all these tools.....they want to act tough and hard just because they are wearing a tap out shirt and they took 2 classes....they would of never been who they are if they didnt start watchin the ufc lately......
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: trustnoone on September 10, 2009, 10:44:25 PM
Bodybuilders can't fight.


Hope that heeps.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Matt C on September 10, 2009, 10:46:06 PM
Bodybuilders can't fight.


Hope that heeps.

I'm not so sure it would be all that easy to toss around a 250 pound man of solid muscle.  I imagine for some of these guys that their size and strength does help.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: trustnoone on September 10, 2009, 10:47:40 PM
I'm not so sure it would be all that easy to toss around a 250 pound man of solid muscle.  I imagine for some of these guys that their size and strength does help.
BB's are like a bad ass 69 camaro with a 4 cyl in it.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: mogulgangi on September 10, 2009, 10:50:45 PM
I'm not so sure it would be all that easy to toss around a 250 pound man of solid muscle.  I imagine for some of these guys that their size and strength does help.

its not dude...its tough for anyone...but they got the advantage of knowing "some" ju jitzu...some of those weird movies...it pisses me off
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 10, 2009, 10:54:25 PM
I'm not so sure it would be all that easy to toss around a 250 pound man of solid muscle.  I imagine for some of these guys that their size and strength does help.

Keep them in stand up long enough for them to gas (would take about a minute literally) and if they take you down stay out of their guard long enough for them to gas (would take about a minute). Bodybuilders worse defence is no function and no conditioning.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: trustnoone on September 10, 2009, 11:04:41 PM
Keep them in stand up long enough for them to gas (would take about a minute literally) and if they take you down stay out of their guard long enough for them to gas (would take about a minute). Bodybuilders worse defence is no function and no conditioning.
"Their guard" hahahaha! OK I'm sure most bb's even know what a guard is.


Most BB"s strut around running their mouths and are the first ones to call the pigs if you throw them a little smackaroo on their shit talking mouths.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: @Brandon on September 10, 2009, 11:07:45 PM
Stick with bodybuilding.

Training MMA will make you lose some size.

You sound a bit confused MMA training is not for you.



Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: mogulgangi on September 10, 2009, 11:16:48 PM
Stick with bodybuilding.

Training MMA will make you lose some size.

You sound a bit confused MMA training is not for you.






self defense is sooo important to know now...everyone has taken a "class"....soo many egos in south florida
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Tyr on September 10, 2009, 11:34:37 PM
Bodybuilders can't fight.


Hope that heeps.


Tell that to titus. Pity the titus vs Baroni thing fizzled out
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: americanbulldog on September 11, 2009, 12:05:04 AM
Performance and aesthetics rarely mix.  Bodybuilders bodybuild, fighters fight.  Hard to do both.  BJ, 5-9 cuts to 155.  GSP 5'11 cuts to 170.  Anderson Silva 6'2, cuts to 185.  Machida, 6'1 cuts to 205.  Brock, 6'4 cuts to 265.  Hard to be 5'11, 300 lbs and be functional. 
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 11, 2009, 02:29:28 AM
I lost 2stone,thats 28lbs in 3months of mma training 3years ago,and I was useless at it anyway and I prefer weights
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: TestDummy on September 11, 2009, 02:42:41 AM

Tell that to titus. Pity the titus vs Baroni thing fizzled out

I was just thinkin about that, I remember Titus talkin about carrying a knife is his gym bag for awhile...
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 11, 2009, 03:00:19 AM
they don't mix if you're trying to excel at both.  If you're just wanting to look decently built and be able to fight, yea go for it...
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Team Diver on September 11, 2009, 01:13:09 PM
Bodybuilders can't fight.


Hope that heeps.

Van Damme?!
Bolo?!
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Signifying Monkey on September 11, 2009, 01:22:13 PM
Performance and aesthetics rarely mix.  Bodybuilders bodybuild, fighters fight.  Hard to do both.  BJ, 5-9 cuts to 155.  GSP 5'11 cuts to 170.  Anderson Silva 6'2, cuts to 185.  Machida, 6'1 cuts to 205.  Brock, 6'4 cuts to 265.  Hard to be 5'11, 300 lbs and be functional. 

Jeff Monson and Paulo Filho show that it is possible to have some degree of mass. Manhoef is probably more muscular than 98% of getbiggers too
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 11, 2009, 01:23:07 PM
Debussey may have some comments on this 8)
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: ironneck on September 11, 2009, 01:34:10 PM
ronnie coleman can fight very good
he once beat up  chuck norris i heard
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2009, 01:35:31 PM
Van Damme?!
Bolo?!


They didn't have mma back then, Bolo kept his athletsism and at least in his movies moved slow. VanDamme was 140 soak and wet.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on September 11, 2009, 01:38:09 PM
They mix if you're using gear, otherwise all the cardio from the MMA will make it impossible to put on size, I did both for a while, cross training in muay thai, boxing and grappling along with regular lifting, if you're not taking any anabolics you'll drop down in weight/size like crazy. Also having certain muscles get too big limits your movement a lot..esp. shoulders, traps and arms.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 11, 2009, 01:41:28 PM
They mix if you're using gear, otherwise all the cardio from the MMA will make it impossible to put on size, I did both for a while, cross training in muay thai, boxing and grappling along with regular lifting, if you're not taking any anabolics you'll drop down in weight/size like crazy. Also having certain muscles get too big limits your movement a lot..esp. shoulders, traps and arms.


They don't mix at all. You don't train bodybuilder style when training mma......period.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: ManBearPig... on September 11, 2009, 02:04:38 PM
i wouldn't lose sleep over it.  tapout wearing douches only pick fights with other douches.  contrary to what we say on here, the vast majority of people still won't go out of their way to pick a fight with a musclehead, no matter how many affliction shirts they have on.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: FREAKgeek on September 11, 2009, 02:26:12 PM
im sick of all these tools.....they want to act tough and hard just because they are wearing a tap out shirt and they took 2 classes....they would of never been who they are if they didnt start watchin the ufc lately......

But, you want to act and look tough, but not back it up?
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Earl1972 on September 11, 2009, 04:13:45 PM
why is everybody worried about getting in a fight these days?

are some of you still in high school?

E
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on September 11, 2009, 04:37:13 PM
i wouldn't lose sleep over it.  tapout wearing douches only pick fights with other douches.  contrary to what we say on here, the vast majority of people still won't go out of their way to pick a fight with a musclehead, no matter how many affliction shirts they have on.




 Would you like to win a ticket to Brazil?

  8)
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on September 11, 2009, 04:42:21 PM
They don't mix at all. You don't train bodybuilder style when training mma......period.

No shit, I think you misunderstood me...I meant you can train both at the same time...I thought that's what the question was, as far as actual exercises of course it's two totally diferent methods of training. In MMA you focus a lot more on practical and core exercises, whereas in bodybuilding you train for aesthetics and to get a good pump.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: The Master on September 11, 2009, 04:45:46 PM
No shit, I think you misunderstood me...I meant you can train both at the same time...I thought that's what the question was, as far as actual exercises of course it's two totally diferent methods of training. In MMA you focus a lot more on practical and core exercises, whereas in bodybuilding you train for aesthetics and to get a good pump.


PUMP THOSE SWEEPS!


MBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on September 11, 2009, 04:55:54 PM
PUMP THOSE SWEEPS!


MBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Is your wrist better dude?!? I've been practicing my 8 finger tapping! ;)
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: The Master on September 11, 2009, 04:57:59 PM
Is your wrist better dude?!? I've been practicing my 8 finger tapping! ;)



IT HAS IMPROVED! BUT PLAYING CLASSICSAL PIANO MOSTLU NOW!

THE CHALLENGE WILL HAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPEN! 8)
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on September 11, 2009, 05:00:21 PM

IT HAS IMPROVED! BUT PLAYING CLASSICSAL PIANO MOSTLU NOW!

THE CHALLENGE WILL HAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPEN! 8)

Cool, me  too! I've been teaching myself the piano lately.. I used to know basics before like chord shapes and some theory, scales etc. but now I'm going deeper..particularly like Sonata's like this one:

It's based on one of Haydn's works... Cantable in B minor
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: The Master on September 11, 2009, 05:01:31 PM
Cool, me  too! I've been teaching myself the piano lately.. I used to know basics before like chord shapes and some theory, scales etc. but now I'm going deeper..particularly like Sonata's like this one:

It's based on one of Haydn's works... Cantable in B minor

HAVE YOU STARTED WITH THE HANON EXERCSISES?
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 11, 2009, 05:05:43 PM
MMA training could damage your philanges for piano playing 8)
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: The Master on September 11, 2009, 05:07:30 PM
MMA training could damage your philanges for piano playing 8)


NO PROBLEM! DEBUYSSE SUCK ANYEWAY :(
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: haider on September 11, 2009, 05:31:07 PM
debussey and MMA training, haha oh brother what a wanna be nerd
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: ManBearPig... on September 11, 2009, 05:46:45 PM



 Would you like to win a ticket to Brazil?

  8)

i didn't mean that statement to come off as me talking shit, it's just how it is.  i haven't been in a fight or close to one since college, and intend to keep it that way.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: K-1 on September 11, 2009, 05:53:27 PM
can they both mix.......

lately i have been noticing in life how many used to be pip squueks (all the mma fan base) and losers have been involving themselves in mma training and fighting....Everyone thinks they are an mma fighter just because they train at the local top team house...me, i just like to be big...but i dont want to be the one who gets knocked out by a used to be douche now rocking affliction and tap out shirts who spikes their hair land a hard one on me because they have been seeing an instructor and they been paying it with their moms credit card....yea you can fight, but fighting a trained individual is different....

can i still be a legit body builder...or do I have to be a all out fighter

I'd like to see them try...LMAO...they'd cramp up 1/4 through imo. lol muscular overload.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: The Master on September 11, 2009, 06:01:16 PM
debussey and MMA training, haha oh brother what a wanna be nerd


FAGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRr 8)
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: tstmaniac on September 11, 2009, 06:34:45 PM
I do both..
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: The Master on September 11, 2009, 06:39:12 PM
I do both men and littl e boys

 :-X
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: FREAKgeek on September 12, 2009, 03:37:42 PM

 Regarding MMA fitness, MMA has considerable, perhaps, primary, importance toward cardiovascular conditioning. But, let's not completely downplay the anaerobic aspect. You do need to be strong. You need explosiveness. There wouldn't be strict weight classes if it was just all skill and cardio. There are a lot of top guys who are "jacked", maybe not to BB standards, but most are natural and would rival a natural BB'er.

And now my societal, adolescent fighting analysis:

 In layman's, the BB'er has the general advantage over a weaker person of similar fighting skill. However, he will lose this advantage if the other weaker guy has better cardio and confidence (does not fall for visual intimidation factor) if the fight carries on and is not stopped soon by KO or submission, or other means. I've seen it first hand, and I have seen the strongest, toughest guys, be humbled by oxygen deprivation. It will make anyone say "I've had enough".
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 12, 2009, 03:46:43 PM
I do both..

Not successfully I promise.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: lifterguy on September 13, 2009, 08:08:04 PM
Not successfully I promise.

I think it depends on how you define "successfully."  There are lots of guys who work out, build a great body and would do well at a local bodybuilding contest (if they even care to compete.)  They would never stand a chance on a national stage.  But compared to many people who post here, I would consider them "successful" bodybuilders.  (They have achieved reasonable goals.)  There are also many guys who train at MMA, develope confidence and would have better than average skills if they ever got into a fight.  But they never step into a ring to fight in a sanctioned match.  I would call that person successful too.  I see little reason why someone could not do both.  While being an MMA champion and a bodybuilding champion at the same time is highly unlikely if not impossible.  Focusing on either sport and becoming a champion is also very unlikely.  Many try, few do it.
Title: Re: bodybuilding and mma training...
Post by: americanbulldog on September 14, 2009, 12:15:47 AM
I think it depends on how you define "successfully."  There are lots of guys who work out, build a great body and would do well at a local bodybuilding contest (if they even care to compete.)  They would never stand a chance on a national stage.  But compared to many people who post here, I would consider them "successful" bodybuilders.  (They have achieved reasonable goals.)  There are also many guys who train at MMA, develope confidence and would have better than average skills if they ever got into a fight.  But they never step into a ring to fight in a sanctioned match.  I would call that person successful too.  I see little reason why someone could not do both.  While being an MMA champion and a bodybuilding champion at the same time is highly unlikely if not impossible.  Focusing on either sport and becoming a champion is also very unlikely.  Many try, few do it.

To be successful at one, you'd have to sacrifice the other.  In fighting, aesthetics has no bearing.  The amount of injuries people get from grappling, striking, wrestling is alarming.  This past Saturday, one of my teamates had his elbow capsule popped, another his ankle, and a third injured his labrum.  This is in a jiu-jitsu match, not MMA.  Now add striking into the mix and the amount of injuries goes up.  I don't think most bodybuilders want to get punched in the face and body daily, or risk the ability to bench press for weeks at a time.  So IMHO, no, it can't be done.