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^^^^^^^^^Can ANYONE explain this tape?
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The plane disintegrated leaving no trace, no titanium engines, no nothing.
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A reporter who WITNESSED the crash said this:
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We're beating a dead horse here. If you've looked into the events of 911, you know there are some things that are weird, some things that are just plain silly.
It was over 8 years ago. History and the rest of the world (and yes, the majority of Americans polled) feels there was some serious BS going on.
And yes, it is about to make it on the ballot. It seems a lot of NYers support an investigation, even after all this time.
I used to scream about the need for one. Now? I dunno. Anyone with a flippin brain in their head knows WTC7 falling into its footprint and the huge ass jet that 'distintegrated' into enough parts to fit in the back of a pickup truck smell like dogshite. The reporter on the scene walked up to the hole and there was no plane. he made that very clear. And yes, reporters bugged Rummy for a week about it - where is the plane, sir/
But it's history. reigniting that debate won't do anything but take our eyes of issues which affect us now.
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We're beating a dead horse here. If you've looked into the events of 911, you know there are some things that are weird, some things that are just plain silly.
It was over 8 years ago. History and the rest of the world (and yes, the majority of Americans polled) feels there was some serious BS going on.
And yes, it is about to make it on the ballot. It seems a lot of NYers support an investigation, even after all this time.
I used to scream about the need for one. Now? I dunno. Anyone with a flippin brain in their head knows WTC7 falling into its footprint and the huge ass jet that 'distintegrated' into enough parts to fit in the back of a pickup truck smell like dogshite. The reporter on the scene walked up to the hole and there was no plane. he made that very clear. And yes, reporters bugged Rummy for a week about it - where is the plane, sir/
But it's history. reigniting that debate won't do anything but take our eyes of issues which affect us now.
QFT !!!!
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That's funny - opening this thread - I thought I was going to see this video posted.
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Nice subject change.
i dont blame you.
You have a CNN reporter standing at the hole saying "there's no plane".
What possible way can you refute it, then to attack obama?
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So.... There are those who believe Bush and his administration were completely incompetent on almost everything, yet still able to pull off the "Greatest Deception of All Time".
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Nice subject change.
i dont blame you.
You have a CNN reporter standing at the hole saying "there's no plane".
What possible way can you refute it, then to attack obama?
240 - these scams have been debunked so many times.
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Now add these videos:
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240 - these scams have been debunked so many times.
youre intelligent on some things, but 911 isn't one of them.
Please link me to where this CNN reporter was debunked. Please link me to evidence he was lying about what he said there.
Look dude, this turns into both of us wasting our days arguing this shit. It's easy for you to say "its all been debunked" because you read that on FOXnews.com.
The truth is, lots of people are doing research on chemicals, materials and video from that day, doing interviews, etc, and they're finding a lot of NEW holes which FOx, in fact, did not debunk in 2005 ;)
Keep bashing 'zero' and talking about how many guns you have. let the grownups do what they're going to do, and in 10 years you can justify 911 as "bush did what he had to do to get us oil and bases".
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Now add this video:
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So.... There are those who believe Bush and his administration were completely incompetent on almost everything, yet still able to pull off the "Greatest Deception of All Time".
Who in the hell said anything about Bush or his administration you dumb ass? ???
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youre intelligent on some things, but 911 isn't one of them.
Please link me to where this CNN reporter was debunked. Please link me to evidence he was lying about what he said there.
Look dude, this turns into both of us wasting our days arguing this shit. It's easy for you to say "its all been debunked" because you read that on FOXnews.com.
The truth is, lots of people are doing research on chemicals, materials and video from that day, doing interviews, etc, and they're finding a lot of NEW holes which FOx, in fact, did not debunk in 2005 ;)
Keep bashing 'zero' and talking about how many guns you have. let the grownups do what they're going to do, and in 10 years you can justify 911 as "bush did what he had to do to get us oil and bases".
So now a rogue air force pilot is in on this?
Ted Olson is on this?
The families of all the people on the plane are in on this?
The FAA is in on this?
The air force is in on this?
The Pentagon is in on this?
Who else 240?????
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240 - these scams have been debunked so many times.
They haven't, there were a few shows about 9/11, but the theories they attempted to debunk were unrelated to the questionable events.
I think the biggest mystery of 9/11 is how the World Trade Centers fell faster then gravity would naturally pull them downward? They faced negative resistance, wtf? Why were they literally sucked downward?
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They haven't, there were a few shows about 9/11, but the theories they attempted to debunk were unrelated to the questionable events.
I think the biggest mystery of 9/11 is how the World Trade Centers fell faster then gravity would naturally pull them downward? They faced negative resistance, wtf? Why were they literally sucked downward?
To me, the amount of people who would have to involved for this to be an internal conspiracy is so large as to make it literally impossible given the time frame involved.
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To me, the amount of people who would have to involved for this to be an internal conspiracy is so large as to make it literally impossible given the time frame involved.
I don't know, that could be true.
If I remember right there were reports of power outages all over the buildings the weekend before this happened.
Also, 2.3 Trillion was announced "missing" in the days before 9/11. That's enough to keep people quiet.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/main325985.shtml
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I don't know, that could be true.
If I remember right there were reports of power outages all over the buildings the weekend before this happened.
Also, 2.3 Trillion was announced "missing" in the days before 9/11. That's enough to keep people quiet.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/main325985.shtml
Look, I try to look at reality. Most people cant keep a fart secret for more than a few seconds. I find it impossible to believe that dozens, if not hundreds or thousands of people could be silent for 8 years if there was conspiracy of this nature.
Additionally, people in the know would try to make money off this and come public if this were true for a quick buck.
Sometimes, it is what it is.
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Look, I try to look at reality. Most people cant keep a fart secret for more than a few seconds. I find it impossible to believe that dozens, if not hundreds or thousands of people could be silent for 8 years if there was conspiracy of this nature.
Additionally, people in the know would try to make money off this and come public if this were true for a quick buck.
Sometimes, it is what it is.
I understand what you're saying, and I don't have all the answers but something fishy was definitely up. Traces of termite have been detected on wreckage from the towers. (By Professor Steven Jones, BYU Physics).
I don't think it would take as many people as you think. You know how well people can be trained in covert operations. Our government and governments around the world have technology light years ahead of the stuff we know about.
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I understand what you're saying, and I don't have all the answers but something fishy was definitely up. Traces of termite have been detected on wreckage from the towers. (By Professor Steven Jones, BYU Physics).
I don't think it would take as many people as you think. You know how well people can be trained in covert operations. Our government and governments around the world have technology light years ahead of the stuff we know about.
However, remember - a polt of thisnature would require literally hundreds of people turning a blind eye. im not talking about people at the top. Im talking about security guards, janitors, maintenace people, pedestrians, workers etc.
Security camera observers, door men, etc.
When you really think about it, a task of this nature would require at least a few hundred people to pull off.
I think it is impossible to assume that all these people could all remain silent for so long. Additionally, where are all the executions of those "in the know" is this were a huge coverup?
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Who in the hell said anything about Bush or his administration you dumb ass? ???
Mons and other others on the left who spew this shit, dumb ass. It's completely inconsistent to label that administration as incompetent on everything, yet still accuse them of the greatest cover up in history.
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Mons and other others on the left who spew this shit, dumb ass. It's completely inconsistent to label that administration as incompetent on everything, yet still accuse them of the greatest cover up in history.
QFT
I understand what you're saying, and I don't have all the answers but something fishy was definitely up. Traces of termite have been detected on wreckage from the towers. (By Professor Steven Jones, BYU Physics).
I don't think it would take as many people as you think. You know how well people can be trained in covert operations. Our government and governments around the world have technology light years ahead of the stuff we know about.
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Mons and other others on the left who spew this shit, dumb ass. It's completely inconsistent to label that administration as incompetent on everything, yet still accuse them of the greatest cover up in history.
Only months into the presidency itself!
Look, I have no doubt that people might want to do this, but to assume that the NYPD can easily track and root out low grade crap like we just saw, yet, not see something as big as rigging the destruction of the WTC is just ridiculous.
Are there questions? Yes. however, Questions are not evidence and the conspiracy nuts on this have ZERO evidence of a affirmative vast conspiracy on 9/11.
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QFT
Surely you realize that the President and his administration are only a part of our government, just like the CIA, etc... You do realize that the President and his administration aren't part of everything our government does?
Because of your poor reading comprehension skills I'll make it clear. I'm not accusing anyone, I have no idea who was behind 9/11 just like you.
You waste so much space with pure bullshit...
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Surely you realize that the President and his administration are only a part of our government, just like the CIA, etc... You do realize that the President and his administration aren't part of everything our government does?
Because of your poor reading comprehension skills I'll make it clear. I'm not accusing anyone, I have no idea who was behind 9/11 just like you.
You waste so much space with pure bullshit...
Al Qeauda was behind 9/11, just like bin Laden admitted and almost all evidence points to.
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Surely you realize that the President and his administration are only a part of our government, just like the CIA, etc... You do realize that the President and his administration aren't part of everything our government does?
Because of your poor reading comprehension skills I'll make it clear. I'm not accusing anyone, I have no idea who was behind 9/11 just like you.
You waste so much space with pure bullshit...
no doubt no doubt that the pres doesnt know of everything going on in govt agencies...
like you said fact of the matter is you DO NOT know so why insinuate?
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Where's the beef plane?
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Where's the beef plane?
Where are your combat records so you can get rid of me from Getbig forever?
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Where's the beef plane?
where where the parts of the plane that crashed into the towers?
thats what happens shit break apart when it collides into structures at break neck speeds...
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this is like watching two blind handicapped people make a porno movie. jeez.
tony, large chunks of the plane were all over the ground in nyc, including a huge engine that fell 1200 feet on fire and still emerged.
33, i dont know where to begin with you. we created al-q to accomplish our goals form 84 til 98. they happened to do some shit in 01 that let us install bases when we needed them, as saudis were booting us. bin laden isn't wanted for 911, check fbi list.
you guys know a lot about why obama sucks, but we spend 4 years debting 911 and you serioulsy have no clue here.
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Whatever...Mons where's ur shit.
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I agree with 33 most of the time I think, and I know he's a sharp guy. I think if he looked into 9/11 a bit more he would come to a similar conclusion as 240 and I. :P
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this is like watching two blind handicapped people make a porno movie. jeez.
tony, large chunks of the plane were all over the ground in nyc, including a huge engine that fell 1200 feet on fire and still emerged.
33, i dont know where to begin with you. we created al-q to accomplish our goals form 84 til 98. they happened to do some shit in 01 that let us install bases when we needed them, as saudis were booting us. bin laden isn't wanted for 911, check fbi list.
you guys know a lot about why obama sucks, but we spend 4 years debting 911 and you serioulsy have no clue here.
so this guy could see from the distance he was at that no pieces were there at all?
youre right it must have been an inside job a van perhaps except for those ppl in the plane i mean wait what was i thinking they probably just created a long list of names and nobody has looked into it yet ::)
face it 240 if this was what you ppl say it was it would have come out by now and if you think otherwise you shouldnt say shit about obama and his BC
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this is like watching two blind handicapped people make a porno movie. jeez.
tony, large chunks of the plane were all over the ground in nyc, including a huge engine that fell 1200 feet on fire and still emerged.
33, i dont know where to begin with you. we created al-q to accomplish our goals form 84 til 98. they happened to do some shit in 01 that let us install bases when we needed them, as saudis were booting us. bin laden isn't wanted for 911, check fbi list.
you guys know a lot about why obama sucks, but we spend 4 years debting 911 and you serioulsy have no clue here.
What exactly do you think jets are made of? Jets are made of aluminum, which has a realtivly low melting point.
It didn't take me long to find pictures of what was left of the plane in the Pentagon
http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm (http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm)
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What exactly do you think jets are made of? Jets are made of aluminum, which has a realtivly low melting point.
It didn't take me long to find pictures of what was left of the plane in the Pentagon
http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm (http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm)
What happened to the 50000 pound, 8' tall Titanium engines? Did they also disintegrate?
Why were surveillance videos from surrounding businesses confiscated? Why only release three frames of the impact when the Pentagon is one of the most highly survailed buildings in the world?
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/911wasainsidejob/pentagon-animation.gif)
Oh, and that gigantic/soft aluminum nose punched this small hole. Right before it vaporized that is...
(http://guttertrash.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/pentagon-hole1.jpg)
Forget all the military personnel on scene who smelled explosives.
"Pentagon eyewitness Don Perkal to MSNBC: “Even before stepping outside, I could smell the cordite. I knew explosives had gone off somewhere.” Also eyewitness account of AmTrak electrical engineer Samuel Danner who was at the site and said he smelled cordite.[3]"
(http://pagesperso-orange.fr/jpdesm/pentagon/facade/facade.jpg)
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At the very least these questions should have been answered in some kind of investigation? ???
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The whole engine isn't made of titanium the turbine blades are, lets take a look at what a bird can do to titanium
(http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/090115-bird-strike-02.widec.jpg)
I bird strike can disable a jet engine, and the engine is more in the neighborhood of 10,000 lbs.
As far as the nose , you have to take into account velocity of the object. the burning temp of the jet fule.....
Do you even know what cordite is? It's smokeless powder that hasn't been used in years. I have shot guns my whole life and have no idea what cordite smells like, but now we have people from all over the place saying they could smell cordite? Did they all fight in WWII?