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Title: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: DylanPG on September 25, 2009, 11:09:37 AM
I read in some small fitness magazine that these were one of the worst exercises to do, saying it was bad for nerves in your shoulders or back.

I've always done them as part of my trap workout... Any opinions?
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: mass 04 on September 25, 2009, 01:31:57 PM
I always do my rows flacid.
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: webcake on September 25, 2009, 04:41:34 PM
I always do my rows flacid.

 ;D

Anyway, by erect rows i take it you mean upright rows. Personally i do them with DB's as it feels a little more comfortable. I would probably do them towards the middle/end of the workout when your shoulders/traps are properly warmed up.
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: Montague on September 25, 2009, 08:25:04 PM
Preferring to use this as primarily a shoulder movement, I take a very wide grip and pull the bar to about the sternum.
The bar is kept extremely close to the body, usually brushing against my shirt on most of the way up.

The only time I’ve felt any discomfort was when making the mistake of holding the bar out and away from the body.
And to give an idea of hand spacing, at the topmost position of the rep, my forearms are perpendicular to the ground.
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: webcake on September 25, 2009, 10:50:47 PM
Preferring to use this as primarily a shoulder movement, I take a very wide grip and pull the bar to about the sternum.
The bar is kept extremely close to the body, usually brushing against my shirt on most of the way up.

The only time I’ve felt any discomfort was when making the mistake of holding the bar out and away from the body.
And to give an idea of hand spacing, at the topmost position of the rep, my forearms are perpendicular to the ground.


yep, a wider drip and not bringing it up so high is needed for it to be a safer exercise.
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: dyslexic on September 25, 2009, 10:52:57 PM
Yep, just like a coffee pot...
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: Dreadlifter on September 26, 2009, 04:41:12 AM
I always do my rows flacid.

LMFAO!
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: Bossa on September 26, 2009, 05:52:37 AM
They do cause shoulder impingement...i do them at the end of my shoulder workout with a cable for high reps and have had no problems

just remember to be really erect for the whole set ;D
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: tbombz on September 26, 2009, 03:50:07 PM
i go up as high as i can, and the bar is kinda away from my body. and i do it with 185.

Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: Tombo on September 27, 2009, 10:54:42 PM
i just hate holding the bar there like that, it really fucks my lower back
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: Rimbaud on September 28, 2009, 04:18:11 AM
i just hate holding the bar there like that, it really fucks my lower back

Maybe your form is off & you're going too heavy?...just a thought.
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: Tombo on September 28, 2009, 11:08:07 PM
Maybe your form is off & you're going too heavy?...just a thought.

eh its pretty strict
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: Swedish Viking on September 29, 2009, 07:10:25 AM
I always do my rows flacid.

 best answer.
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: jpm101 on September 30, 2009, 10:06:42 AM
One of my favorite exercises. Problems can develop when the bar is raised too far out & away from the body, which puts undo strain on the shoulder joints. Keep the bar close, to almost touching, the body always (as Montague suggest).  The basic upright row has the grip around 8 inches apart and the pull to just between the upper chest and neck. Some guy's feel too much of a strain on the wrist with a straight bar, so an EZ bar might be better served.

The close cousin to the upright row is the hi-pull which has a much wider grip, which allows the bar to be raised to about lower pec height. Keep the bar close to the body, as in the upright row. Some guy's make the mistake of trying to pull the bar too high up, also putting undo stress on the shoulder joints. (Gironda used a version of the wide grip/high-pull fo ra direct delt exercise....the pull being as high as the mid chest level..if going any higher you may feel it in the shoulder joints..but he only advised moderate weight and a slow pull). Should not feel any great discomfort on the wrist with a wider grip. If so, than an Olympic style EZ bar may help also.

I used DB's, from time to time. One arm at a time and elbows out wide. Important to warm up the area before any serious weight is used. If going to do uprights, than only use an empty bar for 20 rep's, or more, light reps . Warmup with the actual exercise you plan to do. Some guy's do not. If, for example I am going to do squats I will do 50 to 100 rep Hindu squats for a complete warmup of the knees, hip/gluts and most of the leg structure. Primed for some heavy squatting after that. Good Luck.
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: tbombz on September 30, 2009, 10:30:24 AM
i think this thread jinxed me as i fucked up my shoulder yesterday doing these.  :-\
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: boonasty on September 30, 2009, 11:04:53 AM
I always do my rows flacid.

ha haaha!
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: chaos on September 30, 2009, 08:01:19 PM
i go up as high as i can, and the bar is kinda away from my body. and i do it with 185.


i think this thread jinxed me as i fucked up my shoulder yesterday doing these.  :-\
;)

I do them last on shoulder day to the middle/top of my chest. I also use 185.
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: haider on September 30, 2009, 08:07:43 PM
I always do my rows flacid.
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Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: mass 04 on September 30, 2009, 08:13:31 PM
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Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: haider on September 30, 2009, 08:16:53 PM
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Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: benchmstr on September 30, 2009, 09:25:59 PM
i always do them, i have never had any problems with them....personaly i think side laterals are way more dangerous for your shoulders than upright rows!!!

bench
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: OmahaPlaya on October 06, 2009, 10:19:07 PM
Never had a issue doing upright rows.  Always have my arms perpendicular to the ground.  They do wonders for my traps.
Title: Re: Erect Rows = Worthless?
Post by: _bruce_ on October 10, 2009, 01:48:39 AM
haha i took my grandmother to the mall and was on here while she shopped. I didn't want to tell her i was looking at oiled up muscle hunks in sparkle panties. She doesn't have that long left and that might have pushed her over the edge. ;D

 ;D ;D ;D