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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: GetItOnNY on September 28, 2009, 10:32:46 AM
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Viotech the company that Shawn Ray was running is now bankrupt.I guess, having him run the company, plus selling Goat Whey didnt quite cut it.Now Genr8 is using him as there front man.Will Sahwn Ray run this company into the ground aswell.Plus GGenr8 sucks, it used to be Waxey Maze from Potato Rice and Corn, now its from Barley.You might aswell drink beer.Why would you have Shawn Ray run your company? He isnt a buissness man, he is a retired bodybuilder.Why not hire Bill Philips, the marketing genius????
What also pisses me off is MD fired Dave Palumbo, and John Romano for running Species sports nutrition.Why doesnt he fire Shawn Ray, for Running Viotech, and now Genr8? Why doesnt he fire Flex Wheeler for being involved with All American EFX.Flex and Shawn are doing the same shit Dave and John are doing, and they arent getting fired.
Steve Blechman is nothing but a back stabbing twink and a closet homo.Dave and John did alot for him and he screwed them over
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Viotech the company that Shawn Ray was running is now bankrupt.I guess, having him run the company, plus selling Goat Whey didnt quite cut it.Now Genr8 is using him as there front man.Will Sahwn Ray run this company into the ground aswell.Plus GGenr8 sucks, it used to be Waxey Maze from Potato Rice and Corn, now its from Barley.You might aswell drink beer.Why would you have Shawn Ray run your company? He isnt a buissness man, he is a retired bodybuilder.Why not hire Bill Philips, the marketing genius????
What also pisses me off is MD fired Dave Palumbo, and John Romano for running Species sports nutrition.Why doesnt he fire Shawn Ray, for Running Viotech, and now Genr8? Why doesnt he fire Flex Wheeler for being involved with All American EFX.Flex and Shawn are doing the same shit Dave and John are doing, and they arent getting fired.
Steve Blechman is nothing but a back stabbing twink and a closet homo.Dave and John did alot for him and he screwed them over
LOL dude, you have balls of steel! You're a known guy running a supp company, writing stuff like this on the forums! You're brave, I'll give you that.
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240, I would be hated for who I am then loved for who I am not.
I am just letting people known what going on the industry,240 Did you know Viotech went under?
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LOL dude, you have balls of steel! You're a known guy running a supp company, writing stuff like this on the forums! You're brave, I'll give you that.
sounds more like a lover's quarrel...
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sounds more like a lover's quarrel...
yeah obviously someone was not happy having to be the bottom all the time
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Viotech the company that Shawn Ray was running is now bankrupt.I guess, having him run the company, plus selling Goat Whey didnt quite cut it.Now Genr8 is using him as there front man.Will Sahwn Ray run this company into the ground aswell.Plus GGenr8 sucks, it used to be Waxey Maze from Potato Rice and Corn, now its from Barley.You might aswell drink beer.Why would you have Shawn Ray run your company? He isnt a buissness man, he is a retired bodybuilder.Why not hire Bill Philips, the marketing genius????
What also pisses me off is MD fired Dave Palumbo, and John Romano for running Species sports nutrition.Why doesnt he fire Shawn Ray, for Running Viotech, and now Genr8? Why doesnt he fire Flex Wheeler for being involved with All American EFX.Flex and Shawn are doing the same shit Dave and John are doing, and they arent getting fired.
Steve Blechman is nothing but a back stabbing twink and a closet homo.Dave and John did alot for him and he screwed them over
I'm sorry, but you are an idiot... Gener8 is actual Vitargo, and is the only real Vitargo on the market. Anthony Allmada, (The same guy responsible for bringing creatine to the American market via EAS Posphagen), owns the patent to Vitargo. And it has ALWAYS been from barley. Vitargo and Waxy Maize are not the same thing...and the MANY studies showing the effectiveness of vitargo have been done with actual Vitargo...not with Waxy Maize....
I don't know about Shawn Ray being good material for a company rep... but to say that Genr8 is a bad product..you are just talking out of your ass.
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240, I would be hated for who I am then loved for who I am not.
I am just letting people known what going on the industry,240 Did you know Viotech went under?
I did not know the company went under.
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The new Vitargo is not the same as the old formula.This I know.Art Atwood, who is a good friend of mine ,had the exclusive rights to Vitargo in the USA.He even said the new stuff is crap.Thats why he siwtched to Karbolyn.I am in the bodybuilding World, and trust me, not one pro bodybuilder I know will take the new Vitargo.They all switched, to V-Maxx and Karbolyn.At the Olympia Expo, I had given atleast 12 bodybuilders, and even Frank Mir some of our Waxey Maze.Art Atwood, told me he gave out 24 bottles to some well known pro bodybuilders, even our current Mr Olympia.So Topskin dont tell me I am an idiot, the new Genr8 sucks its garbage!!!!!
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LOL dude, you have balls of steel! You're a known guy running a supp company, writing stuff like this on the forums! You're brave, I'll give you that.
I'm still waiting for the protein analysis he promised. Me thinks his balls shrank.
Plus GGenr8 sucks, it used to be Waxey Maze from Potato Rice and Corn, now its from Barley.You might aswell drink beer.
That's ridiculous. There's no other "waxy" carb that can prove it does what it claims.
The new Vitargo is not the same as the old formula.This I know.Art Atwood, who is a good friend of mine ,had the exclusive rights to Vitargo in the USA.He even said the new stuff is crap.Thats why he siwtched to Karbolyn.I am in the bodybuilding World, and trust me, not one pro bodybuilder I know will take the new Vitargo.They all switched, to V-Maxx and Karbolyn.At the Olympia Expo, I had given atleast 12 bodybuilders, and even Frank Mir some of our Waxey Maze.Art Atwood, told me he gave out 24 bottles to some well known pro bodybuilders, even our current Mr Olympia.So Topskin dont tell me I am an idiot, the new Genr8 sucks its garbage!!!!!
Look at the fucking patent. It's not the source of the carb that's patented.
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What also pisses me off is MD fired Dave Palumbo, and John Romano for running Species sports nutrition.Why doesnt he fire Shawn Ray, for Running Viotech, and now Genr8? Why doesnt he fire Flex Wheeler for being involved with All American EFX.Flex and Shawn are doing the same shit Dave and John are doing, and they arent getting fired.
Steve Blechman is nothing but a back stabbing twink and a closet homo.Dave and John did alot for him and he screwed them over
I think the Palumbo/Romano firing had much more to do with stuff we didn't see. Apparently Palumbo and/or Romano hadn't been in their office for a number of months, and it was told to them they had to at least appear but they didn't. Small, banal shit like this can add up.
Add all the other stuff up, with the smaller stuff, and Blechman could have just decided he'd had enough and no longer liked the direction Palumbo & Co. were taking MD....
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Viotech the company that Shawn Ray was running is now bankrupt.I guess, having him run the company, plus selling Goat Whey didnt quite cut it.Now Genr8 is using him as there front man.Will Sahwn Ray run this company into the ground aswell.Plus GGenr8 sucks, it used to be Waxey Maze from Potato Rice and Corn, now its from Barley.You might aswell drink beer.Why would you have Shawn Ray run your company? He isnt a buissness man, he is a retired bodybuilder.Why not hire Bill Philips, the marketing genius????
Phillips hired marketing guru Dan Kennedy to do his marketing...Kennedy is the genius...you should know this, as you say you own a supp co.
What also pisses me off is MD fired Dave Palumbo, and John Romano for running Species sports nutrition.Why doesnt he fire Shawn Ray, for Running Viotech, and now Genr8? Why doesnt he fire Flex Wheeler for being involved with All American EFX.Flex and Shawn are doing the same shit Dave and John are doing, and they arent getting fired.
Steve Blechman is nothing but a back stabbing twink and a closet homo.Dave and John did alot for him and he screwed them over
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Van, When Vitargo first hit the bodybuilding seen thanks to Milos, it was the best carbohydrate ever created for bodybuilders, and endurance athletes.Since then they changed the formula, to cut costs, and its not the same.The good news ,is I ran into one of the original chemists, who helped develope Vitargo, and he left the company to start his own for of Waxey Maze.He has the old formula, and is making it now.I got some of it, and this stuff is amazing.It gives you pumps like crazy, no bloating no cramping, no water retention, nothing!!!.
If Waxey Maze Starch is real, there is nothing better for endurance, insulin loading,to trasport another supplement or to drink during excercise.
Its really sad they had to change the formula.
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Lax Dan Kennedy is good, but most people dont know who he is.Bill Philips is alos a marketing genious, and so is his brother Shawn.
There are atleast 2 dozen people who are alot better at running a company then Shawn Ray.
Shawn Ray ,was a awesome bodybuilder, but I wouldnt have him run my company, no way.
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Van, When Vitargo first hit the bodybuilding seen thanks to Milos, it was the best carbohydrate ever created for bodybuilders, and endurance athletes.Since then they changed the formula, to cut costs, and its not the same.The good news ,is I ran into one of the original chemists, who helped develope Vitargo, and he left the company to start his own for of Waxey Maze.He has the old formula, and is making it now.I got some of it, and this stuff is amazing.It gives you pumps like crazy, no bloating no cramping, no water retention, nothing!!!.
If Waxey Maze Starch is real, there is nothing better for endurance, insulin loading,to trasport another supplement or to drink during excercise.
Its really sad they had to change the formula.
The BBing supplement industry thrives off naive people like you.
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The good news ,is I ran into one of the original chemists, who helped develope Vitargo, and he left the company to start his own for of Waxey Maze.He has the old formula, and is making it now.I got some of it, and this stuff is amazing.It gives you pumps like crazy, no bloating no cramping, no water retention, nothing!!!.
Stay tuned for GetItOnNY's very own product....!!!!!
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Viotech the company that Shawn Ray was running is now bankrupt.I guess, having him run the company, plus selling Goat Whey didnt quite cut it.Now Genr8 is using him as there front man.Will Sahwn Ray run this company into the ground aswell.Plus GGenr8 sucks, it used to be Waxey Maze from Potato Rice and Corn, now its from Barley.You might aswell drink beer.Why would you have Shawn Ray run your company? He isnt a buissness man, he is a retired bodybuilder.Why not hire Bill Philips, the marketing genius????
What also pisses me off is MD fired Dave Palumbo, and John Romano for running Species sports nutrition.Why doesnt he fire Shawn Ray, for Running Viotech, and now Genr8? Why doesnt he fire Flex Wheeler for being involved with All American EFX.Flex and Shawn are doing the same shit Dave and John are doing, and they arent getting fired.
Steve Blechman is nothing but a back stabbing twink and a closet homo.Dave and John did alot for him and he screwed them over
Shawn Ray was only the company spokeman and athlete rep for the company and while he did advise them on ways of promoting the business, ultimately its up to the company and its board of directors. Shawn Ray did his job in allowing his image to be used for product promotion and they did a lot of business because of him that they didn't get previously. This isn't the first time they fell on their faces.
The main reason they are bankrupt is because the products simply were crap. I never heard anything good about them and the Goat Whey Protein was a bad idea as Garden of Life has 95% of the overall market. There was also a lot of mis-managment in the company from not updating the site to not fulfilling promises such as the Hottest Booty Contest.
Vyotech will be bought out by someone, the name will be changed, and life will go on. But don't blame Shawn over something he didn't have control over
BTW, don't think I'm being friends with Vyotech as they royally screwed me over back in 2006. I had a wholesale account and they sent over some really old ass stock that I simply wasn't going to sell to customer. Heck I wrote about it in the newsletter but i never disclosed the details as to why I stopped selling their products after less than a month until now. Waste of money
http://caliberfitness.com/newsletter/?s=Vyo
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Shawn Ray was only the company spokeman and athlete rep for the company and while he did advise them on ways of promoting the business, ultimately its up to the company and its board of directors. Shawn Ray did his job in allowing his image to be used for product promotion and they did a lot of business because of him that they didn't get previously. This isn't the first time they fell on their faces.
The main reason they are bankrupt is because the products simply were crap. I never heard anything good about them and the Goat Whey Protein was a bad idea as Garden of Life has 95% of the overall market. There was also a lot of mis-managment in the company from not updating the site to not fulfilling promises such as the Hottest Booty Contest.
Vyotech will be bought out by someone, the name will be changed, and life will go on. But don't blame Shawn over something he didn't have control over
Goodrum how is your line of "good solid products" doing?
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The good news ,is I ran into one of the original chemists, who helped develope Vitargo, and he left the company to start his own for of Waxey Maze.He has the old formula, and is making it now.
LOL, what bullshit. What's his name? Do you realize it's patented?
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Lax Dan Kennedy is good, but most people dont know who he is.Bill Philips is alos a marketing genious, and so is his brother Shawn.
There are atleast 2 dozen people who are alot better at running a company then Shawn Ray.
Shawn Ray ,was a awesome bodybuilder, but I wouldnt have him run my company, no way.
Kennedy doesn't want anyone to know who he is. He doesn't care. If you ever met him you'd see why. He told me Phillips used to call him at 3 a.m. in the morning and wake him up with some new idea. He'd do this all the time.
Kennedy was the one who created that campaign where the guy morphs from fat to lean in several stages.
Yes....most don't have a clue that EVERYTHING IS MARKETING...specially the likes of ray
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Goodrum how is your line of "good solid products" doing?
I heasr he has a patented formulatory process that involves mixing the ingredients in his toilet
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I heasr he has a patented formulatory process that involves mixing the ingredients in his toilet
;D ;D ;D
im sure some the ingredients come from the toilet to
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GetitonNY knows that Shawn Ray was only a spokesperson. He isn't THAT dumb. He is a shit talker about other companies in the industry and doesn't let facts get in the way. How professional. He thinks he's a shining light in the supplement industry.
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;D ;D ;D
im sure some the inredients come from the toilet to
:D
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GetitonNY knows that Shawn Ray was only a spokesperson. He isn't THAT dumb. He is a shit talker about other companies in the industry and doesn't let facts get in the way. How professional. He thinks he's a shining light in the supplement industry.
Naturally, with money comes power.
A huge supp company with huge money hears of this fellow's slander....what stops them from having this guys legs broken?
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Anthony Allmada owns the patent to Vitargo. This is what you see in Genr8. Genr8 = Vitargo, and is the only product on the market that can claim this. It is also the only designer carbohydrate product that actualy has studies backing its claims. Art Artwood used to be a rep for Vitargo before the patent was sold to Allmada...he no longer wished to be associated with the company as they were working out an exclusive arrangement with GNC.
Getitonny is talking out of his ass like usual. Thankfully we have installed bullshit dectors like Van-B into the Getbig system to ensure that this nonsesne does not get out of hand. :D
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Goodrum how is your line of "good solid products" doing?
I'm no longer a Genesis Nutrition distributor and I'm selling off the remaining product and I'll be discontinuing most of the Vitamin Power Line except a few products. I'm now working with Vitabase & Native Remedies and I'm building a new site right now to support it at www.gxfitnesscenter.com.
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The new Vitargo is not the same as the old formula.This I know.Art Atwood, who is a good friend of mine ,had the exclusive rights to Vitargo in the USA.He even said the new stuff is crap.Thats why he siwtched to Karbolyn.I am in the bodybuilding World, and trust me, not one pro bodybuilder I know will take the new Vitargo.They all switched, to V-Maxx and Karbolyn.At the Olympia Expo, I had given atleast 12 bodybuilders, and even Frank Mir some of our Waxey Maze.Art Atwood, told me he gave out 24 bottles to some well known pro bodybuilders, even our current Mr Olympia.So Topskin dont tell me I am an idiot, the new Genr8 sucks its garbage!!!!!
First you come bashing Shawn Ray as a spokeman and the company Genr8, then all of a sudden you happened to bump into a friend and now you're going to lauch a rival product.
Just shut the hell up pal because I've lost any amount of respect I had for you
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Topskin, Anthony Allmada, can have Vitargo, because its garbage!!!! I will say it to his face your face, and everyone elses.Art was glad to get away from the Swedes.There product wasnt consistant, everytime they blended it, that had problems.Patrick Arnold had the orginal rights to Vitargo, but he let it go, because of the problems he had with them and the product.The original Vitargo was an awesome product, not its junk, you might aswell drink maltodextrin.Talk to any pro bodybuilder, they will tell you, its not the same.Every pro bodybuilder I know uses Art Atwoods Karbolyn, or comes to me.Arts new Karbolyn is 10 times better then the Vitargo the Swedes are making now.Why do you think Genr8 failed when Anothny Amato gave GNC exclusive rights to the product for 2 years, and it didnt sell.It sat on the sheleves, nobody wanted it.I deal with several hundred GNC stores, and not one of them reodered the GENR8.They ordered it once, and they said nobody wanted to buy it.Now Anthony got Shawn Ray involved hoping to save his already sinking ship,lol.
Thats like bringing one life raft to save everyone on the Titanic, it wont do any good.If The Swedes were smart they would go back to there orginal formula.All there research was done on the old formula not the new Barley crap.Genr8 is no better then the cornstarch Dymatise, and IDS is selling, lol.
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Where is the patent. What is the serial number. For the life of me I can't find any patent under Vitagro. I agree that Sean didn't bankrupt the company. If those morons at that company listened to him and put money behind him and his show they basically deserved to file bankruptcy. We'll see if the company Sean s with now follows suit or learns from the past.
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Vince I been selling Waxey Maze for over 2 years.I sell most of my Waxey Maze in Europe.I dont really want the American market.I would rather people buy Karbolyn from Art Atwood.He is a great guy with a great product.I dont push Waxey because, I dont want to compete with Art.
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I might buy into what you say if you didn't write like a retarded chimp. Honestly, you don't have much business sense if you are the head of a supplement company and you posting inflammatory and insulting messages about your competitors on board read by 99% of the industry. Granted, your writing makes you less than credible, anyway.
Not trying to be a dick here....just saying.
Viotech the company that Shawn Ray was running is now bankrupt.I guess, having him run the company, plus selling Goat Whey didnt quite cut it.Now Genr8 is using him as there front man.Will Sahwn Ray run this company into the ground aswell.Plus GGenr8 sucks, it used to be Waxey Maze from Potato Rice and Corn, now its from Barley.You might aswell drink beer.Why would you have Shawn Ray run your company? He isnt a buissness man, he is a retired bodybuilder.Why not hire Bill Philips, the marketing genius????
What also pisses me off is MD fired Dave Palumbo, and John Romano for running Species sports nutrition.Why doesnt he fire Shawn Ray, for Running Viotech, and now Genr8? Why doesnt he fire Flex Wheeler for being involved with All American EFX.Flex and Shawn are doing the same shit Dave and John are doing, and they arent getting fired.
Steve Blechman is nothing but a back stabbing twink and a closet homo.Dave and John did alot for him and he screwed them over
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I'm no longer a Genesis Nutrition distributor and I'm selling off the remaining product and I'll be discontinuing most of the Vitamin Power Line except a few products. I'm now working with Vitabase & Native Remedies and I'm building a new site right now to support it at www.gxfitnesscenter.com.
Vince
I am sorry to say that that site really doesn't look like one that would engender enough trust to make a purchase from it
looks cheesy
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Vince
I am sorry to say that that site really doesn't look like one that would engender enough trust to make a purchase from it
looks cheesy
That's his gimmick. He acts stupid, has shitty websites sell snake oil so people will feel sorry for him and buy stuff because they think they are helping the needy. It is a great gimmick he has going. The only problem is he isn't acting.
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Vince
I am sorry to say that that site really doesn't look like one that would engender enough trust to make a purchase from it
looks cheesy
Its not even finished yet as theres is no products in it. Right now its the default Cubecart Template. I have to finish the catagories, upload my custom patches to the site, set up the USPS and UPS servers on it to calculate shipping for customers, add the products, and then upload the template skin which is what gives it a look.
There's a lot of work that goes into building an ecommerce store from scratch and it'll take a week before its completed and officially launched.
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love all this bitching about carbo supps.
it strikes me that pro's wouldnt know what supp is better than another as there's no way to effectively isolate any one product they have in their system.
on top of that- you might as well market this stuff to pro BB's and place that on the label as if they are claiming benefits, then that isnt the same as being able to benefit the average non drug user- which would be your majority market.
i see supps come out every year under different names and have tried a bunch but dont dance that dance any more. they are all a waste of money. What really makes me laugh is that under actual real double blind studies the difference between one and another is so marginal that it doesnt warrant the differences in pricing.
this is why this entire thread (premise and topic) makes me laugh.
respect to those who dont buy this crap and can see through the "Maise" of marketing....its a shame that this stuff fools most.
all these powders and supps are, is a convenient way to take in calories. Simple as that..and some may argue that its not convenient either.
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That's his gimmick. He acts stupid, has shitty websites sell snake oil so people will feel sorry for him and buy stuff because they think they are helping the needy. It is a great gimmick he has going. The only problem is he isn't acting.
So Keith, how's that gym in Las Vegas going??? You know the one that was never built yet you went ahead and collected money for gym memberships???
Instead of worrying about me or stuffing your face with food, why don't you spend some time taking care of those people angry at you.
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eat a slice or two of wonder bread combined with 1 egg white (scale to your needs)...same effect but cheaper than any of the waxy maize post-workout products...
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lol getny you a fucking idiot. you realise your talking about different types of carbohydrate powders, right?
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If you talk about the supps enough people might believe they make a difference.
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Viotech the company that Shawn Ray was running is now bankrupt.I guess, having him run the company, plus selling Goat Whey didnt quite cut it.Now Genr8 is using him as there front man.Will Sahwn Ray run this company into the ground aswell.Plus GGenr8 sucks, it used to be Waxey Maze from Potato Rice and Corn, now its from Barley.You might aswell drink beer.Why would you have Shawn Ray run your company? He isnt a buissness man, he is a retired bodybuilder.Why not hire Bill Philips, the marketing genius????
What also pisses me off is MD fired Dave Palumbo, and John Romano for running Species sports nutrition.Why doesnt he fire Shawn Ray, for Running Viotech, and now Genr8? Why doesnt he fire Flex Wheeler for being involved with All American EFX.Flex and Shawn are doing the same shit Dave and John are doing, and they arent getting fired.
Steve Blechman is nothing but a back stabbing twink and a closet homo.Dave and John did alot for him and he screwed them over
u sound like a bitch too
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Topskin, Anthony Allmada, can have Vitargo, because its garbage!!!! I will say it to his face your face, and everyone elses.Art was glad to get away from the Swedes.There product wasnt consistant, everytime they blended it, that had problems.Patrick Arnold had the orginal rights to Vitargo, but he let it go, because of the problems he had with them and the product.The original Vitargo was an awesome product, not its junk, you might aswell drink maltodextrin.Talk to any pro bodybuilder, they will tell you, its not the same.Every pro bodybuilder I know uses Art Atwoods Karbolyn, or comes to me.Arts new Karbolyn is 10 times better then the Vitargo the Swedes are making now.Why do you think Genr8 failed when Anothny Amato gave GNC exclusive rights to the product for 2 years, and it didnt sell.It sat on the sheleves, nobody wanted it.I deal with several hundred GNC stores, and not one of them reodered the GENR8.They ordered it once, and they said nobody wanted to buy it.Now Anthony got Shawn Ray involved hoping to save his already sinking ship,lol.
Thats like bringing one life raft to save everyone on the Titanic, it wont do any good.If The Swedes were smart they would go back to there orginal formula.All there research was done on the old formula not the new Barley crap.Genr8 is no better then the cornstarch Dymatise, and IDS is selling, lol.
So much bullshit. Having problems with blending the stuff or whatever doesn't mean it doesn't work as advertised. Ask Patrick Arnold if the reason he dropped it was because the research is fake. You have consumers deciding a products efficacy on it's texture, taste, etc. But that doesn't have anything to do with it. There is no research on these other carbs. The crap you're selling may taste good but that's about it as far as proving it's superior.
And there's nothing wrong with maltodextrin. You know what top pro cyclists use in their drinks? Maltodextrin and sucrose! Cyclists are on the cutting edge of supplementation. Lots of money dumped into research.
Vince I been selling Waxey Maze for over 2 years.I sell most of my Waxey Maze in Europe.I dont really want the American market.I would rather people buy Karbolyn from Art Atwood.He is a great guy with a great product.I dont push Waxey because, I dont want to compete with Art.
Isn't Art Atwood a rat? I'm pretty sure I've seen lots of accusations of him being an informant.
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Vince I been selling Waxey Maze for over 2 years.I sell most of my Waxey Maze in Europe.I dont really want the American market.I would rather people buy Karbolyn from Art Atwood.He is a great guy with a great product.I dont push Waxey because, I dont want to compete with Art.
Hi just a question from the ignorant European consumer to the expert:
is the following the real Vitargo:
http://79.125.16.194/languages/eng/Scitec_vitargo.php
Thanks a lot
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So Keith, how's that gym in Las Vegas going??? You know the one that was never built yet you went ahead and collected money for gym memberships???
Instead of worrying about me or stuffing your face with food, why don't you spend some time taking care of those people angry at you.
Hey "boy" you really shouldn't say shit you have no idea about. Here is the deal... I will leave here forever and tell everyone you are the best if you can show just one membership I sold. Just one. That is all. Just one membership. Honestly you pretend like you know something when you have no idea what you are talking about. And it's not like you can look any dumber than you really are it just puts solidifies everything people say about you. And you wonder why no one likes you and you have no future. I give you credit though for not killing yourself yet. I am sure it is coming but you have hung in there this long. But till then keep coming on here and making a fool out of yourself. It is the only thing you are good at.
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Bitchin' thread.
Went from Wax shit to Gym Memberships.
Great lesson in English grammar and vicious vocabulary too.
Thanks!!!
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Van,Art Atwood, is not a rat, and never will be.Art has done alot of favors for alot of people.
Art, is legit, thats why he didnt do time.He has a legitimate, buissness, and legitmate stores.
Art Atwood, is a good guy he is honest, and has a good reputation.
His Karbolyn product is probably one of the best if not the best Waxy Maze on the market.The current man that just won the Mr Olympia used it for his contest prep.
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Hey "boy" you really shouldn't say shit you have no idea about. Here is the deal... I will leave here forever and tell everyone you are the best if you can show just one membership I sold. Just one. That is all. Just one membership. Honestly you pretend like you know something when you have no idea what you are talking about. And it's not like you can look any dumber than you really are it just puts solidifies everything people say about you. And you wonder why no one likes you and you have no future. I give you credit though for not killing yourself yet. I am sure it is coming but you have hung in there this long. But till then keep coming on here and making a fool out of yourself. It is the only thing you are good at.
So I'm suppose to have all of your files of the memberships you sold for that gym...... ::)
Come on Keith, are you trying to tell me that you didn't pre sell any gym memberships at the Olympia booth that you set up in 07 and 08 saying that if they signed up early that you would give him a huge discount???
An Olympia booth rental is about 1500-4000 dollars at best so I'd seriously doubt that you would fork over all that money no. Sorry Keith, but I already know that you're lying and eventually its going to catch up to you. You've been putting off all of these people for over 2 years with these bullshit excuses as to why this gym hasn't opened yet.
I think you did it because you lost all that money in that failed PDI venture. You can't sell T-Shirts unless you actually have people at the events.
You lose once again Keith but thanks for playing
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So much bullshit. Having problems with blending the stuff or whatever doesn't mean it doesn't work as advertised. Ask Patrick Arnold if the reason he dropped it was because the research is fake. You have consumers deciding a products efficacy on it's texture, taste, etc. But that doesn't have anything to do with it. There is no research on these other carbs. The crap you're selling may taste good but that's about it as far as proving it's superior.
And there's nothing wrong with maltodextrin. You know what top pro cyclists use in their drinks? Maltodextrin and sucrose! Cyclists are on the cutting edge of supplementation. Lots of money dumped into research.
Isn't Art Atwood a rat? I'm pretty sure I've seen lots of accusations of him being an informant.
Sorry but I disagree with you on that. Cyclist are now using Waxy-maize because its less bloating to the stomach than maltodextrin allowing them to perform better. I was giving clients gloucose polymers (Super Carbo Charge) for years but now I'll be distributing the Waxy_maize starch brand after seeing the results which simply doesn't lie.
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Hey "boy" you really shouldn't say shit you have no idea about. Here is the deal... I will leave here forever and tell everyone you are the best if you can show just one membership I sold. Just one. That is all. Just one membership. Honestly you pretend like you know something when you have no idea what you are talking about. And it's not like you can look any dumber than you really are it just puts solidifies everything people say about you. And you wonder why no one likes you and you have no future. I give you credit though for not killing yourself yet. I am sure it is coming but you have hung in there this long. But till then keep coming on here and making a fool out of yourself. It is the only thing you are good at.
onlyme, you have been in vegas for a while now..what did happen to the gym that were you building?
I know that you are a strong dude, has your strength returned? what are you pressing these days?
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Bitchin' thread.
Went from Wax shit to Gym Memberships.
Great lesson in English grammar and vicious vocabulary too.
Thanks!!!
well...if u noticed...they completely forgot about shawn being a bad business man. this thread is all over the place.
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So I'm suppose to have all of your files of the memberships you sold for that gym...... ::)
Come on Keith, are you trying to tell me that you didn't pre sell any gym memberships at the Olympia booth that you set up in 07 and 08 saying that if they signed up early that you would give him a huge discount???
An Olympia booth rental is about 1500-4000 dollars at best so I'd seriously doubt that you would fork over all that money no. Sorry Keith, but I already know that you're lying and eventually its going to catch up to you. You've been putting off all of these people for over 2 years with these bullshit excuses as to why this gym hasn't opened yet.
I think you did it because you lost all that money in that failed PDI venture. You can't sell T-Shirts unless you actually have people at the events.
You lose once again Keith but thanks for playing
Again you moron you are wrong. Ask ROn, Chic or any of the other 500 people who came by the booth. Face it I prove you wrong everytime. I have no idea why I mess with you cause it is like picking on a retard with no learning skills. You have NO idea one thing about what I was doing. Quit pretending like you always do. Face it you don't fit in here or any other board. I read the other boards too. You are hated on every one of them. What is it like having NO friends. You are a pathetic loser and you should feel lucky I even you 2 seconds of my time,
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Sorry but I disagree with you on that. Cyclist are now using Waxy-maize because its less bloating to the stomach than maltodextrin allowing them to perform better. I was giving clients gloucose polymers (Super Carbo Charge) for years but now I'll be distributing the Waxy_maize starch brand after seeing the results which simply doesn't lie.
Do you have clients in the Tour De France? Yeah didn't think so. ;)
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=7532
The next step was to create a specific “Pre Event” drink in order to attenuate dehydration and to provide an ergogenic buffering effect. This pre-event drink was used primarily in the time trials and contained sodium bicarbonate and sodium citrate mix in a proprietary ratio (sorry, can’t give away ALL the secrets!), and a 1.5% sucrose concentration. The team used approximately 100 Liters of this mixture during the race.
The goal of the ‘During” drink was to attenuate dehydration. Carbohydrate was generally supplied via food stuffs. The “During” drink was a proprietary ratio of sucrose:glucose, with sodium citrate, magnesium, b-vitamins, and potassium. It contained no Sodium Choloride (NaCL), instead they used Sodium Citrate due to its decreased gastrointestinal stress and higher water retention rate, and inherent buffering effect. The team used approximately 10,000 Liters during the race
The “Post” drink was intended to stop the stress response, rehydrate, promote muscle repair and glycogen regeneration. It contained, among the list, a 1.5% solution of maltodextrin, potassium, amino acids, antioxidants, calcium, magnesium, and vitamins. They mixed over 8,000 Liters during the race.
Each of these drinks was formulated to be slightly hypotonic to increase absorption rates since water goes into the higher solute compartment in simple osmosis. The drinks were <270mmol/L solution compared to the blood plasma which is ~285-290 mmol/L. The ideal composition included roughly 100 mmol/L of Sodium, 6 mmol/L of Potassium, and 1.5 – 2% CHO solution (most sports beverage drinks are in the 6-8% CHO range).
Carbohydrate was also optimized. A sucrose/glucose solution was used during the races as it provided the best balance between increased water and sodium absorption and the highest possible CHO load without negatively affecting the osmolality (an indicator of fluid balance and ease of transport across cell membranes). The recovery drink used a 1.5% solution of maltodextrins, which are absorbed almost as rapidly as glucose with less gastric distress and impact on osmolality.
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Do you have clients in the Tour De France? Yeah didn't think so. ;)
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=7532
Currently no. What's your point??
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Currently no. What's your point??
Currently, no.
In the past, no.
In the future, still no.
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Currently no. What's your point??
Which top cyclists are using Vitargo or especially waxy maize? You disagreed that they use these "old" carb sources like maltodextrin. I showed evidence that they do. Where's your evidence that cyclists have all switched to waxy maize?
Give me an example of fantastic results you've seen from waxy maize.
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Currently no. What's your point??
Here you go again. You are full of shit. You have never ever trained any real athlete. We all saw that wrestler you trained
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Viotech the company that Shawn Ray was running is now bankrupt.I guess, having him run the company, plus selling Goat Whey didnt quite cut it.Now Genr8 is using him as there front man.Will Sahwn Ray run this company into the ground aswell.Plus GGenr8 sucks, it used to be Waxey Maze from Potato Rice and Corn, now its from Barley.You might aswell drink beer.Why would you have Shawn Ray run your company? He isnt a buissness man, he is a retired bodybuilder.Why not hire Bill Philips, the marketing genius????
What also pisses me off is MD fired Dave Palumbo, and John Romano for running Species sports nutrition.Why doesnt he fire Shawn Ray, for Running Viotech, and now Genr8? Why doesnt he fire Flex Wheeler for being involved with All American EFX.Flex and Shawn are doing the same shit Dave and John are doing, and they arent getting fired.
Steve Blechman is nothing but a back stabbing twink and a closet homo.Dave and John did alot for him and he screwed them over
The reason those two got fired was that they spend more time with their "company" and less time witht he mag
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Here you go again. You are full of shit. You have never ever trained any real athlete. We all saw that wrestler you trained
http://melvingoodrum.com/
hahahaha nough said
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Amazzzing front
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Good lord...
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Which top cyclists are using Vitargo or especially waxy maize? You disagreed that they use these "old" carb sources like maltodextrin. I showed evidence that they do. Where's your evidence that cyclists have all switched to waxy maize?
Give me an example of fantastic results you've seen from waxy maize.
First off, I buy waxy maize from a manufacturer, never from a retail supplier as there is no need to spend more for a fancy label.
Second, I didn't say anything about fantastic results. Its just better for endurance athletes as it prevents bloating like over carbohydrate products and even a minute difference in speed and time can make all the difference in a contest.
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http://melvingoodrum.com/
hahahaha nough said
crazee back
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Amazzzing front
(http://www.melvingoodrum.com/picts/ScreenHunter_06%20Sep.%2025%2011.57.gif)
Good lord...
Those are my training and seminar fees, whats your point?
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Those are my training and seminar fees, whats your point?
Why don't you just put $10,000 and $100,000. It would mean the same thing. Cause you aren't getting that. Other than being the laughing stock on Getbig BB.com, gayblackdumbies.com, delusionalnitwits.com, skinnyfat.com and wheredidmymusclesgo.com what credentials would warrant you charging anything over minimum wage.
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Why don't you just put $10,000 and $100,000. It would mean the same thing. Cause you aren't getting that. Other than being the laughing stock on Getbig BB.com, gayblackdumbies.com, delusionalnitwits.com, skinnyfat.com and wheredidmymusclesgo.com what credentials would warrant you charging anything over minimum wage.
My credentials is that I don't look like this
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Those are my training and seminar fees, whats your point?
You cant possibly be for real. If I wanted to take a safari in the African jungle, I wouldnt pay some jackass that has only read about it, in the pages of national geographic.... No I would pay someone that had actully been there.
Likewise...If I were to pay someone for some physique advices, I would try and give my $$ to someone with a decent physique.....which kind of excludes you doesnt it?
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My credentials is that I don't look like this
Vince all I ask you is - can you confirm that you have acutally sold a seminar for $3000.-
Yes or No
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Vince all I ask you is - can you confirm that you have acutally sold a seminar for $3000.-
Yes or No
Nope....I make it a habit not to give out any details of my business dealings.
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Nope....I make it a habit not to give out any details of my business dealings.
Translation: I have no business dealings. People look at my photos and realize there's no reason for them to hire me. They can look like crap without my guidance.
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All this is why I stick with only using Weider Products!!!! ;) :D
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You cant possibly be for real. If I wanted to take a safari in the African jungle, I wouldnt pay some jackass that has only read about it, in the pages of national geographic.... No I would pay someone that had actully been there.
Likewise...If I were to pay someone for some physique advices, I would try and give my $$ to someone with a decent physique.....which kind of excludes you doesnt it?
Nope. I have a good physique as evident in my pictures but ultimately it comes down to the number of certified personal trainers with actual credentials in my area which is very few.
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Nope. I have a good physique as evident in my pictures but ultimately it comes down to the number of certified personal trainers with actual credentials in my area which is very few.
Um. No. You may not be fat...which places you ahead of most normal Americans, but you are a far cry from what a personal trainer should look like. You dont need to look like a top NPC/IFBB competitor...but you should at least be sporting some decent muscle size/tone, which you lack.
Hope this helps
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Um. No. You may not be fat...which places you ahead of most normal Americans, but you are a far cry from what a personal trainer should look like. You dont need to look like a top NPC/IFBB competitor...but you should at least be sporting some decent muscle size/tone, which you lack.
Hope this helps
Coming from someone that won't show his picture....please... ::)
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I'm out of the loop, what company does the thread starter own?
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Coming from someone that won't show his picture....please... ::)
I will get to work on that...in the meantime.. I can assure you that there isnt anyone on this board that would debate whos physique is better. The difference being...I dont claim to have advices worth thousands of dollars...where your delusional ass somehow is incapable of seeing how much of a joke you really are.
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Nope....I make it a habit not to give out any details of my business dealings.
Again you are full of shit. YOu have NO personal training. Why the fuck do you bullshit so much. WHo do you think you are trying to impress. And that picture is far from what I look like now and even in that condition I promise you I get more respect from people than you do.
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Again you are full of shit. YOu have NO personal training. Why the fuck do you bullshit so much. WHo do you think you are trying to impress. And that picture is far from what I look like now and even in that condition I promise you I get more respect from people than you do.
Don't you live in Hawaii? You should just do a few outrigging sessions a week that will strip everything off in no time. Does it for me :D
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Anthony Allmada owns the patent to Vitargo. This is what you see in Genr8. Genr8 = Vitargo, and is the only product on the market that can claim this. It is also the only designer carbohydrate product that actualy has studies backing its claims. Art Artwood used to be a rep for Vitargo before the patent was sold to Allmada...he no longer wished to be associated with the company as they were working out an exclusive arrangement with GNC.
Getitonny is talking out of his ass like usual. Thankfully we have installed bullshit dectors like Van-B into the Getbig system to ensure that this nonsesne does not get out of hand. :D
thank god for these bullshit detectors...
However, getitinthearseNy is so dumb anyone can see he is full of shit, and he doesn't know WTF he's talking about..
He's always pushing some bullshit supp
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Don't you live in Hawaii? You should just do a few outrigging sessions a week that will strip everything off in no time. Does it for me :D
I'm in Vegas now. he relaxed lifestyle and doing my work out in the pool while getting tan got me so out of shape. When I lived Oahu I had a nice kayak I took out all the time. It was a great workout. At least here I am training except for the past 4 days cause I hurt.
Nope. I have a good physique as evident in my pictures but ultimately it comes down to the number of certified personal trainers with actual credentials in my area which is very few.
You look like shit and everyone says the same thing. Queer Vissy should really start telling you the truth. I highly doubt you have even one client other than Vissy or one of your ex boyfriends
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Vince, I try hard never to offend anyone on this Get Big Board, but in this case I have to call you an outright liar.
You lie like a rug!
I helped run Keith's booth along with the likes of Pete Grymkowski and others and there was never was any exchange of funds for anything whatsoever.
I ask you ..... Why do you find a need to lie so much on this board?
Does it make you feel important within the bodybuilding world?
Or what?
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Vince, I try hard never to offend anyone on this Get Big Board, but in this case I have to call you an outright liar.
You lie like a rug!
I helped run Keith's booth along with the likes of Pete Grymkowski and others and there was never was any exchange of funds for anything whatsoever.
I ask you ..... Why do you find a need to lie so much on this board?
Does it make you feel important within the bodybuilding world?
Or what?
So you just spent almost 10K plus about 3k on the section display just to sit around the expo??? What a waste of money. Fact is that you, Keith, and Pete were talking trash about the IFBB and promoting the PDI one day and as soon as Demilitia pulls out and folds, 3 months later I walk around and see you Three Stooges sitting around praising the IFBB as though nothing was ever said..... ::)
Its 2 years later and there's no sign of this awesome gym that Keith has been blabbering about so WHERE IS YOUR GYM???? Everytime I ask, Keith either starts talking trash or says something about my fiance. Sounds to me like he's got something to hide
Instead of worrying about me, worry about yourself and that imaginary gym of yours.... ;D
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Again you are full of shit. YOu have NO personal training. Why the fuck do you bullshit so much. WHo do you think you are trying to impress. And that picture is far from what I look like now and even in that condition I promise you I get more respect from people than you do.
So you don't mind putting up some new pictures do you????
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So you just spent almost 10K plus about 3k on the section display just to sit around the expo??? What a waste of money. Fact is that you, Keith, and Pete were talking trash about the IFBB and promoting the PDI one day and as soon as Demilitia pulls out and folds, 3 months later I walk around and see you Three Stooges sitting around praising the IFBB as though nothing was ever said..... ::)
Its 2 years later and there's no sign of this awesome gym that Keith has been blabbering about so WHERE IS YOUR GYM???? Everytime I ask, Keith either starts talking trash or says something about my fiance. Sounds to me like he's got something to hide
Instead of worrying about me, worry about yourself and that imaginary gym of yours.... ;D
Again your ignorance shines through. When are you going to get it You are a nothing person with nothing going for him. You look like shit yet you think you look great. There has to be some medical term for this. You can tell how stupid you are with this post. We spent money and made the exact contacts we wanted. To bad the economy took a shit right then. Unlike you I have great behind me who know there shit. No one would ever back anything you do. You have zero, null, nada, none, zip credibility. Boy, you are fighting a losing battle. Like I said before you are lucky I even taked the time to respond to you. Mostly it is because you are such an easy target. You have NO ammo to fight back with. Face it the only thing you have going for you is that skinny twink Vissy.
I will put up pics when I am ready. Unlike you I don't think I look good yet. You for some reason think you look good. No matter how many people tell you otherwise. That is called stupid. God really fucked you in the genetics and brain departments. He did give you the gift of bullshitting though.
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Again your ignorance shines through. When are you going to get it You are a nothing person with nothing going for him. You look like shit yet you think you look great. There has to be some medical term for this. You can tell how stupid you are with this post. We spent money and made the exact contacts we wanted. To bad the economy took a shit right then. Unlike you I have great behind me who know there shit. No one would ever back anything you do. You have zero, null, nada, none, zip credibility. Boy, you are fighting a losing battle. Like I said before you are lucky I even taked the time to respond to you. Mostly it is because you are such an easy target. You have NO ammo to fight back with. Face it the only thing you have going for you is that skinny twink Vissy.
I will put up pics when I am ready. Unlike you I don't think I look good yet. You for some reason think you look good. No matter how many people tell you otherwise. That is called stupid. God really fucked you in the genetics and brain departments. He did give you the gift of bullshitting though.
Likely excuse. You're a two faced liar who make promises to people and never delivered. Just like your attempts to lose weight, its a big fail. Just like that spider bite...... ::)
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Does anyone know if waxy Maze will take lumps off your balls? These lumps are really starting to play with my insecurities :-\
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Vince: I've been supporting the NPC since its inception. In fact I helped set it up BEFORE it even began and still do.
And I never worry about you in the least.
You're just a total embarrassment in my humble opinion.
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Likely excuse. You're a two faced liar who make promises to people and never delivered. Just like your attempts to lose weight, its a big fail. Just like that spider bite...... ::)
You know the other thing you have going for you is that you have set the bar so low in your life that doing anything you consider an achievement. Never ever in you many years of competition and BB (so you say) have you ever beaten anyone. Do you realize you have never had anyone place under you (except that skinny twink fag Vissy) You were born a loser and your life now and forever will be a loser. There is not one person anywhere would want to have your life. It must suck to know you are a born loser. You gotta to be as delusional as you are just to getup in the morning. No matter what you say or how many lies you tell you can't change the fact you are a loser. Now that must suck (pardon the pun).