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Title: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Wiggs on September 25, 2009, 11:29:09 PM
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Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Wiggs on September 25, 2009, 11:30:20 PM
Jay wins ab and thighs and Kai wins everything else...
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: webcake on September 25, 2009, 11:30:43 PM
kai is (very slightly) worse than expected and jay is better than expected. That right there is enough to see jay win.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Wiggs on September 25, 2009, 11:31:39 PM
kai is (very slightly) worse than expected and jay is better than expected. That right there is enough to see jay win.

I actually agree with you...
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: tbombz on September 25, 2009, 11:31:42 PM
naw man, kai wins the ab and thigh, jay wins the rear lat spread. everything else is kai.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Ex Coelis on September 25, 2009, 11:33:38 PM
Kai was less sharp than I expected but he still wrecked everyone

he should have been in the last call-out next to Jay
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Matt C on September 25, 2009, 11:34:18 PM
I might have to agree with you on that one Wiggs...at least from these pictures.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 25, 2009, 11:35:10 PM
 ::)

(http://www.flexonline.com/09contests/09olympia/men/first_callout/images/_MG_6351.jpg)

Kai beats Jay in EVERYTHING !
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Swedish Viking on September 25, 2009, 11:46:39 PM
They're all off.  Jay is better than usual but off.  Kai is off.  Vic is never really any good.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Wiggs on September 25, 2009, 11:49:38 PM
They're all off.  Jay is better than usual but off.  Kai is off.  Vic is never really any good.

Dude what are you watching?  You have to turn on the computer screen to see the show... ;D
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 25, 2009, 11:49:52 PM
kai should honestly be top 2.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on September 25, 2009, 11:54:22 PM
Kai has syntholed biceps.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 25, 2009, 11:56:22 PM
Kai has syntholed biceps.

you have syntholized posts
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on September 25, 2009, 11:58:04 PM
you have syntholized posts

I know my synthols.  ;)
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 26, 2009, 12:01:26 AM
They're all off.  Jay is better than usual but off.  Kai is off.  Vic is never really any good.
Yes what has these fuckers been doing all year?
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: BayGBM on September 26, 2009, 12:03:11 AM
Jay wins ab and thighs and Kai wins everything else...

Are you blind?  Kai wins ab/thigh by a mile.  His lats and V taper are way better and his lines are just plain superior!
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 26, 2009, 12:05:26 AM
kai anything less than 2nd is an epic fail by the judges.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 26, 2009, 12:05:55 AM
That's racist  ::)
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Swedish Viking on September 26, 2009, 12:07:03 AM
Yes what has these fuckers been doing all year?

   I honestly don't know.  And I definitely don't know why Vic is even getting to mix it up at all with the top guys.  He should be in 10th place with those legs.  As far as I'm concerned, dry as a bone and having a whole body(as in, well developed calves included) should be the top two requirements.  They're all F-ing big.  No one should win without a bodypart though, that's totally rediculous that it is looked over like it is-so this knocks out like 5 of the top 10.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: D_1000 on September 26, 2009, 12:08:19 AM
Kai must win. End of story.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 26, 2009, 12:08:35 AM
  I honestly don't know.  And I definitely don't know why Vic is getting to mix it up at all with the top guys.  He should be in 10th place with those legs.  As far as I'm concerned, dry as a bone and having a whole body(as in, well developed calves included) should be the top two requirements.  They're all F-ing big.  No one should win without a bodypart though, that's totally rediculous that it is looked over like it is-so this knocks out like 5 of the top 10.
X2.3
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Ex Coelis on September 26, 2009, 12:08:42 AM
Vic will place surprisingly low

Kai will be better tomorrow

Darrem will still be a fat pile of shit
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: alnassak on September 26, 2009, 12:17:16 AM
Kai looks great, but not enough to beat an improved Jay Cutler!

I am disappointed with Phil, he is carrying lots of water that makes him looks kinda of soft..  :'(

Dexter looks Right on the Money! Really really great  :o , but unfortunately Jay has improved.  ;)

I think it will be so close between Jay Dexter for 1st & 2nd.   However, I would love to see jay winning
again.

Phil & Kai for 3rd & 4th

Branch for 5th for sure

Victor and Rockel for 6th and 7th !!  :-X
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: divcom on September 26, 2009, 12:21:43 AM
good stuff.

1. phil is maxed, go wheeler syndrome, can get tighter but that's it
2. jay 2001 form but lost upperbody size to get there
3. kai done jacked the whole lineup.  there is no way phil is ahead of him going into posing so game over.  politics now?  
4. i dont see any pics of dex, so i guess no one gives a shit
5. vic looks good but wheels arent there, so why he hanging around with top 6 guys.  guess freeman, dj, wolf and anthony didnt show up.  good for vic than.

for some reason they will have phil ahead of kai going into posing.  this thing will have an odd boxing scorecard kind of finish.

anyway...good stuff.  
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 26, 2009, 12:23:21 AM
Kai has most pleasing physique on stage (no homo) jay is blocky
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Ex Coelis on September 26, 2009, 12:25:44 AM
Melvin's glutes are softer than ever

out of the top 10
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Wiggs on September 26, 2009, 12:26:09 AM
No way in fuck Phil places ahead of Kai...Kai should be no lower than 2nd  but will probably be 3rd.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: divcom on September 26, 2009, 12:33:26 AM
No way in fuck Phil places ahead of Kai...Kai should be no lower than 2nd  but will probably be 3rd.

well...i've said in the O AMI will not allow kai, vic or wolfe (only dex and jay til he is ready) to place ahead of phil, still think so.  kai is like a short ronnie coleman, has odd shape but back is think and wide.  phil cant spread with him.  thick as the sh#t but still an odd guy.  

on a side phil is adding too much like wheeler did, cant put on size like that with his wide, starting to look odd shaped when relaxed.  poor man's flex wheeler.

anyway...to the boxing score cards tonight.  do the judges still use pencils...shawn?
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 26, 2009, 12:36:17 AM
well...i've said in the O AMI will not allow kai, vic or wolfe (only dex and jay til he is ready) to place ahead of phil, still think so.  kai is like a short ronnie coleman, has odd shape but back is think and wide.  phil cant spread with him.  thick as the sh#t but still an odd guy.  

on a side phil is adding too much like wheeler did, cant put on size like that with his wide, starting to look odd shaped when relaxed.  poor man's flex wheeler.

anyway...to the boxing score cards tonight.  do the judges still use pencils...shawn?
Nice point
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Ex Coelis on September 26, 2009, 12:45:08 AM
the last call-out was misleading

I think Dex was there as a courtesy to the reigning Mr. O

he should place no higher than 4th, in my opinion
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: kawaks on September 26, 2009, 12:47:17 AM
naw man, kai wins the ab and thigh, jay wins the rear lat spread. everything else is kai.

No waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

Jay "Jesus Christ" Cutler has bigger delts, better chest and back's are about equal. Kai has better legs.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Hulkster on September 26, 2009, 05:59:21 AM
Jay looks better than usual (which isn't saying much)

Kai does not look as good as he did at the Arnold.

its close

Kai has better lines though, that might turn the tide in his favor.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on September 26, 2009, 06:03:23 AM
Wiggs, Jay will win over Kai because:

- Kai has small trapz
- Kai has a semi-weak lower back
- Kai hasn't got Jay's structure (body proportions)
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on September 26, 2009, 06:03:47 AM
I agree Jay is way blocky.  But Kai is a fucking midget.  Kai is so fucking short when he does his rear lat spread he doesn't even have a lower back.  It's all lats.  Looks retarded from behind.  
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: kyomu on September 26, 2009, 06:08:37 AM
I am a huge Fan of Kai. And I am not a fan of Jay.

But, Hey, this time Jay beat him absolutely.
 
Have to admit it.

And Pics lie a lot. And Video dont
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: affeman on September 26, 2009, 06:09:43 AM
Not sure, Kai has no chest, his FLS and relaxed looks absolutely pathetic; He was also way sharper at the Arnolds.

Like someone said before, as Jay is way better than everyone expected, and Kai is weaker than everyone expected, that will give Jay the edge. No matter who is in fact better or not.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Hulkster on September 26, 2009, 06:10:24 AM
Quote
And Video dont

remind me to quote you next time your participating in the dorian ronnie threads hahahaha :P 8)
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Polska_Sensation on September 26, 2009, 06:11:13 AM
Cutler is just better then Kai,
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Flexb on September 26, 2009, 06:18:13 AM
the last call-out was misleading

I think Dex was there as a courtesy to the reigning Mr. O

he should place no higher than 4th, in my opinion

Wow, open your eyes. Dex is the biggest he's been and has nailed his condition. Nobody on that stage is put together as well. It's between him and Jay. Kai was off, Phil was off. They are battling for 3rd and Branch is right there with them.

Jay or Dex 1 & 2. Clearly the 2 best on stage at pre-judging.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Hedgehog on September 26, 2009, 06:20:11 AM
Jay wins ab and thighs and Kai wins everything else...

Kai pulls his thong up his ass crack.

Jay doesn't.

Game over.

Jay wins loses. :-\
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Parker on September 26, 2009, 06:30:17 AM
kai is (very slightly) worse than expected and jay is better than expected. That right there is enough to see jay win.
Just because Jay is better than expected and Kai is not does not constitute win for Jay. Jay must be absolute head and shoulders above the rest. And he is not. If he is beaten by others in most poses, yet he came at his all time best, then he gets the "improved" award. And his brb pose is wanting--his lower has a hole compared to his protege and Kai
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Hedgehog on September 26, 2009, 06:33:06 AM
Melvin's glutes are softer than ever

out of the top 10

Why you keep lookin' on other male asses?
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Archer77 on September 26, 2009, 07:47:10 AM
Kai looks good in certain poses but in others he looks like a stump.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Mr. Magoo on September 26, 2009, 07:58:14 AM
Jay looks good, if he can hold it together and not blow it tonight

but am i the only thinking the kai is owning all of them?
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 26, 2009, 08:33:28 AM
Jay looks good, if he can hold it together and not blow it tonight

but am i the only thinking the kai is owning all of them?
Nope I agree Jay is just blocky his structure isnt pleasing he cant help that though but hey depends on what judges agree on.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Rinc on September 26, 2009, 08:51:14 AM
Kai's shape is shit and judges' want shape.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: bigdumbbell on September 26, 2009, 08:55:06 AM
Are you blind?  Kai wins ab/thigh by a mile.  His lats and V taper are way better and his lines are just plain superior!
ditto and i like white meat   lol
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: DeketheCreep on September 26, 2009, 08:59:11 AM
Kai is a lock for 3rd,no way phil beats him.
I dont think the judges at this point consider Kai any where near Jay
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/_MG_5536.jpg)
my new fave Cutler Pic  :o
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Rinc on September 26, 2009, 09:01:06 AM
Kai is a lock for 3rd,no way phil beats him.
I dont think the judges at this point consider Kai any where near Jay
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/_MG_5536.jpg)
my new fave Cutler Pic  :o
Monster right there with unbelievable conditioning.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Dreadlifter on September 26, 2009, 09:03:44 AM
You can almost hear Jay saying to himself "why can't my other leg look like this. Maybe if i try to tuck my withered one behind the other, the judges won't notice it."
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: lax on September 26, 2009, 09:12:06 AM
You can almost hear Jay saying to himself "why can't my other leg look like this. Maybe if i try to tuck my withered one behind the other, the judges won't notice it."

No
But you can hear him counting 200K
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Rinc on September 26, 2009, 09:13:55 AM
2009 Mr. Olympia Jay Cutler
is what the judges will be calling out tonight.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Rinc on September 26, 2009, 09:38:08 AM
"Why Kai beats Jay" Wiggs because you have an overwhelming manlust for Kai Grapefruit Fucker Green. You have crossed over from trannys to complete gaydom, haha. Wierdo.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: divcom on September 26, 2009, 09:44:53 AM
"Why Kai beats Jay" Wiggs because you have an overwhelming manlust for Kai Grapefruit Fucker Green. You have crossed over from trannys to complete gaydom, haha. Wierdo.

overkill bitch

bay is g@y

i got the dime piece tranny (no homo)

stop giving figgs credit.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: shootfighter1 on September 26, 2009, 09:46:52 AM
Dexter and Jay are both better than Kai in pre-judging.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Rinc on September 26, 2009, 09:47:56 AM
Dexter and Jay are both better than Kai in pre-judging.
Realllllllllllly
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 26, 2009, 09:49:36 AM
Kai will never win the Mr Olympia because he had sex with a grapefruit.  It doesn't matter how good he shows up, the judges would never allow him to have it simply because it would be an embarrassment to the title.  I'm surprised that he actually won the Arnold Classic but Olympia he will not be....period. 
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Ex Coelis on September 26, 2009, 09:55:16 AM
Kai will never win the Mr Olympia because he had sex with a grapefruit.  It doesn't matter how good he shows up, the judges would never allow him to have it simply because it would be an embarrassment to the title.  I'm surprised that he actually won the Arnold Classic but Olympia he will not be....period.  

an embarrasment to the title?

don't put "Mr. Olympia" on the same level as Pope or Nobel Prize Winner

if Kai has the best physique, he should win
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: shootfighter1 on September 26, 2009, 10:00:30 AM
Actually, this Olympia isn't quite as confusing to judge as I thought.  I think 1st and 2nd are clearly between Jay and Dexter.  Kai is a solid 3rd.  Phil probably 4th.
Dexter is not getting the credit he deserves.  He nailed it again and looks at least as massive as he was last yr.  Nothing is outstanding but he's put together incredibly well.

Branch looks amazing should sneak in 5th.
Not sure where they will place Victor...great shape but off, probably 6th.
Rhul still looks dominating from the front...top 10.
Kai could be a little sharper, he has a short torso but is certainly one of the best up there.
Wolf is bigger but not good enough condition...somewhere top 10.
Rockel looks great, certainly deserves to break into the top 10.
Freeman top 10.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 26, 2009, 10:03:00 AM
If they care about working in the sex industry, it should be in the regs.  If not, that isn't right.

I got a date with a fine, dirty talking veggie sub tonight myself (I like my bitches lean), so...  


It isn't right but that's just the way it is.  Bodybuilding is not only about how well you do onstage but also how you act offstage.  Kai should be thankful that he at least won the Arnold but he won't win the Olympia.  

Lets say he won the Olympia.  The Mr Olympia always makes an appearance on the Tonight Show or other talk show.  The minute that Kai is on TV, all those muscle worship videos will come to light and the grapefruit will be the finishing blow.  News stations would run wild and the IFBB would be publicly disgraced.  

So Kai won't have a Sandow in his future....sorry but I'm just keeping it real and telling it like it is
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: shootfighter1 on September 26, 2009, 10:10:51 AM
Phil is a bit soft in the legs in pre-judging (I'm watching the replay now).
Want to see Phil next to Branch...totally different physiques but not sure who wins.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: shootfighter1 on September 26, 2009, 10:13:14 AM
Great to see Rockel get a 2nd callout, totally deserves it.  He could be 7th or 8th.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: wes on September 26, 2009, 10:15:41 AM
Kai is far superior to Cutler........anyone that disagrees is just plain flat out wrong!!  :)
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Rinc on September 26, 2009, 10:16:42 AM
Kai is far superior to Cutler........anyone that disagrees is just plain flat out wrong!!  :)
I guess you know better then the judges' "Wes."
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: YoungBlood on September 26, 2009, 10:17:39 AM

It isn't right but that's just the way it is.  Bodybuilding is not only about how well you do onstage but also how you act offstage.  Kai should be thankful that he at least won the Arnold but he won't win the Olympia.  

Lets say he won the Olympia.  The Mr Olympia always makes an appearance on the Tonight Show or other talk show.  The minute that Kai is on TV, all those muscle worship videos will come to light and the grapefruit will be the finishing blow.  News stations would run wild and the IFBB would be publicly disgraced.  

So Kai won't have a Sandow in his future....sorry but I'm just keeping it real and telling it like it is

For once I actually agree with you...Don't EVER let this happen again!!!
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: divcom on September 26, 2009, 10:23:44 AM

It isn't right but that's just the way it is.  Bodybuilding is not only about how well you do onstage but also how you act offstage.  Kai should be thankful that he at least won the Arnold but he won't win the Olympia.  

Lets say he won the Olympia.  The Mr Olympia always makes an appearance on the Tonight Show or other talk show.  The minute that Kai is on TV, all those muscle worship videos will come to light and the grapefruit will be the finishing blow.  News stations would run wild and the IFBB would be publicly disgraced.  

So Kai won't have a Sandow in his future....sorry but I'm just keeping it real and telling it like it is

makes no sense.  it would be a bigger hit to arnold as gov if his guy is shown with a grapefruit...esp when he is/was assigned to tell america to keep fit.  people dont give a shit about the O...just the cult.  that's it.

the world has very little clue who the weiders are and ami is just a bunch of letters.  phil is better long shot for their mags and pushing his golden boy story but he is still a poor man's flex wheeler and can be had by vic or kai. 
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: shootfighter1 on September 26, 2009, 10:27:45 AM
Nice to see Rockel right next to Hide...there is no question that Rockel is better.
Silvio is sliced as usual but his gut protrudes between almost every pose, also behind Rockel and it is a travisty if the judges see it another way.  Silvio is not well balanced top to bottom and quite narrow.  I'd have him 8th or 9th.  Here's 6th-9th for me.  Not sure about 10th yet...James, Rhul, Hide.

Rockel (or Freeman)
Freeman (or Rockel)
Melvin
Silvio
 
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 26, 2009, 10:30:03 AM
makes no sense.  it would be a bigger hit to arnold as gov if his guy is shown with a grapefruit...esp when he is/was assigned to tell america to keep fit.  people dont give a shit about the O...just the cult.  that's it.


The Arnold Classic is a major title but it isn't the FLAGSHIP title like the Mr Olympia.  The Mr. Olympia is the premier title...the best of the best.  You have to QUALIFY to go to the Olympia, whereas you have to be INVITED to enter the Arnold Classic.


Sorry but the powers that be are not going to risk the bodybuilding industry on crowning someone that has disgraced himself in a manner that he has.  Politics is always a factor in any bodybuilding show or athletic event for that matter.  Even the Heisman trophy is based on politics.   
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Mars on September 26, 2009, 10:31:32 AM
but olympia is more amateuristic than the arnold classic.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Azure on September 26, 2009, 11:18:00 AM
I can't see any of these people on any mainstream shows, but the grapefruit thing was downright embarrassing. 
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Mr. Magoo on September 26, 2009, 11:46:38 AM
From pics and video last night

1. Kai
2. Jay
3. Dex
4. Branch
5. Phil
6. Vic

1-2 would be very close call, and 4-5 would be very close call
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: G o a t b o y on September 26, 2009, 12:02:24 PM
Jay is Weider/AMI, White, and very much improved.

Kai is MD, Black, not as good as expected...  oh... and he fucks grapefruits.


Is there really any doubt how this one is gonna go?  Seriously?

Hell, I'd be surprised if they place Kai ahead of Dexter or Phil.
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Royalty on September 26, 2009, 12:09:19 PM

It isn't right but that's just the way it is.  Bodybuilding is not only about how well you do onstage but also how you act offstage.  Kai should be thankful that he at least won the Arnold but he won't win the Olympia.  

Lets say he won the Olympia.  The Mr Olympia always makes an appearance on the Tonight Show or other talk show.  The minute that Kai is on TV, all those muscle worship videos will come to light and the grapefruit will be the finishing blow.  News stations would run wild and the IFBB would be publicly disgraced.  

So Kai won't have a Sandow in his future....sorry but I'm just keeping it real and telling it like it is

good post Vince


From what I've seen...jay has the title reguardless...he is in shape
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: Per Se on September 26, 2009, 12:22:47 PM
Are you blind?  Kai wins ab/thigh by a mile.  His lats and V taper are way better and his lines are just plain superior!

X2
Title: Re: Why Kai beats Jay...
Post by: divcom on September 26, 2009, 12:26:53 PM
From pics and video last night

1. Kai
2. Jay
3. Dex
4. Branch
5. Phil
6. Vic

1-2 would be very close call, and 4-5 would be very close call

mr magoo...here is something to open them eyess:

(http://img4.realsimple.com/images/0901/toothpicks_300.jpg)

bad rankings and wrong thread.