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What a moron.
This fool is amazingly ignorant on economics.
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Why is the fuck would anyone want economic advice from him? All he does is make crappy propaganda films
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Peter Schiff explains how and why america is in the shape it is in. Michael Moore deals with the fallout of the corrupt way america america has been run and points out, like Schiff does in this vid, who the crooks are and the effects of the corruption on the consumer. Notice also Peter gave the WARNING back in 2006!!!
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Peter Schiff explains how and why america is in the shape it is in. Michael Moore deals with the fallout of the corrupt way america america has been run and points out, like Schiff does in this vid, who the crooks are and the effects of the corruption on the consumer. Notice also Peter gave the WARNING back in 2006!!!
Damn Samson- i have a client meeting to go to and wanted to watch this.
Thanks for posting, I will check this out later. ;D
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About Bill Clinton supposedly viewing the combining of investment banking with retail banking a mistake - umm, last time I heard people confront him about it, he DID deny the supposed mistake. Do you really think that Bill Clinton would admit to something like that? But there is actually nothing to deny, because the combining of investment banking and retail banking is NOT was contributed to this mess. The banks that contained BOTH investment and retail banking portfoloios were actually one of the few banks that survived this mess.
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LOL @ Moore.
"It deals with a form of legalized greed"
WTF ? Since when was greed illegal ?
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All the crap he just spewed in this video would have gone a lot further if he would have just released the movie out on the internet for free.
I like the way he danced around Wolf's question about his own personal wealth gain through his movies and capitalism. Way to join the Capitalist Club Mike.
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SAMSON- In the jungle where you live, don't the rest of the apes have some sort of monetary system where the primate with the most bannanas gets to crap in the nicer part of the forest and have sex with the less hairy female apes?
You have spent your entire life living in what essentially amounts to a capitalist offshoot. You know how to read, write and use a computer... why I'll bet that you have more banannas than some of the other apes!
Hasn't the bannana capitalist monetary system been good to you?
Why turn your back on it?!
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Ur work here is done...priceless.... ;D
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SAMSON- In the jungle where you live, don't the rest of the apes have some sort of monetary system where the primate with the most bannanas gets to crap in the nicer part of the forest and have sex with the less hairy female apes?
You have spent your entire life living in what essentially amounts to a capitalist offshoot. You know how to read, write and use a computer... why I'll bet that you have more banannas than some of the other apes!
Hasn't the bannana capitalist monetary system been good to you?
Why turn your back on it?!
GW - Samson surely says some things that are off the wall at time, but why does he gett attacked for posting Schiff's speech. Just asking.
BTW - this speech is extremely sound on economics.
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I don't want to take anything away from Schiff, but... seriously, even Stevie Wonder could see the mortgage debacle coming!
I mean, we saw it with the internet stocks, saw it with the oil bubble, now the MBS crap... Are people really this friggin stupid?
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I don't want to take anything away from Schiff, but... seriously, even Stevie Wonder could see the mortgage debacle coming!
I mean, we saw it with the internet stocks, saw it with the oil bubble, now the MBS crap... Are people really this friggin stupid?
and that's why we thank you for starting a thread to warn everyone before it all started to unwind. ::)
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and that's why we thank you for starting a thread to warn everyone before it all started to unwind. ::)
The problem is that you need warnings to begin with.
It's like driving a car at 100 mph and expecting someone to let you know there's a curve coming. I mean, the problem is not the curve, it's the fact that you're going too fast to make the curve. You can argue all you want, but you should be less guru-dependent and swim against the current more often. Remember: Those who follow the crowd quickly get lost in it.
From Russia with love.
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GW - Samson surely says some things that are off the wall at time, but why does he gett attacked for posting Schiff's speech. Just asking.
BTW - this speech is extremely sound on economics.
333386 I have a confession to make. I didn't even watch the video, or read half of what was posted in this thread. I just saw SAMSON posting some anti capitalist drivel and decided to respond in kind. Not really interested in anything he says, unless it gives me ammo to make fun of him.
I take that approach with probably 75% of the people who post here. SAMSON gets attacked for being SAMSON!
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The problem is that you need warnings to begin with.
It's like driving a car at 100 mph and expecting someone to let you know there's a curve coming. I mean, the problem is not the curve, it's the fact that you're going too fast to make the curve. You can argue all you want, but you should be less guru-dependent and swim against the current more often. Remember: Those who follow the crowd quickly get lost in it.
From Russia with love.
Nice rambling.
Your criticism is misdirected regarding Peter. If Stevie Wonder could see what was coming why was Peter laughed at for years by just about everyone and why aren't you critical of those individuals instead of focusing on "not trying to take anything away" from the guy that had it right?
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The first words out of Michael Moore's mouth is an oxymoron so it's hard to take this guy seriously. He says in the beginning of the interview with Larry King that the capitalism is a failure and is the reason why the economy tanked and these banks basically got away with theft. He goes on to describe the tenets of capitalism. Point being if we had capitalism THE BANKS WOULD HAVE FAILED! That's the point. We don't have capitalism so Michael how can capitalism be the root of the problem? We have state corporatism where corporations are in bed with government and vice versa. And an endless supply of money and it's a brilliant , corrupt and tyrannical relationship. Other than this complete and utter oxymoron by Michael Moore he's right about everything else and brings up a lot of good points. The top 1% of the country owns more than 90% of the rest of the country. And although wealthy Michael Moore is far from that top 1%. I'd even say Larry King is probably just as wealthy as Michael Moore. So his argument is total cliche and a silly one at that.
Like some of the morons on here who say......how dare you criticize your government and your country.......if you hate it so much why don't you leave. It's the same stupid argument that doesn't work.
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The first words out of Michael Moore's mouth is an oxymoron so it's hard to take this guy seriously. He says in the beginning of the interview with Larry King that the capitalism is a failure and is the reason why the economy tanked and these banks basically got away with theft. He goes on to describe the tenets of capitalism. Point being if we had capitalism THE BANKS WOULD HAVE FAILED!
I mention this on the youtube vids but keep getting the thumbs down. Goes to show how brainwashed the public is.
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I mention this on the youtube vids but keep getting the thumbs down. Goes to show how brainwashed the public is.
Youtube comment sections are spammed by college kids and obamabots who cant even count the change in their pocket, let alone give a coherent statement on economics.
If you want a good message board to learn some stuff, the WSJ is really good.
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is that where you get your knowledge, dumbass
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is that where you get your knowledge, dumbass
It sure beats sesame street where you get yours.
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half your posts are proven wrong
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half your posts are proven wrong
Other than the SS one, name one I was proven wrong. Just one.
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whats the ss one
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Youtube comment sections are spammed by college kids and obamabots who cant even count the change in their pocket, let alone give a coherent statement on economics.
If you want a good message board to learn some stuff, the WSJ is really good.
Haha WSJ is owned by News Corporation............t alk about one of the most biased piece of shit newspapers. My god Rupert Murdoch? I thought you were a fairly informed guy, I guess not. It's published by the Dow Jones company for fuck's sake. LOL.
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whats the ss one
The one about the Secret Service story on liveleak. I admit 100% I screwed up on that one and based it on a guess more than fact.
I asked you, which ones other than that have I gotten wrong?
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Haha WSJ is owned by News Corporation............t alk about one of the most biased piece of shit newspapers. My god Rupert Murdoch? I thought you were a fairly informed guy, I guess not. It's published by the Dow Jones company for fuck's sake. LOL.
Hey Muscles - believe it or not, the comments section always have a good debate with various points of view. Im not talking about the articles but the commentary in the comments section.
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to fucking easy
March on D.C. draws 2 million!
September 12, 3:46 PM
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The photo above is a view of part of the crowd of protesters who gathered in Washington, D.C. and around the country today to demand control of reckless runaway government spending and to voice their opposition to the government takeover of healthcare.
D.C. police estimates the crowd at 1.2 million. ABC News, however, reported this afternoon that the crowd was estimated at 2 million.
No matter which way you cut it, the size and scope of today's citizen march on Washington is an historic, groundbreaking event. Ordinary citizens who have been called 'the great silent majority' normally do not protest...at least not in public. That day is long gone.
The outrage expressed by normal, everyday citizens from across the nation at the town hall meetings in August is a case in point. Never before in recent history or memory have citizens been so clearly, visibly--and audibly--enraged by the actions of their government.
These are the people who go to work everyday, pay the bulk of the taxes of the country, raise families, and do their best to provide a safe environment for themselves in their local communities. They don't have time for 'political activism' as the hippies who protested the Viet Nam war.
Yet these dedicated men and women, at great personal expense, took the time to travel to Washington to make their voices heard in a tsunami of collective rage, mainly because they have become convinced that their elected leaders are not listening to them any longer.
And you bet they want 'change.' They want to replace most if not all of the Representatives and Senators in Congress for being hopelessly out of touch with the citizenry. They want a President who loves liberty, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and who reflects that love in the policies that are proposed. They don't want leftwing, radical extremists who espouse everything from forced abortions, healthcare rationing for the elderly, limiting free speech on radio, and other social and political engineering from bureaucrats who sit comfortably in their Washington offices while demanding that ordinary citizens in the heartland adhere to edicts that the politicians have no intention of following.
Further, these patriotic 'peasants with pitchforks and torches' clearly do not want the trillion-dollar proposals that add mind-boggling burdens to the national debt and budget deficit for generations to come. And they don't want their taxes raised to pay for the Washington elitists' insistence on unheard-of government spending that is sending the nation into debtor's quicksand to the tune of 400 billion dollars per month since Obama took office.
The question is, will Pelosi, Reid, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Steny Hoyer, Charles Rangle, and Barack Obama get the message and alter the present course? Don't count on it.
But one thing is for sure. The sleeping giant of the 'great silent majority' has been awakened, and they aren't going anywhere.
For more commentary on other issues, visit my blog at The Liberty Sphere.
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This thing is growing by the day.
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I posted the article that appeared on the internet. I did not claim that for myself. BTW - it was noteworthy and became a subject in the news on various news outlets.
Whats the issue with me posting ana rticle that later became a big topic?
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it was a lie ,spin it as you like it wasn't true
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it was a lie ,spin it as you like it wasn't true
It was a rumour that got passed around and reported as fact. It became the subject of many news debates and on TV shows.
To me, that makes it noteworthy of posting on this board in the politics section.
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it got spread around by all the right wing propaganda people
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it got spread around by all the right wing propaganda people
So if 1/2 of what I say are lies, do you believe the other 1/2?
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is that where you get your knowledge, dumbass
We can always count on you to derail and ruin a thread.
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We can always count on you to derail and ruin a thread.
Back to the thread - Bindare:
In 2006 no one was speaking like Schiff with such specificity.
The funny thing is not only that he called it right, but that speech Samson posted was 1000% spot on to the tee 3 years before anyone said boo.
Even then, in 2007 he was laughed at. In late 2008 - people started paying attention. Even now, people attack him, its amazong.
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Back to the thread - Bindare:
In 2006 no one was speaking like Schiff with such specificity.
The funny thing is not only that he called it right, but that speech Samson posted was 1000% spot on to the tee 3 years before anyone said boo.
Even then, in 2007 he was laughed at. In late 2008 - people started paying attention. Even now, people attack him, its amazong.
Im aware of Peter and his stance on many things. I think I was one of the first guys to post his videos on here. I've kinda slowed down on listening to him though because most of it I've heard for quite a while now. It'll be interesting to see how his senate run goes.
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Nice rambling.
Your criticism is misdirected regarding Peter. If Stevie Wonder could see what was coming why was Peter laughed at for years by just about everyone and why aren't you critical of those individuals instead of focusing on "not trying to take anything away" from the guy that had it right?
I have been mighty critical of everything and everyone that created the internet or mortgage bubble. You're shooting in all directions here.
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Hey Muscles - believe it or not, the comments section always have a good debate with various points of view. Im not talking about the articles but the commentary in the comments section.
Same thing can be said about the comments in a lot of youtube videos. Yes there are morons...look at this board.....but lot of informative comments on youtube as well.
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Same thing can be said about the comments in a lot of youtube videos. Yes there are morons...look at this board.....but lot of informative comments on youtube as well.
You know what muscles - I have been to alot of different political sites, and I always find myself enjoying this one the most, by far. Its not even close.
Sure there are a few yahoos, but overall, everyone is very cool with each other and there are alot of posters here who really are informed relative to the gen. population.
I like most of the people here even that I disagree with.
240 and I may bust each others' nuts, but its all cool. Same for straw, hugo, blacken, KC, lurker, etc., Its sort of like busting balls with your boyz at a bar. At the end of the day everyone goes home with a buzz and a few lumps. Its all good. And most of the time you actually learn stuff here.
The only one on this board I want to see exposed, defamed, humiliated, etc is Mons. That is a POS I cant stand.
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i like the fact they don't stifle either opinion here.
you go to free repub and they delete the anti-repub sutff. same with the anti-dem stuff on Democraticunderground.co m
this place is pretty close to 20%-60%-20% split. some pppl far right, some far left, most moderate, and most fairly educated.
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i like the fact they don't stifle either opinion here.
you go to free repub and they delete the anti-repub sutff. same with the anti-dem stuff on Democraticunderground.co m
this place is pretty close to 20%-60%-20% split. some pppl far right, some far left, most moderate, and most fairly educated.
What I like about it here is everyone is sort of friendly with everyone even when we want to punch each other. Its hard to explain, but this site is actually my favorite for politics even though its a bodybuilding site.
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i like the fact they don't stifle either opinion here.
you go to free repub and they delete the anti-repub sutff. same with the anti-dem stuff on Democraticunderground.co m
this place is pretty close to 20%-60%-20% split. some pppl far right, some far left, most moderate, and most fairly educated.
240 - I was thrown off FR in 2005 for bashing GWB about immigration and a lot of other things. Whats funny is people here call me a Bushbot when I was thrown off a site for bashing him so much.
I guess the mixup of people here is what makes this board good. DU is just ridiculous.
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You know what muscles - I have been to alot of different political sites, and I always find myself enjoying this one the most, by far. Its not even close.
Sure there are a few yahoos, but overall, everyone is very cool with each other and there are alot of posters here who really are informed relative to the gen. population.
I like most of the people here even that I disagree with.
240 and I may bust each others' nuts, but its all cool. Same for straw, hugo, blacken, KC, lurker, etc., Its sort of like busting balls with your boyz at a bar. At the end of the day everyone goes home with a buzz and a few lumps. Its all good. And most of the time you actually learn stuff here.
The only one on this board I want to see exposed, defamed, humiliated, etc is Mons. That is a POS I cant stand.
You should seriously check out www.abovetopsecret.com way better than any site out there.
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You should seriously check out www.abovetopsecret.com way better than any site out there.
I worry too much. every time i visit that site, I get some story about when the dollar will crash and martial law will be installed and we'll all end up in camps and a meteor will hit us, etc. For like 4 years now, I worry then the date passes. Easier just to avoid that place.
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I have been mighty critical of everything and everyone that created the internet or mortgage bubble. You're shooting in all directions here.
I'm shooting in all directions? ???
I think it's amusing that you would try and diminish his accuracy on the housing fiasco at all, instead of just saying he was correct you had find something to critique.
Since you were able to see the housing crisis coming from a mile away maybe you could let us know where the stock market will be in the next year, where the price of gold will be, where unemployment will be, if many more banks will fail, if the FDIC will indeed need a bailout, if there will be another stimulas. I'd like to see who comes closer at nailing their predictions, you or him.
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I worry too much. every time i visit that site, I get some story about when the dollar will crash and martial law will be installed and we'll all end up in camps and a meteor will hit us, etc. For like 4 years now, I worry then the date passes. Easier just to avoid that place.
There are A LOT of intelligent people on that site but yes there are some real morons and many threads are pure BS. But there have been several threads that have TONS of research behind them. There was one that was 22 pages long that involved the Battle of LA. It was fascinating the research that was done in that thread. It's easier for someone to weed through the BS and find the good info.
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I'm shooting in all directions? ???
I think it's amusing that you would try and diminish his accuracy on the housing fiasco at all, instead of just saying he was correct you had find something to critique.
Since you were able to see the housing crisis coming from a mile away maybe you could let us know where the stock market will be in the next year, where the price of gold will be, where unemployment will be, if many more banks will fail, if the FDIC will indeed need a bailout, if there will be another stimulas. I'd like to see who comes closer at nailing their predictions, you or him.
No sir! That's not my job. I was merely saying that we are overdependent on gurus. I am not saying he was wrong, in fact he was indeed right on.
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I worry too much. every time i visit that site, I get some story about when the dollar will crash and martial law will be installed and we'll all end up in camps and a meteor will hit us, etc. For like 4 years now, I worry then the date passes. Easier just to avoid that place.
I worried prior to November 2, 2008, however that nightmare seems to be just beginning and own pass for another 3 1/4 years. ;D ;D ;D